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posted by martyb on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the on-the-bleeding-edge dept.

Our home just gained a shiny new HP laptop, which was immediately upgraded to Windows 10.

Much of the last tweny-four hours has been consumed by two tasks: making it print to an HP printer networked to our router, and moving email from Windows Live Mail on an XP box to the same program on the W10 machine.

If I run into a Linux problem (or even Android) I can usually visit a forum or other resource and get an answer in a few minutes. With Windows I'm Googling madly and chasing many more dead ends than useful answers.

And yes, that not surprisingly includes Microsoft's own sites.

So Soylentils, what are your go-to places for good-quality Windows 10 information?


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:11PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:11PM (#232715)

    My network shared printer worked fine on XP and Linux, Replaced XP with 7 and everything went to permission hell. Never got it working even after upgrading to 10. I scoured the Internet, including MS, for way longer than it should have to. Gave up.

  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:24PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:24PM (#232723)

    If you read the EULA for the print drivers, you are only allowed to install the software on *one* machine. Not sure if that is related to the problem you and the OP were having.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:41PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @08:41PM (#232733)

      Pffft. Works fine on Linux. Never worked on Win7 and up.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 06 2015, @01:20AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 06 2015, @01:20AM (#232825)

      You've read the EULAs for all the printer drivers he could possibly be using, and they all state they can only be installed on one machine? Wow! Either you're talking out of your arse, or you must have been really bored to think reading all those EULAs was worth doing.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 06 2015, @04:20AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 06 2015, @04:20AM (#232883)

        I tried to buy an HP printer before ultimately returning it. the EULAs are fairly boiler-plate.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @09:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 05 2015, @09:17PM (#232748)

    What printer is it?? Old printers are like window machines... Toss in trash.

    Now, get a RPi and make it printer server, then you should be good to good.

    At office we have hp jetdirect boxes (10baseT) to handle old printers. No longer can see the JAVA webpages - to old of java. Newest 2016 test box, cannot be setup as a print server to them either. DRIVERS are not supported.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by ledow on Saturday September 05 2015, @11:14PM

      by ledow (5567) on Saturday September 05 2015, @11:14PM (#232785) Homepage

      Stop buying crappy printers that don't support the generic Postscript drivers and/or plug into the Ethernet or at the very least (for home use) wireless.

      It doesn't matter what OS you use, crappy propreitary protocols on your printer will eventually push you into obsolesence. And, no, CUPS won't save you. I can point to at least half a dozen printer models I've used where the Linux "support" (even when advertised) consisted of a binary driver to interpret their own protocol that plugs into CUPS (and stops working when you update CUPS or the underlying system), or actually just never works.

      I've just spent an instructive afternoon trying to auto-print support emails to a particular networked printer from a major manufacturer. Works fine with Windows drivers. Under Linux, I had to enable FTP printing and FTP a postscript to it. Hint: You can't do that automatically under CUPS without scripts. None of the supposed drivers (manufacturer's, similar model names from openprinting, etc.) would work at all, or only produced garbage. Even with working ones, things like non-standard paper sizes or booklet printing or even duplex? Forget it.

      Buy better printers, don't blame the OS. If it doesn't do PLAIN POSTSCRIPT and get an IP address itself, it's a piece of home-targetted shite.