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posted by NCommander on Monday February 24 2014, @04:06AM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the notes-from-underground dept.
Well, we've survived our first week as a functional website, and have yet to go belly up because of it. The speed and growth of our community is staggering to say the least, and we are working hard to get this site fully operational. I'm pleased to announce that a development VM is now available for public consumption, and if you're interested in site development, one should join us in #dev on irc.soylentnews.org. Beyond that though, I've got a few points to address on and updated statistics to share ...
First things first. I've heard you loud and clear on the topic of moderation, and I've been reading the feedback on my journal entries about that. Right now, I plan to have an "Ask Soylent" article addressing moderation on the main page about a week from now. I'm waiting to get a real solid base of real work numbers to work from so people can discuss it in a rational matter. Please remember what we have now was a temporary hack to make moderation work, and it has always been intended to be reworked since its initial implementation. Keep a look out for that post and we can get that dialogue fully open and in both directions.

Secondly, as I said above, the dev VM is now publicly available. With this new development, anyone welcome to come by #dev, and join the dev team. Right now, very little exists as "hard documentation", so that's my next TODO. Until then, drop by chat to get access to knowledgeable gurus. During creation of the VM, I took detailed notes of how to go from nothing to working slashsite, which will form the basis of our INSTALL doc, and allow for those to build VMs from scratch. Due to stupidity, this initial VM requires a 64-bit capable processor; future VMs will be i386 compatible. The VM itself is running Ubuntu 12.04.4, and is a setup similar to the current production machines (sans varnish). If you want to dive in, fire up your BitTorrent app, and grab the torrent. Thanks to stderr for setting up the tracker and hosting the 980 MiB file. For those downloading the image, the SHA1 of the OVA file is bbafa7316bd28f23d0a5b386fca85429a2575db8. These files can be used with VirtualBox (use File -> Import Appliance to install it).

Finally, I wanted to close off with our stats from midnight last night to give you an idea of how much we've grown.

SoylentNews Stats for 2014-02-22

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  1944 14/02/17/1745207 mattie_p   What "News for Nerds" Sites Sh
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  1840 14/02/19/1546248 mattie_p   Interview: Ask SoylentNews Sta
  1804 14/02/18/0724232 NCommander End of Day 1: Systems Update
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  1168 14/02/12/0715245 NCommander Welcome to SoylentNews!
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   960 14/02/16/1331209 NCommander Massive Site Progress - Status
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   888 14/02/16/2220240 NCommander Announcing UTF-8 Support on So
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   869 14/02/18/0336229 Dopefish   Gabe Newell Responds to DNS Sn
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SF.net group 4421:
	Bugs: 790 open; 4607 total
	Feature Requests: 160 open; 623 total
	Patches: 10 open; 112 total

Until the next time, this is NCommander, signing off ...

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"I'm rather excited to get going with Soylent and to watch it grow. Nay, help it grow. I have lurked in /. for more than a decade (note: I'm not the same username over there, I know, how sneaky), and always wished I could have been involved with the beginning. So this is a great opportunity, and I joined as soon as I saw what Soylent was doing. Not to mention the fact that I felt right at home with the old style. It's very comfortable.

So here's a question for everyone. Are we going to be the same as slashdot? A clone that focuses as entirely as possible on tech related news? Or will we branch out to other topics? I'm interested to see either way. I posted a comment to this effect in one of our two existing polls, and it may be a community-wide assumption, but I do think it merits a discussion."

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Papas Fritas writes:

"There's an interesting read today by John Paul Titlow at FastCoLabs about DuckDuckGo, a search engine launched in 2008 that is now doing 4 million search queries per day and growing 200-500% annually. DuckDuckGo's secret weapon is hardcore privacy. When you do a search from DuckDuckGo's website or one of its mobile apps, it doesn't know who you are. There are no user accounts. Your IP address isn't logged by default. The site doesn't use search cookies to keep track of what you do over time or where else you go online.

'If you look at the logs of people's search sessions, they're the most personal thing on the Internet,' says founder Gabriel Weinberg. 'Unlike Facebook, where you choose what to post, with search you're typing in medical and financial problems and all sorts of other things. You're not thinking about the privacy implications of your search history.' DuckDuckGo's no-holds-barred approach to privacy gives the search engine a unique selling point as Google gobbles up more private user data. 'It was extreme at the time,' says Weinberg. 'And it still may be considered extreme by some people, but I think it's becoming less extreme nowadays. In the last year, it's become obvious why people don't want to be tracked.'"

ISPs Throttling NetFlix Traffic 65 comments

dave562 writes: "There was an interesting article posted on Zero Hedge lately on the throttling of Netflix.

