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posted by CoolHand on Sunday August 30 2015, @11:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the skynet-here-we-come dept.

In order to get law enforcement lobby support for a law requiring warrants to deploy drones for surveillance, North Dakota legislators decided to allow law enforcement to use "less-than-lethal" weaponized drones:

Legal experts are very concerned that a new North Dakota law which allows law enforcement drones to be armed with so-called less-than-lethal weapons—including stun guns and beanbag rounds—could be highly problematic. The law, however, explicitly forbids lethal weapons. Previous drafts of the bill specifically included prohibitions on non-lethal weapons, language that was later removed.

Among other reasons, such weapons have been shown that they can, in fact, kill people. According to research by The Guardian, 39 Americans have died this year alone at the hands of police wielding a Taser. Meanwhile, the Associated Press reported Wednesday that more than 20 North American cities are pursuing large silicone-based projectiles as yet another alternative weapon.

North Dakota is believed to be the first state in the union to allow such weapons aboard state and local police drones.

[...] The law, known as House Bill 1328, which took effect earlier this month, imposes a significant pro-privacy victory: requiring that police and sheriff's deputies get a warrant when deploying a drone for surveillance. [...] However, in order to get the measure through the state's legislative body, the bill's author told Ars that he had to do a little horse trading with the state law enforcement lobby, the North Dakota Peace Officers' Association, which had strongly lobbied against it.


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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday August 30 2015, @03:30PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday August 30 2015, @03:30PM (#229858) Journal

    It is true that North Dakota is very flat. It has almost always been incredibly boring. Even the governor of the state was once caught doing 110mph with a radar detector in his Cadillac. Even he didn't want to spend more time looking at the landscape in his home state than he had to. It is the one place in the world where you are glad to see the constant billboards (all for Wall Drug), because they save you from having to look at the countryside.

    North Dakota has changed a great deal in the last 5 years. The oil operations in the Bakken Formation have re-created the Wild West that surrounded the Gold Rush in California. It spills over into my home state, which also shares some access to the formation. Bus drivers make six figure salaries, every possible form of lodging down to campsites is taken by oil workers, prostitution, drug use, bar brawls, shootings, etc are epidemic.

    The idea of police using weaponized drones is terrible. It should not be allowed. It opens the door to everyone following suit. You can see, against the backdrop of what's happening there lately, why police and legislators have reflexively allowed it.

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  • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Monday August 31 2015, @03:18AM

    by Reziac (2489) on Monday August 31 2015, @03:18AM (#230022) Homepage

    My first thought was -- what on earth does ND need drones for anyway? to chase farmers hauling hay across the Canadian border? (Lots of farms straddle the border. Including my great-granddad's.)

    My second was -- when does the season open?

    BTW if you like to eat, flat is good. Flat is productive. Flat is easy to cultivate, plant, irrigate, and harvest. The more lumps, the less productive for crops. Next time you're stuffing your face, give thanks to flat.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday August 31 2015, @11:03PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday August 31 2015, @11:03PM (#230506) Journal

      North Dakota is not particularly productive. It's all strip farming because otherwise they'd have to let everything lie fallow every 3rd year to avoid completely depleting the soil. Flat also has little to do with productivity. Soil quality and growing season and fertilizer and technique do. Indonesia does quite well with productivity and much of their arable land is terraced hills. People in the amazon basin growing on terra preta can get *8* crops/year.

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