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- Providing a soapbox for experts to discuss their profession and solicit questions from a curious audience.
- Allowing the community to comment, without any mandatory registration.
- Staying mindful of the community's needs and wants while avoiding changes to satisfy an overarching corporate agenda.
We want to make this your source for news about technology, art, and science. We are the new kid on the block and are adapting quickly to satisfy our community's needs, as we look forward to exceeding your expectations and pushing boundaries like never before. Lastly, there will be no changes in format without a general consensus from the community. Thank you for stopping by and enjoy the ride!
~Dopefish
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On Monday February 17 2014, at 02:06AM SoylentNews announced itself to the world!
(That's exactly seven years ago from the time this story posts.) Does it seem possible? I know it certainly amazes me.
A lot can happen in a year. Here are some items of note. As always, if you are not interested in this kind of stuff, ignore this post — a new story will be along shortly. Otherwise, this story continues below the fold.
- Random Statistics
- Site News
- Staff Activity
- Folding@Home
NB: An earlier version of this story containing much more detail seems to have jumped into a bit bucket. Please forgive any errors that crept into this quick reincarnation attempt!
Random Statistics:
Over the past year, activity on the site comes to:
| Journals: | 2,161 |
| Stories: | 3,927 |
| Moderations: | 114,020 |
| Comments: | 155,098 |
We previously had a great number of posts on the COVID-19 pandemic. It is still with us, but vaccines are starting to be rolled out. Sadly, variants of the coronavirus have appeared, and some appear to be more contagious than the earlier strains. We had let up on our coverage of late, because trying to merge 20-30 story submissions was extremely demanding of time and energy — yet with decreasing amounts of discussion.
In spite of the hit that COVID-19 had on the community, we had a successful fundraiser last year. When we have official results, we will get them to you.
Thank You!
On the occasion of the site's sixth anniversary, I thought it fitting to mention some of the many ways that fellow Soylentils contribute to our community. This also seems like a good opportunity to mention some of the site's history, relate some staffing changes, mention other contributions by the SoylentNews community, and to wrap things up with some site statistics.
Please accept our thanks:
These thanks go out to all of you: my fellow members of the SoylentNews community.
To the Anonymous Cowards who post comments to our site (be they inciteful or insightful). To our registered users who not only post comments, but are also the only members who can moderate comments. No matter how long you have been here; whether you have just arrived (Welcome!) or have been with us from the very start... Thank You!
Speaking of which, thanks go to our staff who bludgeoned and duct-taped an ancient unmaintained open-sourced version of the code underpinning slashdot into some sort of basic functionality, and who have since made it the site you are enjoying today. Thanks, too, to our behind-the-scenes staff members, who keep the underlying services we depend on, running 24/7. Other staff members are more visible, like the editorial team who spend several hours every single day processing the stories that get posted to the site.
And let's not forget the members of the community who purchase subscriptions and thereby fund the operations of this site. We do have real world expenses: paying for our servers, domain registrations, and paying a CPA (Certified Public Accountant) to do our taxes.
Read on past the fold for all the rest!
Exactly eight years ago, HTTPS was uncommon, COVID-19 never existed, the 2014 Winter Olympics were under way, and ... SoylentNews was born!
What a ride it's been! As the word changed and swirled about us, SoylentNews has persevered through it all. I thank all the members of the community who have been with us since the beginning and welcome those who only recently joined us!
A special thanks go out to all those volunteers who got the site off the ground and set up a solid foundation upon which this site could be built. Thanks, too, to all who have contributed to the site. Doing coding, writing journal entries, moderating and writing comments, maintaining the support services upon which the site depends. I know of no other site that has the sense of community that I see established here. Thanks to you ALL!
Recent Site Activity:
(Score: 5, Insightful) by xlefay on Monday February 17 2014, @02:07AM
Great news guys, thanks for your hard and awesome work! Let's rock!
(Score: 3, Funny) by samzenpus on Monday February 17 2014, @06:00AM
Yeah! Wheres the beer?
(Score: 2, Funny) by timothy on Monday February 17 2014, @06:01AM
How bout that? You too?!
(Score: 2, Funny) by Soulskill on Monday February 17 2014, @06:06AM
It's a party!
(Score: 3, Funny) by Lagg on Monday February 17 2014, @06:34AM
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @07:26AM
Methinks someone meant to hit +1 Funny, not +1 Insightful..
(Score: 1) by Eunuchswear on Monday February 17 2014, @02:13PM
The UTF-8 support is a lie.
Watch this Heartland Institute video [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @02:20PM
Well, sort of. I can see Unicode goodies in other people's posts, just can't conjure them myself.
(Score: 1) by maxwell demon on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:17AM
They seem to work only with entities like ζ but not with direct entry like à¥. Apparently the UTF8-bytes get interpreted as latinn1 instead.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by maxwell demon on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:22AM
Oops, I should also have given the input form. In the first case, it was ζ, in the second form the unicode character U+0950 entered directly. Well, actually (as you probably have guessed by now), I meant to use ॐ, resulting in ॐ.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by maxwell demon on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:25AM
Err ... resulting in ॐ of course — I really should have used preview ...
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by maxwell demon on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:29AM
And I see nesting ends at level 7. Is this configurable somewhere? I've got enough screen space to allow several more nesting levels.
Note that it may make sense to store the maximal nesting level in a cookie, to allow different settings on different devices.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by mrcoolbp on Monday February 17 2014, @06:10AM
and me with no mod points....
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 2, Funny) by CmdrTaco on Monday February 17 2014, @06:48AM
Hey guys remember me? Great site you have here.
(Score: 1) by cosurgi on Monday February 17 2014, @08:44AM
sure I remember you! :)
#
#\ @ ? [adom.de] Colonize Mars [kozicki.pl]
#
(Score: 1) by zocalo on Monday February 17 2014, @09:22AM
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @01:53PM
You're dead to me, Taco. You sold out.
