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LaminatorX
on Monday February 17 2014, @02:47PM
from the release-early-release-often dept.
from the release-early-release-often dept.
Welcome to the new site everyone. As penance for my embarrassing triple posting earlier, I have been asked by the admins to post a link to our lovely bug tracker, which can be found at http://sylnt.us/bugs. If you notice any odd behavior around the site, please don't hesitate to submit a notice. Thank you, everyone.
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End of Day 1: Systems Update 149 comments
So, as I write this, day one has officially come to an end. I'm still somewhat in shock over it. Last night when I was editing the database to change over hostnames and such, I was thinking, man, it would be great if we got 100 regular users by tomorrow. Turns out I was wrong. By a factor of ten. Holy cow, people. I'm still in a state of disbelief, partially due to the epic turnout, but also because our very modest server hardware hasn't soiled itself from the influx (the numbers are, well, "impressive" is a way to put it). Anyway, I wanted to do a bit of a writeup of where we stand now, what works, and what doesn't. Check it out (and some raw numbers) after the break! Warning, it is a bit lengthy.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by tjal on Monday February 17 2014, @03:59PM
when going to: https://dev.soylentnews.org/tracker/?func=add&grou p_id=6&atid=101 [soylentnews.org]
quote:
The site's security certificate is not trusted!
You attempted to reach dev.soylentnews.org, but the server presented a certificate issued by an entity that is not trusted by your computer's operating system. This may mean that the server has generated its own security credentials, which Chrome cannot rely on for identity information, or an attacker may be trying to intercept your communications.
You should not proceed, especially if you have never seen this warning before for this site.
(Score: 1) by CoolHand on Monday February 17 2014, @04:03PM
not a HUGE deal, but I can't get to the site from our work network as our Security team blocks sites with self-signed certs..
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 1) by lhsi on Monday February 17 2014, @04:06PM
I was also just about to report the untrusted certificate thing.
If I am logged in (on Chrome) and go to edit my user info (http://soylentnews.org/my/misc for example), the white box in the middle under the title in red obscures the content of the white box under the grey heading with my username and user id. I can see that there is something there, but I don't know what
(Score: 1) by lhsi on Tuesday February 18 2014, @09:58AM
The white box obscuring issue appears to have been fixed.
(Score: 1) by Random2 on Monday February 17 2014, @04:19PM
I actually can't access it at all because the company proxy blocks self-signed certificates, so they definitely might want to look into it.
As a side note, I was looking to report some needed text updates in the preferences section:
Advertising ?
Can I advertise on Slashdot, A banner ad is distorting my browser!, Advertise.
Supporters ?
SourceForge.net, ThinkGeek, Freshmeat, Fossfor.us.
If only I registered 3 users earlier....
(Score: 1) by Random2 on Monday February 17 2014, @04:35PM
Also under the Configuring Comments section; it might be a good idea to run a search for 'Slashdot' across the entire code.
If only I registered 3 users earlier....
(Score: 2, Informative) by mrcoolbp on Monday February 17 2014, @04:32PM
They are working on getting an SSL Cert.
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 1) by clone141166 on Monday February 17 2014, @04:02PM
And please remember to check for duplicates before posting new bugs. Many thanks!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @04:07PM
So we know who to blame. :)
(Score: 1) by LaminatorX on Monday February 17 2014, @04:25PM
O,h it's me, right here. I am listed in the author in the story's metadeta, but for whatever reason my byline is not being displayed. I've opened a bug.
(Score: 1) by Cactus on Monday February 17 2014, @04:52PM
Mine were doing this too for a while. mattie_p had to sign his name to get something in the field. Cleared up after a while though.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by danomac on Monday February 17 2014, @11:04PM
I can't even get to the point where I can even submit a bug. Is there a bug tracker for the bug tracker?
It got to the point where it supposedly sent me a confirmation email. I went back in history and me email is correct, but I still haven't received anything.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2014, @02:12AM
Also, please remember to check for duplicates before posting new bugs. Many thanks!
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anne Nonymous on Monday February 17 2014, @04:07PM
<stooges>Woop, woop, woop! Eh, wiseguy, eh?</stooges>
(Score: 1) by DarkMorph on Monday February 17 2014, @04:07PM
This story as well as the previous one do not display the author. The text simply says "posted by on" whereas previous posts show Dopefish's name correctly, for instance.
