SoylentNews is people
SoylentNews
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/08/obama-to-putin-stop-hacking-me.html
The U.S. is calling out Russia for a "dramatic rise" in cyber espionage against America. It's part of a veiled threat to the Kremlin: We know what you're doing online. Ever since the U.S. government hit Russia with economic sanctions last year, Russian hackers have started new cyberspying campaigns to steal information from U.S. government agencies and corporations, according to current and former American intelligence officials and cybersecurity experts. Now, American officials are fighting backâby outing the hackers and issuing what some see as veiled threats to Moscow.
-- submitted from IRC
This discussion has been archived.
No new comments can be posted.
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
Remember Darwin; building a better mousetrap merely results in smarter mice.
(Score: 3, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday August 11 2015, @07:58PM
The problem here is Ronald Reagan.
While bankrupting the Soviet Union did indeed end the Cold War, it had the unintended effect that the Soviets did not have the wherewithal to provide pensions to its KGB agents.
Vladimir Putin was a KGB agent in East Germany when the Wall came down. He did not fear reprisal, he and his wife feared starvation. Before he staged his own little Reichstag his plan for his own Golden Years was to drive a Moscow taxicab.
The Russians know what's going on; that's why Sochi cost fifty billion dollars to hold the Winter Olympics in a summer resort town. The Russian word for "Civil Disobedience" is "upside-down toilet seat installation".
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 5, Informative) by frojack on Tuesday August 11 2015, @08:05PM
Vlad may or may not be insane, but Obama is clearly delusional if he thinks he can have his spooks peeking into Russian servers, (as will as British, German, French, and everybody else) without expecting the same in return.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @10:30PM
If you think Obama was the first, or even tenth president to do that, I have news for you. [nsa.gov]
Should you not like the source you can always check out the critical book The Puzzle Palace. Just that organization started in 1952 and it was not the first.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 12 2015, @01:15AM
Obama is clearly delusional if he thinks he can have his spooks peeking into Russian servers, (as will as British, German, French, and everybody else) without expecting the same in return.
It seems likely if Obama's spooks weren't doing that, everybody else would still be doing it to him.
(Score: 1) by Murdoc on Thursday August 13 2015, @01:17AM
Oh come now. That's not how the "spy game" is played, that's how perfectly reasonable people behave. In the spy game, everyone knows that everyone else is doing it. The game is not in the intelligence you gather, but in who gets caught. You make sure that your guys don't get caught, and when you catch one of theirs, you get to call them out on it. That's like winning points. The one with the most points wins. That's the political end of it anyway.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 11 2015, @08:27PM
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Tuesday August 11 2015, @08:32PM
Or perhaps you didn't study United States or World History. Are you British?
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 11 2015, @08:49PM
Even if Reagan did cover Putin's pension, I don't see how things would be different. Just getting into a leadership position in the KGB passes a filter for sociopathy.
As to Putin allegedly being insane, I've heard that he might be worth up to 200 billion dollars. Doesn't sound like insanity any more.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Freeman on Tuesday August 11 2015, @08:58PM
Wealth does not imply sanity.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday August 11 2015, @09:13PM
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday August 12 2015, @12:43AM
Take it from a Certified Lunatic.
Im on my ipad so cant explain in detail but there are significant difference between truly irrational behaviors and behaviors that only seem irrational.
I will post at more length tomorrow.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday August 12 2015, @12:39AM
You know Damn well that I can trace many current events all the way back to Masada in 70 AD.
Or Davis?
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
http://www.warplife.com/jonathan-swift/books/software-problem/social/lets-eat-something-good-for-our-heads.html [warplife.com]
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Wednesday August 12 2015, @05:53AM
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @09:53PM
Not bad MDC, very on topic with only mild ramblings... not bad at all. The anecdote about him driving the taxi is rather amusing.
Still I think it is premature to pawn it all off on his financial situation. Rather that I think it did contribute, but in sense it hurt his pride. So while some megalomaniacs are born, others are raised.
But regardless of origin, neither can be cured, well other than by lead I assume.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by takyon on Tuesday August 11 2015, @11:47PM
Bush and Clinton are to be blamed rather than Reagan. Something happened between the fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of Putin. That something was called "shock therapy":
https://paullikoudis.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/the-plunder-of-russia-in-the-1990s/ [wordpress.com]
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitext/ufd_shocktherapy.html [pbs.org]
http://www.4thmedia.org/2012/06/neoliberalism-failures-and-limits-of-shock-therapy-in-russia/ [4thmedia.org]
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1998/eirv25n32-19980814/eirv25n32-19980814_056-how_imf_shock_therapy_was_impose.pdf [larouchepub.com]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday August 12 2015, @12:45AM
And its not just that they didnt know where their next meal was coming from but that they were all James Bond and Peter Gunn fans.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 11 2015, @11:29PM
Tell us the story about the time you met Reagan.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday August 11 2015, @11:47PM
Bush and Clinton are to be blamed rather than Reagan. Something happened between the fall of the Soviet Union and the rise of Putin... That something was called "shock therapy":
https://paullikoudis.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/the-plunder-of-russia-in-the-1990s/ [wordpress.com]
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitext/ufd_shocktherapy.html [pbs.org]
http://www.4thmedia.org/2012/06/neoliberalism-failures-and-limits-of-shock-therapy-in-russia/ [4thmedia.org]
http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1998/eirv25n32-19980814/eirv25n32-19980814_056-how_imf_shock_therapy_was_impose.pdf [larouchepub.com]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday August 12 2015, @12:48AM
I dont know how significant Midwestern Evangelism was but for the most part the former Soviets wanted to practice Russian Orthodoxy, Judiasm and Islam.
Imagine you were just released from prison when a bunch of Brazilian Rainforest Shamans turned up.
Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]