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Mozilla CEO Chris Beard has threatened to fire an anonymous person complaining about "social justice bullies" at Mozilla on Reddit, should the person be discovered to be an employee.
Chris Beard stated that the Reddit user aoiyama's complaints "crossed the line" in a series of posts about the women in the company, including recently departed community organizer Christie Koehler. In a series of tweets earlier this month, Koehler complained about Mozilla's lack of diversity in the workplace and its failure to address accessibility issues.
The Reddit user's comments:
"Frankly everyone was glad to see the back of Christie Koehler. She was batshit insane and permanently offended at everything," the user wrote. "When she and the rest of her blue-haired nose-pierced asshole feminists are gone, the tech industry will breathe a sigh of relief." It was that remark that appeared to trigger Beard's warning today. "When I talk about crossing the line from criticism to hate speech, I'm talking about when you start saying 'someone's kind doesn't belong here, and we'll all be happy when they're gone.'"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Francis on Tuesday August 25 2015, @07:54AM
OK, so this is bad PR, but is it true? I don't see anything in there that disputes the idea or sheds any other light on the subject. Of course it's also likely that it is some sort of prejudiced asshole, but knowing how SJW operate, she would hardly be the first person to behave like that.
It's all too common for people to use a lack of diversity as an excuse to treat white men as scum. And in most cases the people doing it lack the self-awareness to realize just how counterproductive it is.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 25 2015, @08:12AM
We all know that aoiyama is actually Koehler herself. Its just like an SJW to make a false-flag attack on themselves to generate public sympathy!!!
The proof is right there in the name - Aoiyama Kosuke is a bulgarian sumo wrestler, he's the ultimate SJW breaking into the officially racist [japantimes.co.jp] sport of Sumo. For a crusading, patriarchy-hating lesbian, picking the name of a sumo outsider is the only explanation that makes sense. She couldn't help herself. Watch for Konishiki [japantimes.co.jp] to show up on reddit and support aoiyama's sympathy pandering self-hate!
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 25 2015, @12:53PM
Koehler already left the company and you have no proof that the complaint has any merit.
Why would a company try to shed light on a subject brought up by an anonymous comment somewhere on the internet?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Francis on Tuesday August 25 2015, @03:36PM
If you read the tweets, it looks like there probably is some merit to the complaints. It looks like she was rather tone deaf and didn't understand what her job was. By her own admission her manager even explained to her what her job was. Agitating for social justice in the work place isn't something she was hired to do and it appears from her tweets that she was causing problems.
And besides, she's already left the company, there's no reason to fire somebody for commenting on how happy they are to be free of somebody they clearly didn't like. Now, had this been going on while she was still there, that would be something worth firing over. But, this is clearly more about PR than about anything practical.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 25 2015, @06:58PM
"the rest of her blue-haired nose-pierced asshole feminists"
Of course it isn't about anything practical. It is just about PR but the comment wasn't restricted to just one person. I still fail to see the responsibility of Mozilla to shed light on the anonymous internet complaint about Koehler.
(Score: 1) by Francis on Friday August 28 2015, @02:57AM
If they're going to go public with a threat to fire the person if the person is an employee, then they do need to shed some light on it. Otherwise people are going to talk and it looks like more of the usual SJW bullying of people that don't agree.
And what makes you think that the people the person is referring to don't fit that description? Or at least resemble it?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 25 2015, @05:51PM
It is totally fine to have an issue with someone you think is treating people unfairly. If she is mistreating coworkers, or pushing an agenda innapropriately, that is cause for report/discussion. That does not warrant lumping a group of people together and saying they don't belong, that is the cultural version of racism (aka prejudice).
What I observe happening is reverse prejudice. Minorities and women have, and still do, have valid complaints about the white male domination of business. Some take their hurts and became prejudiced, which is always sad. They become what they don't like, in another form.
To see the reverse prejudice hate on the "sjw" movement is hilariously tragic, especially since I'm sure many of the complainers about sjws have ALSO complained about reverse racism in the US. Equal opportunity comes to mind, accompanied sometimes by "dey tuk R jerbs!"
See the whole picture, realize both sides have valid points, and call out the individuals when the line is crossed. Start lumping people into groups too much and you're on the fast track to a cynical and hate filled life.
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Tuesday August 25 2015, @05:54PM
Gotta love messing up the password when submitting a comment before logging in...
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday August 25 2015, @06:01PM
Of course it should change, but it doesn't appear to me like she was engaging with her coworkers in a sensitive way. The only way these things change are if management realizes how foolish they are or you can get enough coworkers on board that the management doesn't have any option other than to realize that this isn't just a couple of cranks.
That tone of her tweets suggest that she was spending too much time and energy on social justice and not enough on her work. Which is a completely legitimate reason for people to dislike her.
Obviously, we don't have anything to go on here, but writing it off is rather ridiculous. Why should any white man support these sorts of changes when we're not really included?