(Score: 1) by tangomargarine on Monday February 17 2014, @04:06PM
Already I see the possibility that this could be more Slashdot than Slashdot is now, which would be sweet. Although I'm sure it'll have its share of problems.
Time will tell.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2, Informative) by crutchy on Monday February 17 2014, @06:49AM
deleted my /. bookmark... created soylent one in its place :-)
g'day from australia fellow geeks & nerds
(Score: 1) by mrbluze on Monday February 17 2014, @07:18AM
I love having some Soylent on my homepage.
Do it yourself, 'cause no one else will do it yourself.
(Score: 1) by Kell on Monday February 17 2014, @09:02AM
Aussies represent! Up just in time for the end of Slashcott downunder!
Scientists ask questions. Engineers solve problems.
(Score: 1) by Sir William on Monday February 17 2014, @06:56AM
I agree. Thanks for the hard work everyone.
(Score: 1) by crutchy on Monday February 17 2014, @07:33AM
don't seem to be able to use the 'Submit Story' feature at the moment... i just thought i'd flag a little saga currently unfolding near where i live
an open cut coal mine that supplies coal to a nearby 1600MW power station has been on fire for over a week
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/min e-smoke-hits-19-vic-firefighters/story-fni0xqi4-12 26829247880 [heraldsun.com.au]
what might be more interesting is the lack of news media attention to it
(Score: 1) by Popeidol on Monday February 17 2014, @11:14AM
To see just how bad this can get, There's a coal seam in the US that's been burning since 1962. The adjacent town had to be evacuated after houses started collapsing into the ground and carbon monoxide poisoning became a risk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 1) by clone141166 on Monday February 17 2014, @11:18AM
crutchy I have submitted your story via the submission page (for whatever reason it seems to work for me) and credited you for it - I just copied in your comment verbatim.
(Score: 1) by hal9000 on Monday February 17 2014, @08:03AM
wait...
(Score: 1) by ionescu77 on Monday February 17 2014, @11:53AM
Hi and thank you for the hard work.
I am very happy to see the original slashdot spirit alive.
Best regards
(Score: 1) by dilbert on Monday February 17 2014, @12:19PM
Cheers, and kudos to the community for showing how to 'roll your own'
(Score: 1) by arlo5724 on Monday February 17 2014, @01:01PM
Very awesome, congrats!
And I finally got that much-coveted 3-digit user number
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Reality is not always probable, or likely.
(Score: 1) by hb253 on Monday February 17 2014, @05:22PM
Amazing job, the site looks great!
I also get 3 digit ID!
The firings and offshore outsourcing will not stop until morale improves.
(Score: 1) by Geezer on Monday February 17 2014, @01:12PM
Take that, smelly Dice Beta English pigs! I fart in your general direction!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @01:24PM
Congratulations to everyone involved in getting this up and running! I (like most others) have been reading the wiki and forums for over a week, checking in constantly to see how things were going. Great work guys and gals! I can't imagine ever going back to that other place.
(Score: 1) by biokoded on Tuesday February 18 2014, @03:45AM
Agreed
(Score: 1) by Klik on Monday February 17 2014, @01:25PM
Awesome work, guys.
Nought to working ( mostly ) in under a couple of weeks! Wow!
As someone who saw the 'other place' as a part of his daily routine since the 90s, i'm so glad that something of its original nature has returned, in a new form. Best of luck, everyone, and may we agree to disagree for many many years on...
Klik
Open your mind too much and your brain will fall out...
(Score: 1) by Nmb on Monday February 17 2014, @01:41PM
Awesome, as good memories I have from Slashdot, it's great to see alternative.
(Score: 1) by j-stroy on Monday February 17 2014, @05:12PM
Very appreciative.. I just felt icky when I looked at slashdot.. Keep it going! New avid reader.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @03:35PM
mcgrew here. I registered that user name (I'm mcgrew at slashdot and was at k5 as well) a couple of weeks ago when it was called altslashdot. Today I tried to log in and it rejected my password. When I went to retrieve it your database had no idea who I was.
WTF, guys?
(Score: 5, Funny) by stderr on Monday February 17 2014, @02:10AM
... and there was much rejoining!
alias sudo="echo make it yourself #" #
(Score: 1) by Gaaark on Monday February 17 2014, @02:21AM
Love your sig, lol. Wearing my sandwich shirt today! Woot!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @06:44AM
Well, that worked spectacularly. Can someone unban me? =P
(Score: 1) by CoolHand on Monday February 17 2014, @12:07PM
(seriously I'm tickled pink - or something like that - that I have a site like this again to call home - and hopefully it will be community driven this time)
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 3, Insightful) by clone141166 on Monday February 17 2014, @02:27AM
Great work, congrats to all. Thank you very much for making this happen!
(Score: 1) by richmond on Monday February 17 2014, @03:13AM
Seconded! Thanks for all the hard work so far, it is coming along quickly. Great job!
(Score: 1) by TheSage on Monday February 17 2014, @06:05AM
Thirded! I really didn't believe you could set this up so quickly. I'm impressed.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by NCommander on Monday February 17 2014, @06:09AM
Oh, the novels that could be written on making this happen. I've got some quotes that sum it up to be shared at a later date.
Still always moving
(Score: 1) by nobbis on Monday February 17 2014, @07:29AM
Looking forward to the novel.
Congrats to all who made it happen, to get the site up in such a short time shows real dedication and skill.
It's easy to look up when your mind's in the gutter
(Score: 1) by omoc on Monday February 17 2014, @06:03AM
now let the advertising begin
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Covalent on Monday February 17 2014, @02:29AM
...wait. This is about NOT having overlords. This is about getting things back to the way they should be. I'm NOT going to use this old meme.
