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posted by LaminatorX on Friday August 14 2015, @07:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the Ministry-of-Love dept.

As reported here

Chelsea Manning, the transgender Army private convicted of leaking national security secrets, faces a hearing Tuesday for prison infractions that could result in solitary confinement.

Manning, who was intelligence analyst Bradley Manning when arrested in 2010, is charged with disrespect of a prison officer and is accused having books and magazines including Vanity Fair and Cosmopolitan, among other offenses.

Noteable from the article, it is apparently "disrespect of an officer" to request a lawyer.


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  • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 14 2015, @04:54PM

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday August 14 2015, @04:54PM (#222900) Journal

    Thank you for the explanation. This is much more informative.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 14 2015, @05:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 14 2015, @05:48PM (#222920)

    All he's done is regurgitate the Army's own self-exoneration of those events. [turner.com] Don't be so quick to accept it as it were an impartial evaluation or even runaway's own analysis, its the same organization with a history of white-washing cases like abu graib.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 14 2015, @06:05PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 14 2015, @06:05PM (#222933) Journal

      Listen to the radio chatter in the video. I've "regurgitated" nothing. Pretty much everything I've stated here is stated in the video. The only thing NOT addressed in the video, is the embedded status of the reporter on the ground.

      What's more - you can view the video yourself. Count the men on the ground. Count the weapons. Some have claimed that they see more than the five weapons I count. I'm not real sure - I've counted up to eight, but then, reconsidered that maybe I had already counted some from a different angle. I'm not real sure how many weapons, but there are NO LESS than five. Count the men again. One camera man, with no weapon. One reporter, with no weapon. How many more men? Each man seems to have a weapon. Kinda what you might expect from a combatant unit looking for action, right?

      I think you're the one regurgitating nonsense.

      • (Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday August 15 2015, @01:39AM

        by Pav (114) on Saturday August 15 2015, @01:39AM (#223099)

        Are you purposely misunderstanding the issue? Shooting the wrong armed men is what lost the USA any moral standing in Somalia, though most of the men were unarmed in any case and making no obvious hostile action. The official excuse made at the time was that the cameras were misidentified as RPGs, so obviously the AK's weren't seen as a legitimate explanation although maybe later it worked for Fox when talking to people clueless about the context.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 15 2015, @02:18AM

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 15 2015, @02:18AM (#223117) Journal

          "clueless about the context"

          May I ask how many battlefields you have seen, up close and personal? Context. I have serious issues with the government that decided to invade Iraq in the first place - but the grunts who went over there and fought the war? I have few issues with the grunts. I have zero issues with the deaths of the reporters in this video. (For the record, I have issues with the CIA and intel, and the way a certain POW prison was run.) Wrong place, at the wrong time. Embedded in an enemy unit, so when that enemy unit is destroyed, oh well - sucks to be embedded, doesn't it?

          Context. You should find some clues yourself.

          • (Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday August 15 2015, @05:39AM

            by Pav (114) on Saturday August 15 2015, @05:39AM (#223157)

            I live in an Australian army town with friends who've done their time. One guy (a veteran of Somalia) told me how some US soldiers put a heavy machinegun in the middle of an intersection so they could get around the rules of engagement. They shot the guys moving it out of the way because they were "in control of a heavy weapon". I also somehow ended up playing music with a Somali guy (an ex translator for the US forces) - he had to leave Somalia after the US lost the moral high ground as he was associated with them. Another veteran friend (this time from Afghanistan) said with pride that when a truckload of armed guys drove out to attack his convoy (stationary due to a breakdown) he stepped out, let them see him aim, and saw them off without a shot being fired. The Americans in the convoy yelled at him for not firing, and he simply couldn't believe they were so shortsighted.

            There's something seriously wrong with the US armed forces culture - these wars keep being lost because populations turn against them. “Moral courage deserts a man the moment he puts on a uniform"... wrong WAS done here. Maybe the military is just sore they were shown up as such moral cowards by a transvestite.

            • (Score: 1) by kryptonianjorel on Saturday August 15 2015, @07:39AM

              by kryptonianjorel (4640) on Saturday August 15 2015, @07:39AM (#223182)

              Chelsea Manning is Transgendered, not a transvestite

              • (Score: 2) by Pav on Saturday August 15 2015, @01:11PM

                by Pav (114) on Saturday August 15 2015, @01:11PM (#223251)

                Thanks for pointing that out... I have more soldier friends than transgendered friends, or so it seems.

            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 15 2015, @01:20PM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 15 2015, @01:20PM (#223252) Journal

              "in control of a heavy weapon"

              Was this incident ever reported any higher up the chain of command than a squad sergeant? You know, and I know, that no military is ever going to approve of such an action. The risk would be, that a stronger force than expected shows up to take the weapon. In such a case, the officer or NCO who approved the plan would be guilty of aiding and abbetting the enemy by supplying them with heavy weapons. That doesn't even begin to address the moral issues of the situation.

              Something tells me this is one of those stories some guy made up, and it got passed around and around and around.

              On the other hand, it COULD just be true, if there was a CIA agent in charge . . .