'For years, the Netflix streaming business has been growing like a parasite, happy to piggyback on established broadband infrastructures, where the broadband companies themselves have becomes competitors to Netflix for both distribution and content. Until now. Emboldened by the recent Net Neutrality ruling, which has put bandwidth hogs like Netflix which at last check was responsible for over 30% of all downstream US internet traffic, broadband providers are finally making their move, and in a preliminary salvo whose ultimate compromise will be NFLX paying lots of money, have started to throttle Netflix traffic. The WSJ reports (Paywall) that the war between the broadband-ers and the video streaming company has finally emerged from the "cold" phase and is fully hot.'"

Being hacked while writing The Snowden Files. 84 comments

fleg writes:

"The Guardian is reporting that while the author of The Snowden Files was writing it, paragraphs started self-deleting."

From the article:

By September the book was going well - 30,000 words done. A Christmas deadline loomed. I was writing a chapter on the NSA's close, and largely hidden, relationship with Silicon Valley. I wrote that Snowden's revelations had damaged US tech companies and their bottom line. Something odd happened. The paragraph I had just written began to self-delete. The cursor moved rapidly from the left, gobbling text. I watched my words vanish. When I tried to close my OpenOffice file the keyboard began flashing and bleeping.

[ED Note: Some of author's claims are of course unverifiable, but his insiders view of the early days of the story are interesting even so.]

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by unitron on Monday February 24 2014, @04:12AM

    by unitron (70) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:12AM (#5520) Journal

    ...to every last sleep-deprived SOB involved (and to their families for putting up with them).

    --
    something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @04:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @04:13AM (#5522)

    fix it.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mattie_p on Monday February 24 2014, @04:22AM

      by mattie_p (13) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:22AM (#5529) Journal

      I normally don't respond to this sort of thing, but I'm interested to hear why you think it is lame, and yet don't have the inclination to spell out what we can do to make it better. I mean, we have plenty [soylentnews.org] of [twitter.com] venues [soylentnews.org] for you to contribute [soylentnews.org] meaningfully [sylnt.us]. What do you think we need to be doing better?

      I welcome constructive criticism at any time. Please feel free to do so. Thanks for reading! ~mattie_p

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by efitton on Monday February 24 2014, @04:48AM

        by efitton (1077) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:48AM (#5543) Homepage

        I am sure it is just a dice employee.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by tempest on Monday February 24 2014, @03:11PM

        by tempest (3050) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:11PM (#5852)

        Since I can't seem to find a way to post at the top level, I guess I'll drop this here. Can we keep politics off this site? I know everyone just loves arguing in the usual political circle jerk that solves nothing, but I feel that's one of the big things that turned me off Slashdot. There are plenty of other sites for that crap.

        • (Score: 1) by Landon on Monday February 24 2014, @03:22PM

          by Landon (45) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:22PM (#5868) Journal

          It's the "Reply" button next to the comment filter (unfortunately, it was like this in old Slashdot too, ugh)

          • (Score: 1) by tempest on Monday February 24 2014, @03:31PM

            by tempest (3050) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:31PM (#5877)

            Ha, feel kinda dumb now. I swear I recall there being a text box underneath the article.

            • (Score: 2, Funny) by sglane on Monday February 24 2014, @07:20PM

              by sglane (3133) on Monday February 24 2014, @07:20PM (#6077)

              You must be new here.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Kilo110 on Monday February 24 2014, @04:18AM

    by Kilo110 (2853) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:18AM (#5525)

    I'm very excited about this new site. Please keep up the good work. You will continue to have my support and activity!

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by evilviper on Monday February 24 2014, @04:20AM

    by evilviper (1760) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:20AM (#5527) Homepage Journal

    I know it's scheduled for next week, but I've gotta ask...

    What's with this whole "You have 10 mod points (and 5 minutes to use them)" thing? Is it just me (perhaps a time-zone bug or similar) that's seeing the mod points available, and then gone by the next page load/refresh?

    I know plenty of comments have been modded up, so *somebody* out there apparently has time enough to spend some of their mod points, but I sure don't.

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    • (Score: 1) by yellowantphil on Monday February 24 2014, @04:27AM

      by yellowantphil (2125) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:27AM (#5533) Homepage

      The one time I got mod points, they stayed for at least 20 minutes after I saw that I had them, but I wasn't timing it.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by stderr on Monday February 24 2014, @04:58AM

      by stderr (11) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:58AM (#5550) Journal

      Mod points expires after 4 hours. That will most likely change later, when the site has some more users.

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      • (Score: 1) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @05:09AM

        by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:09AM (#5559)

        Im not sure. I had modpoints, applied several, moved to another article and they disappeared. Sure I could have passed the 4 hour threshold, but..

