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from the head-in-the-cloud dept.

MS Releases "Visual Studio Code" - a Slim Cross Platform Code Editor

Microsoft appears like they may actually be starting to get serious about cross platform support. Their new slim code editor for developing cloud applications supports both OS X and Linux, as well as Windows.

At its Build developer conference, Microsoft today announced the launch of Visual Studio Code, a lightweight cross-platform code editor for writing modern web and cloud applications that will run on OS X, Linux and Windows. The application is still officially in preview, but you can now download it here (if this link isn’t live yet, give it a few more minutes and then try again).

This marks the first time that Microsoft offers developers a true cross-platform code editor. The full Visual Studio is still Windows-only, but today’s announcement shows the company’s commitment to supporting other platforms.

From the Techcrunch article:

Today’s announcement will surely come as a surprise to many. It does, however, fit in well with the direction the company’s developer group has been on for quite a while now, be that the open sourcing of .NET Core (and taking that platform cross-platform) or the launch of the free Visual Studio Community edition.

Another Publicity Stunt from MSFT: "Visual Studio Code"

Roy Schestowitz at TechRights reports "Visual Studio Code": Not News, Not Free, Not Open Source

Another publicity stunt from Microsoft, this time going under the name "Visual Studio Code", which is basically proprietary lock-in

Despite an openwashing campaign and an effort to deceive the public (as chronicled here before), Visual Studio is (and will remain) proprietary. There is currently yet another PR blitz from Microsoft, which at the moment is trying to openwash it and pretend that it's "news" (it's not, it goes back to last year).

Sadly, some FOSS proponents have already fallen for it and Phoronix is doing marketing for Microsoft. This is not really news and it's not even a surprise. It's just some publicity stunt which got Microsoft boosters and Microsoft-friendly sites on board.

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The Microsoft Build Developer Conference 2015, or Build 2015, runs from April 29th to May 1st. Already, many surprises have been revealed:

We got Android apps running on Windows. A Microsoft IDE running on Linux. .NET ported to Linux, too. Support for Objective C, the language that only Apple and NeXT has ever really used. Support for Google and Apple APIs - in fact, just carry on writing for Google and Apple. Wild, untamed Win32 binaries scaling the ramparts of the Microsoft Store. Phones turning into proper PCs when you plug them into a monitor and keyboard.

Rumors of Android apps running on Windows 10 turned out to be mostly true; Windows 10 will include an "Android subsystem" and many Android APIs to allow app code to be easily reused by developers, but Android apps won't automatically run on the OS. "[Project] Astoria also provides Java developers with hooks to Windows APIs that aren't present on Google's platform." In addition, Microsoft is courting iOS developers:

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bart9h on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:18PM

    by bart9h (767) on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:18PM (#177263)

    but no, thanks.

  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:22PM (#177265)

    Just like every other self-absorbed hipster.

    God bless the Holy Ghost of Steve Jobs! AMEN.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:48PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:48PM (#177274) Homepage

      Fuck you all, I'm totally gonna try it -- It looks rad. Frothy semen-crusted Linux troglodytes text-editing source files or otherwise developing with 60's-era techniques please kindly drag yourselves kicking and screaming into modernhood. Get of your circle-jerk and give Microsoft a chance -- they kicked Ballmer the fuck out, didn't they? They did it just for you, because they were listening. Because they care.

      Good day, sir.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:54PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:54PM (#177280) Journal

        He said, Good day!

        signed... a linux troglodyte.

        Because they care.

        Holy shit snacks.... they care?!?! Maybe. I. Am. Wrong.

        :)

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by TGV on Friday May 01 2015, @05:40AM

        by TGV (2838) on Friday May 01 2015, @05:40AM (#177374)

        I tried it, and it is lacking for my work flow. I tried to edit some TypeScript files, and sure, it has autocompletion and a decent syntax check for that, and it can jump to a symbols definition, but that's all. The editor lacks other kinds of navigation tools, from finding the corresponding bracket to navigating inside a class definition. I couldn't get the debugger to run, since I'm on OSX and it required Mono 3.1 or up (bit odd for a TypeScript project, but there you go). So they should either put some effort in refining the editor, or add their changes to the OSS project and hope for the best.

        • (Score: 2) by microtodd on Friday May 01 2015, @12:26PM

          by microtodd (1866) on Friday May 01 2015, @12:26PM (#177438) Homepage Journal

          Agreed. On a Mac here. I downloaded and gave it a fair shot. Within seconds I already recognized it didn't have what all I needed.

