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posted by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:33PM   Printer-friendly [Skip to comment(s)]
from the choose-your-own-adventure dept.

So, what is SoylentNews? This is your chance to tell us!

I am announcing the first ever SoylentNews online video contest. The rules are pretty simple.

  1. Upload an original video (no more than about 60 seconds, please) to the site of your choice (but please tell us where it is up loaded and ensure it tracks views) that answers the question, "What is Soylent News?" Your video should ideally contain the phrase, "Soylent News is ..." but this is not strictly required. Let us know what site you upload to.
  2. Tag your video SoylentNews.
  3. Watch as the hits roll in.
  4. ????
  5. Profit!

Too easy, right? We will count the views on 31 March 2014, at 11:59 UTC. The winner is the individual video that has the most views.

You do not actually have to appear in the video! Make a cartoon, do CGI, do a voiceover of a movie, whatever. Be creative and explore your artistic vision! (Yes, you have one. It may be underutilized at times but it is there).

We have not yet determined the prize for the winner, but it will be jaw-droppingly awe-inspiring (it's a key-chain I found on the sidewalk somewhere). No, it'll be something good. At a minimum we'll feature your video on the site here and interview you for the "making of" your entry. But probably more (it's a keychain).

On behalf of the entire staff and volunteers, we continue to be amazed at the response we've gotten from the community so far. We will continue to provide ways that you can interact with us and help define us. I hope you enjoy this contest. If you have any other suggestions for how we can better meet your needs, feel free to let us know in IRC, the Forums, or the Wiki. Thanks for reading!

~Mattie_p

p.s. keychain!

p.p.s updated based on feedback

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Based on your questions from a little over 10 days ago, we have our first batch of responses. I want to apologize for the delay, as everything has been moving so quickly that we're still getting our act together in so many ways. Remember that we were still in the very early stages a month ago, so bear with us in our growing pains. We chose a large number of questions, mostly highly rated ones from the community, with some additional questions that I felt deserved answers. Read on for answers from the site leadership.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by WizardFusion on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:37PM

    by WizardFusion (498) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:37PM (#6669) Journal

    Woohoo, a keychain.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:32PM

      by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:32PM (#6806) Journal

      Actually, I lost the keychain. Now I need to find another one. Does anyone have a keychain they can donate for the cause? Thanks for reading. ~mattie_p

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by linsane on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:22PM

        by linsane (633) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:22PM (#6855)

        In all seriousness how about donations for the prize pool, perhaps hardware, btc and cash. I've got some ddr4 laptop ram kicking around that was about to be ebayed.

        This will all of course involve a loss of anonymity by quite a few people

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:45PM (#6671)

    The site is barely off the ground yet. Do we even know what it is yet?

    • (Score: 1) by bucc5062 on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:45PM

      by bucc5062 (699) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:45PM (#6672)

      It is Spartacus.

      --
      The more things change, the more they look the same
    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:07PM (#6695)

      It's people.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:15PM (#6944)

        Its people

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by maxwell demon on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:56AM

          by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:56AM (#7187) Journal

          Whoever moderated this redundant didn't pay attention. It is actually a great joke. It plays on the apostrophe correction posts. Of course the original apostrophe was correct ("it is people"), but the "correction" gave it a new sense, which also makes sense, and in context actually refines the previous post: It is not just people, it is its people. That is, it is not random people who are SN, it is the people of SN.

          It's sad if you have to explain such a joke.

          --
          The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 4, Funny) by ikanreed on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:24PM

      by ikanreed (3164) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:24PM (#6708) Journal

      Of course not, we haven't had dozens of poorly scripted, performed, and edited videos uploaded to a third party site, yet.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by lhsi on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:39PM

      by lhsi (711) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:39PM (#6812) Journal

      Indeed. There was a call for questions to put to those running the site a couple of days ago, you'd think those would be answered first so we have a better idea of the direction of the site.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:49PM

        by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:49PM (#6827) Journal

        We're working on that. Reviewing more than 200 posts isn't exactly a piece of cake. We're working on refining those down based on moderation and distributing those answers, though. Look for it in several days. Thanks for reading! ~mattie_p

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by crutchy on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:35PM

        by crutchy (179) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:35PM (#6910) Homepage Journal

        the direction of the site is always forwards... 'cos we can't find reverse scotty

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:51PM

      by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:51PM (#6828) Journal
      No, so far I've only heard what it isn't, except for a few select people. What I'd like to hear is what you think it is. Thanks for reading! ~mattie_p
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:28PM (#6905)

      I'm sorry but I have to agree. Mostly because video consumers probably only add to noise.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by morgauxo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:38PM

      by morgauxo (2082) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:38PM (#6913)

      It's a community driven project. Therefore it is what it's community is. In the video just describe the site you want to attract people who want the same.

      • (Score: 2) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:40AM

        by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:40AM (#7072) Journal

        "It's a community driven project. Therefore it is what it's community is."

        Well, there's a scary thought.

        --
        something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by LookIntoTheFuture on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:46PM

    by LookIntoTheFuture (462) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:46PM (#6673)

    the point of this is?

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by zocalo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:50PM

      by zocalo (302) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:50PM (#6730)
      Viral marketing? For a discussion site to succeed it needs people to post, and while the initial uptake has been good the site is still way short of the number of posters that are probably needed to really be taken seriously.
      --
      UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by LookIntoTheFuture on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:56PM

        by LookIntoTheFuture (462) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:56PM (#6736)

        Taken seriously by whom? And, why does it need to be taken seriously by anybody else? Does everything need to RULE THE WORLD? I'm all in favor of this site becoming a non-profit. That way this kind of silliness can end.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by zocalo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:05PM

          by zocalo (302) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:05PM (#6788)
          I was thinking more in terms of getting to undertake interviews with notable people, or being able to submit reader submitted questions to them, possibly even do some proper editorial work and request clarification on details of stories directly from the source. Then there's also the Facebook effect; some people are more likely to visit a discussion site because other people are taking part, and the more comments you have, the more likely someone is going to see something they want to respond to.

          True, none of that is strictly necessary for the site to post stories and the readership, regardless of its size, to have fruitful discussions on them, but just as the tagline says: "Soylent News... is People", so the more the merrier.
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          UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:36PM

            by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:36PM (#6911)

            "I was thinking more in terms of getting to undertake interviews with notable people"

            Well, I've been thinking about that topic, I think we can safely assume we're not going to get Woz for the first interview, and I'm volunteering Bruce Perens or mcgrew to be the first interview victim. How generous of me to volunteer them, without even mentioning it to them first.

            Can anyone else think of a victim who's either interesting or a good writer or preferably both, and most importantly, is actually available? How about somebody who likely has a hell of a story, like worked in the IT tent in the park during that Ukraine uprising or something like that?

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by omoc on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:48PM

        by omoc (39) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:48PM (#6771)

        Marketing for what exactly? Users do not exactly generate profit here and the YouTube crowd is nothing like the kind of /. users this knock-off is shooting for.

        Seriously, we can do without the YouTube crowd here so the OP has a valid point with this question.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:40PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:40PM (#6766)

      The point is to get a bunch of organic linkbacks to soylentnews.org from youtube.com so SN so more highly rated in search engine results.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by chown on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:01PM

        by chown (1227) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:01PM (#6966)

        If that's the purpose (and that sounds very plausible), that's pretty bad for two reasons:
        a) it'll attract people from the masses, leading to a reddit like community (eternal september)
        b) if this whole post-your-video thingy is for the hidden purpose of getting linkbacks, it belongs to the same kind of stupid games and tricks that dice tried and continues to play with the other site.