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by ls671 on Monday February 24 2014, @06:41AM

          by ls671 (891) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @06:41AM (#5612) Homepage

          Soylent news is people. People come and go. Thus, modpoints come and go ;-)

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        • (Score: 5, Informative) by NCommander on Monday February 24 2014, @10:06AM

          by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <mcasadevall@soylentnews.org> on Monday February 24 2014, @10:06AM (#5713) Homepage Journal

          Modpoints are granted to any eligible user who is logged in and active within 5 minutes (the script runs every five minutes)

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Jerry Smith on Monday February 24 2014, @06:58AM

      by Jerry Smith (379) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:58AM (#5622) Journal

      What's with this whole "You have 10 mod points (and 5 minutes to use them)" thing? Is it just me (perhaps a time-zone bug or similar) that's seeing the mod points available, and then gone by the next page load/refresh?

      Yeah, at first I found it a tad annoying as well, but I managed to also deal them away in the first articles, so yes there is a short timespan but there's also a possibility to give them to a lot of articles. For now, that is. I expect that to change in the near future.
      Articles will be archived, there will be more recent articles, the moderation process will have stabilised, and it's at least chugging along just fine now. It will be tweaked and tuned.

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by inasity_rules on Monday February 24 2014, @08:15AM

      by inasity_rules (147) on Monday February 24 2014, @08:15AM (#5672)

      They came a little often for me as well - I ended up not using them because I kind felt, initially at least commenting was more valuable to the site than moderating. Also, there was often not much to moderate up that hadn't already been moderated. Not that I comment much, but the frequency on slashdot was much better - it allowed me to contribute and moderate.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by weeds on Monday February 24 2014, @03:06PM

      by weeds (611) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:06PM (#5847) Journal

      I seem to be getting mod points and having time to use them. I am logged in all day and post a few times a week. If I was going to evaluate what was going on with mod points (I KNOW it's a short term solution) I would say there are too many. By the time I get to any comments to mod, there have been plenty of mod points already applied.

      What's you have done here is fantastic!

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by hemocyanin on Monday February 24 2014, @04:24AM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:24AM (#5531) Journal

                                Yesterday   | 2 days ago | 3 days ago
        Avg Hits Per Article:         4874.5|      4316.4|      2908.0
    Avg Comments Per Article:           21.9|        36.3|        52.9

    I noticed that comments were down over the weekend and wondered if it is just because people aren't "working." Maybe when people go back to the office on Monday, comments will pick up. ;-)

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by efitton on Monday February 24 2014, @04:35AM

      by efitton (1077) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:35AM (#5537) Homepage

      I was also wondering if there might be a tail. People are still posting comments on stories a day or two old, extending the conversation. The lower comments counts on today's articles might still be headed up.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by ls671 on Monday February 24 2014, @06:45AM

        by ls671 (891) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @06:45AM (#5615) Homepage

        "People are still posting comments on stories a day or two old"

        Yep definitely an interesting trend. Different than the ephemeral trend on our counterpart where you have to "post early".

        I find it refreshing.

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        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by TWiTfan on Monday February 24 2014, @01:45PM

          by TWiTfan (2428) on Monday February 24 2014, @01:45PM (#5791)

          Different than the ephemeral trend on our counterpart where you have to "post early".

          If you think it's bad over there now, just wait until they make the beta mandatory, with a system that makes it almost impossible to follow conversations for more than a day.

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        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Techwolf on Monday February 24 2014, @03:05PM

          by Techwolf (87) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:05PM (#5846)

          I like this. I usually don't have time to sit on the site 24/7 and usually end up reading day old stories. I hope they can find more good aritcials and slow down the posting. I prefer them spread out the day and not all at once. Putting up 30-40 a day is way too much, by the time everyone had a chance to read it, it falls off the page.

        • (Score: 1) by Abominous Salad on Monday February 24 2014, @03:42PM

          by Abominous Salad (3074) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:42PM (#5885)

          I never felt obliged to be in on the cool kid rush. Admittedly it was fairly rare to get a reply.

        • (Score: 1) by mindriot on Monday February 24 2014, @10:14PM

          by mindriot (928) on Monday February 24 2014, @10:14PM (#6240)
          I like that trend as well, and I think it would benefit from moderators occasionally looking at older stories as well, to moderate late comments!
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    • (Score: 1) by DECbot on Monday February 24 2014, @05:09PM

      by DECbot (832) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:09PM (#5965) Journal

      For whatever reason, I wasn't seeing new stories on Sunday. I blame Comcast's local cache. They must not have had their technician in during the weekend to press the 'refresh internet cache' button.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by yellowantphil on Monday February 24 2014, @04:31AM

    by yellowantphil (2125) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:31AM (#5535) Homepage

