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posted by CoolHand on Monday August 31 2015, @09:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the dress-up-time dept.

If you're like me and couldn't be arsed to make it up to Seattle this year but still dig you some gaming in general and PAX in particular, gamespot has a couple articles up covering the best cosplay and game related crap to buy there this year. As usual, there were way too many Deadpools.

Mind you, if you're looking for aggressive navels, you won't find them at PAX this year as they were banned. This didn't sit well with some on Twitter, thus the hashtag #PAXNavelPolicy was spawned by the wacky folks of #GamerGate for all your navel needs. Sic Semper Umbilicus.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by gman003 on Monday August 31 2015, @11:11PM

    by gman003 (4155) on Monday August 31 2015, @11:11PM (#230507)

    We have reached a new low. Commenters not reading the fucking article is expected. Editors not reading the fucking article is a sad inevitability. But we seem to have now reached the point where the submitter did not read the article.

    The rules about navels are part of the "no booth babes" section. I will quote it below verbatim, because I seem to be the only one capable of reading TFA anymore.

    PAX has a strict ‘no booth babe’ policy with the purpose of creating an environment where everyone can feel comfortable and welcome, and the focus is on games, not hired booth staff.

    Booth babes are defined as staff of ANY gender used by exhibitors to promote their products at PAX by using overtly sexual or suggestive methods. Partial nudity, the aggressive display of cleavage and the navel, and shorts/skirts higher than 4” above the knee are not allowed. If for any reason an exhibit and/or its contents are deemed objectionable to PAX management, the exhibitor will be asked to alter the attire of its staff.

    Cosplayed characters that are playable in-game are an exception to this rule (within reason), and exhibitors must obtain permission from show management prior to the show.

    If for any reason an exhibit and/or its contents are deemed objectionable to PAX management, the exhibitor will be asked to alter the attire of its staff or remove those staff from the show.

    Cosplaying attendees may be asked to alter or modify their costume if it is considered overtly sexual.

    Only the last clause applies to attendees at all, and the [gamespot.com] summary's [gamespot.com] own [gamespot.com] links [gamespot.com] show a number of attendees that would violate the stricter exhibitor rules. I was unable to find rules for the earliest PAXen, but to my recollection there was a "no booth babes" policy from day one, in an attempt to make it less commercial than E3. I was able to find that the rule in question existed in 2013 [archive.org] in its current form, so this is about as big a controversy as their "no real-looking gun props" rule.

    And I still don't get what any of that has to do with GamerGate. Or why we even need to talk about GamerGate, since both sides have repeatedly proven themselves to be nothing but whiny children.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 31 2015, @11:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 31 2015, @11:17PM (#230509)

    So what you are saying is that PAX organisers are not SWJ but old school puritans ?

    • (Score: 2) by gman003 on Monday August 31 2015, @11:30PM

      by gman003 (4155) on Monday August 31 2015, @11:30PM (#230517)

      It would be rather hard for them to be SJWs, considering they were Team Dickwolves in the Dickwolves controversy (or is it called DickwolfGate now?).

      I think it more likely that they're gamers, running a convention about games. Surprisingly enough, bare midriffs have nothing to do with games, either video, tabletop, LARP or card.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 31 2015, @11:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 31 2015, @11:47PM (#230528)

        No, just old school puritans.then. Speaking of games I played quite a lot of them with characters with bare midriffs, being scared of them is nothing else than puritanism trying to hide under modern day PC. People complaining about right-wingers, was not the fear of nudity the epitome of right-wing ? Or maybe the so-called liberals are nothing more now than "petite bourgeoisie", as always small minded and so ugly to hate the human body ?

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 31 2015, @11:26PM

    And I still don't get what any of that has to do with GamerGate. Or why we even need to talk about GamerGate, since both sides have repeatedly proven themselves to be nothing but whiny children.

    Because GGers were the ones who set up the mentioned protest hashtag. No more, no less. As for why it was set up? Because "aggressive navels" is an absurd concept and fun to play with. Whiny? You're the one taking a joke seriously enough that it's gotten you all worked up. Have a beer and relax.

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    • (Score: 4, Touché) by gman003 on Monday August 31 2015, @11:38PM

      by gman003 (4155) on Monday August 31 2015, @11:38PM (#230519)

      I notice you failed to address all the other arguments I had against you. If you've somehow forgotten, I refer to "these rules have been around for a while", "these rules apply to exhibitors, not attendees", and "your own articles provide direct evidence against your position". I am forced to conclude you have no answer to them, and are attempting (rather blatantly) to distract everyone from how you have no answer.

      I will end by asking one further question: what, exactly, is your criticism of this rule? Your hashtag link is extremely lacking in explanation; AFAICT it's basically just a tag for cheesecake and softcore porn.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday August 31 2015, @11:44PM

        What part of "joke" escapes you, man? Jokes do not need to be factually correct, just amusing. The wording change to exclude aggressive navels was funny, it got mocked, by GG, which is the only reason GG got mentioned, end of story.

        AFAICT it's basically just a tag for cheesecake and softcore porn.

        Now you've got it!

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        • (Score: 5, Informative) by gman003 on Monday August 31 2015, @11:59PM

          by gman003 (4155) on Monday August 31 2015, @11:59PM (#230536)

          So should all stories now have a random link to a porn site at the end, tying it to a fringe political group? Excellent. I've a nice video on C64 graphics to share with you all, brought to you by Slipshine and the Oath Keepers.

          Alternatively - and I know this is a shocking idea, but bear with me for a moment - we could try not doing that. That sounds like an excellent idea, in fact. A simple extension of the "articles should be about one thing" axiom - don't cram links to joke hashtags and half-crazy culture movements into articles about, well, anything else.

          I would have had zero problem with your summary if you'd only kept the first two sentences. Maybe only the first, actually - you seem to find a lot to be negative about, for some reason. Chaining the article to a stupid joke made by some very stupid people served no purpose other than to fan the flamewars, which I will pragmatically assume was not your intended purpose.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:10AM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:10AM (#230541) Homepage Journal

            You read a lot of anger into my tone that just isn't there, guy. As for lame jokes, their purpose is to give people either a groan or a chuckle and then let them move on. Why you feel the need to get worked up about it because of its origin is on you.

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            • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:29AM

              by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:29AM (#230549)

              Bringing up GamerGate amuses anyone?

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    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Tuesday September 01 2015, @04:51AM

      by mhajicek (51) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @04:51AM (#230659)

      I'm drinking a nitro milk stout from left hand brewing company. It is the awesome.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:58PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:58PM (#230775) Journal

    A friend of mine is a professional actor, clown, mask maker, playwright, and general performer. He likes whiskey, so occasionally we hang out and drink from his latest acquisition, talk politics, etc. Most of his other friends are performers of one kind or another and they often join us.

    Last time his friend Juliet (yes, that's her name) was there. Beautiful blonde. I prefer brunettes but I have to give her her due. She danced burlesque, picked up bit parts, blogged, and various other things. But her favorite and best gig was being a booth babe, especially at the Javitz Center because with a little wink and jiggle she could get the guys to give her big tips. She waxed incensed at the feminist crusaders who wanted to ban booth babes because it was a big part of her livelihood. "It's the best gig you can get," she said.

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