Instead, kudos to everyone who worked so hard on this. The new site promises to be everything that other site used to be and more. Let's all work hard to ensure that we tell people about this place and promote it wherever we go. There's very little money yet, so do your part and spread the word.
You can't rationally argue somebody out of a position they didn't rationally get into.
(Score: 2, Funny) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @02:32AM
In Slashdot Beta, Dice rolls you!
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 2, Funny) by regift_of_the_gods on Monday February 17 2014, @06:38AM
In Soviet Russia, site forks YOU
(Score: 1) by hemocyanin on Monday February 17 2014, @07:08AM
Frist Post!!
Well, my first post here that is....
(Score: 1) by pe1rxq on Monday February 17 2014, @10:14PM
me too!
(Score: 1) by Popsikle on Monday February 17 2014, @02:33AM
But But But... there is actually NEW overlords now! Unlike always saluting the same overlords wearing shiny new hats ;/
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @02:43AM
I can neither confirm nor deny the presence of overlords, nor that I am one of them. That is all. Move along.
(Score: 1) by weilawei on Monday February 17 2014, @05:30AM
Anyone feel like submitting some YRO style stories? I seem not to have been around long enough to submit.
(Score: 1) by everdred on Monday February 17 2014, @05:29AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @07:40AM
http://goat.cx/ [goat.cx]
someone had to do it
(Score: 1) by stroucki on Monday February 17 2014, @02:47AM
Congratulations to the SoylentNews team for their work in getting the site up in one week, and best wishes for a successful future!
æå–œå‘è´¢ï¼
(Score: 2, Insightful) by mrbluze on Monday February 17 2014, @03:40AM
I can see a fad of unicode sigs coming our way.
Do it yourself, 'cause no one else will do it yourself.
(Score: 1) by stroucki on Monday February 17 2014, @05:21AM
Perhaps one day it will work?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by SigveKolbeinson on Monday February 17 2014, @01:00PM
You must be new here
(Score: 1) by mechanicjay on Monday February 17 2014, @01:34PM
By definition aren't we all new here?
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @01:59PM
> By definition aren't we all new here?
First woosh! w00t!!
(Score: 1) by maxwell demon on Thursday February 20 2014, @07:36AM
Except that it's "whoosh". ;-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
(Score: 1) by FatPhil on Monday February 17 2014, @11:21PM
It was copy-paste from the fine articles that always used to get f*cked up:
Gábor Szabó
Jussi Sydänmaa
Ivar Bjørnson
Yavuz Çetin
Alirio DÃaz
But yes - hoorah for those who finally said both "we've had enough" and "and I'm going to do something about it".
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1) by FatPhil on Tuesday February 18 2014, @01:16AM
<div id="comment_body_1168"><p>It was copy-paste from the fine articles that always used to get f*cked up:<br>Gábor Szabó<br>Jussi Sydänmaa<br>Ivar Bjørnson<br>Yavuz Çetin<br>Alirio Díaz</p><p>But yes - hoorah for those who finally said both "we've had enough" and "and I'm going to do something about it".</p></div>
And this time, I'm hoping firebug records the data I send as I try to send an A-twiddle:
Ã
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1) by combatserver on Monday February 17 2014, @03:00AM
"...Staying mindful of the community's needs and wants, and in no certain terms, swaying to an overarching corporate agenda."
Certainty aside, do we really want to be swaying to an overarching corporate agenda?
I hope I can change this later...
(Score: 2, Informative) by Dopefish on Monday February 17 2014, @03:08AM
Hi combatserver,
I rephrased the point to better emphasize not swaying to a corporate agenda. Thank you for your feedback!
(Score: 1) by Nerdfest on Monday February 17 2014, @03:14AM
Much better.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Nerdfest on Monday February 17 2014, @03:11AM
Thanks to everyone for their hard work so far (and much in the future no doubt) to hopefully give us a place for intelligent discussion, humour, and community. It's been a while and I think many of us have missed it.
(Score: 1) by similar_name on Monday February 17 2014, @05:24AM
Congratulations to those of you pulling this off!
(Score: 1) by Cactus on Monday February 17 2014, @05:26AM
Good to see it come together!
(Score: 1) by zford on Monday February 17 2014, @05:27AM
Good work team!
(Score: 1) by lepspirosis on Monday February 17 2014, @08:16AM
Hear, Hear
(Score: 1) by Landon on Monday February 17 2014, @05:28AM
It's been a pleasure seeing you all work so hard to get the site up and here it is!
(Score: 1) by Khyber on Monday February 17 2014, @05:30AM
So far, this is working out better than expected! Couple nitpicks about the Simple UI but otherwise we're rockin'!
Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
(Score: 1) by tibman on Monday February 17 2014, @06:12AM
No mod points that i can see yet. I'm afraid!
SN won't survive on lurkers alone. Write comments.
(Score: 1) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @05:30AM
Somebody had to say it.
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 1) by dilbert on Monday February 17 2014, @12:17PM
I'm glad soylentnews is finally up. I recognize it was a herculean effort to get this site running in under two weeks, but the lastweek was tough given the slashcott and no soylentnews.
I'm up for extending the slashcott another week. :)
(Score: 1) by linsane on Monday February 17 2014, @02:32PM
while soylentnewsoverlords=="awesome":
browser.startup.homepage = "http://soylentnews.org/"
slashcott = True
(Score: 1) by Appalbarry on Monday February 17 2014, @05:32AM
... welcome our Soylent Overlords.
(Score: 1) by cloying on Monday February 17 2014, @05:36AM
Now it just needs to be green!
(Score: 1) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @05:40AM
"Now it just needs to be green!"
Well, you know what they say about it not being easy.