      • (Score: 1) by el_oscuro on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:52AM

        by el_oscuro (1711) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:52AM (#7048)

        PWN the search engines! I like it...

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        SoylentNews is Bacon! [nueskes.com]
    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Covalent on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:02PM

      by Covalent (43) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:02PM (#6783) Journal

      Oh come on. It could be fun!

      And if you ... look into the future (see what I did there)...your video could be the face of SN.

      --
      You can't rationally argue somebody out of a position they didn't rationally get into.
    • (Score: 5, Funny) by dilbert on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:18PM

      by dilbert (444) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:18PM (#6798)
      The point is to see who can marshall the largest botnet to increase the number of 'views' past 1 billion.
      • (Score: 2) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:52PM

        by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:52PM (#6831) Journal

        I'd mod this up funny, but I'm all over this thread and can't. Sorry. Thanks for reading! ~mattie_p

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by SockPuppet on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:47AM

          by SockPuppet (157) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:47AM (#7156)

          You couldn't figure out how to make a sock puppet? ;-)

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:46PM

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:46PM (#6675)

    Keychain? Finally I can "manage ssh and GPG keys in a convenient and secure manner"

    http://www.funtoo.org/Keychain [funtoo.org]

    I assume you're planning on delivering this amazing reward via the usual "apt-get install keychain"?

    If its one of these I would laugh, however:

    http://www.abctoy4me.com/images/01-066-8273.jpg [abctoy4me.com]

    (Not a goatse, promise)

    • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:51PM

      by Lagg (105) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:51PM (#6680) Homepage Journal
      You sick bastard! There is one place and one place only for such images. And that is April 1st. How dare you!
      --
      http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:13PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:13PM (#6700)

        I wrote its not a goatse, I didn't claim that its much better.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by gallondr00nk on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:04PM

      by gallondr00nk (392) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:04PM (#6746)

      I assume you're planning on delivering this amazing reward via the usual "apt-get install keychain"?

      I run Arch, you insensitive clod!

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:21PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:21PM (#6754)

        Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

    • (Score: 2) by keick on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:19PM

      by keick (719) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:19PM (#6799)

      OMG Ponnies!!!! Where can I get such a lovely keychain?

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:53AM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:53AM (#7049) Homepage Journal

      (Not a goatse, promise)

      LOL! Not to you, maybe.

      --
      Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:49PM

    by c0lo (156) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:49PM (#6678) Journal

    You mean... give away my pseudonimity for a keychain? No way. I'd rather start "journalling" on /. about how SN is much better.

    Seriously guys, that's your best shot in promoting SN?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by LookIntoTheFuture on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:56PM

      by LookIntoTheFuture (462) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:56PM (#6684)

      Why even promote it? Smart people will find Soylentnews themselves. Promoting on youtube like this will just bring more "normals" here. Boo!

      • (Score: 1) by naubol on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:33AM

        by naubol (1918) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:33AM (#7030)

        Not once they see the sort of people who comment here. And, I mean no aspersions, but lezz be honest, we're all a nice mixture of aspie, neutroatypical, overdriven people who pretty much scare the bejebus out of a lot of other "normal" people. Of course, this is a gross generality, but we're probably pretty gross in general.

        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:58AM

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:58AM (#7051) Homepage Journal

          Exactly. I fit here. I was starting to feel out of place at slashdot, too many two digit IQs have been showing up there.

          --
          Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:36PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:36PM (#7250)

            Yeah! We one digit IQ's hate it when two digits show up

    • (Score: 1) by mcgrew on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:04PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:04PM (#6691) Homepage Journal

      I'd rather start "journalling" on /. about how SN is much better.

      I'd rather journal about going to Mars with 200 hookers.

      --
      Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
      • (Score: 4, Funny) by girlwhowaspluggedout on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:10PM

        by girlwhowaspluggedout (1223) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:10PM (#6696)
        Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I would like to subscribe to your journal.
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        Soylent is the best disinfectant.
        • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:02PM

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:02PM (#6743) Homepage Journal

          You're in the right place. I just posted chapter 1 today (it's a crude draft).

          --
          Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
          • (Score: 1) by SockPuppet on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:50AM

            by SockPuppet (157) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:50AM (#7158)

            (it's a crude draft)

            You're a fracking blight upon beer. ;-)

            • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:13PM

              by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:13PM (#7284) Homepage Journal

              Well, I am in America, most of the draft here is pretty crude (they do have some fine Irish drafts at D'Arcy's Pint).

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              Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:43PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:43PM (#7552)
                Whoosh. Crude, fracking... cf oil extraction.
      • (Score: 1) by Buck Feta on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:36PM

        by Buck Feta (958) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:36PM (#6810) Journal

        Where's the 60 second video of that?

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        • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:03PM

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:03PM (#6885) Homepage Journal

          Video? Hell, the first draft isn't even half finished!

          --
          Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
          • (Score: 2) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:43AM

            by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:43AM (#7074) Journal

            Space ship to Mars with 100 hookers on board, who needs a first draft, the script will write itself.

            --
            something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
            • (Score: 1) by SockPuppet on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:19AM

              by SockPuppet (157) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:19AM (#7171)

              Hooker 1: oh, oh, oh, oh baby
              Hooker 2: mm yeah that's right
              Hooker 1: oh, oh, oh, oh baby

              For best results, use the OS X say command to read the script.

            • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:54PM

              by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:54PM (#7315) Homepage Journal

              To tell you the truth, all my stuff writes itself. I just sit down and start typing and stories come out. There are actually a few chapters written, they were at slashdot before S/N existed and so far, it isn't porn. And I really doubt there will be anything like The Hacker in Nobots.

              It's more about how this Lloyds guy deals with all these horny hookers, especially after he gets a girlfriend in a bar right before takeoff. The fact that the hookers are all drug addicts and the withdrawal is dangerous to folks who aren't the addicts... well, you're right, it writes itself.

              I'm posting a chapter a day until it's caught up with what slashdot has, then posting them here a few days before they get there. First I'm going to have to read the damned thing, haven't worked on it in months and I can't even remember the protagonist's first name.

              Today's chapter will come in a little while, or maybe this evening. It's unnamed at /. and will have a line or two that is missing from the /. version.

              I hope you guys (and gals) enjoy it.

              --
              Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
            • (Score: 1) by VanessaE on Thursday February 27 2014, @03:28AM

              by VanessaE (3396) <vanessa.e.dannenberg@gmail.com> on Thursday February 27 2014, @03:28AM (#7742) Journal
              What, no blackjack???
    • (Score: 4, Informative) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:05PM

      by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:05PM (#6842) Journal

      The only marketing I've seen to date is posting "Fuck Beta" comments on another site. I think we can do better. And I don't think I required you to appear on camera, even if you submit a video. I was thinking more along the lines of "StarWars Uncut" where a variety of formats would be good. Feel free to explore video, however you want to do it, or even choose to not participate.

      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:49PM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:49PM (#6964) Journal

        The only marketing I've seen to date is posting "Fuck Beta" comments on another site. I think we can do better.