(Score: 3, Informative) by LaminatorX on Monday February 17 2014, @04:09PM
...whatever you did probably worked, despite the warning. Double check before trying whatever it was again. That's how I repeat-posted earlier today.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by slartibartfastatp on Monday February 17 2014, @04:11PM
Right now, I have an user on the wiki and one here. Now it looks like the bug tracker has another user database. LDAP, Database integration anyone?
(Score: 1) by WizardFusion on Monday February 17 2014, @04:15PM
I can't see a comment button on the page, I have to use "Reply To This"
Also, I have to click the Login link every time I visit the site.
(Score: 1) by mrcoolbp on Monday February 17 2014, @07:33PM
To the right of the threshold options there is a button "reply" to post a new comment. As in reply to this submission. I heard this was old slashdot formatting, but I'd like to see that changed to "post new comment" or something.
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @08:53PM
I submitted a bug/feature request on this a few days ago.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by lhsi on Tuesday February 18 2014, @10:00AM
Thanks, I had been looking for that yesterday and didn't find it...
(Score: 2, Funny) by everdred on Monday February 17 2014, @04:13PM
Only if you promise not to fax me too many times a day.
(Score: 1) by GeminiDomino on Monday February 17 2014, @04:32PM
But I can't seem to get my login verified. Click the link, login, and "You've been redirected to this login page because you have tried accessing a page that was not available to you as an anonymous user." Try to login from that page, and
"Invalid Password Or User Name
Your account is currently pending your email confirmation.
Visiting the link sent to you in this email will activate your account.
If you need this email resent, please click below and a confirmation email will be sent to the email address you provided in registration.[Resend Confirmation Email]"
Resending the confirmation email just starts the process over again.
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 1) by LaminatorX on Monday February 17 2014, @04:47PM
Be sure to check your spam folder. Gmail dropped mine there.
(Which on Gmail is distinct from your "Junk" folder. Clear as mud.)
(Score: 1) by GeminiDomino on Monday February 17 2014, @04:50PM
No, I *got* the verification message (three times). It just doesn't want to let me login when I open the link.
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 1) by tibman on Tuesday February 18 2014, @12:07AM
Not sure if confused ?
SN won't survive on lurkers alone. Write comments.
(Score: 1) by GeminiDomino on Tuesday February 18 2014, @01:12AM
It's rather simple. When you create an account, it sends a hashed link to verify the email address. Bog standard verification process for the last two decades. You click the link and have to put in your username/password. I do that, it doesn't work.
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 1) by tibman on Tuesday February 18 2014, @03:52AM
You appear to already be logged in? My email link was just the SN login page with the password embedded in the URL. There was no verification other than them pre-generating a password and emailing it. That link will probably auto-login and let you change the password to something else.
SN won't survive on lurkers alone. Write comments.
(Score: 1) by GeminiDomino on Tuesday February 18 2014, @01:45PM
I'm talking about on the bug tracker.
Also, a suggestion: how about loosening or removing the "it's been X minutes since you last successfully posted a comment" for logged in users while there's only a few hundred of us?
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 1) by Open4D on Tuesday February 18 2014, @04:21PM
Me too.
Gmail marked the email as spam. (Anything you can do about that guys? Sender Policy Framework?)
But that's not a big problem. I clicked the link in the email and got to a screen that said "Verify" and "In order to complete your registration, login now. Your account will then be activated for normal logins."
But trying to log in gives me those same contradictory "Invalid Password Or User Name" and "Your account is currently pending your email confirmation ... " messages as GeminiDomino got.
(Score: 1) by Open4D on Tuesday February 18 2014, @04:54PM
GeminiDomino, did you use capital letters in your username for dev.soylentnews.org?
I did. I then tried signing up a 2nd time with new details, and this time noticed and obeyed the bit in brackets:
And this time I didn't get the problem.
(Score: 1) by GeminiDomino on Tuesday February 18 2014, @06:33PM
That was it, right on the head.
Thanks!
"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of our culture"
(Score: 1) by Open4D on Tuesday February 18 2014, @06:54PM
Or it could just be "2nd time lucky" for both of us. Anyway, I'll try to look into raising it as a bug.
(Score: 2, Informative) by everdred on Monday February 17 2014, @04:37PM
Since the system is strict about email confirmation before allowing your initial login, remember to check your spam folders. (YMMV, but Gmail filtered mine as such.)
(Score: 1) by Quartz on Monday February 17 2014, @05:13PM
Is there an RSS feed for the main page? The docs for the code indicate RSS support, but I can't find a link and just pasting "?from=rss" to the main url did nothing.
(Score: 1) by bart9h on Monday February 17 2014, @05:21PM
And *please* add a feed for new polls.