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 1) by cloying on Monday February 17 2014, @05:48AM
Didn't know the slashcott was extended, has this been previously publicized? Makes sense though. To be honest having a week away, I'm far more keen on posting here
(Score: 1) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @06:09AM
Pretty difficult to publicize since the Slashcotters aren't necessarily in one place, and of course there's not much way to get it visible over at /., but I've done my best to be a nuisance about it everywhere it was worth mentioning it.
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 1) by weilawei on Monday February 17 2014, @05:41AM
(Score: 5, Informative) by combatserver on Monday February 17 2014, @09:26AM
"Maybe we could get something a little more toned down"
The red is the DEFAULT theme for slashcode. The focus was on making everything WORK first, pretty later. But, it's in the works.
I hope I can change this later...
(Score: 1) by weilawei on Monday February 17 2014, @10:06AM
(Score: 1) by TheRaven on Monday February 17 2014, @02:18PM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 1) by excelsior_gr on Monday February 17 2014, @04:46PM
Yeah, don't forget to add whitespace ;-)
(Score: 1) by edIII on Monday February 17 2014, @07:41PM
Yes. We could tone it down a little and perhaps add a few things....
However, let's be very careful going down that road lest we have our heads shoved up our asses and we try to knock off Ars Technica poorly and end up treating ourselves like an audience again ;)
I'm just happy to keep this interface period. There was never anything else quite like the experience of posting on Slashdot, and thankfully now, SoylentNews.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @08:39AM
I'm liking this color.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @08:42AM
Replying to myself. Red is the color of the persistence of vision from green. This site can be said to be about the persistence of a vision.
(Score: 1) by carguy on Monday February 17 2014, @02:23PM
> I'm liking this color.
Seconded, easy on the eyes (at least on my screen).
(Score: 1) by Thexalon on Monday February 17 2014, @02:44PM
That's not "easy on the eyes". Easy on the eyes would be Natalie Portman.
Vote for Pedro
(Score: 1) by chebucto on Monday February 17 2014, @05:37AM
Huzzah! Thanks to everyone who's worked on this.
(Score: 1) by dkuagruu on Monday February 17 2014, @05:39AM
Congrats, team! Now lets cross our fingers that the community will migrate to here!
(Score: 1) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @05:42AM
...to break Slashcott long enough to go put a link to this site in your sig "over there".
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 3, Informative) by Khyber on Monday February 17 2014, @06:11AM
To add, doing so reverts the sig across all your comments.
So if you're a frequent poster, you'll be putting out serious exposure.
Might also help to change your website link to soylentnews.org as well.
Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
(Score: 1) by janrinok on Monday February 17 2014, @06:42AM
Khyber, good suggestion. Done!
I am not interested in knowing who people are or where they live. My interest starts and stops at our servers.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by dilbert on Monday February 17 2014, @12:38PM
It would never make it past the editors, but someone should submit an article at 'the other place' about SN.
(Score: 1) by cx on Monday February 17 2014, @12:45PM
I believe everyone who showed even slight interest for alternatives to
(Score: 1) by dilbert on Monday February 17 2014, @02:13PM
I can see your point, and agree that people who want an alternative probably already know about SoylentNews. I wasn't aware of AC's spamming threads on slashdot because I haven't visited the site for the past 8 days now.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @02:27PM
If you haven't been there I apologize for my abrasive tone. I find spam annoying whatever the product is and Slashdot was spammed heavily during the boycott.
(Score: 1) by cx on Monday February 17 2014, @02:31PM
I also find this 'posted as AC even though correctly previewed as myself' bug annoying.
- cx -
(Score: 1) by OSS542 on Monday February 17 2014, @05:08PM
not sure if my last comment went to the right place, so I'll try again, and reword it a bit...
Where is "official" news on the status of the boycott available ? How is it determined what is "official" and what is not ? I had heard that the boycott had already ended. Is this correct ? What has been the effect so far ? Who is coordinating this ?
(Score: 2, Informative) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @06:02PM
It's very simple.
I suggested a boycott. In a thread at Slashdot.
I discovered after having done so that an AC in a different thread had done so a couple of hours earlier, and they suggested the original dates.
I went back and noted that (an unknown) someone had had the idea before I had, and at that time I named it the Slashcott.
I named it, so it's mine, and I'm free to make whatever rules I want to.
And people are free to tell me to get stuffed if they don't want to observe those rules.
(apparently I'm psychic, as I already know what at least one of the replies to this post is going to say : - )
So if you were looking for the official Slashcott Steering Committee, or any of the sub-committees, I'm it. I decide what's official and official news of the status of the boycott is available wherever I can find to post it.
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 1) by weilawei on Monday February 17 2014, @05:45AM
Comments seem awfully squished if you use HTML formatted.
Here, I've added my own paragraph tag to gain margin/padding (didn't actually check the style).
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Pav on Monday February 17 2014, @05:45AM
The first step was difficult, but no more than the hundreds to come. :-/ This is no "mission accomplished" even though it's awesome. This will require effort and dedication from everyone including the community for a good while yet, but even if this site achieves nothing more it's already shown that a portion of the Slashdot community can take back control of its own destiny if it really wants to.
(Score: 1) by cybergimli on Monday February 17 2014, @12:55PM
It's already a great start in record time (I suspect that the launch was to coincide with the end of the Slashcott). FYI, this site is already more functional than Slashdot, since I'm stuck with IE 8 at work, which has zero compatibility with Slashdot Beta.
Keep up the good work.
C.
(Score: 1) by mojo chan on Monday February 17 2014, @01:30PM
Look at the average number of comments posted during the Slashdot boycott. I think a significant number of those people ended up here. We will see this week if Slashdot can recover.
PS. Make it green, the red scheme is horrible.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @01:36PM
I'd say the number of page views is much more important metric than the number of comments. Unfortunately, can't see that one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @01:38PM
Fuck you slashcode. I am not this AC guy you insist is writing my posts.
