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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday September 01 2015, @12:43AM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-just-date-get-married dept.

Brian Booker writes at Digital Journal that carbon dating suggests that the Koran, or at least portions of it, may actually be older than the prophet Muhammad himself, a finding that if confirmed could rewrite early Islamic history and shed doubt on the "heavenly" origins of the holy text. Scholars believe that a copy Koran held by the Birmingham Library was actually written sometime between 545 AD and 568 [takyon: 568 and 645 AD, with 95.4% accuracy], while the Prophet Mohammad was believed to have been born in 570 AD and to have died in 632 AD. It should be noted, however, that the dating was only conducted on the parchment, rather than the ink, so it is possible that the quran was simply written on old paper. Some scholars believe, however, that Muhammad did not receive the Quran from heaven, as he claimed during his lifetime, but instead collected texts and scripts that fit his political agenda.

"This gives more ground to what have been peripheral views of the Koran's genesis, like that Muhammad and his early followers used a text that was already in existence and shaped it to fit their own political and theological agenda, rather than Muhammad receiving a revelation from heaven," says Keith Small, from the University of Oxford's Bodleian Library. "'It destabilises, to put it mildly, the idea that we can know anything with certainty about how the Koran emerged," says Historian Tom Holland. "and that in turn has implications for the history of Muhammad and the Companions."


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 01 2015, @01:17AM

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @01:17AM (#230578) Journal

    Is anybody doubting that various holy books aren't human creations and exercises in philosophy? (When they're not documentation of ancient legal systems.) (Don't answer that.)

    Good grief! Reconcile the Book of Mormon with the Koran and then we'll be talking about an actual monotheistic metaphysical science. In b4 mikeeusa.

    I recently read about Theosophy [wikipedia.org], and mind = blown. Apparently somebody took a Dragon Ball Z approach to metaphysics. (Centuries before that selfsame reinterpretation of part of the old Chinese story Journey to the West [wikipedia.org], thus proving time travel!)

    Math goes west, I tell you! Circles are evil! The US president's eye is a circle! (Why can't I find the link?!) Instead you get Timecube!

    When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 – major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth – known as Midday and Midnight. Where the 2 major Time forces join, synergy creates 2 new minor Time points we recognize as Sunup and Sundown.

    The 4-equidistant Time points can be considered as Time Square imprinted upon the circle of Earth. In a single rotation of the Earth sphere, each Time corner point rotates through the other 3-corner Time points, thus creating 16 corners, 96 hours and 4-simultaneous 24-hour Days within a single rotation of Earth – equated to a Higher Order of Life Time Cube.

    Ah, these humans. What a creative bunch! Always innovating new reasons to kill each other!

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  • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 01 2015, @01:21AM

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @01:21AM (#230581) Journal

    Derp!

    Is anybody doubting that various holy books aren't human creations and exercises in philosophy?

    I derpa'ed my negative modifiers! Of course they're exercises in philosophy (when not documenting ancient events).

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @01:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @01:23AM (#230585)

      Too late, show us your birth certificate.

      • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 01 2015, @02:05AM

        by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @02:05AM (#230600) Journal

        Here it is! Honest! Even with that M category I can't get rid of! I will not be running for US president! Otherwise my eye would be a circle! Copper is made of circles!

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @12:13PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @12:13PM (#231690)

          Stupid SJW fuck.
          Yea, the OT is all about your gibberish.
          Hahaha you're so superior.

          Hope you are kildt.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @12:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @12:43AM (#232469)

    Who the fuck is mikeeusa?