        Mate, I'll be blunt, but please don't take it the wrong way. It's a candid dump of my mind and I'd be very grateful for the same in return, even if it would come equally blunt:

        1. if you want marketing and exposure, why don't you raise the problem as such? I mean, we left /. because we felt we were contributors not audience. How do you think it feels now to be treated as mass to manoeuvre as you think would be beneficial and entice this mass with "definitely a keychain"?
        2. what's wrong with 3000 users in, let's be generous, 2 weeks since opening the site? Why does it need to be more than just an organic grow?
          Are there some objective reason pushing you in the need of faster grow? Did someone/something imposed a deadline? You cannot access some sponsorship without a "critical community mass", thus running a risk of not being able to support the site?
          (is it only a personal desire for a faster growth i.e. not necessarily an objective reason? If it is so, don't you think it would worth asking the community too how do they feel about?)

        If you want a community to support you, I think that it's only fair that you, as a steward, be open towards it, otherwise you'll create dissonances in the feelings of inclusion/"belongliness" and those will accumulate to a breaking point - it happened in specific way with "the other site", it can happen to SN (maybe due to other reason, don't be naive to believe it was the Beta look-and-feel is the actual reason for the split, even if it well may have been the trigger for it).

        If you really like to take the pulse of the nascent SN community, why don't you ask directly: "So, guys, why did you get here in the first place?"

        Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm old enough not to be ashamed of being wrong; so, if you think I'm wrong, table your point of view and let's get this over with

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
      • (Score: 1) by enharmonix on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:27PM

        by enharmonix (1891) <enharmonix+soylentnews@gmail.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:27PM (#6979)
        The only marketing I've seen to date is posting "Fuck Beta" comments on another site.

        That is your target demographic though (not the trolls, their targets). I don't like those posts at all and don't think they're helpful, but admittedly, I found out about this site from them. If you want to attract that crowd (which is, admit it, exactly who you're after), the best way is to post stories they don't have and can't duplicate without plagiarizing you. You can't just have editors. You need reporters too. You know, interviews, articles instead of just summaries, journalism, that sort of thing. If you have enough actual content (more than just links), other sites can cite you instead of just linking to the same source as you and bypassing you altogether.

        I checked out soylent news because it was mentioned on /. but I signed up because you have different stories (and you appear to be serious). Short of buying advertising from them, you want some way to get them (not YouTube) to link to you. Basically, you want soylent news to be the bastard child of Ars (journalism) and /. (discussion... and source code). However, that means you wouldn't be a slashdot replacement anymore. You'd be something else entirely.

        • (Score: 5, Informative) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @11:18PM

          by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @11:18PM (#6997) Journal

          The only marketing I've seen to date is posting "Fuck Beta" comments on another site.

          That is your target demographic though (not the trolls, their targets). I don't like those posts at all and don't think they're helpful, but admittedly, I found out about this site from them. If you want to attract that crowd (which is, admit it, exactly who you're after), the best way is to post stories they don't have and can't duplicate without plagiarizing you. You can't just have editors. You need reporters too. You know, interviews, articles instead of just summaries, journalism, that sort of thing. If you have enough actual content (more than just links), other sites can cite you instead of just linking to the same source as you and bypassing you altogether.

          No, our target demographic isn't slashdot users. It is nerds of all colors, genders, stripes, and shapes. Yes, we forked from slashdot. However, why should we limit ourselves to ex-slashdotters? Can't we aim higher and do better? We, the staff, feel that the community should be made up of whoever chooses to associate with us. That includes younger people who are nerds, but possibly in different ways then you or I are. We are exploring how to use twitter and other social media platforms, because, like it or not, nerds use those! We are exploring using non-textual media, because some nerds like to receive information that way! I personally don't like watching video on my computer, but I'm not going to turn a nerd away because they do.

          We do have very vague plans for actual journalism, but we cannot implement everything immediately. I'd ask you to check back on that in a while.

          I checked out soylent news because it was mentioned on /. but I signed up because you have different stories (and you appear to be serious). Short of buying advertising from them, you want some way to get them (not YouTube) to link to you. Basically, you want soylent news to be the bastard child of Ars (journalism) and /. (discussion... and source code). However, that means you wouldn't be a slashdot replacement anymore. You'd be something else entirely.

          We are serious. We have a vision for being a serious site, but no sense of what the community wants, or if they buy into that vision. If this whole video thing flops, that is perfectly OK by me. Part of what I wanted for this was to get the word out. Check out our current "getting the word out [soylentnews.org]," and let me know if you have any better ideas. You do? Great! Let us know! Why didn't you say something already?

          Oh, nothing better than bash dice? Then you know what you can do and where you can go. Because, again, I'd rather do something positive for ourselves than continue to harangue a site that we've all known and loved for some time that has been steered in the wrong direction. Even if we make steps in the wrong direction (and this whole video idea may have been wrong - too soon to tell) we're willing to have the dialogue, instead of making pronouncements from up on high. The very fact that I am willing to respond personally should indicate we're doing something different, something better. We want to do better, and I hope that counts for something.

          Last thing. We're not a replacement for anyone or any site. We are our own site. To use your own words, we are something else entirely. And it is time we stopped thinking about comparisons to the dead past, and started thinking of the living future. SoylentNews is the future of nerd news and nerd journalism. We want to have the dialogue on where that future takes us.

          Thanks for reading and for posting such a thoughtful response. ~mattie_p

          • (Score: 2) by kebes on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:52AM

            by kebes (1505) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:52AM (#7037)
            As I said in another comment [soylentnews.org], you guys are overall doing a great job. So please take these comments constructively:

            I believe the video contest is potentially fun, but likely to not pan out. (I'm happy to be proven wrong.) My opinion is that SN should be targeting the nerdiest and most technically-minded segments; those are the people who will contribute to the awesome discussions that we want (and that so far we've been generating). I believe one of the characteristics of nerds of this type (whether young or old), is that they process information quickly, and they abhor roadblocks to their attempts to process that information. (Everyone hates slow-loading pages and pop-up ads, but we seem to especially hate them...) Text is much faster to read/understand, as well as generate. So, in this sense a video contest might turn off some users.

            In fact, since we're trying to curate a community of people who fanatically enjoy fast-paced text-based discussions, it would seem that text-based 'events' could work. For instance, getting interesting people to do a Q&A story, but also arrange for the person to 'show up in the comments' during a prescribed time period to actually interact with the community. (Similar to a reddit AMA, I suppose.) The 'guests' for these things don't have to be super-stars in the tech community: I would love to be able to pick the brain (no-holds-barred, no question too stupid) of experts in datacenter design, databases, photography, etc. Picking a specific time-of-day for when some stories are released might also help focus the community and increase the comment-count on those stories.

            Relatedly, one of the things I'm a bit worried with SN is that the discussions are not always reaching 'critical mass'. On Slashdot, the readership was large enough such that discussions would get 'fully formed' within a couple hours. Commenting after that was often pointless, as moderators and other users would rarely go back and look at old stories. SN has a smaller community (for now!), so it takes longer for a discussion to really 'build up'... but within a short time stories are pushed off the page and so those older discussions die. People don't seem to be going back to re-read and participate in the older posts (I'm guilty of this, too). I'm not sure what the solution is. Fewer posts-per-day would solve this problem but create another (not enough variety/content). Perhaps we could have mechanisms wherein an older post that was still getting actively commented-on gets re-promoted to the front page? Or perhaps reorganize the sidebar to more clearly and cleanly show the "still active" discussions from the last few days?

