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posted by CoolHand on Monday August 10 2015, @04:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-funny-about-it dept.

From Yahoo News:

A man was gravely wounded in a gun battle with police in Ferguson, Missouri on Sunday night after a day of peaceful rallies to mark the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white officer one year ago. Several volleys of gunshots rang out as police in riot gear tried to disperse demonstrators blocking traffic and smashing storefront windows along a street that was a flashpoint of last year's unrest in the St. Louis suburb after Michael Brown, 18, was slain. Police later said the gunfire began with two groups of agitators apparently shooting at each other.

http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-protests-mostly-peaceful-anniversary-brown-shooting-015555407.html

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Anniversary commemorations had begun hours earlier with a peaceful march through the St. Louis suburb. The scene changed dramatically after dark. Dozens of protesters converged on West Florissant Avenue, which bore the brunt of last summer's rioting, and chanted: "Shut it down" in the midst of a severe thunderstorm.


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  • (Score: 2) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Monday August 10 2015, @05:35PM

    by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Monday August 10 2015, @05:35PM (#220773) Journal

    This isn't a riot. It's a police massacre.

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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Freeman on Monday August 10 2015, @05:51PM

    by Freeman (732) on Monday August 10 2015, @05:51PM (#220783) Journal

    "In Ferguson on Sunday night, police said the gunfire began with two groups of agitators apparently shooting at each other before one gunman darted across a parking lot and was confronted by four officers who pulled up in an unmarked vehicle.

    The suspect then opened fire on the police vehicle and was badly wounded in the ensuing foot chase and exchange of gunshots with the four detectives, police said."
    http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-protests-mostly-peaceful-anniversary-brown-shooting-015555407.html/ [yahoo.com]

    How is that a "Police Massacre"?

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Monday August 10 2015, @06:47PM

      by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Monday August 10 2015, @06:47PM (#220811) Journal

      Because Police and prosecutors in Ferguson have an extensive and documented history of lying, fabricating evidence and making false statements to the media.

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      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday August 10 2015, @07:32PM

        by Freeman (732) on Monday August 10 2015, @07:32PM (#220846) Journal

        Ahh..., so this would be the problem then:

        "The civic infrastructure of Ferguson has not kept pace with its shifting demographics. In 1990, the town was three-quarters white. Twenty years later, white people made up only 30 percent of the population.

        Now, Ferguson’s population is two-thirds black. Its more-than-50-person police force includes just three black officers. In 2013, black people accounted for 86 percent of all traffic stops and 92 percent of searches and arrests."
        http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/08/racial-tension-in-ferguson-isnt-over/378625/ [theatlantic.com]

        What really gets me though, is their next section:
        "Ferguson’s figures are not much different than many municipalities in the St. Louis area—and they’re actually better than the statewide average. But residents say profiling in the city is severe."

        At least, I am assuming they mean that the discrimination is systemic throughout the state. I also don't have a reason to believe that what they stated isn't true.

        It would be a lot more helpful, if the media focused on things that matter, like the facts. The media seems to just get more and more sensationalized. That's partly why I stopped watching the news. At least with getting my sources online, I can skip through the sensationalist junk, and actually learn something useful.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 10 2015, @06:27PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 10 2015, @06:27PM (#220801) Journal

    Wounded Knee was a massacre. Ferguson? Did the women and children go home, as well as most of the males between the ages of 12 and 42?

    It is one of my pet peeves, when simple minded civilians start throwing around military terms. Ferguson wasn't even decimated, let alone massacred. Note that a massacre is a much more serious punitive action than a mere decimation.

    • (Score: 2) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Monday August 10 2015, @06:52PM

      by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Monday August 10 2015, @06:52PM (#220815) Journal

      You're so helpful.

      "He was massacred" Not incorrect.

      You ignore the shooting of an unarmed child, and try though "specialist" jargon horrible, bloody injustice.

      If this were a little blue-eyed girl, how would you have responded?

      Not that I have any hope for integrity or honesty in your response.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 10 2015, @07:45PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 10 2015, @07:45PM (#220859) Journal

        Maybe if you weren't so militant and hateful - you would know that I have posted many times, in many places, that Tamir Rice was unjustifiably murdered. Crawford was also unjustifiably murdered. That most recent guy in the news - shot in the head because he resisted a cop who unlawfully tried to drag him out of his car - what was his name? Samuel DuBose.

        There are a MINIMUM of TWO SIDES to every story. Michael Brown? I find no sympathy for that guy - he was an out of control punk, searching for trouble. Why is it that I don't read about demonstrations in Tamir Rice's behalf?

        But, "Black Lives Matter".

        That attitude is just as racist as the shit the cops are doing. You bitched in another post that "all lives matter" somehow dilutes your message. Well - if your message is racist, it needs diluting.

        You're outraged that black people are randomly killed by racist bastards in uniform? I can empathize. I am also outraged. But, don't lecture me on "Black Lives Matter", don't even TRY to make me feel guilty for my opinions. No one in my ancestry has ever owned a black slave.

        Honesty and integrity? You'll need to run down to Walmart and buy some for yourself, before you can hope to judge mine.

        ALL LIVES MATTER. That goes for the little Apache children I've met in New Mexico and Arizona, the Aleuts I met in Alaska - fuck, man, EVERYONE I've ever met. Black is no more, and no less, than any other label that can be attached to any group of people.

        And, "massacre" remains a term reserved for a mass murder, not the murder of one individual.

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday August 10 2015, @09:53PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Monday August 10 2015, @09:53PM (#220930)

        You can't "massacre" a single person. You just call it killing them.

        noun
        noun: massacre; plural noun: massacres

                1.
                an indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people.

        verb
        verb: massacre; 3rd person present: massacres; past tense: massacred; past participle: massacred; gerund or present participle: massacring

                1.
                deliberately and violently kill (a large number of people).

        Kind of in a similar way to how saying a soldier in a war is murdering the enemy isn't accurate.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @12:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @12:11AM (#220992)

      It is one of my pet peeves, when simple minded civilians start throwing around military terms. Ferguson wasn't even decimated, let alone massacred. Note that a massacre is a much more serious punitive action than a mere decimation.

      And one of my pet peeves is when simple minded civilians like yourself try to go dictionary pedant and fail, like alldictionary pedants do.

      massacre: [oxforddictionaries.com] An indiscriminate and brutal slaughter of people

    • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Tuesday August 11 2015, @01:13AM

      by hemocyanin (186) on Tuesday August 11 2015, @01:13AM (#221022) Journal

      I think this is one of the best comments I've ever read on pedantry: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=8584&cid=213287#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] (by ikanreed)

      Two pedants walk into a bar.

      Okay fine. To be more precise: two pedants get beaten to death with a bar.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 11 2015, @02:06AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 11 2015, @02:06AM (#221053) Journal

        LOL @ myself. I reacted rather strongly to YOUR post, because, somehow, I thought that Cornelius had made that post. Sorry, man - you aren't as militant as he is. Take my above response with a couple grains of salt, alright?

        All the same, massecres and mass graves go hand in hand. A single, individual funeral does not a massacre make. To help put things in perspective, you might look at the mideast, or Mexico. Yes, Mexico enjoys the odd massacre rather frequently - http://www.borderlandbeat.com/ [borderlandbeat.com]

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 11 2015, @12:33PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday August 11 2015, @12:33PM (#221231) Journal

      Boston Massacre [wikipedia.org]. 5 civilians killed.

      One man's massacre is another man's minor civil disturbance. Depends on who's writing the headlines.

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