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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday May 05 2015, @02:53AM   Printer-friendly
from the couldn't-even-run-a-company dept.

Carly Fiorina, the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, has announced that she will seek the Republican nomination for the 2016 US presidential election:

"Yes, I am running for president," she said on ABC's "Good Morning America," where she made the announcement to host George Stephanopoulos. "I think I'm the best person for the job because I understand how the economy actually works. I understand the world, who's in it, how the world works. I understand bureaucracies, and that's what our federal government has become — a giant, bloated, unaccountable, corrupt bureaucracy," she said. "I understand technology, which is a tool both to re-imagine government to re-engage citizens in the process of government, and I understand executive decision-making, which is making a tough call in a tough time with high stakes for which you're prepared to be accountable."

The former Hewlett-Packard executive said she does not believe that it is necessary to have experience in political office, something that she has heard from Americans while traveling throughout the country. "They're kind of tired of the political class, and they believe that we need to return to a citizen government," she said.

Fiorina also slammed Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, saying that she is not trustworthy. While Fiorina said she admires Clinton, she asserted that the former secretary of state has not been transparent about issues ranging from Benghazi to foreign donations to her family's foundation.

Fiorina also launched her presidential campaign website on Monday, featuring a one-minute video with the message that America's founders "never intended us to have a professional political class." The video begins with Fiorina watching Clinton's presidential announcement. After Clinton says she is running for president, Fiorina switches off the TV, turns to the camera and delivers her message.

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson made his announcement on Sunday; former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee is expected to join the race on Tuesday.

Gizmodo points out that Fiorina's team forgot to register the domain carlyfiorina.org.

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:01AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:01AM (#178918)

    Is Carly Fiorina willing to prove that she is a woman? Only women are allowed to compete for the Presidency this cycle.

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:12AM (#178927)

      Bernie Sanders (aka America's Senator) announced his presidential candidacy Thursday.

      You will have to look long and hard to find someone better on workers' rights and anti-austerity.

      His weakness is that, after initial resistance to military aggression and domestic snooping, he tends to cave on subsequent funding|approval for evil stuff.

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:16AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:16AM (#178932)

        He isn't a she. No man will win.

        • (Score: 5, Funny) by Kell on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:04AM

          by Kell (292) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:04AM (#178971)

          He isn't a she. No man will win.

          Although Macduff is still in the running on a technicality, as he was from his mother’s womb untimely ripped.

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          • (Score: 4, Funny) by sigma on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:03AM

            by sigma (1225) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:03AM (#178989)

            Sadly, I always imagine the sound of velcro when I read those immortal Shakespearean lines.

            • (Score: 2) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:44PM

              by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:44PM (#179128) Journal

              Yes. The sound of velcro, terminating in the comic "Pop!" sound of cartoon champagne corks.

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        • (Score: 4, Informative) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 05 2015, @01:27PM

          by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @01:27PM (#179085) Journal

          Oh, boo hoo, I'm pretending that men aren't going to win the presidency in 2016 in spite of 230 years of precedent saying the exact opposite, and the fact that 5/7 announced candidates are male.

          Wah wah.

          All I'll say about Fiorina is that she's the least crazy republican on the ballot right now. She's pretty disagreeable in terms of policy, but doesn't seem to align with the out-and-out insanity that has characterized her party since 2008.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:36PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:36PM (#179146)

            All I'll say about Fiorina is that she's the least crazy republican on the ballot right now.

            Being the least crazy in a party of crazies isn't a good thing. She'll be laughed out of the nomination for not pandering towards the nutjobs which make up the Republican base.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by ikanreed on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:23PM

              by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:23PM (#179165) Journal

              Maybe. But surprisingly, the "nut base" only managed to pick moderately crazy people in 2008 and 2012. I mean, Romney was a massively shitty person, but he wasn't on the crazy level with Huckabee, Cain, or Perry(who in turn were a step below bachman in crazy).

              Their vice presidential candidates were picked to suit the crazy corps. but in general, I'm of the belief that we disproportionately see the crazy republicans because of gerrymandering and safe districts.