            These ideas are vague and ill-formed. I'm just throwing them out there in the hopes of generating discussion...
            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by kebes on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:11AM

              by kebes (1505) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:11AM (#7040)
              Another suggestion for boosting the amount of commenting: Have a "Good Question" moderation option. When a post comes along and someone is an expert in that subject, they may (paradoxically), not feel any inclination to comment. Maybe the content of the article is well-known to them, so they skip past; or they're unsure how detailed to be in their commenting (since they know the subject so well), ... But one way to engage these people would be for the rest of the community to post questions in the thread, thereby encouraging the experts to explain nuances of the topic in more detail.

              And, a way to encourage these questions would be to explicitly up-moderate them, giving people karma for posing good/interesting questions. Alternatively, we could just update the moderation guidelines to say "Look out for good questions!" ... but does anyone read the guidelines?
            • (Score: 1) by Daniel Dvorkin on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:49AM

              by Daniel Dvorkin (1099) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:49AM (#7045) Journal

              Perhaps we could have mechanisms wherein an older post that was still getting actively commented-on gets re-promoted to the front page? Or perhaps reorganize the sidebar to more clearly and cleanly show the "still active" discussions from the last few days?

              Either of these might be a good idea, particularly if they could be controlled by a user setting: say the sidebar by default, with "bumping" recently-commented-on old stories as an option. A lot of people seem to dislike old stories being brought to the fore, but you know, it works for Usenet ...

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              Pipedot [pipedot.org]:Soylent [soylentnews.org]::BSD:Linux
            • (Score: 1) by Maow on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:55AM

              by Maow (8) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:55AM (#7101) Homepage

              You've given me a couple of my own (so far) ill-formed thoughts.

              "Video of your science experiment" could be cool use of video.

              Also, on /. I always made a point of mostly only reading somewhat older stories due to the conversation being more complete by that time.

              My mod points probably weren't as effective as if I dove in to new stories, but I got more out of it. And helped promote the stragglers' comments.

            • (Score: 2) by Popeidol on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:12AM

              by Popeidol (35) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:12AM (#7106) Journal

              A quick patch for the 'critical mass' problem could be a Recent Comments page. At the moment if I want to see any fresh content in a discussion I have to open up a bunch of articles and sort by newest first. A list of recent comments would make that easier, and help people find interesting things going on in older articles (and as a bonus, it's a quick way to find comments that could use moderating).

              It wouldn't scale well as the site increases, but might help keep conversations going at the moment.

          • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Reziac on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:30AM

            by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:30AM (#7108) Homepage

            If you really want SN to "be its own site" -- don't try to force it with silly marketing techniques that are, bluntly, the equivalent of handing out AOL disks to everyone who can be convinced to carry one off, and are likely to have the same result: a flood of "Oooh, shiny!" posters who only last long enough to frustrate the rest of us into leaving.

            Remember, please -- that Other Site[TM] grew entirely via word-of-mouth. Give SN time, and remember it takes a couple years for a community to grow into being.

            Trying to forcefeed it numbers comprised of anyone who can be conned into showing up makes me think the motivation is immediate profit rather than long-term viability.

            I myself came here from a link in a Slashdot sig, because after 15 years there I consider it a trusted source. No way in hell would I have come here from a YouTube link.

          • (Score: 1) by enharmonix on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:56PM

            by enharmonix (1891) <enharmonix+soylentnews@gmail.com> on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:56PM (#7352)

            No, our target demographic isn't slashdot users. It is nerds of all colors, genders, stripes, and shapes. Yes, we forked from slashdot. However, why should we limit ourselves to ex-slashdotters? Can't we aim higher and do better? We, the staff, feel that the community should be made up of whoever chooses to associate with us. That includes younger people who are nerds, but possibly in different ways then you or I are. We are exploring how to use twitter and other social media platforms, because, like it or not, nerds use those! We are exploring using non-textual media, because some nerds like to receive information that way! I personally don't like watching video on my computer, but I'm not going to turn a nerd away because they do.

            Very good to hear, actually. But I didn't mean you want /. users, I meant /. users are nerds and you want nerds, like you say. But you're right, /. is only a subset of nerds. I like the sound of nerds of all stripes. Some nerdy subjects off the top of my head that aren't on /. are music (not entertainment news, but things like music theory, software, etc... geeky stuff), anime, video games... I already like the site. I haven't abandoned /. but soylent news is already alongside them in my RSS feed.

          • (Score: 1) by Reziac on Friday February 28 2014, @03:21AM

            by Reziac (2489) on Friday February 28 2014, @03:21AM (#8241) Homepage

            Addendum: I got mod points today -- I like having the moderate button WITH the comment instead of just at the bottom of the page. Excellent; I shall mod up some fine comments.

            Small bug: the "Moderate" thing doesn't go away once I've modded that comment.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @11:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @11:20PM (#6999)

        Why don't you spill out what you hope to achieve with this site? What does your overlord say? Who is this Barrabas anyways?

      • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:05AM

        by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:05AM (#7052) Homepage Journal

        Why do we need marketing? I see it growing. No need for it to be huge, in fact growing too fast is dangerous. As long as we're all enjoying ourselves, isn't that what matters? Yeah, I'd like to see a bigger community but a bigger community of nerds. If I wanted reddit I'd go there.

        --
        Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
        • (Score: 1) by Reziac on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:37AM

          by Reziac (2489) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:37AM (#7112) Homepage

          Yep, and as I say above... too much marketing, especially via the "fling it to the four winds" method, is a pretty good way to be "big" in a very transient way -- while those of us who want a real community, we who would show up every day for years to come ...fail to find it here, and depart.

          Communities build of themselves. You can't forcefeed that, and you can't market it into existence. However, you can sure as hell market it OUT of existence.

      • (Score: 1) by CowboyTeal on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:01AM

        by CowboyTeal (15) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:01AM (#7103)

        Turns out that I'm permabanned at /. as of today. Been talking too much about "fuckbeta" and they seemed to have enough with it. I'm quite happy that I won't need to ever go back there though. I suppose this is your answer to what soylentnews is to me.

        --
        Getting siggy with it.
      • (Score: 1) by adolf on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:26AM

        by adolf (1961) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:26AM (#7197)

        First, I agree with (some) others: The video idea is probably not going to work (video strongly implies camera work, but this is not a photogenic crowd, therefore we're camera-shy, therefore we don't futz with cameras much, and doing stick-frame animation with grep, awk, sed, and imagemagick is difficult)... But that's reason at all to avoid the effort, and I look forward to see what floats to the top.

        We've got a lot of ground to cover here in this new place before end of March, and certainly no harm can come from some people being creative. Even if you only get one submission and it is terrible, that's still one submission more than you would've gotten last month.

        Aaand. Since I've been looking for a few minutes and can't find private contact info for anyone at soylentnews.org to drop them a line. Perhaps contact info is hidden in plain sight and it is my own fault for not seeing it: it is late for me, and the wine is yummy. So I'll just leave my opinions as a community member here instead.

        First, whitespace. I know, I know: Everyone hates extraneous whitespace -- including myself. As I write this comment, my blank lines occupy a whole line. But if I preview or post the comment, my blank lines occupy much less than a whole line. I'm not suggesting that a blank [br] be fully-space, just that the spacing be increased: As it is, there is a lot of disparity between how my comment looks in the editing window, and how it presents itself. I'd double-blank-line-delineate my paragraphs ...but that doesn't work here either. (there are five blank lines between this partial paragraph and the paragraph above, as shown in my preview window, and I'm inputting "plain old text" just as I normally do with Slashcode)

        And while I realize that HTML is a markup language instead a layout system (and et cetera), if I can't (de?)lineate my prose, then I (for one) will continue to be annoyed. And you know: I didn't come here to be annoyed. :) I haven't looked at the CSS to see how it lays out for real, but it looks like about .5, while perhaps .8 or .9 would be good.