(Score: 1) by pbnjoe on Monday February 17 2014, @06:44PM
Big orange RSS button at the bottom of every page :)
http://soylentnews.org/index.rss [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by Jaruzel on Monday February 17 2014, @06:51PM
Headlines only. Is there one with the TFAs also? (ala. 'classic' /.)
Thankee Kindly.
-Jar
This is my opinion, there are many others, but this one is mine.
(Score: 2, Informative) by pbnjoe on Monday February 17 2014, @07:36PM
Not as of yet. There is talk of it being changed to something like that (sure it will be relatively soon). We are in the infancy days of this site, after all :)
(Score: 1) by Quartz on Wednesday February 19 2014, @12:56AM
Hah, missed it cause the image does not respond to searches by "rss" on firefox. My bad regardless.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bart9h on Monday February 17 2014, @05:28PM
Saw people complaining on /. about that.
It happened to me too.
PS: I miss the ability to collapse threads.
(Score: 1) by Jaruzel on Monday February 17 2014, @06:46PM
I had the 'invalid bare' thing when trying to registered, but below it is another 'Create Account' - Being a risky kid of guy, I threw caution to the wind and clicked it. My account then got created without issue. :)
Also, it might be worth disabling the Availability Check button seeing as like my goggles, it does nothing! ...
-Jar.
This is my opinion, there are many others, but this one is mine.
(Score: 1) by Peazy on Monday February 17 2014, @07:06PM
This happened to me, and just for kicks I tried a different email address--it worked instantly. The 2nd email address that worked was about half the length of the "invalid" one--maybe a bug around the length?
(Score: 1) by isaac on Monday February 17 2014, @07:18PM
Funny, but I had to use a *longer* email address when registering. My first attempt got the 'invalid-bare' error, presumably because of some sloppy email address validation. (My normal address is 8 characters long including the @ sign, admittedly short but completely RFC-compliant.)
(Score: 1) by Setras on Monday February 17 2014, @07:20PM
Yeah, I encoutered that one too. Seems the form on the "Create Account" page ( http://soylentnews.org/my/newuser [soylentnews.org] ) is a bit malformed. If you change
to
things work just fine.
(Score: 1) by FatPhil on Monday February 17 2014, @08:01PM
From: https://dev.soylentnews.org/tracker/index.php?func =detail&aid=72&group_id=6&atid=102 [soylentnews.org]
Solution = "try again"
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 1) by danomac on Monday February 17 2014, @11:10PM
I miss this too, it's a bit of a pain trying to view all comments. I usually browse at -1.
(Score: 1) by gallondr00nk on Monday February 17 2014, @05:40PM
Comments seem to be listed oldest first on your ~$USER page. I suppose it's a matter of preference, but given a year or two of comments I think it'd be more useful to have the option to display them with the newest first.
(Score: 1) by gallondr00nk on Monday February 17 2014, @05:45PM
Actually, having made a third comment, it seems it isn't organised at all. My mistake.
(Score: 1) by mrcoolbp on Monday February 17 2014, @07:50PM
Check your comments setting, you can display by oldest first but grouped by thread (which I believe is default)
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 1) by Spook brat on Monday February 17 2014, @05:41PM
This may be a feature from a semi-recent redesign, but it would be nice to not leave the page to read a lower-ranked comment. Loading the comment in place on the page was a fun feature on that old news site.
Workaround already in place - I remember using tabbed browsing in the past to keep track of my place in the discussion before, and I can go back to that for now.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by beardedchimp on Monday February 17 2014, @05:52PM
You can set your comments to 'nested' as opposed to threaded to list all the comments. I do agree though having that small bit of ajax that loads in new comments is too useful to leave out.
(Score: 1) by mrcoolbp on Monday February 17 2014, @07:31PM
+1 for nested! This works well for now.
I believe that on-click expanding of below-threshold comments is on the to-do list folks.
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @08:28PM
Yeah but it sucks when you want to open a comment link in a new tab. If the devs here can do it without breaking the browser, I won't feel like punching a wall on the odd occasion I'm using another machine and the browser has scripting enabled.
(Score: 1) by Papas Fritas on Monday February 17 2014, @05:52PM
What am I doing wrong?
