from the many-eyes-make-all-bugs-shallow-sort-of-thing dept.
Taco Cowboy writes:
"Yep, it's that ill-fated Boeing 777 with 239 on board which has disappeared without a trace. Even after 4 days of search by a fleet of over 50 vessels and 40+ planes and an increasing number of satellites, no one has yet find that plane, or any part of it.
If you have free time and want to help out, here's your chance.
A US satellite company is releasing high-def photos of the sea near or at the area where that plane was last tracked, in hoping that people can help finding clues in regarding the whereabout of that missing plane.
The link to that crowdsourcing event is at http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/352096/scitec h/socialmedia/us-based-satellite-imaging-company-crowdsources-search-for-missing-mh370-plane. The mapping can be viewed on the Tomnod site here."
[Ed's Note: I tried the Tomnod link 3 times and was only successful on 1 occasion. It seems they are having problems coping with the response.]
(Score: 5, Funny) by EvilJim on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:01AM
Don't worry everyone, Reddit will solve this one...no Reddit, that's a wave, no reddit, that's a whale, no reddit that's a car, you're not even fucking looking at the right site are you? FFS, no kittens are not a missing airplane! fuck! idiots.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @04:21AM
A bunch of birds. I wonder where they are going? I will share it on facebook
A cool swirly raincloud. It maybe heading in our direction. I better make sure I wear my jacket tomorrow and tell everyone else to do the same (posts message on facebook).
Whoa, what is that!!! Oh, it's just a plane wreck. Nothing to see here.
Neat, a big dolphin jumping really high out of the ocean. Everyone on Facebook will be thrilled!!!!!
So what was I looking for again? Oh, a plane wreck. Since I couldn't find it it's obviously not here.
(Score: 5, Funny) by useless on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:14AM
Plane not found.
(Score: 1) by Soruk on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:36PM
It's on another plane of existence.
(Score: 5, Informative) by frojack on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:30AM
Well the server is busy but Once you get in it works pretty well.
Took 4 attempts to register, but you don't even have to to do that just to look.
I've found several fishing boats (at least I think that is what they are).
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(Score: 4, Funny) by juggs on Wednesday March 12 2014, @04:09AM
Have you tried counting the number of green lentils in a can or those dried split red ones in a 1Kg bag? Both are slippery blighters to enumerate, going this way and that the minute you take your eye off them for a second - much like a convention of physicists / mathematicians / engineers / techies / what-have-yous. The second you have them corralled enough to begin the count, they each independently decide they've had a shattering breakthrough that needs work immediately and disperse the moment you glance away.
Times long past I'd have nodded along with the "herding cats blah" - but actually just please give me cats - I don't even care if they are some genetically re-engineered sabre toothed variety - counting a herd of those would be easier even with the risk of being eviscerated factored in.
I'm sure I intended to end this post with something witty but by my own mental imagery of trying to impart any kind of control or structure over a "convention of physicists / mathematicians / engineers / techies / what-have-yous" has left me in a very dark place, I may be mentally scarred for life.
(Score: 2) by TheLink on Wednesday March 12 2014, @10:23AM
Of course that won't directly promote usage of their service, but to me that seems the best way to scale out the search.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @05:02PM
Isn't this a goodwill PR stunt by them so use of their service isn't as important as getting the name out there? And with a torrent, they wouldn't kill their bandwidth either. However, it would probably require client software that they don't write overnight. Tags should update to all users and they also add new pictures all the time.
(Score: 0, Redundant) by rev_irreverence on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:36AM
I heard that the guys over at Reddit are already on top of this. I'm sure they will have this figured out in no time. Check the NY Post for the results in the morning.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by solozerk on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:46AM
... if they didn't try to harass you asking for registration every N images. Kinds of defeat the purpose, really.
That being said, their interface is pretty good. I do hope they have considered some sort of cross-correlation - IE, presenting the same images to several users and checking only those that have been confirmed by at least several people, because if they hit a critical mass of users (which appears to be the case now), then they'll inevitably have some trolls tagging non-existent stuff or, worse, the reverse: not tagging wreckage.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by captain normal on Wednesday March 12 2014, @04:25AM
Well yeah it seems that is exactly what they are doing. Only problem I see is that they feed random rectangles of ocean from a fixed zoom (on my laptop .5 inch = 100 feet). The rectangle is 8" X 5.5". You can't zoom in to see if that apx. 3 meter spot is something other than a part of a wind wave or a dirt spot on my screen.
When life isn't going right, go left.
(Score: 2) by buswolley on Wednesday March 12 2014, @04:24AM
Scratching on the blue
subicular junctures
(Score: 5, Informative) by Thesis on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:15AM
It seems a person on an oil rig may have witnessed the crash, or the events leading to it. This was posted by an asia-pacific correspondent. It give a clue to the possible location of the crash.
http://twitpic.com/dy1qmm [twitpic.com]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:45AM
Interesting.
If not a hoax, that's somewhat off course.
10-15 seconds of burn is pretty short, it would take longer to burn a whole plane load of fuel.
I've seen flameout footage that lasted that long before the pilot got a restart.
With a total electrical bus failure, (from what ever reason) you might not get a restart
if your pumps went off line. That might explain why ALL signals were lost at once.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by gottabeme on Wednesday March 12 2014, @01:11PM
If a wing were to break off at the root or at the engine pylon, perhaps the fuel in the remaining part of the wing would burn that long if it caught fire.