        Aaaand: Blockquote. Before /. introduced a vertical line to the left of blockquote, people used all kinds of ways to quote other people: Cut and paste with bold, leading and trailing hyphens, italics, etc, all within or without a [blockquote]. But once the vertical lines showed up, folks generally learned how to use blockquote by itself, and that greatly improved the consistency of the comments (which is the only reason I show up here, and used to show up there, to begin with).

        I don't know if /.-style vertical lines are best, or something else. But mere indentation, as seems to be done now as it was done before on some other site that I'm having an extremely hard time not making comparisons to, is insufficient. [blockquote] needs to be more than than indentation.

        Aaand, that's all for now. You folks have done a great job here, and I'm pleased as hell to be a part of it. I look forward to many years of senseless debates, and (this is the important part) occasionally changing people's mind, and occasionally having my own opinion swayed.

        I have no further complaints at this time. Thank you. :)

        --
        I'm wasting my days as I've wasted my nights and I've wasted my youth
        • (Score: 1) by adolf on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:35AM

          by adolf (1961) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:35AM (#7201)

          This problem is particularly bothersome on very short segments of blockquote. For example, quoting myself from minutes prior

          [blockquote] needs to be more than than indentation.

          See what I mean? Yay! A few words are indented.

          . . . . but so are these. A stylistic way to differentiate a quote (whatever the quote) ought to have more than indent.

                                                        especially when spaces are allowed
                                              but blank lines aren't.

          (and thanks, again. srsly.)

          --
          I'm wasting my days as I've wasted my nights and I've wasted my youth
        • (Score: 2) by mattie_p on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:38PM

          by mattie_p (13) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:38PM (#7392) Journal

          Well, if it doesn't work and no one comes, we've learned something. And that is ok. We are going to try very hard to avoid forcing change on the community. Some changes (like bug fixes) will come down, and some UI changes will come (minor) that will make the site more usable.

          But we will offer ways for people to participate in building the future of the site. We will never be able to please everyone all of the time. Our aim is to serve most of the needs of most of the community most of the time. Sometimes we'll make mistakes, and as long we we learn from them it is ok. I'm not yet convinced this is a mistake, but even if it is I will learn from it, and mark an item in my notebook: "no more video contests, evar!"

          We have a couple of places for suggestions. Some of them have been submitted as bugs (although we'd prefer you don't do that), some of them have been posted to our wiki page [soylentnews.org], and we now have suggestions (at] soylentnews [dot) org available. We'll get them to the right group if you email.

          Thanks for reading and contributing! ~mattie_p

    • (Score: 2) by Khyber on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:44PM

      by Khyber (54) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:44PM (#6922) Journal

      So make a fake yet realistic sounding name to post one video to one account that you'll never touch again.

      It's not terribly difficult.

      --
      Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:07PM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:07PM (#6969) Journal

        Mate, ask me to help with SN promotion and I might be able, even willing, to do it somehow.

        Ask me to waste my time in learning the minimal video editing/creation and I'll start asking impertinent questions [soylentnews.org]

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
        • (Score: 2) by Khyber on Friday February 28 2014, @03:57AM

          by Khyber (54) on Friday February 28 2014, @03:57AM (#8254) Journal

          "Ask me to waste my time in learning the minimal video editing/creation"

          Click the record button. Shut the fuck up except about your topic. Click the record button again. Save.

          If you need to learn how a record and stop record button works, you're nowhere near as old as me and you should probably be very quiet!

          --
          Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday February 28 2014, @04:42AM

            by c0lo (156) on Friday February 28 2014, @04:42AM (#8273) Journal

            Yeah, I was missing the sprinkle of rudeness and flame-biting from /. Thanks for providing it to me.

            you're nowhere near as old as me

            Seems that (your presumably longer than mine) life didn't teach you too many. But, hey, I reckon having a mind set of a bully 7 years old may be have its advantages.

            and you should probably be very quiet!

            So, what's your next desire: kick me out of SN?

            --
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
            • (Score: 2) by Khyber on Friday February 28 2014, @05:09AM

              by Khyber (54) on Friday February 28 2014, @05:09AM (#8287) Journal

              "Seems that (your presumably longer than mine) life didn't teach you too many."

              Too many what, son? You didn't learn how to finish your sentences?

              "But, hey, I reckon having a mind set of a bully 7 years old may be have its advantages."

              No, having the mind of an educated person with actual life experience has its advantages. Seriously. You still haven't demonstrated that you know the differences between a record and stop button/icon. Get to it, and maybe my attitude will change. Until then, you're demonstrating sheer ignorance or a solid lack of support for this site, and there's no excuse for that.

              "So, what's your next desire: kick me out of SN?"

              People with the proper mod points could in effect do that on a temporary basis.

              --
              Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
              • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday February 28 2014, @05:27AM

                by c0lo (156) on Friday February 28 2014, @05:27AM (#8295) Journal

                Mate, you know what? Read the first post of the thread, is mine.

                In the context of my objections expressed in that post, try to think how much I value your "press record button" advice.

                --
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
                • (Score: 2) by Khyber on Friday February 28 2014, @06:52AM

                  by Khyber (54) on Friday February 28 2014, @06:52AM (#8335) Journal

                  "Seriously guys, that's your best shot in promoting SN?"

                  You're obviously doing better? I fucking think not.

                  --
                  Destroying Semiconductors With Style Since 2008, and scaring you ill-educated fools since 2013.
  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Dragon on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:52PM

    by Dragon (2927) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:52PM (#6681)

    This is a slashdot rip-off in the hopes to get rid of the crappy slashdot editors and company behind it.

    I, with all my heart, wish it to be successful. So instead of this contest, go over to slashdot and post there to come over here, that is a much better use for your time than posting stupid youtube videos. We *know* what this is. Now it's just time to make it happen.

    And, please, get rid of that aggressive red, just change it into something less bright.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mcgrew on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:15PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:15PM (#6702) Homepage Journal

      We *know* what this is.

      No. You know what it is to you. I know what it is to me. The folks behind the scenes want to know what we know.

      --
      Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:25PM

        by c0lo (156) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:25PM (#6709) Journal

        No. You know what it is to you. I know what it is to me. The folks behind the scenes want to know what we know.

        Bollocks... if they truly want to know, there'd be an "Ask SN" post. Instead is a "go on youtube and make a fool of yourself, because ???? leads to profit"

        --
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:31PM (#6805)

        This is no flamebait, this is the truth. Deny it all you want, but it's still the truth.

        Even the site does not deny it, only you are. It copies the features and even the basic layout and targets the same audience.

        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mcgrew on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:52PM

          by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:52PM (#6877) Homepage Journal

          No, not the same "audience". What USED to be their community. This site targets what slashdot used to target, NERDS. Folks interested in science and tech and who WEREN'T interested in IPOs and corporate takeovers and iThings.

          Your use of "audience" is... interesting. Slashdot didn't used to have an audience, it used to have a community. Slashdot is wooing the non-nerds, because they outnumber us nerds 100 to 1. They've been getting more and more people over there who think because they have a Windows 8 computer and an iPhone they're nerds, when we real nerds know that we're not the ones buying the shiny shit, we're designing, engineering, programming, and repurposing it.