Here's the story I would like to submit:
South Korean Banks Punished for ID Theft
Michael Kitchen writes at Marketwatch that when companies in the US are hacked for customer information they often seem to react to such thefts with little more than a sigh and a shrug - if they even report it at all. But in South Korea, they don't mess around with ID theft. Korea's financial-services regulator announced Sunday that three firms which suffered the theft of consumers' data last year would be barred from issuing any new credit cards or extending any loans for three months [marketwatch.com]. In addition the executives at the companies involved showed their contrition by going before television cameras and making deep bows and personal apologies. Some executives reportedly resigned over the incident, even though the alleged ID thieves were caught and arrested. The South Korean Financial Supervisory Commission (FSC) said the companies had "neglected their legal duties of preventing any leakage of customer information." [bbc.co.uk]
Best Regards,
Papas Fritas
(Score: 1) by beardedchimp on Monday February 17 2014, @05:55PM
http://soylentnews.org/about.shtml [soylentnews.org] and http://soylentnews.org/faq.shtml [soylentnews.org] are aimed at using slashcode. The faq should be removed and the about page updated with a little blurb to explain why soylent news has been created.
(Score: 1) by mhajicek on Monday February 17 2014, @06:00PM
Having trouble figuring how to submit a bug report on dev.soylentnews.org; looks like we have to join a project?
Anyway, I can't get to a page to submit a story, all I can get is "Here are your recent submissions to SoylentNews, and their status within the system:"
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @06:07PM
Is there any chance the site admins can change the default font to VERDANA ?
Compared to the current default (ARIAL), reading masses of text in VERDANA is much easier on the eyes and small details have better definition.
Thanks for your consideration.
(Score: 1) by jones_supa on Monday February 17 2014, @06:14PM
(Score: 1) by Jaruzel on Monday February 17 2014, @06:53PM
I also reckon it's about 2px too big. We're not all blind y'know...
-Jar
This is my opinion, there are many others, but this one is mine.
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @07:08PM
The current CSS is a mess and the devs are aware, It needs a total rewrite to include a barebones reset. I think the will probably be done with the application of new site design that the art people are working on. I have some changes to the comments.css that need to be applied, but the debs are busy with other more pressing issues now, including sleep for some :)
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by Jaruzel on Monday February 17 2014, @07:24PM
Kinda figured as much. :) Nothing I say should ever be taken as a direct request, I just tend to think with my mouth open... Still I am surprised that the slashcode has such large text in the first place... Designed for smaller monitors maybe (but then the DPI used to be quite low, so surely we'd be seeing tiny text, not larger...)
-Jar.
This is my opinion, there are many others, but this one is mine.
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @07:29PM
No the css was developed when 13pt was the default for most browsers not the 16pt it is now. So the css never had the default font size set. As we see it now we get the larger fonts.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 2, Insightful) by jones_supa on Monday February 17 2014, @06:17PM
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @08:09PM
Enhancement submitted.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @06:23PM
a) Can't check availability without javascript.
b) Can't register anyway, ignoring the check availability option
"""
An unexpected error has occurred.
invalid-bare
"""
If you plan to be unusable without JavaScript, you're worse than slashdot.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @06:31PM
Update: Can't check availability even with JavaScript.
Given a known taken nick, clicking the button does nothing.
Given a totally random string of alphanumerics, clicking the button does nothing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @06:43PM
I much prefer the "nested" comment style and find myself clicking it for every story. My vote is to make this the default. Not a bug, just a feature request. I know I can create a login then login with (yet another) login every time I want to view comments, but I won't do that; defaults are important. Thanks for a great site, already commenting here more often than I have at that other site in the past 15 years!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 17 2014, @06:55PM
Orrrr y'know, you could create an account, and then be able to click on the little 'Save' checkbox :).
Posting as AC, for the irony.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by mmcmonster on Monday February 17 2014, @07:29PM
...but something to consider:
Slow down! You have enough articles going onto the home page that none of them are getting a lot of traction.
Maybe (for now) having a limit of 1 article every 2-4 hours, at least for a day or two, to give time for people
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Random2 on Monday February 17 2014, @07:34PM
I suspect having the 'number of comments' field updating more frequently would also help; a large part of what drew me into a story on /. was the number of comments in it. There're several stories on the front page that have many more comments in them than the counter implies and that might be causing people to 'wait for more'.
If only I registered 3 users earlier....
(Score: 1) by mrcoolbp on Monday February 17 2014, @07:54PM
There is a bug regarding the # comments displayed on main. It's been kinda intermittent
(Score:1^½, Radical)
(Score: 1) by cwix on Monday February 17 2014, @08:05PM
Thanks for all the hard work everyone! I did see a few bugs but they have already been addressed in the other comments.
(Score: 1) by forsythe on Monday February 17 2014, @08:16PM
It appears that most forms (notably the password-change dialog) truncate the password to 20 characters, but the login form doesn't perform this truncation. This lead me to a few frustrating password resets.
