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posted by LaminatorX on Sunday April 13 2014, @07:18AM   Printer-friendly
from the Tell-us-how-you-really-feel dept.

http://torrentfreak.com/39-of-film-industry-profes sionals-are-movie-tv-show-pirates-140412/

A survey of professionals in the film industry were asked what they thought of piracy and how it affected their business. In general those with lower budgets thought it had less of a negative effect, or a positive one.

The surveyor also attempted to find out how many downloaded films and TV shows illegally, without directly asking.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by AliasMarlowe on Sunday April 13 2014, @07:46AM

    by AliasMarlowe (4103) on Sunday April 13 2014, @07:46AM (#30718)

    Some error bars would be nice on those figures.

    A total of 1235 persons were surveyed, divided into 6 groups. That's about 200 per typical group. For the "illegal download" trick question, these groups were further divided into two sub-groups (each asked their agreement with a different set of questions), so it's about 100 per sub-group, with subtraction of the sub-group answer totals. It seems to me that the uncertainty bars would be fairly high, especially for the smaller groups.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Fluffeh on Sunday April 13 2014, @08:29AM

      by Fluffeh (954) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 13 2014, @08:29AM (#30721) Journal

      And at the same time, I would wager that a lot of the folks in the industry were too scared to click on the answers closest to the truth - no matter the assurances of the "anonymous" nature of this study.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @09:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @09:18AM (#30725)

        Why be scared? If they lose their jobs, they still have their Obamacare, right??

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @09:28AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @09:28AM (#30727)

          Healthcare doesnt include the money for food, and foodstamps are something that continue to get cut.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @02:40PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @02:40PM (#30770)

          Having access to a healthcare plan thought up by the Heritage Institute, a statist right wing think tank, first tried by the Republicans in the early 90s (when the Dems were pushing single payer healthcare under Clinton) doesn't exactly leave you out of need of employment.

          Obamacare is a disaster. But trying to force it into the same disaster as "omg liberals love free shit" just doesn't quite fit. Much more to do with the marriage of corporations and politics than anything else going on here, and neither party is immune on that front.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by opinionated_science on Sunday April 13 2014, @01:48PM

      by opinionated_science (4031) on Sunday April 13 2014, @01:48PM (#30760)

      Error bars can't help this study, it is pretty much subjective opinion.

      The fact is the business model is of an artificially restricted supply, and there doesn't seem to be a rational way of measuring "how much is enough?".

      The attempts to have draconian policies implemented for "perceived infringements", appears their desperation to essentially trying to prop-up demand.

      If it became legal to get a partial refund if you didn't like a movie in a theatre, I might have more sympathy for the movie companies..

      If it became possible to get a partial refund if you buy music that turns out uninspiring, I might have more sympathy for the music companies...

      I think that there is a saturation of the media market, but it has become so fragmented the media companies are simply unwilling to get many smaller profits rather than one big one.

      Still not my problem...!

      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by dotdotdot on Sunday April 13 2014, @02:06PM

        by dotdotdot (858) on Sunday April 13 2014, @02:06PM (#30763)

        Exactly! What's the difference between Hollywood Accounting [wikipedia.org] and piracy other than the former being outright theft? I might be more sympathetic if they stopped playing those kinds of games.

        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday April 13 2014, @05:34PM

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday April 13 2014, @05:34PM (#30802) Journal

          The difference is that Hollywood accounting gives you money to pay expensive lawyers with. Few lawyers will represent you in return of a few pirated movies.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by FuckBeta on Sunday April 13 2014, @01:09PM

    by FuckBeta (1504) on Sunday April 13 2014, @01:09PM (#30750) Homepage

    What do people in the film industry think about murder and robbery on the high seas?
    Didn't they put out a film about that only last year?

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Tork on Sunday April 13 2014, @05:42PM

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 13 2014, @05:42PM (#30807)
    I work in the film industry and I firmly don't believe piracy has any real affect on profit. I doubt my clients would agree with that, and that's fine, but of all the people I know that have downloaded stuff only one has told me he did it to save money. One of the movies I worked on broke records for how much it was pirated. And you know what? That didn't bother me one bit. You know what DID bother me, like seriously-fear-for-my-job bother me? It was when I came across a story on Slashdot about a popular movie on DVD that failed to play on some players because they attempted a new type of copy restriction. An easy way to lose a ton of customers real fast is to give them reason to think that new DVDs won't work on their player.

    I wish they'd pull back on worrying about piracy. On several occasions I've been in a theater where, just after twenty minutes of trailers and ads, they spent another minute telling us how evil downloading movies is. Of course that led to some of the people in the audience saying "wait.. you can download movies on-line?" Real smart.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @07:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 13 2014, @07:19PM (#30852)

      a popular movie on DVD that failed to play on some players because they attempted a new type of copy restriction

      Hmmm. I wonder if that would have worked better on a non-EULAware OS. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [wordpress.com]

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    • (Score: 2) by Rivenaleem on Monday April 14 2014, @12:24PM

      by Rivenaleem (3400) on Monday April 14 2014, @12:24PM (#31255)

      And you wouldn't have had to pay to sit through adds!

  • (Score: 1) by cafebabe on Sunday April 13 2014, @10:47PM

    by cafebabe (894) on Sunday April 13 2014, @10:47PM (#31025) Journal

    My ex-colleagues justified their piracy as "research". Downloading the latest action film? Research. A film you worked on? Research. The first series of Friends? Research. An obscure French Noir film? Research. Porn? Research. In fact, any download, for enjoyment or otherwise was for "research" as if being an industry insider came with a copyright exemption and very few of my ex-colleagues joined me for cinema trips. I've rarely seen such a sense of entitlement or hypocrisy.

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