          No code block collapsing.

          No jump-to-matching brace.

          No regex find or find/replace.

          I feel like this wouldn't be very useful for any professional-level, or even advanced hobbyist developers. But I notice it has github integration built in. I guess they're aiming for a specific market, which isn't me.

          • (Score: 2) by TGV on Friday May 01 2015, @12:37PM

            by TGV (2838) on Friday May 01 2015, @12:37PM (#177440)

            Regexp it does have. You have to click on the icon .* next to the search pattern. Find-replace is accessible by clicking on the triangle to the left of the search pattern. Really flat, modern design. Sarcasm aside, it's not hard to get used to, and it takes less space than the bulky dialogs of yesteryear that hid most of the code you were looking for. But Netbeans, XCode, VS, or emacs it ain't.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Gaaark on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:27PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:27PM (#177267) Journal

    and so the sh*t continues:

    same old, same old.

    Will never suck that motha's milk anymore.

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    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:33PM (#177268)

      It was father's milk.

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by Gaaark on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:57PM

        by Gaaark (41) on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:57PM (#177281) Journal

        I thought that cow looked funny...

        I thought: 'that cow only has one teat! Huh!'

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    • (Score: 2) by Common Joe on Sunday May 03 2015, @02:35AM

      by Common Joe (33) Subscriber Badge <common.joe.0101NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday May 03 2015, @02:35AM (#178013) Journal

      Glad i'm off the MS teat

      and so the sh*t continues: same old, same old.

      I wish it were that easy. As a business programmer, where do I turn to earn money if not Microsoft? Web house-of-cards development? Oracle-led Java? Write once and then again C++? Proprietary lock-in Apple? Smartphone software that becomes obsolete in less than a year?

      You're right about it being the "same shit continues", but all I find all the milk sour no matter which teat I try to drink from.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mtrycz on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:41PM

    by mtrycz (60) on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:41PM (#177271)

    I'm not a MS fanboy, but let me play the devils advocatehere. The article thats calling out that this is not news also claims that it's "not free, not open source".

    Now, I think it's ok for anyone to build programs and give them for free, and it's their choice to open it up or not. (unless it's spyware, obv)

    But in what sense it's "not free"? What are the details of "lock-in" the author is claming? Isn't it just an editor? I'm all aware of lock-in and try my best to avoid it (collegues at work are giving a go to Google APIs, because "it gets the job done". facepalm)

    If we're going to hate on Microsoft, let's do it for relevant reasons.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:50PM (#177276)

      Microsoft has been openly antagonistic and is known for having punitive licensing or dropping support for a product. They are essentially what Google is aspiring towards.

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @10:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @10:33PM (#177293)

      Now, I think it's ok for anyone to build programs and give them for free, and it's their choice to open it up or not. (unless it's spyware, obv)

      And thanks to the way this company spoons with the NSA, we can be super-duper ultra-confident that there won't be any code in this compiler that injects a backdoor into any application you're thinking of creating with it.

      ( cf. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TheKenThompsonHack [c2.com] )

      • (Score: 2) by mtrycz on Friday May 01 2015, @09:31AM

        by mtrycz (60) on Friday May 01 2015, @09:31AM (#177414)

        Oh yeah, I love "trusting trust". The insight it gave me the first time I read it was what hooked me up to security problems.

        Anyway it looks like it's an editor, not an IDE, and it comes without a compiler. So unless it can scramble your sources in some stealthy indetectable ways (it can't), it should be safe for that.

        The only problem I could see with it is that they make a great product that everybody ends up using and THEN they start to lock you in. But it's not a necessary outcome; we'll see.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Nuke on Friday May 01 2015, @11:59AM

        by Nuke (3162) on Friday May 01 2015, @11:59AM (#177428)

        It isn't a compiler.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:30PM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:30PM (#177313) Journal

      If we're going to hate on Microsoft, let's do it for relevant reasons.

      Isn't that any and all of them? Once an organization has become pure evil, there no longer are any irrelevant reasons to oppose it. I think Microsoft has completely underestimated the bad will their past practices have generated, bad will that no amount of "openwashing" will be able to remove.

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by frojack on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:43PM

      by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:43PM (#177318) Journal

      Well, I installed it, but as editors go, its pretty lame and limited.

      Untruths found in TFS Above:

      Its not free. Truth: It is free - as in beer.
      Its a lock in. Truth: there is no lock in.

