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posted by takyon on Sunday April 26 2015, @11:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the cold-cyberwar dept.

From Ars Technica:

On Saturday the New York Times reported that "senior American officials briefed on the investigation" confirmed a hack of the White House's unclassified network last year. The breach "was far more intrusive and worrisome than has been publicly acknowledged," officials said, telling the Times that the perpetrators were likely Russians with ties to the government, if not with direct backing from Russia.

The White House's classified network, on which message traffic from President Obama's Blackberry is kept, was not breached, but e-mails he sent to the unclassified network from that device (as well as e-mails sent from that network to him) were obtained.

The Times noted that many senior staffers have two computers in their offices: "one operating on a highly secure classified network and another connected to the outside world for unclassified communications." The most highly secure material shared between "the White House, the State Department, the Pentagon, and intelligence communities" is kept on a system called Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS), which was not breached. JWICS also gives access to the front-end for XKeyscore, a system that collects, manages, and processes the massive amounts of data collected by the NSA.

The White House discovered the breach in October 2014 and partially shut down the unclassified e-mail system until the end of the month when system administrators were sure that the hackers no longer had access to the system.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday April 26 2015, @11:40PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday April 26 2015, @11:40PM (#175528) Homepage

    Most of us will think when reading this, "Bullshit! It was the NSA or Mossad or somebody else, if it even really happened, trying to get more drums of war propaganda beating against Russia."

    The sad thing is that Russia may actually be doing that, but the American leadership has lost so much credibility in the eyes of Americans that they are not to be believed. Look at any American mainstream media -- "All Russians are evil!" "ALL Iranians are evil!" "Terror!" Refusing to separate a state's people from the actions and attitudes of their often-insane governments.

    Then look at something like RT, where along with some form of light-hearted posturing there are plenty of appeals to common Americans and along with those the implicit recognition that those common Americans are dissatisfied with their government and not representative of their warmongering Government's Official Point of View.

    • (Score: 2) by Geotti on Monday April 27 2015, @12:38AM

      by Geotti (1146) on Monday April 27 2015, @12:38AM (#175537) Journal

      Every intelligence agency is doing it. (Except for Finland.) It's not that it's hard to get access to a computer system...

      • (Score: 0, Spam) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday April 27 2015, @02:38AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday April 27 2015, @02:38AM (#175558) Homepage

        This Is what the awesomeness is. [youtube.com]

        Fuck You all! Hahahahahah! FUCK YEAH!! AAAAAAUGGGGHHHHHH!

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Gravis on Monday April 27 2015, @02:45AM

        by Gravis (4596) on Monday April 27 2015, @02:45AM (#175560)

        Every intelligence agency is doing it. (Except for Finland.) It's not that it's hard to get access to a computer system...

        props to Finland's agency for not being asshats. i really wish these clowns was stop focusing on hacking each other and focus on securing everyone.

      • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday April 27 2015, @05:43PM

        by Freeman (732) on Monday April 27 2015, @05:43PM (#175777) Journal

        Are they not doing it? Or have they just not been caught?

        --
        Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @01:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @01:05AM (#175544)

      American mainstream media AKA the "news networks" are so biased and racist that I turn to BBC news. I am so sick of the news about all the poor innocent black people on the way to bible study getting hurt by police. All they're after is ratings, it's not news anymore.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 27 2015, @03:22AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 27 2015, @03:22AM (#175567) Journal

        No points for you. Although the mainstream media invariably fastens on the wrong poster boys - there really is a serious problem here, with the cops out of control, and basically answering to no one.

        The guy in Baltimore was killed for running from the cops. They had no reason to chase him, other than he was running. It's not even clear WHY he was running. In effect, it was "That nigga's running, let's take him down!"

        Two young black men were killed in Ohio, for no other reason than being black. One wasn't even a man yet, Tamir Rice, twelve years old, playing alone in the park with a toy gun. Cops didn't make any attempt to defuse a situation that didn't even exist - they drove up and gunned him down. Twelve years old. Another, John Crawfor, was shopping for toys among other things, and was gunned down for carrying a pellet gun that he picked up off of a Walmart shelf.

        Other people are gunned down for equally stupid reasons, but the black community bears the brunt of this nonsense.

        That said - I despise MSM for making a martyr of that sick son of a bitch, Michael Brown, in St. Louis. That one needed to be gunned down. He got exactly what he was looking for.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:33PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:33PM (#175776)

          If he didn't run, he would be alive today. But no, he had to act like a thug and got what he deserved. I have a feeling this is going to happen more often, idiots thinking they can become famous by evading cops even if they didn't do anything wrong.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:39PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:39PM (#176110) Journal

            Fleeing and evading should never have become felonies, in and of themselves. Fleeing, evading, and eluding cops should be nothing more than a misdemeanor, and a circumstance to consider during a trial for a real felony.

            If a cop wants to talk to me, it is NOT MY DUTY to cooperate with him. I can run, hide, whatever, with or without good reason for doing so. Fact is - I HAVE run from the cops. It's thrilling. There are few adrenalin rushes greater than blowing past a cop going faster than his cruiser can possibly go. Two-wheeled thunder - and I don't mean any Harley Davidson. I've never witnessed a Harley running over 100 mph, let alone the speeds necessary to outrun a police cruiser.

