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El Reg reports Brassiere belays boob-bound bullet, begetting bruised breastbone
[A] woman, who was cycling through Germany's least densely populated state of Mecklenberg-Western Pomerania, was saved by the wire lining of her bra, reported Germany's Gadebusch-Rehnaer Zeitung.
[A] couple had chosen to cycle across a field between the towns of Gadebusch and Kochelstor in Germany, when they unwittingly entered a conflict between man and beast.
Feeling a sudden pain in her chest, and glancing thither, she noted that she'd been struck by a rebounded shot and was saved only by the underwire of her brassiere, leaving her with but a bruise.
The minimalist technology involved surprised me. I expected something much more exotic.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 12 2015, @05:43PM
There couldn't have been much energy left in that bullet. Cops wearing full body armer are knocked breathless when they are hit by medium and large caliber rounds. The energy is simply spread out over a wider area, but it's still like being hit by a sledgehammer weilded by the Jolly Green Giant.
(Score: 2) by morgauxo on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:14PM
I was going to say that too. I'm sure the bra is far from bulletproof if hit directly. I've been hit with shot from a 12 guage myself, It had skidded across the ground losing momentum along the way. It just bounced harmlessly off of my jeans. That doesn't mean those pants would save me if I was actually being shot at!
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:14PM
It may have been a ricochet rather than a direct hit. Here's a google-translated quote from the original german article:
"Was found in the alleged shooting direction, among other things, a hunted boar from which the bullet could have bounced," said [André Falke from the police station Wismar on SVZ inquiry].
(Score: 2) by Username on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:42PM
Didn’t know Germany had boar. It has to be the biggest game they have considering their deer are only two feet tall. Seems like he was out of range or a poor shot, a rifle would have solved both problems.
(Score: 1) by VanderDecken on Wednesday August 12 2015, @09:52PM
I concur. I've been hit by a ricochet of a large bore (7.62mm) round. If most of the energy had not already been expended, I wouldn't be here, now.
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(Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:18PM
From what sense I can make of the German (which isn't so good), they have some kind of special fall hunting season (this is fall? maybe its some kind of holiday name?) and the cops in Germany, not being as incompetent as American cops, have already tracked down the hunter and the wild boar the bullet glanced off the boar and gave her a nasty bruise about an inch around. Its uh, probably a little click bait to claim a little bruise would have killed her without a piece of wire about as strong as a cell phone charging cable (although who knows maybe she has a lot to hold up so her wire is like 0000 gauge copper)
Then there's something about the minimum caliber which sounds ridiculous only a little bigger than a .22, either thats a mistake of mine, or no wonder it bounced off, and commentary about this happens every couple years or so and the last time in 2008 the guy who got hit died and something about 2.5 meters (2.5 kilometers?).
There's an unfortunate "maximum dangerous" caliber around .30 or so where anything smaller like shotgun pellets decelerates eventually to something like thrown pebbles and can't hurt you unless you get hit in the eye, and crazy high speed high caliber stuff where if it hits a blade of grass or a leaf it explodes so there are no dangerous ricochet issues, but right in between the dang bullets are dangerous to kilometers away and ricochets are very dangerous. No idea why the Germans have some weird .22 boar hunting season because that sounds ridiculous, locally its considered very bad form to go out with less than a 30 cal so 30-06 or something like that. Technically you can kill a deer with a .22 with excellent shot placement but... even .223 like from a M16 will not necessarily kill a deer and its considered inhumane to just wound it so it suffers for hours, thus the more or less 30 cal minimum.
That aspect of the story is so weird I'm assuming my translation is faulty... seriously, boar hunting with a .22 ? Thats not gonna end well.
Reading between the lines of my pitiful translation, and the Germans not being total idiots, and boars being kind of dangerous, I "think" the hunter was using a .22 to hunt small game (like squirrels) then the boar attacked, as they do if its a momma with baby boars around or whatever, so he shot at it but the ricochet hit some woman 2.5 km away. Or he shot a charging boar from 2.5 meters away.
But I clearly don't understand German very well.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:50PM
So sollen Schützen nur noch von einem etwa 2,50 Meter hohen Ansitz ihre Geschosse abfeuern.
"Shooters should protect only still from a 2.5 meter high Ansitz their projectiles fire."?
It would help if either online translator I tried registered "Ansitz." Maybe it's a modified form of "setzen", "to sit"? Perhaps something you sit on. So my stab at it would be "To protect people, hunters should only fire from a sitting position 2.5 meters high."
Still not sure what the heck that has to do with the issue :P
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(Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Wednesday August 12 2015, @08:46PM
(My german is bad, but here's my guess)
"A shooter may not shoot from a platform/cover more than 2.5m above ground"
"Hochsitz" is the german for "tree stand"/"deer stand" (and hunting from such is called "Ansitzjagd"
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday August 12 2015, @09:05PM
So translating it to German still preserves the inherent joke where you don't actually stand, but sit, in a stand? Ha ha, nice.
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(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday August 12 2015, @11:49PM
They mean that your blind/tree stand should be at that height so that your shot is angled down and won't travel further than you mean it to, as it did in this case. The ground effectively becomes your backstop.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Username on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:58PM
Even in Wisconsin, which has the most liberal gun laws in the union, it’s illegal to shoot any large game with anything below .223. Unlike other states, WI does allow .223 FMJs because they’re mostly semi automatics, and people aren’t going to shoot just one round.
It wouldn’t surprise me considering the EUs attitude towards gun ownership that they would limit hunters to just .22 LRs. I would think a sharpened stick would be easier to kill a boar with than a .22
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Wednesday August 12 2015, @07:36PM
Then there's something about the minimum caliber which sounds ridiculous only a little bigger than a .22, either thats a mistake of mine, or no wonder it bounced off,
Technically you can kill a deer with a .22 with excellent shot placement but... even .223 like from a M16 will not necessarily kill a deer and its considered inhumane to just wound it so it suffers for hours, thus the more or less 30 cal minimum.
I could be wrong (I can't even read German, I'm using google's translator) but I think the minimum diameter given in the article is the diameter of the bullet itself, not the jacket. Remember that a .22 and a .223 have ridiculously similar bullet diameters, but major differences in powder. Here's a piece of the German article ran through the translator:
In so-called harvest hunts using Weidmänner inter alia bullets with a minimum diameter of 6.5 millimeters.
If the 6.5 millimeter translation is correct, that's about 17% larger than a .22 or a .223. But I don't think it says anything about case length/diameter, or type of powder, so I have no idea if the force of these rounds is more comparable to a .22 or a .223. Given that it may have been a ricochet, either possibility seems reasonable.
(Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Wednesday August 12 2015, @09:21PM
Yeah I call bullshit too.
A bullet moving with any appreciable velocity would get deflected only slightly or break in two around the wire and still penetrate skin. It may get a little slower but if it was going to be lethal would still be lethal.