    Adding up the top referrers, 40% of the hits are from Slashdot (ignoring linode.com). I guess that Dice hasn't decided to crack down on links to Soylent News, not that I particularly expected them to.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by linsane on Monday February 24 2014, @01:17PM

      by linsane (633) on Monday February 24 2014, @01:17PM (#5776)

      The acid test will surely be when news sources identify SN as a volume referrer - this would lend weight to ensuring that links in articles are through to original sources and specialist publications rather than the BBCs of this world. Just a thought

    • (Score: 1) by Reziac on Tuesday February 25 2014, @02:32AM

      by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @02:32AM (#6341) Homepage

      I saw the link in someone's sig, and since Fuck Beta, here I am. Slashdotter since 1998 with over 15,000 comments... would be pleased to see even more longevity here.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @04:54AM

    by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:54AM (#5547)

    I just got a google+ notification that a Chris Carpenter ( https://plus.google.com/u/0/107363276778018161098/ posts [google.com] )has followed me. I do not know this individual, but when I checked ChrisCarpenter's public posts, he wrote a comment about soylentnews.org https://plus.google.com/107363276778018161098/post s/LoTfMuHbU6L [google.com]

    I checked my settings here and it my email address isnt supposed to be being shared publicly. Therefore, I am wondering whether this individual is on the staff here?

    Sincerely,
    buswolley

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    • (Score: 1) by Landon on Monday February 24 2014, @05:09AM

      by Landon (45) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:09AM (#5560) Journal

      I can't see your email publicly, but with a quick google, I do see a google+ account with the nickname buswolley .... is that you?

      • (Score: 1) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @05:15AM

        by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:15AM (#5566)

        ha. I checked, but no that isnt my account. I have used buswolley for some things (yellow sub backwards).

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    • (Score: 1) by tibman on Monday February 24 2014, @05:31AM

      by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @05:31AM (#5579)

      Have you made and g+ posts about SN? If so, he may have found you that way.

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      • (Score: 1) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @05:53AM

        by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:53AM (#5592)

        no. although thats not a bad idea.

        I found out that this guy added me to a circle 2011 too, whomever this guy is that seems to be aware of soylent and me.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by citizenr on Monday February 24 2014, @04:56AM

    by citizenr (2737) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:56AM (#5548)

    Where is the nice moderation threshold slider?
    There are drop down boxes, but they arent working for me as intended - I set mine to 0 and I still see plenty minimized 1-3 point posts.
    Clicking on minimized posts isnt 'ajaxed' like on /., they reload whole page.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @05:11AM

      by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:11AM (#5562)

      Are you hitting 'change' ?

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by drgibbon on Monday February 24 2014, @05:25AM

      by drgibbon (74) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:25AM (#5572) Journal

      Yeah we've gone back in time a bit with slashcode. For now I've set my user prefs for viewing [soylentnews.org] to "Nested" and -1 threshold (in your case 0). I find this works pretty well.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by MaxiCat_42 on Monday February 24 2014, @05:28AM

      by MaxiCat_42 (2087) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:28AM (#5575)

      Use the dropdowns and press change. Slide bars are so 2014.

      Phil.

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      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday February 24 2014, @07:31AM

        by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @07:31AM (#5647) Journal

        Arrrrg! we don't need no stinking sliders.

        They would never work on any mobile device no matter how much you bitched to get them fixed on Slashdot.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by G-forze on Monday February 24 2014, @06:45AM

      by G-forze (1276) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:45AM (#5616)
      I had the same question, but found the answer by digging around a bit. You need to set the Highlight Threshold in your user settings. Found here [soylentnews.org].
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      • (Score: 1) by citizenr on Monday February 24 2014, @08:46AM

        by citizenr (2737) on Monday February 24 2014, @08:46AM (#5684)

        Bingo!
        I think this is what the slider was setting on /.
        thanks

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by regift_of_the_gods on Monday February 24 2014, @04:56AM

    by regift_of_the_gods (138) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:56AM (#5549)

    It's annoyingly hard to find lame things about your site to giggle about.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by drgibbon on Monday February 24 2014, @05:31AM

      by drgibbon (74) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:31AM (#5580) Journal

      Really? The interface is so dated, I think the devs should start work on something new, and more modern. They'll never get a big audience by clinging to this old stuff. Perhaps they could just roll it out incrementally as a beta.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @05:43AM

        by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:43AM (#5586)

        call it alpha

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      • (Score: 1) by captain normal on Monday February 24 2014, @06:46AM

        by captain normal (2205) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:46AM (#5617)

        Whoosh....