            You think it's just fine and dandy that a cop should be permitted to gun me down for driving faster than he can? Is that what you really think?

            Well, I hope you enjoy the police state that is coming, because that is what you are justifying.

        • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Tuesday April 28 2015, @01:01PM

          by urza9814 (3954) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @01:01PM (#176039) Journal

          That said - I despise MSM for making a martyr of that sick son of a bitch, Michael Brown, in St. Louis. That one needed to be gunned down. He got exactly what he was looking for.

          Based on what, exactly? The only evidence I've heard against him was that he robbed a store -- and the owner of that store has stated in interviews that *he was never robbed*!

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:33PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:33PM (#176105) Journal

            Somehow - Brown got halfway through the window of the police cruiser. Now - you can believe, if you like, that the cop PULLED Brown into the cruiser, so that he could shoot Brown. But, the idea is so preposterous that I won't even entertain the idea. What happened was, Brown DOVE through that window, and tried to subdue the cop, tried to take the cop's gun. When the gun went off, Brown ran. After several steps running, Brown turned around, and instead of conforming to the cop's demands, he RAN BACK AT THE COP!!

            Oh, the store owner says he was never robbed? Then, WTF did he file a police report? WHY DID HE CALL THE COPS?!?!?!

            Someone is smoking some baaaad, baaaad, BAAAAAAAAAAAD shit here - and it ain't me.

            • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Tuesday April 28 2015, @05:01PM

              by urza9814 (3954) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @05:01PM (#176151) Journal

              Oh, the store owner says he was never robbed? Then, WTF did he file a police report? WHY DID HE CALL THE COPS?!?!?!

              He didn't. A customer called the cops to report they *thought* they saw someone shoplifting. Just like so many of the others...

              Somehow - Brown got halfway through the window of the police cruiser. Now - you can believe, if you like, that the cop PULLED Brown into the cruiser, so that he could shoot Brown. But, the idea is so preposterous that I won't even entertain the idea. What happened was, Brown DOVE through that window, and tried to subdue the cop, tried to take the cop's gun. When the gun went off, Brown ran. After several steps running, Brown turned around, and instead of conforming to the cop's demands, he RAN BACK AT THE COP!!

              Even if all of that is true, it still does not warrant extrajudicial execution after the fact. If he had been killed hanging out the cop car window I'd say you might have a point, but he wasn't. Wilson had plenty of other options. On the other hand, officer Wilson justifies the killing by saying that he began firing at Brown when Brown was 15 feet away. He claims Brown was "charging" towards him until he stopped firing. We have audio recordings of those shots showing that Wilson fired ten shots over 6.5 seconds. So Brown was apparently "charging" at 1-2MPH? "Charging" at half the speed of a painfully slow walk? Also remember that they didn't even call an ambulance after he was shot....

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by isostatic on Monday April 27 2015, @05:22AM

      by isostatic (365) on Monday April 27 2015, @05:22AM (#175587) Journal

      I forget, which one is bad this week, the Iranian backed Syrian government, or the Saudi backed rebels?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 27 2015, @05:24PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday April 27 2015, @05:24PM (#175773) Journal

      Clearly the Russians have kidanpped Ethanol and replaced him with some sort of agent provocatuer.
       
      We're onto you though, post was way too coherent.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:12AM (#175553)

    "So-and-so has the Clippers in the NBA finals? GTFO!"

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by CirclesInSand on Monday April 27 2015, @05:32AM

    by CirclesInSand (2899) on Monday April 27 2015, @05:32AM (#175591)

    This is actually a very serious threat to our security. If foreign agents read our presidential emails, then they might start to notice a major flaw in American security: we only elect idiots to be president. We have to keep this a secret.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @10:17AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @10:17AM (#175635)

      Now you posted that secret to a public forum! Better leave quickly, before the SWAT team arrives!

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 27 2015, @05:35AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 27 2015, @05:35AM (#175592) Journal
    Is NSA still relevant for the "security" part in their title?
    (point: if they were busy with intercepting and/or breaking into foreign computers, then no, they weren't doing their primary job. Is USofA more secure with NSA acting like hackers?).
    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by captain normal on Monday April 27 2015, @06:52AM

    by captain normal (2205) on Monday April 27 2015, @06:52AM (#175602)

    If Russia releases Obama's unclassified emails, then the NSA will release Putin's emails. Now those would be a lot more embarrassing to the Russian public than the release of Obama's emails to the US public.

    --
    Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts"- --Daniel Patrick Moynihan--
    • (Score: 2) by Geotti on Monday April 27 2015, @08:49PM

      by Geotti (1146) on Monday April 27 2015, @08:49PM (#175859) Journal

      I'm actually not so sure that the NSA (or anyone else for that matter) is capable of breaking GOST (with properly selected S-boxes) and/or more advanced ciphers...

      But certainly there's still enough embarrassing information available to both sides to retaliate.

      • (Score: 2) by CirclesInSand on Tuesday April 28 2015, @01:03AM

        by CirclesInSand (2899) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @01:03AM (#175915)

        If you are trying to break a cipher with math, then you are doing it the hard way. Try using hookers. It worked on David Patraeus anyway.

  • (Score: 2) by kadal on Monday April 27 2015, @02:29PM

    by kadal (4731) on Monday April 27 2015, @02:29PM (#175718)

    Why is this stuff not encrypted?