          Dice decided to take slashdot in a different direction, a direction that is comfortable for non-nerds but intolerable to us nerds. So drag your wimpy little normal ass back to beta, boy. We came here to get away from people like you.

          --
          Free Martian whores! [mcgrewbooks.com]
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:51PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:51PM (#6930)

            It was never about beta, and all about money.

          • (Score: 5, Informative) by kebes on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:31AM

            by kebes (1505) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:31AM (#7029)

            This site targets what slashdot used to target, NERDS. Folks interested in science and tech and who WEREN'T interested in IPOs and corporate takeovers and iThings. ... we're not the ones buying the shiny shit, we're designing, engineering, programming, and repurposing it.

            This is one of the clearest descriptions of what I want out of SN, also. The good parts of Slashdot were the highly technical discussions about computers, programming, technology, science, and math. Politics and business discussions can be fun sometimes, but the most interesting discussions (for me) were those delving deeper into the details than most other sites were willing to go. Even better was when someone actually involved in the work would chime-in.

            So... What is SoylentNews to me? It's a site focused on detailed discussions on technical topics, by technically-minded people who are passionate about technical work. In terms of growing SN, this means making the comment and moderation system ever more robust, it means focusing the submissions towards the topics the community cares about, and it means all of us participating in discussions so that this place becomes vibrant and alluring to all the nerds that haven't yet joined.

      • (Score: 2) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:42PM

        by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:42PM (#6821) Journal

        mcgrew wrote:

        We *know* what this is.

        No. You know what it is to you. I know what it is to me. The folks behind the scenes want to know what we know.

        This, exactly. Thanks for reading. ~mattie_p

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:31PM (#6761)

      Posting anon to not undo mod.
      I do exactly that... I even put ads for soylentnews to its firehose few times.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:41PM

      by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:41PM (#6817) Journal

      Personally, I feel that posting comments to another site trying to draw audience away from there is counter-productive. Instead of choosing to identify SoylentNews by what it is not, I choose to identify it by what it is, a community. And a community should always have the choice to define its own identity.

      Thus, I am requesting that the members of the community use this opportunity to help define us in a positive manner.

      Honestly, I think we're past the point where we need to spam another site. I talked with someone on Sunday about the site, and he told me today he was up past midnight reading the articles and comments last night. We want to be a positive contribution to everyone, not just anti-something.

      Thanks for reading. ~mattie_p

      • (Score: 1) by Yow on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:08PM

        by Yow (1637) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:08PM (#6845)

        asking Elite Nerds to 1. post a VIDEO (i.e. we can actually see you) and 2. articulate something positive - may just be too much to ask (?!?)

      • (Score: 2) by Sir Garlon on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:12PM

        by Sir Garlon (1264) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:12PM (#6972)

        Not to mention that Dice worked hard to widen the audience, and we are working hard to narrow it. Leave the muggles to Slashdot. I hope they like it better without us, because I sure like Soylent without them.

        --
        [Sir Garlon] is the marvellest knight that is now living, for he destroyeth many good knights, for he goeth invisible.
      • (Score: 2) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:51AM

        by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:51AM (#7079) Journal

        When my dad passed away (somewhat unexpectedly), it was a month or so before I got back to /.

        What if that month had been February 2014?

        How would I even know about this place or the whole flap about beta?

        --
        something something Slashcott something something Beta something something
        • (Score: 1) by adolf on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:29AM

          by adolf (1961) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:29AM (#7173)

          How did you hear about /. in the first place?

          --
          I'm wasting my days as I've wasted my nights and I've wasted my youth
          • (Score: 2) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @09:04AM

            by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @09:04AM (#7208) Journal

            "How did you hear about /. in the first place?"

            It got mentioned on the now long defunct browserwatch.com's chat forums.

            There was a user there I got along well with who also showed up on /. ... and after driving myself nuts for an hour or so I found an old email that revealed the name I was trying to remember was Tridus.

            You can see a comment from him near the bottom of this

            http://slashdot.org/story/00/05/18/1433233/jeffrey -zeldman-bites-back [slashdot.org]

            which co-incidentally happened to occur during my aforementioned period of absence.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Jakestar on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:53PM

    by Jakestar (2355) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:53PM (#6682)

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    In a world... where robotic corporate overlords ruled supreme, one news sites defiantly proclaimed their motto to be "is people"

    Watch... as tens of people upload shoddy youtube videos to gain the one keychain of power

    This documentary will take you behind the scenes and leave you breathless, on the edge of your seat, with your heart pounding

    Silent News... the seriously silent rise of SoylentNews and what it is all about

    • (Score: 1) by song-of-the-pogo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:58PM

      by song-of-the-pogo (1315) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:58PM (#6738) Homepage Journal

      I ... would watch that, or at least sit through the trailer.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:46PM (#6876)

      You Sir are hereby awarded one intarnets!

      • (Score: 1) by Buck Feta on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:05AM

        by Buck Feta (958) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:05AM (#7053) Journal

        And a keychain.

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        • (Score: 2) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:53AM

          by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:53AM (#7081) Journal

          So is keychain the new Cowboy Neal?

          Mmmmm, it's still got that new meme smell.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by moylan on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:54PM

    by moylan (3063) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:54PM (#6683)

    can you upload a video to youtube without g+ these days? i deleted all my youtube videos and favourites when they buggered it up with g+.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by gallondr00nk on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:40PM

      by gallondr00nk (392) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:40PM (#6815)

      You can't. You can get a Youtube account and strip the G+ functionality out [vtdesignworks.com] (I think those instructions still work, it's been a while since I tried), but it means you can't post comments or upload videos. I keep an account solely for keeping track of subscriptions.

      I'm assuming that Vimeo or Dailymotion submissions would be equally acceptable?

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by DarkMorph on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:57PM

    by DarkMorph (674) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @03:57PM (#6685)
    What is SoylentNews? It's people! Can't you read the logo at the top?!
    • (Score: 2, Funny) by tempest on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:17PM

      by tempest (3050) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:17PM (#6796)

      I find that hard to believe. It tastes like chicken to me.

      • (Score: 2) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:02AM

        by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:02AM (#7087) Journal

        Is that you, Donner?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:20PM (#6854)

      I live videos with... people... ;)

    • (Score: 1) by SockPuppet on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:52AM

      by SockPuppet (157) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:52AM (#7159)

      From in here, it looks like a fine angora weave.

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by skullz on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:05PM

    by skullz (2532) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:05PM (#6692)

    Now Soylent went corporate. "What IS, Dunder Mifflin, Jim? Tell us your thoughts. There is no wrong answer. But there is a right one." At least have cake.

    And why in god's name would you want your target audience posting videos? Our faces may be visible. Think of the children!

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by ementaler on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:20PM

      by ementaler (1796) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:20PM (#6706)

      Soylent should merge with Pipedot instead of fragmenting potential users. Or atleast adopt that blue layout - much better for the eyes...

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by cykros on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:56PM

        by cykros (989) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:56PM (#6737)

        If fragmenting is what we're worried about, then we'd better also get working on usenet integration to make sure comp.misc isn't left behind...

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by unitron on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:04AM

        by unitron (70) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:04AM (#7090) Journal

        "Or atleast adopt that blue layout - much better for the eyes..."

        Allow me to second that motion.

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  • (Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:30PM

    by BsAtHome (889) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:30PM (#6714)

    Must this be a "youtube" video, or may is be uploaded to any service of choice, including self-hosted? I cannot see a reason why you should want to insist on "youtube".