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:24PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:24PM (#179166) Journal

          He isn't a she. No man will win.

           
          With such a clear historical trend on your side how could you possibly be wrong?

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:02AM (#178919)

    30,000 fewer jobs at HP. (Extrapolate for 300M.)
    HP stock price halved after the Compaq acquisition.
    HP stock price went up sharply after she was canned.

    -- gewg_

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:09AM

      by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:09AM (#178922) Journal

      30,000 fewer jobs at HP. (Extrapolate for 300M.)

      That's one heck of an extrapolation.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM (#178923)

      All she has to do is to bully every man until he leaves the workforce completely. Everybody knows social women are never unemployed because they use their mastery of cronyism to hire friends and enemies. With an all-female workforce, America is sure to succeed. There will be a brief increase in crime until every man is in prison where he belongs.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:18AM (#178933)

        Can you tell us, from your person experience, how it feels to have a penis that is smaller than everyone on the planet (including the half who have no penis at all)?

        -- gewg_

        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:41AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:41AM (#178955)

          What's it like to be a outspoken supporter of your female oppressors? Do you get a massive erection every time you say "Yes, Ma'am, I want your success to benefit me, Ma'am!"

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM (#178924) Journal

      HP stock price went up sharply after she was canned.

      Why go through the painful and expensive process of electing her? Can you... well... can her before she's elected?

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by GungnirSniper on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM

        by GungnirSniper (1671) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM (#178928) Journal

        We could secede before the election, or after if she actually wins something. The North Will Rise Again!

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:39AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:39AM (#178939) Journal

          We could secede before the election, or after if she actually wins something.

          lol... Imagine if all the 50 states + other districts/territories secede in protest if she wins!

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:48AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:48AM (#178957)

            You couldn't even find 50 Americans to agree to protest anything. Good luck finding 50 state governments.

            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:30AM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:30AM (#179367) Journal
              A pity... would have been great fun.
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          • (Score: 4, Funny) by Marand on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:00AM

            by Marand (1081) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:00AM (#178970) Journal

            lol... Imagine if all the 50 states + other districts/territories secede in protest if she wins!

            God, no! Think of it this way:

            She fails horribly at being CEO, falls upward into presidency. Extrapolating from that, if she were to fail that spectacularly at being president, then who knows what sort of job she'd fail her way into? Next thing you know, aliens show up and crown her Empress of All Galaxies. The entire universe would be fucked!

        • (Score: 5, Funny) by M. Baranczak on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:57AM

          by M. Baranczak (1673) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:57AM (#178949)

          If Canada secedes, it's all over.

          • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday May 05 2015, @06:19PM

            by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @06:19PM (#179185) Journal

            There will be no seceding here in Canada... we do NOT suck seeds!!!! :-#

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      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:30PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:30PM (#179061)

        Yes we can!

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM (#178930)

      But I don't know if it would've been worse if she hadn't been HP CEO. They might have lost 60,000 jobs or gone out of business altogether.

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:40AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:40AM (#178940)

        That is all.

        -- gewg_

        • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:46AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:46AM (#178944)

          Dude, if you aren't going to log in, you can't complain if another AC impersonates you.
          Well you can complain, but you will get nearly zero sympathy.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:53AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:53AM (#178948)

          Actually, calling you shithead was pretty shitty of me. I apologize.

          -- gewg_

          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44AM (#178956)

            Fuck me! I love to take it in the asshole!

            -- gewg_

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:22AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:22AM (#179018)

              Also, my pants are very baggy.
              Very very baggy indeed.

              --gewg_

        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02AM

          by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02AM (#178987) Homepage
          You don't, you hypocrite.

          Appending an arbitrary string of characters at the end of your post which any other person could also append to their posts is not "signing" in any meaningful way, shape, of form. The weird thing is that you seem to be aware of this dichotomy, yet unwilling to solve it.
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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:27AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:27AM (#178995)

            It is a unique combination of characters.
            People here are aware of who uses that character string to identify himself.
            Common courtesy would preclude someone else from using that.

