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on Wednesday August 26 2015, @09:48PM
from the mental-image-from-headline-far-more-salacious-than-actual-situation dept.
from the mental-image-from-headline-far-more-salacious-than-actual-situation dept.
He's a bloodhound for the digital age. Much the way other dogs can pick up the scent of a fugitive or a cache of cocaine, Bear the labrador can smell the components of electronic media, even a micro-card as small as a fingernail that a suspect could easily hide.
From the article:
The 2-year-old rescue pooch nosed out a thumb drive that humans had failed to find during a search of Fogle's Indiana house in July, several weeks before he agreed to plead guilty to having X-rated images of minors and paying to have sex with teenage girls.
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Porn-Sniffing Dog Helped Bring Down Subway Star Jared Fogle
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(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 26 2015, @10:25PM
Sounds like they just caught another person who looked at images and videos. Apparently he also had sex with some 17 year old prostitute (The most horrible crime of all...). Unless he actually raped someone, this isn't going to change a damn thing. The people who actually rape people to make this stuff are still out there.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 26 2015, @10:40PM
I was wondering about that. Seems like it was worse - actively soliciting for sex with girls as young as 14. Some people will make an argument that's not pedophilia since they are past the age of menses. But he is also accused of encouraging the director of his charity to make hidden-cam videos of girls as young as 9.
Source: http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/heres-every-terrible-thing-jared-fogle-accused-doing-166485 [adweek.com]
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2015, @03:04AM
Its not pedophilia, for the exact reason you give. The very definition of "pedophilia" is "sex with a prepubescent". A 14 year old would be either pubescent (hebephilia) or post-pubescent (ephebophilia). The big difference between pedophilia and hebephilia/ephebophilia is puberty, you know, those physical changes that happen when a person becomes sexually mature. There is plenty thats immoral and wrong about pedophilia, but nothing at all immoral or wrong about hebe/ephebophilia.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 27 2015, @03:26AM
No. Just stop.
Age of consent is not the same as age of puberty. OK? And taking porn photos/movies requires age of majority in most sane nations. OK?
These are not difficult concepts to realize. Laws exist to protect kids from predators, be that other people, or sadly, even their own family. In some places, there is even a notion of statutory rape which is probably the only gray area here.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by shortscreen on Thursday August 27 2015, @05:07AM
The post you replied to was about two things: semantics, and morality. You completely ignored the issue of semantics and went ahead using broad, loaded terms "kids" and "predators." You completely dodged the issue of morality by talking about laws instead. Well done.
(Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Thursday August 27 2015, @06:25AM
You speak of law, not morality or whether or not the definitions presented were correct.
And taking porn photos/movies requires age of majority in most sane nations.
So there are some nations you would deem "sane" where that is not the case?
Laws exist to protect kids from predators
Laws don't exist solely for children. A child's life is not worth more than an adult's life.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anal Pumpernickel on Thursday August 27 2015, @06:20AM
A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent people. Not sure how someone could disagree with that, yet the media, normal people, and even politicians often do not understand what it actually means. A pedophile is not necessarily a rapist, for one.
There is plenty thats immoral and wrong about pedophilia
The actions or the fantasies? Pedophilia can also refer to mere fantasies. I believe rape is wrong regardless of whether they're children, but if it is just a fantasy, I do not see the issue.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday August 27 2015, @05:45PM
Its not pedophilia, for the exact reason you give.
Legal terms are defined in the context (or, the actual text) of the laws in question. This is like going into a Computer Science class and arguing that a pointer is a type of dog.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2015, @03:07AM
The correct legal term here is not be "pedophilia" either, its "statutory rape" or "carnal knowledge".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 28 2015, @03:33AM
And sometimes legal terms are confusing and should change. For instance, "intellectual property" is nothing more than a propaganda term designed to cause confusion, despite the fact that it's used in the legal world. Likewise, the legal world's definition of "pedophilia" should not be used if they define it as anything dissimilar to the above. It would only create confusion and further perpetuate the myth that pedophiles are necessarily child molesters, or that anyone who had sex with someone below the age of consent is a pedophile.
There are many words [gnu.org] we should avoid using in certain contexts. If language indeed evolves, and it does, then it can also evolve in positive ways that allow us to communicate more clearly. Reject terms that are designed to sow confusion or spread propaganda.