- cx -
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @03:23PM
It would look too much like Slashdot if it was green. That would be lame. It's mostly just about getting used to the red theme anyway.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2014, @02:58AM
Better yet, make it skinnable. No reason you can't look at a modern site in red, green, blue, or any random combination of those...
(Score: 1) by saudadelinux on Monday February 17 2014, @03:42PM
(Score: 1) by AudioGuy on Monday February 17 2014, @05:46AM
Works pefectly without javascript.
Glorious web 1.0 interface
No Ads!
Can actually read the text in the articles.
Nice wide display of comments.
No Beta crap.
(Score: 1) by captaindynamo on Monday February 17 2014, @08:42AM
Test post from a lynx browser session.
(Score: 1) by captaindynamo on Monday February 17 2014, @08:45AM
Sweet!
(Score: 1) by isostatic on Monday February 17 2014, @10:31AM
Now the issues:
No quote button
No background in the about page. Who started the site and why?
(Score: 1) by isostatic on Monday February 17 2014, @10:37AM
Ok, why is fairly obvious to those from The Original Place, but won't be in a years time.
And a button to quote would be very useful when posting from a padd.
(Score: 1) by linsane on Monday February 17 2014, @03:01PM
And by way of supporting evidence of T.O.P. popularity:2 C%20slashdot&cmpt=q [google.co.uk]
http://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=soylent%
(Score: 1) by SigveKolbeinson on Monday February 17 2014, @07:08PM
Given this [soylent.me], I don't think that comparison proves anything with regards to SN.
(Score: 1) by linsane on Monday February 17 2014, @07:15PM
Well, quoting from the page you linked, it seems this site name is more appropriate than I at first realised:
What the early adopters are saying:
"The cognitive effects are extremely noticeable, in fact the most noticeable for me."
"So far I've noticed a lot of what you all have been mentioning: healthier skin, less fatigue, focus even with less sleep."
"My mood experience! It has improved a lot lately. And by a lot, I mean A LOT."
"The time and money saved is making me really happy. Especially the time."
(Score: 1) by JeanCroix on Monday February 17 2014, @04:14PM
(Score: 1) by unitron on Monday February 17 2014, @05:49AM
...to a very small list of followers, most of whom don't even know about /., much less this place:
"http://soylentnews.org/ has gone live, but since we don't use the "b" word, think of it as alpha 2.0"
something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
(Score: 1) by SGT CAPSLOCK on Monday February 17 2014, @05:54AM
Great work, and very well done!
I've been having some problems commenting so I really hope this goes through this time... :p
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Cold Fjord on Monday February 17 2014, @05:56AM
Indonesia's former top spy master has accused his own President of exaggerating the problem of phone tapping, saying attempts by intelligence agencies to snoop on national leaders were "normal".
And former spy agency chief Abdullah Mahmud Hendropriyono has also punctured claims by his Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa that Indonesia would never tap the phones of Australian politicians, insisting it was a routine part of "black intelligence".
Mr Hendropriyono, the head of Badan Intelijen Negara (BIN) until 2004, has been thrust into the Australian political debate because of a TV interview he gave in 2004, in which he admitted to bugging Australian politicians.
In an interview with Fairfax Media, the former Indonesian army general has now amplified his 2004 comments, saying of Australia's attempts to listen to the conversations of President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, the first lady and their confidantes: "For intelligence, it's normal."
He added that Indonesia not only had the capacity to tap the phones of Australians, but that intelligence agencies also had a responsibility to try it, "friend or foe".
Asked if Indonesia could listen to Mr Abbott's phone, he said: "We have the ability to tap and to counter-tap". However, he also suggested that Australian counterintelligence would prevent this happening.
Mr Hendropriyono said human intelligence — what he called "white intelligence" — was standard practice in embassies worldwide, but that phone tapping was "the most reliable" way to confirm information gathered.
"Tapping and counter-tapping is quite common in the intelligence life, because it is one of their primary jobs," he said.
"Intelligence is judged like in sport, two boxers fighting in the ring. They punch and they counter-punch... They attack and they defend themselves, but it is in the ring — the ring of intelligence. If the officials, in this case politicians, interfere in the case, that is wrong. That is very wrong."
Now that it is in the political arena, the politicians have overreacted, he said.
"I hope that both our leaders, SBY as well as Tony Abbott should not be too emotional... Please do not deteriorate [the relationship] because of a very small thing. This is a very technical thing." Yes another US ally screwed by a Snowden leak. Can we assume at this point that we'll be hearing nothing about China, Russia, or Iran? Remember how Snowden claimed that he was an expert about Chinese activities and taught classes on them? I wonder what happened to that material?
(Score: 1) by SockPuppet on Monday February 17 2014, @06:21AM
Nice to see you too!
(Score: 1) by SGT CAPSLOCK on Monday February 17 2014, @06:30AM
Thanks for the effort!
The "Submit Story" link does seem to be broken, so I don't think anyone should blame CF for posting a story here...
For now, could you please try using the forums to submit stories until it gets fixed? The address is http://sylnt.us/call-for-stories [sylnt.us]
Regards
(Score: 1) by dmc on Monday February 17 2014, @09:57AM
I can interestingly verify that I'm unable to moderate this article because I already posted to it :) So that said, instead of upmodding the link from clone141166, I'll repost it here- here is the link to submit and track bugs-
https://dev.soylentnews.org/tracker/index.php?func =detail&aid=72&group_id=6&atid=102/ [soylentnews.org]
from- http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=88&cid=530 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by isostatic on Monday February 17 2014, @11:07AM
That thread is locked :(
(Score: 1) by SGT CAPSLOCK on Monday February 17 2014, @11:29AM
It looks like the story submission thing is fixed for some people already, so I guess they went and locked that thread...