            ...then there are certain individuals who have no honor and will sign someone else's name.
            There are circumstances where that is a criminal act.

            -- gewg_

            • (Score: 5, Touché) by Ryuugami on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:05AM

              by Ryuugami (2925) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:05AM (#179038)

              Common courtesy would preclude someone else from using that.

              Ah, you must be new here. Welcome to the Internet.

              :)

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            • (Score: 3, Funny) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:48PM

              by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:48PM (#179129) Journal

              It'd be funny if Soylent's fork allowed the signing of posts with GPG. Hey!

              What about a Soylent hosted keyserver - where you could register your fake-name?

              I'm onto something here... Where'd you hide the Doritos?

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      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:43AM (#178941)

        > But I don't know if it would've been worse if she hadn't been HP CEO. They might have lost 60,000 jobs or gone out of business altogether.

        I was an HP employee long before she showed up and a sub to them managing technical stuff on-site with one of their larger customers during her reign.

        One thing she did with Compaq was lay off much of HP's middle-management and replace them with Compaq middle-management. These were the people most responsible for running Compaq so poorly that HP could afford to buy them.

        • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:37AM

          by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:37AM (#178998) Journal

          Moral, don't put in crappy management? ;-)

          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:19AM

            by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:19AM (#179042)

            If your only goal is next quarter's stock price, fire all the good expensive people and hope you're not around when it all crashes down.

            • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:29AM

              by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:29AM (#179044) Journal

              Guess the deal here is to sell out the citizens and fish for votes. Then leave for a nice job when the citizens get what happens. Then the next president can blame the former one and so on..

              • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday May 06 2015, @06:59PM

                by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Wednesday May 06 2015, @06:59PM (#179623)

                Then the next president can blame the former one and so on..

                Or those that elected the former one can relentlessly blame the current one...

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:24AM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:24AM (#178935) Journal

      No allowance for the time period during which she was there gewg_?

      The tech bubble had just burst in 2000, it was clear Dell and HP and Compaq weren't all three going to survive.
      Everybody's stock went down.
      Everybody shed employees.

      I don't like everything she did at HP, (and neither did the Board), but I don't think you can pin the whole 2000 tech bubble on her alone.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:44AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:44AM (#178942)

        ...and acquiring a failed company was the correct move?
        Clearly not.

        -- gewg_

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:18AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:18AM (#178961)

        Do you know any long time HP employees who were there when she took over? She destroyed something beautiful. She stomped on a corporate butterfly. Why? Stupidity. The stupidity of a child who rips the legs off a newt to see what will happen.

        There are many great entrepreneurs and managers in this country. She does not live in that pantheon. She doesn't deserve to manage a Kansas Arby's let alone the entire country.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:05AM

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:05AM (#178990) Homepage
        I knew HP employees in the 2000s. They were dancing in the street after the announcement she'd been booted out. (At least in some German offices, the friends in Irish offices just went to the pub instead.)
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        • (Score: 4, Interesting) by The Archon V2.0 on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44PM

          by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44PM (#179149)

          I was working in a Canadian EDS call center - pre-merger - on an HP contract when Carly was there. One of our most abnormally busy weeks (so not counting the week with Dec. 25th) could be, if my corporate masters were to be believed, traced to her corporate reorganizing. Essentially the inkjet printer department no longer had any communication with the ink cartridge department. Used to be that parts of the ink cart group worked with the fax and printer and such people so they could design carts that were asymmetrical and different (color wider than black) and hard to install wrong. After Carly's reforms, the ink cart department made the carts with minimal non-Carly input and the other departments had to change their HW to suit.