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @09:01PM
Known Bug. In the queue.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by forsythe on Monday February 17 2014, @09:49PM
Good to know. In my defense, the other known issue with the cert on the tracker prevented me from seeing it at the time.
(Score: 1) by Udo Schmitz on Monday February 17 2014, @08:44PM
(Score: 1) by Udo Schmitz on Monday February 17 2014, @08:46PM
Arghl ... so. it's not only the preview :)
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @09:06PM
Unicode was just added yesterday. We sill have many bugs. I have started a bug that will collect all of these issues. Your post is the first on the list.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by Udo Schmitz on Monday February 17 2014, @09:23PM
In that case I should add: Mac OS X 10.9.1, Safari 7.0.1, german system settings, german keyboard. If you want me to test with my system set to something else let me know.
(Score: 1) by Keldrin on Monday February 17 2014, @09:22PM
* Submit Story (from the left-hand column): http://soylentnews.org/submit.pl [soylentnews.org]
- This link does not allow a story to be submitted. It shows 'Your recent submissions' only. Perhaps it should be renamed.
* Help and Preferences: http://soylentnews.org/help [soylentnews.org]
- Links on this page are 404'd
- The "About Slashdot" should be reworded
- "Can I advertise on Slashdot" should be changed
- The Supporters section should be updated if the ones listed are slashdot's
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @10:52PM
Both are know bugs and are in the queue.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by FalleStar on Monday February 17 2014, @10:20PM
It looks like the references to external JavaScript files on the Login & Create Account pages are broken.
When I look at the page in FireBug I see that all of the src attributes are set to look at "//soylentnews.org/images/" which I'm guessing isn't correct.
Oh and the logins are using regular HTTP instead of HTTPS, I don't think I have to say why that's a bad idea.
(Score: 1) by paulej72 on Monday February 17 2014, @10:55PM
First bug submitted. Second is a known issue and is being currently worked on. We have the new ssl cert, just awaiting the correct system guy to install it.
Team Leader for SN Development
(Score: 1) by EETech1 on Monday February 17 2014, @11:44PM
soylentnews.org/help
Still contains info on some sliced and diced other news site...
(Score: 1) by snailboat on Tuesday February 18 2014, @02:48AM
I wanted to use a password longer than 20 characters, but I was unable to do so.
(Score: 1) by snailboat on Tuesday February 18 2014, @02:58AM
Speaking of passwords, it seems like ours are sent in the clear. I saw that it was HTTP when I logged in, but I assumed there was some client-side hashing going on in Javascript. To verify this, I logged out and logged in a second time with LiveHTTPHeaders open. Unfortunately, I was able to see my own password URL-encoded in the POST data.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2014, @05:07AM
(posting AC as I haven't registered yet)
On that other slashcode website, all comments are expanded.
Here I see the main post of a thread and each of the sub-comments appear as hyperlinks underneath.
if I register and login, can this setting be changed? why is it the default?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2014, @05:10AM
Ah, sorry.
I see from earlier comments, one just needs to select 'nested'.
(Score: 2, Informative) by lhsi on Tuesday February 18 2014, @10:17AM
If I go to my preferences and click the radio button for the D2 system, then save changes, it reverts back to the first radio button.
(Score: 1) by scruffybeard on Tuesday February 18 2014, @01:22PM
Same for me. That setting is not saved when I change it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 18 2014, @05:08PM
I've noticed my company's firewall has selectively blocked two stories on the site for "games".
Gabe Newell Responds to DNS Snooping Allegationss html [soylentnews.org]
http://soylentnews.org/articles/14/02/18/0336229.
Quick Notes From Behind The Sceness html [soylentnews.org]
http://soylentnews.org/articles/14/02/17/2321218.
Whichever method is being used to tag pages is triggering my company's blocking redirect page. I didn't have this problem on slashdot, even though the sources themselves were frequently blocked on videogame stories.
So my question is, do these stories have to be tagged as such? If the gaming ones still are, I can cope, but I would still like to see the Behind the Scenes comments and other site development stories.
Also, if you could change the story headlines on the main page into links to the story+comments, that'd be great.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 20 2014, @09:41AM
For a lack of a better place, I'll dump my thoughts here. I'd love the editors do unit conversions. I mean two furlongs a fortnight might be meaningful for somebody but please do include metric measurements as well.
The GNU units program comes very handy (even if the syntax is sometimes non-trivial to figure out). https://www.gnu.org/software/units/units.html [gnu.org] On Debian derivatives the package name is "units".