For a lot of other people (including me) it's still broken, but there's a ticket for it on the bug tracker:
https://dev.soylentnews.org/tracker/?func=detail&a tid=101&aid=79&group_id=6 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by isostatic on Monday February 17 2014, @12:22PM
Same here, I wanted to post an "ask the gloop" question :(
(Score: 1) by fleg on Monday February 17 2014, @05:59AM
nice work!
(Score: 1) by toygeek on Monday February 17 2014, @06:10AM
Subject says it. Congrats, guys. You rock.
There is no Sig. Okay, maybe a short one. http://miscdotgeek.com
(Score: 1) by turtledawn on Monday February 17 2014, @06:13AM
Happy to be here, looks good even if the red is a little harsh. Best of luck!
(Score: 1) by regift_of_the_gods on Monday February 17 2014, @06:15AM
When I click on "Submit Story" though, I get an info box with "Your recent submissions" which is of course empty. And that's it. Not that I had anything to submit just yet :)
The mix of posted stories is going to be important, that'll be the character of the site and it'll help establish the base of regulars. There's obviously a lot of different directions you could take it.
(Score: 1) by dmc on Monday February 17 2014, @07:51AM
mod parent up, and perhaps post a story on where bugs should go. I psychotically refused to register to the forums because of the anti-'hateful' terms of service, but digressing from that, now that the site is live, it's no longer obvious how to get to the wiki or the forums.
(Score: 2, Informative) by mattie_p on Monday February 17 2014, @10:33AM
I was chatting on the IRC channel (either ##altslashdot @ freenode.net or ##SlashTest, same host) earlier and this was pointed out to me. Bugs should be reported here: http://sylnt.us/bugs [sylnt.us] (Yes, it was reported). Forums are still at http://forums.soylentnews.org/index.php [soylentnews.org]. Wiki seems to be having DNS issues at the moment, but our dev team is taking a well deserved break from things for a few hours. I promise they will get right on it shortly. We are going to work on providing a better interface for all the options for community interaction. Thanks for the feedback!
(Score: 1) by Common Joe on Monday February 17 2014, @06:15AM
I'm going to spam a bunch of my friends via email. Over the course of the day, I'm going to post notices on Facebook, LinkedIn, XING... basically anything social-media wise that will spread the word. :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @07:27AM
Me too! Oh wait; I don't have any friends ☹
(Score: 1) by RobotMonster on Monday February 17 2014, @06:20AM
Congrats for getting this going so quickly!
I'm looking forward to the information density of the "Interactive Discussion System (a.k.a. D2)", (I attempted to turn it on in my preferences, but it won't activate).
Regardless, I'm hoping this site takes off and the unmentionable-other-place is quickly forgotten.
I'm sending psychic ripples through the morphic field to help this along as best I can!
(Score: 2, Informative) by Khyber on Monday February 17 2014, @06:27AM
Certain changes you make will take time to propagate and show up on your end. Give it 20 or 30 minutes.
Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
(Score: 1) by RobotMonster on Monday February 17 2014, @06:30AM
Cool! I figured it wasn't working yet -- 30 minutes is a lot quicker than I was expecting to wait for this :-)
(Score: 1) by Khyber on Monday February 17 2014, @06:51AM
Even updating your AIM nick in your profile will take roughly that amount of time. We might get that done faster in the future.
Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
(Score: 1) by RobotMonster on Monday February 17 2014, @09:30AM
Still no go on D2, after a couple of hours of propagation time.
When I select it through my commenting preferences, and press save, the reloaded page comes back without the preference change.
I'm thinking this is a bug.
Is there somewhere I should log a bug?
While on bugs, I was getting a bunch of "user can't moderate comment" messages when I was moderating, though the moderation mostly seemed to work anyway.
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @12:58PM
D2 was not in SlashCode so it is not implemented. The settings were supposed to be removed from the preferences though. I'll check and see if a bug needs submitted.
D2 like features will be added later.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by RobotMonster on Monday February 17 2014, @04:16PM
Cheers
(Score: 1) by bryan on Monday February 17 2014, @06:22AM
Keep it up.
(Score: 1) by Sir William on Monday February 17 2014, @06:59AM
Thanks for all the hard work everyone. Now I hope people start migrating over.
(Score: 1) by dmc on Monday February 17 2014, @07:08AM
Great Job!
(Score: 1) by rennt on Monday February 17 2014, @07:21AM
Long live SoylentNews!
(Score: 1) by Konomi on Monday February 17 2014, @07:21AM
There always has to be a first post so here it is! Hi all!
(Score: 1) by marberi on Monday February 17 2014, @07:46AM
Reading the first public post feels like being part of history. Now the question is what happens with Slashdot.
(Score: 1) by Popeidol on Monday February 17 2014, @08:22AM
Now they have a choice:
In the latter case, soylentnews would still remain. Every time an annoying feature gets added or useful functionality gets removed, those who want to leave will have somewhere to go. Having more than one player helps to keep everybody honest - and reminds you that you're replaceable.
(Score: 1) by marberi on Monday February 17 2014, @08:49AM
It also depends a lot on what the existing user base does. If only a minority
leaves, then it is their move with the two options you listed. In case more
users just move after the slashcott, then suggesting introducing the new
page can have created permanent damage to their site. It will be interesting
to see how the users responds over the next few days.
(Score: 1) by weilawei on Monday February 17 2014, @09:59AM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @08:45AM
Slashwhat?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @07:47AM
For some reason I'm unable to create one using the Create an Account link!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @08:14AM
try again, I've created a few already :) I had about a 50% success rate with various problems including 'invalid bare'. I was effectively using a fresh browser each time, so I'd recommend re-opening your browser or using a private-browsing tab or whatever (wild ass guess). Or just give the admins a few days to work the bugs out. I'm still itching to start submitting some stories, but that seems to need work as well.
