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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday August 25 2015, @02:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the gotta-love-MS dept.

Microsoft has now released three cumulative updates for Windows 10. These updates combine security fixes with non-security bug fixes, and so far, Microsoft hasn't done a very good job of describing the contents of these cumulative updates. While the security content is quite fully described, explanations of the non-security fixes have been lacking.

Many, including your author, feel that this is undesirable and that a key part of the Windows-as-a-Service concept, in which Microsoft releases a steady stream of fixes and functional improvements, is a clear explanation of what those updates are. This is a new approach for Microsoft, and it seems like reassuring users and administrators that issues are getting fixed—and that functional changes are clearly described—should be important.
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Unfortunately, it does not seem that the company intends to change this approach. Company representatives told The Register that while the company "may choose" to perform "additional promotion" of new features depending on their "significance," there's no intention of providing full release notes. This means that future patches are going to continue to say nothing more than "This update includes improvements to enhance the functionality of Windows 10."

Anybody want off the Microsoft train yet?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by zocalo on Tuesday August 25 2015, @09:14AM

    by zocalo (302) on Tuesday August 25 2015, @09:14AM (#227495)
    That spyware and the opacity over what patches do is proving to be a huge stumbling block in people's willingness to move to Windows 10. Worse yet, it appears that MS is doing all it can to retroactively bolt some of that functionality on to Windows 7 and 8.x as well, so not only are they risking burning their bridges with Windows 10, but are salting the ground [hakspek.com] they left behind with earlier versions too.

    I can't believe that Microsoft can possibly think that having an OS where no one trusts their patches, and taken to the logical conclusion do not install them either, is a good idea - which seems very much like the direction thinks are rapidly headed in - so what on earth is their thinking here?
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  • (Score: 2) by Kell on Tuesday August 25 2015, @09:32AM

    by Kell (292) on Tuesday August 25 2015, @09:32AM (#227503)

    Perhaps it is some sort of desperation? It seems like someone in the tech pit had a good idea: "Our software suffers from bugs. If we switch to software as a service, we can patch continuously so everyone stays up to date!". When someone in the business office heard it up the chain, the immediate reaction was how to make money out of it: "Hmmm, how can we use this to wring every last penny out of our customers?" And from there, a reasonable idea ended up on the express train to hell.

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    • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Tuesday August 25 2015, @09:53AM

      by zocalo (302) on Tuesday August 25 2015, @09:53AM (#227508)
      Express train is right. The sad thing is that they could probably have gotten there if they'd just taken a little more time over it rather than trying to ram it down users throats all at once and pushed all the "telemetry" out and stepped up the opacity over a series of feature updates once users got used to the previous level. Google's current levels of data collection are extremely invasive when you get down to it, but it's been built up over time and a number of products that genuinely offer some benefit to the users of their services in return for being Google's product to their real customers by using a softly, softly, take it or leave it approach. By comparison, MS approach to SaaS has taken a tack that's not so much like offering free baggies of soft drugs at the school gate and building up to the hard stuff from there as trying to strap people down and forceably inject them with heroin, French Connection 2 [wikipedia.org] style. Hardly surprising if their potential users are a little wary, is it?
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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday August 25 2015, @01:41PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday August 25 2015, @01:41PM (#227578) Journal

    Holy crap. Each one of these stories about Win10 that comes out leaves me astonished at MS's gall. And you've done it interstitially. If you have a link to a story on what you're saying, you should submit it to the story queue. More people need to know, if that's the case.

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    • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Tuesday August 25 2015, @04:03PM

      by zocalo (302) on Tuesday August 25 2015, @04:03PM (#227648)
      tbh, I'm kind of the same way - it's more WTF? bemusement at the moment, although the chances of my upgrading my own systems or advising any of our clients to do so until this is settled one way or the other are precisely zero.

      As for posting the story, I agree that this needs to get out there. The concern I have at the moment is that while there's a lot of smoke, like the site I linked above and others, we don't really have the fire in the form of more than one of the more credible sites/journalists covering the story with the kind of supporting evidence necessary to back it up beyond any question yet. There are some pretty damning packet captures knocking around and the story is starting to get move traction though, so it's just a matter of time, I'm sure.
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  • (Score: 2) by darnkitten on Tuesday August 25 2015, @07:43PM

    by darnkitten (1912) on Tuesday August 25 2015, @07:43PM (#227757)

    I can't believe that Microsoft can possibly think that having an OS where no one trusts their patches, and taken to the logical conclusion do not install them either, is a good idea

    I don't think they care if we don't trust their updates. The average user has been trained to unquestioningly accept unexplained ("This update fixes issues in Windows...") patches over the last several versions of Windows. This will just be more of the same, as far as they are concerned, only they will have to restart every few days instead of once a month.