      Its a stand alone editor, not a particularly intuitive one, not better than anything that comes free on Linux.
      See the basics without having to install it: https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs/codebasics [visualstudio.com]

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      • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Friday May 01 2015, @05:54AM

        by dyingtolive (952) on Friday May 01 2015, @05:54AM (#177377)

        That's disappointing. I have no love for MS, but I saw this and had hoped it would be something noteworthy.

        As a confession, I've made things in C# before and kind of liked it. I mean, now, I use almost exclusively python and java, but it's just an editor? Not a compiler too? It looks like it depends on mono, is that right?

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      • (Score: 1) by mtrycz on Friday May 01 2015, @09:26AM

        by mtrycz (60) on Friday May 01 2015, @09:26AM (#177413)

        So the message here is "here, have this half-assed editor and see how much open we are?".

        Thanks for the insights. I was about to give it a try, but I have more important things to do now.

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        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Friday May 01 2015, @11:11AM

          by frojack (1554) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 01 2015, @11:11AM (#177423) Journal

          Yeah, pretty much any editor is at least as good or better. I uninstalled it.

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Nuke on Friday May 01 2015, @12:01PM

            by Nuke (3162) on Friday May 01 2015, @12:01PM (#177429)

            But isn't this exactly what the world needs - another editor?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:45PM (#177273)

    ......for the Year of Linux on the Business Desktop.... any year now.......

    • (Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Friday May 01 2015, @07:57AM

      by Magic Oddball (3847) on Friday May 01 2015, @07:57AM (#177393) Journal

      Hmm... If the systemd people get tired of Linus Torvalds not playing along with their vision of the future and simply replace his kernel in RedHat/Fedora with a systemd-integrated one (with other distros continuing to follow along), will the dream then be the Year Of The Systemd Laptop?

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @09:54PM (#177279)

    No no no no no! Visual Studio is too easy to use! How will elitist unwashed coders stay elite if manicured morons find out that coders are just typists with delusions of grandeur?!

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Thursday April 30 2015, @10:24PM

    by PizzaRollPlinkett (4512) on Thursday April 30 2015, @10:24PM (#177288)

    Someone ought to make a list of all the IDEs that have launched and been abandoned some time. I'm not trying to make an argument for or against them, but Emacs has basically been the same since day one. You can boot up ITS in an emulator and run Emacs and basically use your muscle memory to drive it. I've seen too many IDEs come and go to trade my muscle-memory productivity with Emacs for some new IDE that will join Visual Age, J Builder, all those WordStar-diamond DOS IDEs, all the old versions of Visual C++ and Visual Studio (which aren't too compatible with today's VS), and so on in the tar pit.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @10:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @10:36PM (#177296)

      If your muscle memory for keyboard shortcuts seriously affects your productivity, you're playing with your editor too much and working too little. Try writing some actual code some time.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:29PM (#177312)

        On top of that it asks you what shortcut keys you want when you first install it. I prefer the vc6 shortcuts :)

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by gnuman on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:44PM

      by gnuman (5013) on Thursday April 30 2015, @11:44PM (#177319)

      Someone ought to make a list of all the IDEs that have launched and been abandoned some time

      There is basically 2 good IDEs out there. Qt Creator and Eclipse. Some may also count Netbeans.

      For your list, look here, although this is not exactly abandoned stuff,

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 2) by tonyPick on Friday May 01 2015, @06:18AM

        by tonyPick (1237) on Friday May 01 2015, @06:18AM (#177382) Homepage Journal

        What, No love for Code::Blocks [codeblocks.org]? (I'd say the 3rd good IDE)

        I do like QtCreator, but it's not so good over remote X sessions, which is where C::B wins out...

        • (Score: 1) by HyperQuantum on Friday May 01 2015, @10:49AM

          by HyperQuantum (2673) on Friday May 01 2015, @10:49AM (#177420)

          I recently switched from Code::Blocks to Qt Creator. And the latter is giving me a much better experience.

          There was one really annoying bug that made Code::Blocks difficult to use for me: it was always freezing every couple of seconds everytime I typed in some source files. First it were only the files containing a "main" function, but then I discovered it had the same problem with a new header file that contained only some enum declarations. I looked for a possible fix online, and it seemed like the bug was probably fixed in their SVN. But there was no (easy) way for me to get that fix; no indication of a new Code::Blocks release in the future (and its last release was in December, 2013, which seems like ages ago), and installing a nightly build would be cumbersome. Seriously, why does a mature open-source project like Code::Blocks not have an easy to find roadmap for future releases?