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        • (Score: 1) by drgibbon on Monday February 24 2014, @07:10AM

          by drgibbon (74) on Monday February 24 2014, @07:10AM (#5634) Journal

          Beware the meta whoosh [slashdot.org].. ;P

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:43AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:43AM (#7870)

            I think you misspelled "beta whoosh" :-Þ

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by ls671 on Monday February 24 2014, @06:49AM

        by ls671 (891) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @06:49AM (#5618) Homepage

        Shut up! That's the way old farts like us like it ;-)

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      • (Score: 1) by Aighearach on Monday February 24 2014, @09:23PM

        by Aighearach (2621) on Monday February 24 2014, @09:23PM (#6196)

        That is exactly the sort of site I want. Where today's beta is yesterdays production.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Whiteludafan on Monday February 24 2014, @05:01AM

    by Whiteludafan (2136) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:01AM (#5551)

    It would be really nice to get a longer preview of the article in a RSS reader, rather than having to click over based on a title. Thanks for considering the feature.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by zip on Monday February 24 2014, @05:27AM

      by zip (702) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:27AM (#5574)

      This is a known issue, just wait for them to get to it. There are plenty of more important, show-stopping bugs right now.

      That said, I really miss this "feature".

    • (Score: 0) by ls671 on Monday February 24 2014, @06:53AM

      by ls671 (891) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @06:53AM (#5621) Homepage

      Yeah yeah, RSS reader...

      Why don't you volunteer to make the changes?

      Download the VM, make the changes and submit them.

      RSS reader interface is not a priority for me if you asked.

      The web interface should definitely have priority.

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      • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @01:06PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @01:06PM (#5768)

        With an arrogant STFU attitude like that, maybe I should stay on Slashdot. Hmmm...

        I thought this was a community that listened to its users rather than belittling them?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @02:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @02:52PM (#5830)

          SN is currently at ~2000 registered users. So that one user is a mere 0.05% of the SN community, not counting the ACs (because there's no reliable counting of them anyway, and, like me, an AC might just be a non-logged in registered user). So don't equate that one user to the whole community.

        • (Score: 2) by ticho on Tuesday February 25 2014, @12:31PM

          by ticho (89) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @12:31PM (#6570) Homepage Journal

          I fail to see any arrogance or belittling in that post. It merely stated that what you're asking for is in the pipe, and if you want to see it sooner, you can help make it happen. It's a quite common response in any F/OSS community.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:56PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:56PM (#6833)

            The arrogance is not in the content, but in the tone.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by MaxHeadroom on Monday February 24 2014, @05:13AM

    by MaxHeadroom (1088) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:13AM (#5565)

    Just in case anyone was wondering the login to to VM is slash slash.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @05:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @05:22AM (#5570)

    Who are you guys? I mean, who/how are you funded, who call the shot, etc.?

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by mattie_p on Monday February 24 2014, @05:28AM

      by mattie_p (13) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:28AM (#5577) Journal

      Right now we are funded due to the generosity of our founder, Barrabas. Look for more information in an upcoming interview with the staff. If you want to meet us, feel free to join us in IRC, at least one of the staff members is likely to be there at any given time.

      Thanks for reading! ~mattie_p

    • (Score: 1) by nightsky30 on Monday February 24 2014, @12:49PM

      by nightsky30 (1818) on Monday February 24 2014, @12:49PM (#5763)

      Sign up, get involved, find out, and support!

    • (Score: 1) by dotdotdot on Monday February 24 2014, @03:01PM

      by dotdotdot (858) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:01PM (#5838)

      We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week. But all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting. By a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more ....

      But it's better than the old /. dictatorship ... a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes ....

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by cubancigar11 on Monday February 24 2014, @05:51AM

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:51AM (#5591) Homepage Journal

    Yesterday | 2 days ago | 3 days ago
    Avg Comments Per Article: 21.9| 36.3| 52.9

    May I ask to give out a little less mod-points? It is having a chilling effect. The overzealous dumping of mod points really doesn't bode well for community building. We don't have that much karma to burn.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by buswolley on Monday February 24 2014, @06:01AM

      by buswolley (848) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:01AM (#5594)

      This is true. Too many mod points. If you have mod points you dont post. Also, in these early stages at soylent, Being dumped on as off-topic when mentioning difficulty getting a post to submit to the main article kinda turned me off. Let's be more encouraging. There aren't many trolls here.

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      • (Score: 1) by ls671 on Monday February 24 2014, @06:59AM

        by ls671 (891) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @06:59AM (#5624) Homepage

        Bitches, review all my ls671 posts on /. and on SN. Never ever even once I talked about modpoints.

        Take this with a grain of salt please. I just had to say it.

        Cheers,

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      • (Score: 1) by linsane on Monday February 24 2014, @07:24AM

        by linsane (633) on Monday February 24 2014, @07:24AM (#5643)

        I concur, feels a bit out of balance, although I'm aware that a review of moderation is in the pipeline.

      • (Score: 1) by Iskender on Monday February 24 2014, @03:28PM

        by Iskender (470) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:28PM (#5875)

        Speaking of trolls, has anyone seen any good trolling here yet? The earlier site was good for comments, but it also had the most dedicated trolls around.