(Score: 1) by clone141166 on Monday February 17 2014, @09:39AM
https://dev.soylentnews.org/tracker/index.php?fun
Keep in mind the devs have been working very hard just to get the site running, so it may take a little while for bugs to be fixed over the next couple of days. Please stand by
Note: Anyone can register to post bugs to the tracker if you find any. But please quickly check the list of existing bugs to prevent reposting of duplicates if you do.
(Score: 1) by dev0 on Monday February 17 2014, @07:59AM
Great work, looking forward to contributing to the site!
(Score: 1) by internetguy on Monday February 17 2014, @08:05AM
Sig: I must be new here.
(Score: 1) by cx on Monday February 17 2014, @08:33AM
On a tangential note, it's am[us|az]ing just how many people protesting bugginess/missing functionality of beta are willing to put up with bugginess/missing functionality of $here for the sake of moving away and/or starting afresh. Guess beta was a convenient excuse for something that was brewing much longer.
Personally, I haven't even seen it; and I guess things that annoyed me on
(Score: 1) by ticho on Monday February 17 2014, @09:24AM
The biggest difference, at least for me, is that any complaints and/or bug reports aren't going to be lost in gray corporate indifference, but dealt with (accepted/fixed or rejected) by community. It feels like coming from Windows world to some nice FOSS project with small, but responsive dev team.
Plus, you can always get involved with the fixing yourself!
(Score: 1) by robingHood on Monday February 17 2014, @08:59AM
Looks like a large part of the old Slashdot community has joined up here... Now awaiting those annoying trolls - because no village is quite complete without its village idiots
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @09:02AM
Yeah, all the low UIDs are here.
(Score: 1) by isostatic on Monday February 17 2014, @11:04AM
Naked, and petrified!
With hot grits!
(Score: 1) by quadrox on Monday February 17 2014, @09:22AM
Thank you, I have eagerly waited for the site to go online, what a pleasant surprise to see it finally happen. Although I don't think I would be able to contribute much time-wise, I am absolutely up to contribute financially through a subscription, and perhaps a submissions once in a while.
(Score: 1) by Wakaranai on Monday February 17 2014, @04:41PM
I'd echo those comments.
Thank you... you've actually done it!
(Score: 1) by pbnjoe on Monday February 17 2014, @09:24AM
Here's hoping to this becoming the next big community. I'm looking forward to it!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @09:53AM
Is there a remedy for failure to stay logged in? I succeed in logging in around 40% of the time and get kicked out on refresh/moderate almost always.
Posting anonymously for obvious reason :)
- cx -
(Score: 1) by elf on Monday February 17 2014, @09:55AM
Big thanks to all those who put this site together in such a short period of time! A massive effort to from zero to here in a week and a bit. I am sure there is still lots to do but with a strong community I'm sure this will be a success!!
(Score: 1) by Optimus Prime on Monday February 17 2014, @10:17AM
(Score: 1) by J_Presper_Eckert on Monday February 17 2014, @10:30AM
It feels so good to be here. I had been fed-up with ye olde 'dot for a long time, but didn't have an acceptable alternative until now. And *what* an alternative this is! The Web 1.0 simplicity you folks have crafted here is light-years behind the S******t Beta. Yes, not ahead of, but behind; back to the essentials.
And it's wonderful.
"Full circle," indeed. A brave new world, all over again: SoylentNews.
(Score: 1) by clone141166 on Monday February 17 2014, @10:38AM
It also displays and runs in lynx text only browser! How many sites can make that claim these days?
Also you got a cool UID number... 360!
(Score: 1) by J_Presper_Eckert on Monday February 17 2014, @10:49AM
Oh and I'm thrilled about my UID. Sometimes ya just get lucky! That's why I put the "full circle" mention in my
"Full circle," indeed. A brave new world, all over again: SoylentNews.
(Score: 1) by mtrycz on Monday February 17 2014, @10:59AM
I love that word. Thumbs up for using it.
In capitalist America, ads view YOU!
(Score: 1) by FacialPaper on Monday February 17 2014, @11:24AM
Mad props to all the great people who made this happen!
(Score: 1) by Olives_and_Feta on Monday February 17 2014, @11:51AM
Great job! My congrats to everyone who sweated blood over the past week in order to make SN a reality. Your vision and determination are hugely appreciated. May numerous slashdotters back at our former home find their way here and behold the sunrise...it's a new day as well as a new era.
On a purely personal level, I registered this nickname out of joy from getting out from under the thumb of all the very obvious and heavy-handed Firehose deletion of anything tagged "olivesandfeta" during the Beta protest. I guess Dice will never figure out that they "can't stop the signal". They might have stuffed the anti-Beta genie back into the bottle, but the mods never realized that it only would have worked if they were naked AND petrified.
Long live SoylentNews; may we all be worthy of it!
Slashdot? Fuhgeddaboutit.
(Score: 1) by tjal on Monday February 17 2014, @12:03PM
nt
(Score: 1) by BradTheGeek on Monday February 17 2014, @12:20PM
wbr1 in forums and on /.
Hi all and lets make this community rock (or whatever your adjective of preference is).
(Score: 1) by Marquis on Monday February 17 2014, @12:23PM
Thank you so much for putting in all the hard work to give us, the community, a worthwhile replacement to that olde' watering hole we knew as /.
Long live /.
love ling Soylent News!
(Score: 1) by cmn32480 on Monday February 17 2014, @12:34PM
All the folks on the Soylent Team put in an amazing amount of work to get this site running (based on what I know from following the forums for the last couple weeks).
