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posted by CoolHand on Monday August 10 2015, @04:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the nothing-funny-about-it dept.

From Yahoo News:

A man was gravely wounded in a gun battle with police in Ferguson, Missouri on Sunday night after a day of peaceful rallies to mark the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager by a white officer one year ago. Several volleys of gunshots rang out as police in riot gear tried to disperse demonstrators blocking traffic and smashing storefront windows along a street that was a flashpoint of last year's unrest in the St. Louis suburb after Michael Brown, 18, was slain. Police later said the gunfire began with two groups of agitators apparently shooting at each other.

http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-protests-mostly-peaceful-anniversary-brown-shooting-015555407.html

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Anniversary commemorations had begun hours earlier with a peaceful march through the St. Louis suburb. The scene changed dramatically after dark. Dozens of protesters converged on West Florissant Avenue, which bore the brunt of last summer's rioting, and chanted: "Shut it down" in the midst of a severe thunderstorm.


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  • (Score: 2) by penguinoid on Monday August 10 2015, @06:59PM

    by penguinoid (5331) on Monday August 10 2015, @06:59PM (#220826)

    Imagine if at some point, people decided to show up for a peaceful protest with everyone armed with rifles and armor piercing rounds. Would the protest be more likely to be thoroughly peaceful, or less?

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  • (Score: 2) by LaminatorX on Monday August 10 2015, @08:08PM

    by LaminatorX (14) <reversethis-{moc ... ta} {xrotanimal}> on Monday August 10 2015, @08:08PM (#220872)

    We already know the answer to this. If they were white, it would go down like the Bundy Ranch. If they were black, it would be a bloodbath like the MOVE house in Philly.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @08:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @08:26PM (#220881)

      There have already been open carry demonstrations in many state capitols. Usually entirely white. Nothing happens. That is why no one ever hears about them on the news. They only show the violent protests, not the ones that are little more than politically-aimed cookouts on capitol lawns.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @12:17AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @12:17AM (#220995)

        Usually entirely white. Nothing happens

        Ah, Grasshopper, you have forgotten (or never knew about) the great granddaddy of these.
        In 1967, members of the Black Panther Party entered the California state house carrying loaded firearms [google.com] (perfectly legal).

        Guess what happened next.
        California changed the laws very quickly to restrict open carry (reducing the number of instances of whites threatening blacks with guns).

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @01:14AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @01:14AM (#221023)

          Was there a shooting? A riot? No. Nothing happened.

          And that certainly was not the first demonstration of open carry rights. That went right back to the days of the revolutionary war.

          I do not know what your game or agenda is, but the black panthers were not the first and I wonder if you get the irony of a black terrorist organization threatening white legislators in order to prevent white Californians from threatening open-carry behavior.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 11 2015, @01:01PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday August 11 2015, @01:01PM (#221240) Journal

      I was about to ditto that remark, but then I remembered Ruby Ridge [wikipedia.org] and Waco [wikipedia.org], in which white people were slaughtered by government thugs. The difference with the Bundy Ranch incident was the protestors outgunned, or at least closely matched, the available firepower of the Feds. The Feds decided they preferred to not die that day to collect back taxes. Of course, the MOVE incident was egregious because it was the mayor dropping bombs on a housing block in his city.

      If there's any lesson to draw from all of it, it's that citizens should position themselves to inflict more damage than a civil servant is willing to endure if they want to prevail in a stand-off with the government. But it's a very dubious lesson undermined by a small sample set and prone to too much interpretation to have any explanatory power. Perhaps a more robust conclusion is that there is plenty [wikipedia.org] of precedent [wikipedia.org] in the Land of the Free [illinoislaborhistory.org] and the Home of the Brave for the government slaughtering citizens, and we're probably going to see [worldcantwait.net] a lot more as the economic paradigm shift we're in the middle of progresses.

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