        I'm not talking about someone just being crude, but rather those trolls which someone obviously put a lot of work into for no reason. Anyone seen any of that on this site yet? Links appreciated.

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @07:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @07:13AM (#5636)

    Can you please fix the RSS feed to display the summary in the header?

    I guess I should register while I can still get a 5 digit ID!

    • (Score: 1) by StarFall on Monday February 24 2014, @07:33AM

      by StarFall (2894) on Monday February 24 2014, @07:33AM (#5651)

      I registered on Sunday apparently still plenty of 4 digits to go around.

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by Jaruzel on Monday February 24 2014, @08:22AM

        by Jaruzel (812) on Monday February 24 2014, @08:22AM (#5676) Homepage Journal

        You guys must be new here. :)

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        • (Score: 5, Funny) by Covalent on Monday February 24 2014, @02:09PM

          by Covalent (43) on Monday February 24 2014, @02:09PM (#5807) Journal

          Seriously.

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        • (Score: 1) by Blackmoore on Monday February 24 2014, @09:53PM

          by Blackmoore (57) on Monday February 24 2014, @09:53PM (#6223) Journal

          :P

          really?

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by new here on Monday February 24 2014, @10:38PM

          by new here (1931) on Monday February 24 2014, @10:38PM (#6248)

          No, I am new here.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by donjan on Monday February 24 2014, @07:39AM

    by donjan (323) on Monday February 24 2014, @07:39AM (#5655)

    As mentioned on IRC several times last week, I'd be happy to see a date for name voting. For which sadly the general motivation seems to have gone, and everybody is getting accustomed to SoylentNews.
    Personally I think there have been at least 10 clearly better names proposed on the wiki... but oh well. Perhaps a poll would be in order?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Luke on Monday February 24 2014, @10:16AM

      by Luke (175) on Monday February 24 2014, @10:16AM (#5716)

      I'll admit to being such a philistine that I needed to look up 'soylent' in order to understand the nicety of the site name.

      Perhaps I'm the only person on earth that hasn't seen the movie but I agree - it's worth a poll at least.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by e on Monday February 24 2014, @08:00AM

    by e (2923) on Monday February 24 2014, @08:00AM (#5667)

    Currently it's not possible to log in on the HTTPS site (it posts to the HTTP version, it seems).

    Also, I think you should consider making the site HTTPS-only. Given the state of the internet (and heck, Slashdot being named in the NSA revelations as specifically targeted) I believe making as many sites as possible HTTPS-only/HTTPS-default is great.

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Admiral on Monday February 24 2014, @04:07PM

      by Admiral (2814) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:07PM (#5914) Journal

      I agree. HTTPS accessibility would be great, and submit the site to HTTPS Everywhere so it can be included in the plugin.

      I would not remove the non-HTTPS site, but maybe make it so anyone who logs in must use the HTTPS site to protect the login session information?

  • (Score: 1) by dargaud on Monday February 24 2014, @09:41AM

    by dargaud (364) on Monday February 24 2014, @09:41AM (#5702)
    When you have the time (it's not urgent), please make sure you implement a search function with some of the following properties:
    - search by title, summary, +5 posts, +4 posts... etc
    - search in your own past posts
    - search in the parents of the posts you replied to
    - search in the replies to your posts
    - search in teh tagged posts (see below)
    That'd be very useful.


    Something else I'd like to see, is simply the possibility to 'tag for later' posts. And have the list of tagged posts easily accessible from the user page. There are plenty of excellent posts I want to keep for later this way.
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bolek_b on Monday February 24 2014, @12:01PM

    by bolek_b (1460) Subscriber Badge on Monday February 24 2014, @12:01PM (#5754)

    Careful here! I have seen a couple of projects with features introduced as "Please remember what we have now was a temporary hack to make $SOME_ASPECT work". Those features often sooner or later became very popular, frequently used and long-lived parts of the system. After that, even mentioning that they are due to be removed/replaced/improved/redesigned caused uproar among users.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by zim on Monday February 24 2014, @01:02PM

    by zim (1251) on Monday February 24 2014, @01:02PM (#5766)
    During the slashcott i removed the site from my favs page. To keep me from going there.

    And when it was readable soylent went into that space. And slashdot.... Well.
    During the week i wasn't there i realized i don't need that site anymore.
    All the storys are dupes from somewhere else. Ars, reddit, etc...
    And the comments have turned into something where funny gets to the top. And informative doesn't.

    So i don't see any need to ever go back. (shrug) It was a good run.
    Been reading it since it existed.
    And honestly the most i remember about it is a bunch of stupid memes and dice.