    • (Score: 1) by Foobar Bazbot on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:52PM

      by Foobar Bazbot (37) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:52PM (#6731) Journal

      Selfhosted? Verily, if thou win, then shalt thy server soyl itself.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:43PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:43PM (#6873)

        No one can survive tens of hits

    • (Score: 1) by waldo on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:53PM

      by waldo (3314) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:53PM (#6774)

      Yes, any site. My video is hosted on my own domain. Oh, look, my "counter" shows 1 billion hits! I'll take my prize now!

    • (Score: 2) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:43PM

      by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:43PM (#6823) Journal

      Modified the OP, thanks for the feedback. Post it anywhere, just help us find it. Thanks for reading. ~mattie_p

    • (Score: 1) by Yog-Yogguth on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:15PM

      by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:15PM (#6973) Journal

      They've changed it now so one can do whatever.

      One possibility would be to use the Internet Archive for uploads https://archive.org/about/faqs.php#Uploading_Conte nt [archive.org]. I think that allows for torrenting too.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Boxzy on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:59PM

    by Boxzy (742) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @04:59PM (#6742) Journal

    I know I can't be the only one thinking this.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @08:38AM (#7204)

      FTFY

      (looks like the system doesn't allow me to post this without adding this useless blurb... as in no submit button)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:22PM (#6755)

    is there a way to make a google account without having to use a mobile phone number, 'cause it seems i need a google account to upload a youtube video?

    • (Score: 1) by NewMexicoArt on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:35PM

      by NewMexicoArt (1369) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:35PM (#6765)

      how about a way to upload videos to this site, then have someone transfer them to youtube

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:41PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:41PM (#6767)
    ...YouTube clickbait, apparently.
    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:45PM

      by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:45PM (#6875)

      "Go away, baitin'"

      The sad part is that movie was originally intended to be a documentary about youtube commenters.

      As a meta observation I'll say this article, the whole thing, top to bottom has to be the funniest thing I've seen all day.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @05:55PM (#6778)

    Suddenly Slashdot doesn't seem so bad...

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:05PM (#6787)

    What is SoylentNews?

    No.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by goathack on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:30PM

    by goathack (1992) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:30PM (#6804)

    But I sure as heck know I don't want it to be some lame "new media" nonsense that uses pointless videos to try and drive hits.

    How about focus on some quality discussion, instead? That WAS the point, wasn't it?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by mattie_p on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:08PM

      by mattie_p (13) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:08PM (#6846) Journal

      Do you think the quality discussion has been lacking to this point? If so, in what way? I'm always reading the comments on stories I publish (unlike some other sites) and will accept constructive criticism. And I admit mistakes and fix them, if appropriate. Do you think a promotion like this will distract from quality discussion? Isn't there room for more people?

      I don't think we're trying something "new" for the sake of newness, but to get people engaged into the community. The more contributions we have to the site, the more a sense of community we will have and the better we will all be for it.

      • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:02PM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:02PM (#6884)

        Quality posting WILL eventually lure people in.

        Youtube videos? Not exactly a target rich environment. "Blitzwinger lets play: Troll soylent" "Hey guys look at this cute kitten video on Soylent" Yeah, good luck with that.

        Getting mentioned on 4chan? Maybe. Probably better than YT. Higher class clientele anyway.

        Getting mentioned on Reddit? That would definitely work. Just make sure its /R/Scala or /R/ECE not /R/Gonewild-grouchy-old-unix-beards (which probably exists...)

        Post something on G+ / FB / twitter? Maybe not. I bet grannie and auntie would love to hear all about Soylent.

        Having a post get quoted on stackexchange? That would work.

        Vaguely famous tech blogger or podcaster? That would work. Get this mentioned on TWIT or Linux Link Tech Show or retrocomputing roundup or whatever, that would work.

        But YT? Donno man.

      • (Score: 2) by kebes on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:20AM

        by kebes (1505) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:20AM (#7020)
        For the record, the entire SN team appears to be doing an excellent job. Getting the site up-and-running in such a short time is amazing. And the attitude of the admins seems very down-to-earth and open-minded. This is all great.

        I think a video contest is fun and will generate some enthusiasm. So that's great. If it pulls in some extra readers/commenters, that's even better.

        My only concern is that the title/phrasing ("What is SoylentNews?") almost seems like you consider the video contest to be a primary way of soliciting community feedback. I'm fine with it being one of many channel of feedback, as long as it doesn't eclipse the opinions of all the users who were not inclined to produce a video. I suspect this is exactly how you intend it; so it might just amount to reassuring the community about what's going.

        I think a consistent stream of 'meta' posts, where we all talk about the current state of SN, and where we want it to head, is fun, healthy, and productive. (And this certainly counts as one.) So far you guys have been doing that... so my comment is really just: keep up the good work, and keep up the dialogue.
      • (Score: 1) by goathack on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:35AM

        by goathack (1992) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:35AM (#7066)

        No, the discussion has not been lacking thus far. And that's a good thing, I hope to see it continue.

        I do think that a "promotion" will detract from the credibility and general quality of the site: it should grow organically, on its own merit, attracting those of like mindedness and disposition. And that happens by generating quality material and discussion, not by producing what I consider "fluff".

        Full disclosure: I'm a grumpy old guy. Lurking/occasional commenter on Slashdot since 1997, pretty much gave up on it around 2007.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by strattitarius on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:39PM

      by strattitarius (3191) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:39PM (#6915) Journal

      I am in agreement. I want text. I don't want a video. I have made some a few years back when youtube was new and I just bought a new digital videocam for when my kid was born. But I really have no interest in making a video. Not really in even watching them. Ever.

      I can't even remember the last time I watched an online video that was voluntary and not instructional (screencast). Or forced on me by wife (watch this dog!1!!).

      And this site has already hit on some good discussions! I have probably spent about as much time on here in the past two days as I did in the past week of /. (even if slashcott wasn't going on). So let's keep it up. We have already attracted many of the type of people I want to listen to and interact with... JUST KEEP IT UP!

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by MilanorTSW on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:41PM

    by MilanorTSW (3072) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:41PM (#6816)

    The fact that the winner is to be determined by views kind of makes lesser known media portals, such as MediaGoblin hubs, out of the league and makes for just one true choice really.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mth on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:41PM

    by mth (2848) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:41PM (#6818) Homepage

    I think SoylentNews is for people who like to read high-density textual information. Video is not the right medium to attract those people.

    Besides, the old slashcode is really bad. For example, it took me quite a while before I found the Reply button to post a top-level reply; I'd expect it at the bottom of the page since that is where the post will show up, instead it is lumped in with the filters. If you want to attract visitors who are not Slashdot veterans, it would be better to launch a publicity offensive after the UI has been cleaned up.

    • (Score: 1) by umafuckitt on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:31PM

      by umafuckitt (20) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @07:31PM (#6863)

      This. The UI needs to be fixed. There is even still boilerplate on the left below the links. The threaded discussion works rather poorly and is showing its age. I think the site should be kept simple and elegant; but "simple and elegant" doesn't equal clunky UI from 10 years ago. I really want this site to succeed, but it's not going to do so unless it offers a better product. In this regard, the packaging is as important as the content.

      • (Score: 1) by Daniel Dvorkin on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:42AM

        by Daniel Dvorkin (1099) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @01:42AM (#7044) Journal

        The threaded discussion works rather poorly and is showing its age. I think the site should be kept simple and elegant; but "simple and elegant" doesn't equal clunky UI from 10 years ago.