I am truly impressed. Keep up the good work.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear" - Norm Peterson
(Score: 1) by LookIntoTheFuture on Monday February 17 2014, @12:34PM
Great job guys! Thank you for all of your hard work! Also, look at how low my UID is! 10 years from now I can strut around like I own the place. lol
(Score: 1) by drnathanfurious on Monday February 17 2014, @01:01PM
Anyone know of a way to turn on the feature from Slashdot where you click on a comment and it auto-loads?
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @01:07PM
This feature was not part of the SlashCode used for this site. Those features are on the list for future enhancements.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by jones_supa on Monday February 17 2014, @01:48PM
(Score: 1) by Popeidol on Monday February 17 2014, @01:53PM
Try setting it to 'nested' instead of 'threaded', and save it as your default view.
(Score: 1) by jones_supa on Monday February 17 2014, @02:35PM
(Score: 1) by Debvgger on Monday February 17 2014, @01:35PM
As some wise Klingon said once: Buck Feta!
(Score: 1) by Iskender on Monday February 17 2014, @01:42PM
I have poured hot grits down my pants.
Thank you.
(Score: 1) by cx on Monday February 17 2014, @01:55PM
No beta. Less javascript than Slashdot. Lame.
(Score: 1) by eravnrekaree on Monday February 17 2014, @02:09PM
Great work on the site. It looks wonderful.
An idea: I think Soylent should bring back the Original slashdot article icons, such as the Bill Gates Borg and the Broken Window and so on, rather than the clipart versions that Slashdot uses.
I hope, and I suggest that it be made the sites mission statement, to remain true and adhere to Slashdot's classic format. As I have said previously, if it ain't broke don't fix it. The traditional slashcode format is perfect. They were talking about trying to add functionality back into the beta at Slashdot, but if they add back the functionality of classic slashdot to the point where its a good site again, basically end up with what they start with, classic slashdot, so why even mess with in the first place? Change for the sake of change has killed slashdot, messing with something that had absolutely nothing wrong with it and was working well.
I suggest Lets keep this the classic slashcode format.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @02:11PM
The "Create Account" page throws up on trying to load jquery (I'm just guessing it's not actually under /images/). so "Check available" doesn't work, and trying to proceed throws the error "An unexpected error has occurred. invalid-bare".
Posting as AC because... yeah.
(Score: 1) by CoolHand on Monday February 17 2014, @02:12PM
When I click on "submit story" link in navigation frame on the left, it just shows me a blank page of stories I've submitted, and no method for submitting a story... Is that right? Is there some other method I'm missing? I've read in several places that story submissions are one big thing that is needed. This might explain why... :)
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 1) by Udo Schmitz on Monday February 17 2014, @03:08PM
I remember reading something about transferring old /. accounts over here. Any official word on that?
And any way to access the wiki?
P.S.: Yay!
(Score: 1) by seandiggity on Monday February 17 2014, @03:21PM
(Score: 1) by Maddog on Monday February 17 2014, @03:35PM
Same here...work got in the way.
Looking forward to the new site (and real news)!
(Score: 1) by johnlenin1 on Monday February 17 2014, @04:33PM
To all involved, thank you so much. I really look forward to SoylentNews succeeding. I had been on Slashdot since 1998 (same nick, id 140093), though it was a bit later when I registered an account. For me, Slashdot was almost a magical place. As so many have pointed out before me, you didn't go there for the articles, which were almost always stale, but for the amazing comments. I went down so many amazing paths from the insightful and interesting comments on those article threads, that my education continued long past my graduation from university.
Honestly, I feel that I owe my professional and technological successes more to what I learned through reading Slashdot than from most of my formal education. So it was with sadness that I watched the debacle with the beta and wondered what was going to come of my beloved site. I haven't posted a lot, but have been a moderator at least weekly for many years.
I'm definitely in the "if classic goes away, so do I" camp. Dice's complete disregard for what makes Slashdot an important and valuable site (to the community, if not Dice's bean counters) convinced me that, even if Dice took all the beta criticism to heart, it was still too risky to rely on Slashdot anymore as a place that values my or provides value to me.
The Slashcott last week was difficult, but seeing SoylentNews live today (and I LOVE the name/concept) has made the wait more than worth it. I look forward to become a part of this new community and helping it to grow.
THANK YOU!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @05:42PM
Former Slashdot(RIP) user here...
I just want to give you guys a heads up about a cool Greasemonkey script which works on Soylent News:
Slashdot Expandable Comment Tree v2
Adds [+][-] symbols next to all comments allowing you to expand and collapse any of them for viewing.4 [userscripts.org]
The script is here-----http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/3818
To modify the script to work on SoylentNews:
Open the script in a text editor, and add this line:
// @include http*://*soylentnews.org/*
Cheers
--AC
(Score: 1) by kogspg on Monday February 17 2014, @07:52PM
I look forward to the coming years.
(Score: 1) by petkill on Monday February 17 2014, @08:45PM
Thanks for all the hard work
Congrats!
(Score: 1) by O3K on Monday February 17 2014, @10:09PM
It's the anti-shiny-new-thing, and yet it is. I love it!
(Score: 1) by r3dakted on Tuesday February 18 2014, @04:04AM
Community FTW! =)
Great stuff.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by bwintx on Tuesday February 18 2014, @03:45PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 19 2014, @03:57AM
Great to be home!
(Score: 1) by Whiteludafan on Thursday February 20 2014, @03:03AM
It would be nice to see an article summary in my RSS reader, rather than having to click over based solely on a title. Please consider this change. Thanks!
(Score: 1) by hitsuji on Thursday February 20 2014, @10:57AM
It really might.
A major claim on my internet time is The Guardian newspaper website. They have a beta "reactive" web site which is truly hideous on a desktop browser. Lord knows what I will do for news when they make it default.
I was always pretty content with email and usenet TBH. The WWW was a cute novelty until animated GIFs started appearing everywhere.
Get off my lawn!