(Score: 4, Informative) by bucc5062 on Wednesday March 12 2014, @11:11AM
When you plug in the coordinates into google maps it does put a point off the coast of Vietnam.
8°22'30.23"N 108°42'22.26"E
The description of the (object)'s direction was such that it could have been traveling towards Malaysia which would support a turn around action. It also factors in the observation of it being on the west side of Malaysia at one point.
However, there is no real time frame for the observation. I see a timestamp at the top, but not something that says and I saw this at o'clock so people could verify the sighting. In the end this would not be hard to dispute if a hoax and good information if true.
If an engine was on fire it would not take long to put it out so the time frame would fit. The idea that a complete electrical failure occurred thus rendering communications inop seems very unlikely. Even if a "main bus" went out either a back up system would take over basic flight controls or, with a still flying airplane the pilots would do anything possible to communicate including cell phones of passengers. Then like everyone else, it is easy to guess, harder to wait for facts.
The more things change, the more they look the same
(Score: 2) by Angry Jesus on Wednesday March 12 2014, @01:57PM
> The idea that a complete electrical failure occurred thus rendering communications inop seems very unlikely.
However, it could have simply been bad conditions for radio communication and the pilots were unable to establish contact before crashing.
In support of this theory is a report that vietnamese air control had to ask another plane to relay a message to the now missing plane [nst.com.my] and even that contact had a lot of interference.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:08PM
An Air India 777 had to return yesterday because their transponder stopped working almost immediately after take-off. They were still within VHF range so it wasn't a big deal - they just had to dump a lot of fuel to get to maximum landing weight. Small incidents like that happen all the time and are only posted on forums like pprune (which I read too much at the moment). Ironically, Boeing benefits from all the attention being paid to this 777 disappearance since CNN barely mentioned yet another Nightm...Dreamliner emergency landing (in Hawaii due to an engine failure) and that would've been a much bigger deal otherwise.
However, it's easy to be wise on the ground when something happens in the air. First of all the rule is 1. aviate, 2. navigate 3. communicate. They might have thought that they have a communication problem and some minor other malfunction and decided to turn around and try communicating over VHF as soon as they're within range. If they had the sort of "handle it without bothering anyone, if possible" attitude as the crew of Swissair 111, it would be a very plausible scenario. The Swissair crew much downplayed the severity of their situation in all communications and instead of landing their burning plane overweight, opted to dump fuel, prepare the cabin etc. and then suddenly it was too late. The flightpath after their (MH370) turn, however, would've enabled them to communicate over VHF later and the only reason for that that I can think of, is slow onset of hypoxia. In any hijacking scenario at least some passengers would've tried using their phones. Unless half the people on board were hijackers, there's no way they could've stopped sms typing. People have sent sms whilst being fired at in all sorts of incidents (like the mass shooting in Norway) and once you've typed it in, your phone will keep trying to send it until it succeeds or runs out of battery.
I think a pilot suicide can also be ruled out by now since why would a suicidal pilot that has locked the other one out of the cockpit bother with turning off the transponder and flying for hours instead of crashing it then and there? And any pilot being locked out from the cockpit would definitely be able to break the door (with assistance) fairly quickly.
(Score: 2) by bucc5062 on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:17PM
Damn you for planting the seed to look at that forum. As an inactive pilot (for many years) I still like to keep in touch. To find such a site may be the end of me. /humor
They got some wild ideas going on over there for sure.
The more things change, the more they look the same
(Score: 1) by cmdrk on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:32AM
Boat? Wreckage? What do you guys think?
(Score: 1) by cmdrk on Wednesday March 12 2014, @06:34AM
D'oh. That's what I get for not using preview.
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar 2014/map/21651 [tomnod.com]
(Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:21AM
Seems impossible to get to that exact square without a bit of jumping around.
Finally got it, and it does look like a swamped boat.
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(Score: 1) by isostatic on Wednesday March 12 2014, @11:32PM
[tomnod.com]
Boat? Wreckage? What do you guys think?
I think you've found it! Your link is in the same place as the plane!
(Score: 5, Funny) by wonkey_monkey on Wednesday March 12 2014, @08:54AM
Really? You start a story about a missing plane with "yep"?
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday March 12 2014, @03:19PM
The people aren't dead, they've just been transported to the future. See the movie "Millenium" for details. The only problem is that the future people screwed up and didn't send the plane back with mannequins to crash like it was supposed to, so now they've altered the timeline.
(Score: 2, Funny) by tomato666 on Wednesday March 12 2014, @07:47PM
Nonsense
The survivors are in the lush jungle being chased by a polar bear and some strange smoke.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday March 12 2014, @09:45PM
No. If you subscribe to that theory, you've left out an important part: they really are dead, and their spirits are in some kind of purgatory living temporary lives there until they proceed to the next step of the afterlife.
(Score: 1) by el_oscuro on Thursday March 13 2014, @12:16AM
It could also be in the past like in The Langoliers. Just 15 minutes in the past, but that world is used up an over, They have to get back to the present through the time rip before they get cleaned up by The Langoliers. If the plane mysteriously appears in LAX with no apparent landing, we will know what happened.
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