    It had something unique tho. Any anonymous person could post anything they wanted. AND it could end up the top rated comment spawning a thousand new discussions.
    No other site had that. Until soylent.

    Keep up the good work guys. We appreciate it.
    • (Score: 1) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @01:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @01:23PM (#5779)

      Indeed, the lack of silly restrictions for anonymous postings is great.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @01:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @01:31PM (#5784)

    A kind request: Could you please write the dates in international form (YYYY-MM-DD)? That way there will never be a confusion about which is the month and which the day.

    I think there was a general agreement that this site should be less America-centric than Slashdot.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by mcgrew on Monday February 24 2014, @04:30PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Monday February 24 2014, @04:30PM (#5931) Homepage Journal

      It's your choice on your user preferences page... oh, gee, no account? Sorry, AC, you won't even see this comment. Sucks to be you!

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      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @05:44PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @05:44PM (#5984)

        As an American geek, I can so that the default should be ISO date. Just like the article about SI Units, ISO date is the "right" date format and should be the default.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:53AM (#7873)

        So the preferences page can change the title of the story?

        And yes, I do see the comment. I'm not aware that there's a feature to hide comments from ACs (and if there is, you've forgotten to use it :-Þ)

        (BTW, I do have an account. But I'm not going to use it from the computer I'm currently sitting at, which is not my own.)

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 27 2014, @09:59AM (#7875)

          Oh, and I forgot: The dates shown by the software when not logged in use the month name (February), not the month number (2 or 02), therefore there's also never a source of confusion.

          (And before you nitpick: Yes, for 02/23 there's no confusion possible, but is 04/03 the fourth of March, or the third of April?)

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Covalent on Monday February 24 2014, @02:19PM

    by Covalent (43) on Monday February 24 2014, @02:19PM (#5813) Journal

    ...but I think we should be doing more to encourage people to join. To me, that means post about SN on FB, Twitter, G+ (so we can get both users...I kid, I kid...), and even an AC to the old /. from time to time. Tell your friends, neighbors, and fellow nerds. Get the words out. Soylent News is PEOPLE...and the more people, the better.

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  • (Score: 1) by duvel on Monday February 24 2014, @02:28PM

    by duvel (1496) on Monday February 24 2014, @02:28PM (#5817)

    In the statistics shown in the summary, the terms UID and IPID are used. What's the difference bewteen these two? I've done a google search, but apparently google doesn't know.

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    • (Score: 1) by TK on Monday February 24 2014, @03:53PM

      by TK (2760) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:53PM (#5898)

      I understood the terms to mean user ID and unique IP, respectively. A metric to cover lurkers that don't have accounts/don't sign in, plus ACs, as well as users that log in from multiple computers.

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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by JeanCroix on Monday February 24 2014, @02:38PM

    by JeanCroix (573) on Monday February 24 2014, @02:38PM (#5821)

    we are working hard to get this site fully operational

    Just make sure you shield that thermal exhaust port against proton torpedoes.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @03:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @03:02PM (#5842)

    A tech site with no IPv6 address? C'mon, it's not that hard. Even facebook is on IPv6.

    I do really like the new site though. Keep up the good work, it's much appreciated. I too have stopped visiting the site that we all used to go to for news.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Monday February 24 2014, @03:41PM

    by nitehawk214 (1304) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:41PM (#5884)

    I will continue to visit this site as long as we keep the blog-wanking clickbait useless "articles" from Hugh Pickens and those like him out.

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  • (Score: 1) by L.M.T. Spoon on Monday February 24 2014, @03:52PM

    by L.M.T. Spoon (641) on Monday February 24 2014, @03:52PM (#5896)

    I've found something a little odd: I often do not see new stories on the main page for quite a while. Right now, for instance, I don't see the "Computers Theorized to Gain Consciousness", "Stopping Smoking Improves Health", and "Early Universe as Chocolate Syrup" (some paraphrasing on my part). However, when I click on one of the tags (Science, for example) these stories and their associated comments are listed in search. Also, when I try loading the site on my phone I see them. On my computer I'm using Firefox.

    Does anyone have an idea of what's going on?

    • (Score: 1) by sibiday fabis on Monday February 24 2014, @04:32PM

      by sibiday fabis (2160) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:32PM (#5935)

      Same problem here.

    • (Score: 1) by Koen on Monday February 24 2014, @06:27PM

      by Koen (427) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:27PM (#6029)

      Same problem here, however if I log out I see all posts again. When I log in I see less posts (the most recent are missing).

      I think it started after changing my time zone. I used the "Restore defaults" button on the homepage settings page, but that did not solve it.

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  • (Score: 1) by Admiral on Monday February 24 2014, @04:03PM

    by Admiral (2814) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:03PM (#5908) Journal

    1. Why do you want to target a x86 CPU instead of x64 for the VM? I haven't run an x86 CPU in over a decade, and can't imagine why anyone targets them anymore, especially for server-side things. Just wondering.