          And there were some other annoyances as well. Intellisense in Code::Blocks seemed really dumb to me, it showed way too many suggestions during auto-completion, even things that didn't make sense. It gave the impression that it didn't really understand C++.

          Really, Qt Creator is a hundred times better than Code::Blocks in my experience.

          • (Score: 2) by tonyPick on Saturday May 02 2015, @08:18AM

            by tonyPick (1237) on Saturday May 02 2015, @08:18AM (#177814) Homepage Journal

            I'd agree that for local machine usage Qt Creator is a much nicer experience, and the parser spike when you open files is something I've seen in C::B as well.

            However the killer is the remote performance - Qt Creator is basically unusable over remote X - it's painfully slow and laggy, and that's a very common use case around the places I work (think build servers and VM's with embedded dev environments). As a result C::B gets used more because it's pretty much seamless.

            (If I could fix Qt's remote problems I'd switch over in a heartbeat though)

      • (Score: 2) by tibman on Friday May 01 2015, @06:55PM

        by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 01 2015, @06:55PM (#177562)

        JetBrains makes some great IDEs.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 02 2015, @02:55AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 02 2015, @02:55AM (#177740)

        Some may also count Netbeans.

        It was so good I wanted to stab myself in the gut when I first used it. Never again.

        (does it still do that weird shit where I can't delete any code on Swing designs?)

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Marand on Friday May 01 2015, @12:45AM

    by Marand (1081) on Friday May 01 2015, @12:45AM (#177335) Journal

    "gewg_" writes however, with an entirely opposite take

    Of course he did. He still hasn't outgrown the 90's fad of calling Microsoft 'M$' or 'MICROS~1'; did anybody actually expect him to link something that isn't negative about Microsoft's actions?

    I don't really care much for MS and this editor doesn't interest me, but it's cool that they're trying. It seems more like testing new waters than "embrace extend extinguish", trying different things to attract devs and mobile interest (like the android/iOS recompile thing).

    • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 01 2015, @01:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 01 2015, @01:14AM (#177337)

      Uh oh, now you've done it. Every time someone says something that's not 100% negative about Microsoft in a Microsoft article on this site, they are drowned in neckbeard spittle and deafened by the furious typing of script kiddies who weren't even born when Windows XP came out. You may as well have walked into the heart of North Korea wearing an American flag cape and apple pies in each hand, with a bald eagle on your shoulder.

      It was nice knowing you...

      • (Score: 2) by Marand on Friday May 01 2015, @09:38AM

        by Marand (1081) on Friday May 01 2015, @09:38AM (#177416) Journal

        I seem to have tempted fate and lived to tell the tale. It must be my wit and charm that saved me. :p

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 01 2015, @07:26PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 01 2015, @07:26PM (#177571)

          Indeed, some aren't so lucky. What kills me are the "Microdick sucks no matter what! LOLZ" comments coming from otherwise intelligent folks. I've seen more than one commenter here make insightful, intelligent, articulate comments about something unrelated to Microsoft, but when that dreaded name pops up suddenly they revert to their childhood days and begin spewing forth gibberish and vitriol that paints a completely different picture of themselves. I guess that's a given when the bulk of your membership comes from the other site, but I thought this place was above such inanity.

          And their only defense? "Duh, Microsucks was teh evil back in the 90s when I was being conceived in the back of a Corolla, my mommy told me so!" They have no concept of change or progression, or else they can't admit that companies can and do change direction when they change leadership.

          Personally? I think Microsoft is doing it for the money, not for the good will it might one day earn them. They are a corporation, so they are supposed to be beholden to the almighty dollar. I'd just like to see these narrow minded spittle-slingers start calling out Apple and Google for their evil shenanigans as well. At this point, if you put Google's evil deeds for the past five years on the balance against Microsoft's over the same period, you'd see Google sinking fast.

      • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Friday May 01 2015, @01:51PM

        by nitehawk214 (1304) on Friday May 01 2015, @01:51PM (#177462)

        This is Soylent, not the green site. Commenters here are actually reasonable and often insightful.

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        • (Score: 2) by Marand on Saturday May 02 2015, @12:49AM

          by Marand (1081) on Saturday May 02 2015, @12:49AM (#177700) Journal

          Unfortunately, it looks like the AC was right after all; it just took the angry downmodders a day or so to either notice me or get mod points. Or they waited a day hoping nobody else will come along and up-mod me again, maybe.