        Depends on what you mean by "UI". If you mean the code should be brought up to date so it works better, and the colors and element placement should be changed to make the site more attractive, I agree with you completely; Pipedot [pipedot.org] shows how good a Slashdot-style site with modern coding and design can be. But if you mean Soylent should get rid of the fundamental UI elements, such as the discussion system, that made Slashdot so great ... um, no, that's what drove us away from Slashdot, and why this site exists, in the first place.

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        • (Score: 1) by umafuckitt on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:55AM

          by umafuckitt (20) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:55AM (#7082)

          Sure, yes, I mean something more like Pipedot. Of course the discussion system should stay.

    • (Score: 2) by Open4D on Thursday February 27 2014, @04:07PM

      by Open4D (371) Subscriber Badge on Thursday February 27 2014, @04:07PM (#8030) Journal

      I think SoylentNews is for people who like to read high-density textual information. Video is not the right medium to attract those people.

      Well, certainly video is not the right medium to attract me. Generally, I'm not going to watch videos (unless there's a good reason text won't suffice), or make them.

      But, I don't necessarily begrudge them doing this promotion. It may be that enough existing or potential SN users do want to get involved in something like this.

       

      If you want to attract visitors who are not Slashdot veterans, it would be better to launch a publicity offensive after the UI has been cleaned up.

      This may be the killer argument, and even applies (to a lesser extent) to people who are Slashdot veterans.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by TWiTfan on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:52PM

    by TWiTfan (2428) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @06:52PM (#6830)

    Because I want to meet Burt Reynolds. And also Jerry Reed. And also three more wishes.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Aiwendil on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:19PM

    by Aiwendil (531) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @08:19PM (#6897) Journal

    Not even two weeks before managing to upset the userbase, I'm impressed ;)

    Seriously however, do the same kind of people that frequent soylent actually bother with social videosites?

    -From one with a strong preference for text

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Adrian Harvey on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:17PM

      by Adrian Harvey (222) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:17PM (#6947)

      Cut them a little slack - you're not forced to participate (cf: Beta). The site is quite new and if the idea flops, then it flops. No real harm done. The Other Site did all kinds of random things in the early days. I for one fondly remember the days of poll stuffing.

      To your serious question: I suspect that many are like me and don't use it as a social video site, but if told of or sent a link there for a particular video, (like, say, the elements song) would go and view it... And it would probably be the first site that popped into my head if I were to think "where could I publicly post a video for others to see and share"

      • (Score: 1) by Aiwendil on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:32PM

        by Aiwendil (531) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @12:32PM (#7249) Journal

        Was intended as a "tounge in cheek"-comment. But yeah, relying on smileys to convey intent hasn't been reliable for at least ten years, I should have written it within "<tounge-in-cheek>" instead

        I guess choice of wording was poor, with "social video site" I meant "any videosite that isn't primarily educational [TED et al]" but that would have been hard to put in with a more natural langauge.

        Personally I would think of a torrent-tracker as the first place to post a video to share (then again - I detest interactive sites and I figured I wasn't the only one)

        • (Score: 1) by Adrian Harvey on Wednesday February 26 2014, @10:54PM

          by Adrian Harvey (222) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @10:54PM (#7608)

          My brain didn't parse the punctuation as a mini-smiley, sorry....

          I would never have thought of using a torrent - I'm mostly mobile at the moment, so the peer to peer nature of torrents doesn't mix well with data charges...

    • (Score: 2) by evilviper on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:54AM

      by evilviper (1760) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @06:54AM (#7161) Homepage Journal

      Not even two weeks before managing to upset the userbase, I'm impressed ;)

      Don't be too hard on them, everyone's just forgetting (or wasn't around for) the early days of /. and all the rough patches, before everybody figured out what it was.

      Don't forget, CmdrTaco even threatened to disable user comments if people kept on being so darn rude:

      http://news.slashdot.org/story/98/01/08/093100/sla shdot-user-abuse [slashdot.org]

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  • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:30PM

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @09:30PM (#6955) Homepage Journal

    A signed hardcover copy of Nobots (you pay shipping; the winner pays postage when the book is delivered).

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Serial_Priest on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:23PM

    by Serial_Priest (2493) <accusingangelNO@SPAMautistici.org> on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:23PM (#6977)

    Video is a medium for conveying emotion and style. The whole reason people want to use a site like Soylent is to get away from the superficial, commercialized bullshit that is stinking up so much of the "normal" Internet (I'm looking at you, TED talks!) It's the wrong medium and it sends the wrong message.

    Personally, I'd much rather see a collection of plaintext contributions. Even if you ask us to answer the same questions that were suggested (why not let it more open ended?), have us do so with words. We come here to read, to think, and to participate, and not to be passively entertained.

    • (Score: 2) by lhsi on Wednesday February 26 2014, @09:35AM

      by lhsi (711) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @09:35AM (#7218) Journal

      I agree that video is a little weird for a choice of medium.

      How many people read /. (and now SN) at work? I think a recent lot of released statistics showed that people are more active during the week which supports this.

      Depending on the work place, it might not be possible/easy to watch a load of videos (my work computer doesn't have speakers for example). I guess it depends who the target for the videos is.

  • (Score: 1) by pixeldyne on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:29PM

    by pixeldyne (2637) on Tuesday February 25 2014, @10:29PM (#6980)

    Does Perl code count?

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Griz on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:05AM

    by Griz (3297) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @02:05AM (#7054)

    Soylent News is apparently run by spammers... Not cool setting daily spam as the default. Not providing an easy unsubscribe link in the spam and making me dig through your site to figure out how to unsubscribe is also pretty scummy.

    • (Score: 2) by evilviper on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:36AM

      by evilviper (1760) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @04:36AM (#7111) Homepage Journal

      That's what slash code has ALWAYS done. /. does the same, and I remember being as pissed off about it (many, many years ago), as you are now.

      All you can blame SoylentNews folks for is just not going out of their way to majorly modify slash to fix this longstanding misfeature.

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    • (Score: 1) by WalterWhite on Wednesday March 26 2014, @04:08AM

      by WalterWhite (3850) on Wednesday March 26 2014, @04:08AM (#21317)

      Did you find a way to unsubscribe? I can't. guess I'll just filter and delete it.

      Truly annoying and does not encourage me to come back.

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Appalbarry on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:04AM

    by Appalbarry (66) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @03:04AM (#7089) Journal

    Honestly, as someone running a real business I really don't have time to create a video. (Although I'll always suggest this one) [youtu.be]

    However, I'm totally pumped for the next contest, when we all create LOLcat images!

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by cloying on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:04AM

    by cloying (91) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:04AM (#7165)

    ...and I know its not me doing it so beggars can't be choosers. But this video concept is a car crash. Are the wrong people driving this train?

    I don't appear online in videos. Or as an image, or as me real name. Not anywhere. I don't have facebook. I don't twatter, or Google +, or instaidiot. I never will. I've always had the impression many slashdotters were in a similar boat. There is nothing to sell here, no popularity contest necessary. No likes.

    Its also such a banal concept. ..I like soylent news because....

    Please don't take this path of horror.

    I'd be delighted if this article is PPs'd with ok, due to feedback no key chain, no videos, no contest!

  • (Score: 2) by SMI on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:51AM

    by SMI (333) on Wednesday February 26 2014, @07:51AM (#7184)

    I would like to see articles and discussion about computer security, privacy, YRO, etc.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @11:23AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 26 2014, @11:23AM (#7232)

    This site starts to smell a little.