    2. I am excited for the new RSS feed mechanism that will provide full stories and hopefully also comments. It would be even better if the RSS mechanism would allow you to be "logged in" so that any randomly-assigned moderation rights you may have would be accessible via RSS.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @04:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24 2014, @04:28PM (#5929)

      I haven't run an x86 CPU in over a decade

      Given that every x64 CPU also is an x86 CPU, I strongly doubt that. ;-)

      Indeed, since those CPUs still start in x86 mode, I also strongly doubt that you've not run a CPU in x86 mode for over a decade. Unless your computers are all over a decade old and have never been rebooted during that time.

      SCNR

      • (Score: 1) by Admiral on Monday February 24 2014, @04:44PM

        by Admiral (2814) on Monday February 24 2014, @04:44PM (#5946) Journal

        Okay, get all nit-picky. LOL

        Technically, the x86/x64 CPU starts in REAL mode, like an 8086, not even protected mode like x86. :)

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by amigasource on Monday February 24 2014, @05:14PM

    by amigasource (1738) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:14PM (#5967) Homepage

    Tiny suggestion. Unless I'm doing something wrong the only thing missing from this site is seeing the first line of the comment on non-expanded posts. Currently all I see is the parent subject, the nickname, score, date & time. There has been countless number of times that seeing just the start of the comment caused me to expand to see the full posting and led me to even more insight to the topic. Hopefully this makes sense....

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  • (Score: 1) by ArghBlarg on Monday February 24 2014, @05:57PM

    by ArghBlarg (1449) on Monday February 24 2014, @05:57PM (#5995)

    I added Soylentnews.org's RSS feed to my newsreader, but it says no new posts, or has blank story summaries when I choose headlines. Not sure where to report this as a bug with the system but if anyone has better results with the RSS feeds please let me know, thanks.

    • (Score: 1) by Koen on Monday February 24 2014, @06:32PM

      by Koen (427) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:32PM (#6035)

      I look at the Soylent RSS feed on Pipedot [pipedot.org], works fine. Pipedot's RSS feed reader is fully customizable, example feed here [pipedot.org].

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      • (Score: 1) by ArghBlarg on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:34AM

        by ArghBlarg (1449) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:34AM (#6393)

        OK, I'll try that I guess. But there must be something the site's doing that is not quite right -- netvibes.com and Google Play Newsstand on Android both don't like the feed.

  • (Score: 1) by e on Monday February 24 2014, @06:20PM

    by e (2923) on Monday February 24 2014, @06:20PM (#6018)

    Additional request for the front-page layout: Please link the title of an article to the article page, so you don't have to find the "Read more". Also, right now where it says "8 comments", only the 8 is a link. Make "comments" part of that link as well.

  • (Score: 1) by t on Monday February 24 2014, @07:08PM

    by t (3147) on Monday February 24 2014, @07:08PM (#6068) Journal

    Hats off to the folks behind soylentnews -- really happy this is going on, and is off to such a strong start.
    A breath of fresh air.
    Here's hoping it really takes wing.

    TD

  • (Score: 1) by Cabd on Monday February 24 2014, @09:25PM

    by Cabd (3184) on Monday February 24 2014, @09:25PM (#6197)

    I've been a long time lurker on /. itself. (I have like three shitty posts there totalish) but the smaller, less shill-tastic community here has inspired me to make an account and feel like I can participate. So like everyone else is saying. Thanks, and I'm glad to see you guys up and running smoothly.

  • (Score: 1) by Trip on Monday February 24 2014, @11:13PM

    by Trip (1619) on Monday February 24 2014, @11:13PM (#6267) Homepage

    I know there was some discussion early on about changing the moderation system. Not sure if it's too late to make a suggestion, but one thing that's always bothered me about it is that there was no mod which is like "-1, Wrong". On the other site, I would often find posts about my particular field of expertise that are completely factually wrong, but there is no moderation to indicate this. It's not a troll, or flamebait, and it's not off-topic, which means the only real option for it is "overrated," which doesn't seem right. Usually, there is already a reply correcting the post which I would attempt to mod up while modding down the factually wrong parent (which itself got modded up by people who apparently believed the factually wrong post), but I would post instead if no previous correction existed. Food for thought.

    Thanks for all the hard work; I'm loving it here so far.

  • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:05AM

    by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:05AM (#7189) Journal

    I've got a minor suggestion which I would consider quite useful: If posting to a story or replying to a post would undo a moderation, the mouseover colour of the corresponding reply button should be red with a tooltip "will undo moderation".

    Also, the submit button in such a case should be red (unconditionally) with tooltip.

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