          My longer comment even got hit with a troll mod, for fuck's sake. How was that trolling? I stated my view, followed it up with elaboration on why I said it, and even presented thoughts on how I thought different outcomes would play out. The thin-skinned folk need to figure out this isn't tumblr, and that "trolling" actually means something more substantial than "made a statement that does not conform to my world view" and/or "boohoo my feels". Or it used to, at least.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Marand on Friday May 01 2015, @02:25AM

      by Marand (1081) on Friday May 01 2015, @02:25AM (#177349) Journal

      I don't really care much for MS and this editor doesn't interest me, but it's cool that they're trying. It seems more like testing new waters than "embrace extend extinguish", trying different things to attract devs and mobile interest (like the android/iOS recompile thing).

      I wanted to elaborate on this part a bit now that I'm at a physical keyboard.

      I don't generally like Microsoft products, and I definitely dislike some of the tactics they've used against competition in the past, but I'm not foolish enough to think the other big players now would have done any different in the same situation. I don't want Microsoft to completely fail because it would leave a gap that, most likely, Google or Apple would fill. Considering how those two have acted without the 90% monopoly Microsoft had at its peak, I don't doubt they'd be even worse than 90's MS given the same monopoly position.

      I'd rather have a weakened Microsoft, which is what we seem to be seeing now. All three (Apple, MS, Google) have their own platforms and none is completely dominant. That makes cross-platform development attractive, which means it's easier to choose the OS you want instead of being stuck with only one option. It may even lead to a resurgence of alternate OSes like we once had, before Amiga and BeOS and others got crushed by the Windows behemoth. There are signs of it in mobile, at least; Android and iOS are dominant, but Blackberry's still around, Windows phone has its dedicated fans, and outside of the US you can actually get things like Jolla or Ubuntu phones. (Aside from iOS, they all seem to be converging on Android compatibility as the cross-platform layer, for better or worse)

      I think some people believe that, if MS falls, Linux would rise to fill its place and we'd have some kind of FOSS utopia. Bullshit. For that to happen, we'd need corporate interests to push it, getting their distros installed on hardware. Those businesses aren't going to be doing that for anyone's benefit but their own, though, and it would just encourage the creation of another OSX, Android, or ChromeOS: free software used as the base for yet another proprietary userland*. Also, anybody that's bitched about Linux being dumbed down over the years as it got easier to use? Yeah, that would continue to happen on a massive scale as businesses try to make the OS "friendlier" to the masses to maximise profit. I'd rather have the Linuxes and BSDs carve out a niche in a market that's split among multiple OSes, like they're doing. (Slightly larger than now maybe, but not at the cost of bowing to corporate interests.)

      So, despite not particularly liking MS (or any of the other big players), I don't want them to fail, because the alternatives look worse.

      * I wouldn't be surprised if MS tries this one day, if things get bad enough. Win32 and win64 are basically platforms on top of the OS, so it's not completely insane to imagine them, in desperation, trying to release a "Windows" software layer that works on top of other platforms such as OS X. Basically the inverse of what they're currently trying with iOS and Android compatibility. Would take some crazy desperation, though.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by jasassin on Friday May 01 2015, @04:25AM

      by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Friday May 01 2015, @04:25AM (#177366) Journal

      I don't really care much for MS and this editor doesn't interest me, but it's cool that they're trying.

      From what I've read on the nets, this is a rethemed fork of the atom ide on github. https://atom.io/ [atom.io]

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by KritonK on Friday May 01 2015, @09:40AM

    by KritonK (465) on Friday May 01 2015, @09:40AM (#177417)

    I had a look at their privacy policy [visualstudio.com], and decided to steer clear of this program.

  • (Score: 2) by kaganar on Friday May 01 2015, @01:19PM

    by kaganar (605) on Friday May 01 2015, @01:19PM (#177451)
    I recall the "other" site often posting a blatant spin on an article or event -- and then duplicating the same spin later, even! It was refreshing to see two viewpoints come together in one article, ameliorating both problems.
  • (Score: 2) by mr_mischief on Friday May 01 2015, @06:07PM

    by mr_mischief (4884) on Friday May 01 2015, @06:07PM (#177544)

    This is my favorite part of the license for Visual Studio Code:

    You may not
    work around any technical limitations in the software;

    Also note that the license is good for one month or until they update the software or the license, whichever bomb drops first.

    Also note that they say you can use it to develop, test, and demo your software. They don't say you can then sell or otherwise distribute that software.

    Also note that you can't opt out of data collection by Microsoft in this version.

    Also note that providing feedback to Microsoft somehow creates a surviving right of theirs to sublicense patents needed to recreate your feedback in Microsoft software.