          After the change, the ink cart guys started cranking out identical carts (with less ink per cart) and the printers started growing obnoxious little lids and hinges to try make the carts impossible to install wrong. Anyway, the first day a new Deskjet (5550?) came out we found out that the hinged lids weren't very good. They wouldn't lock if you put color in black and vice versa... but they were fine with installing the correct cartridge backwards. And their failure state for the "impossible" condition of "correct cartridge with no electrical contact" was to move the carriage to the cleaning position and lock it. So it never came out, unless you powered on the printer, waited until it was halfway through the startup noises, and yanked the power plug. During that fairly short window the mechanisms would let go of the carriage (and you had to cut power to stop it from RE-locking ten seconds later) and you could move it out manually to where you could change the carts. (The cleaning position was away from the paper path, so out of reach for standard maintenance.)

          We got a lot of calls about that printer the first days it was on sale, and the earliest adopters had the pleasure of hearing good reps tell them to take it back to the store (against policy but kept call time down) or bad reps slowly figuring things out and walking them through it to get them printing.

        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02PM

          by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02PM (#179234) Journal

          I imagine that would be true of anyone who's job was under review to be terminated.
          Cost cutters are seldom popular.

          Note: Not saying she helped HP all that much. They were bloated, unprofitable, and heading downward before she got there. They still have a habit of divesting themselves of huge chunks of their business. They are still doing this today. By that standard, she was ahead of her time.

          See http://www.wsj.com/articles/hewlett-packard-to-split-into-two-companies-1412592132 [wsj.com]

          I suspect she didn't hurt HP as much as most people think. And FTR, I doubt she would make a good president, and I doubt she will even get the nomination.

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    • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:38PM

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:38PM (#179066) Journal

      Lets not forget she spun off their highly respected test equipment division to Agilent. I worked for a guy in college who cursed her for doing that.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:03AM (#179355)

        I work for the current incarnation of the electronic measurement company. There's not much love for Carly, at least among the rank and file.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:35PM (#179145)

      The US is already at that point.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:10PM (#179158)

      disregard this, I suck cocks

      -- gewg_

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by GungnirSniper on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:11AM

    by GungnirSniper (1671) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:11AM (#178925) Journal

    She knows the Republicans will be tempted to pick a female VP to help against Hillary, and she knows by making herself known now will add to her attractiveness for that role. You could make a similar case for Ben Carson being a black man, adding diversity to their side.

    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:27AM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:27AM (#178936) Journal

      Or any random person wearing an "I'm Not Hillary: tee shirt, for that matter.

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:58AM (#178950)

      Fiorina seems to be "generic white person with so much money that they are surrounded by yes-men." She got trounced by Pelosi in an election year where upstart republicans swept the vote nationwide. So now she thinks she got a chance at an even bigger election where she is even less qualified. Maybe she thinks "failing-up" works in politics like it does in business.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by captain normal on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:12AM

        by captain normal (2205) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:12AM (#178959)

        Worked for Ron Reagan. Never overestimate the intelligence of the American public.

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    • (Score: 5, Funny) by shortscreen on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:53AM

      by shortscreen (2252) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:53AM (#178958) Journal

      It's kind of like a shitty version of chess.

      "Oh snap! They moved their black dude... Should I move my Iraq war veteran or my woman???"

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by aristarchus on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:36AM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:36AM (#178975) Journal

      She knows the Republicans will be tempted to pick a female VP to help against Hillary

      Because that worked out so well the last time! Face it! For 40 years no Republican will be elected president. This is all a replay of several things, but most importantly of the Great Depression. FDR served four terms, because the American people realized that Silent Cal had sold them down the river with a Republican economic plan, the same plan that Reagan and the Bushes have forced on America and the World to produce the Great Recession. Supply-side economics is a lie, as several of the original architects have admitted. Republicans had to get a law passed to ensure they could have the presidency again, and then they lost to Truman. I see no reason it should be different now.

      (Oh, a joke! A Cuban, a Canadian, and a white supremeist walk into a bar, and the bartender says: "What'll you have, Senator Cruz?")

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:32AM

        by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:32AM (#179046)

        Aside from specific historical events they have a demographic crisis. Sure, go ahead with opposition to gay marriage, quisling like worship of cops who shoot black people in the back, make everyone poor and then make your policy "F the poor", quisling worship of the 1%, Christian taliban ideals, no legalizing pot, lets ban abortions and teaching post 1700 biology. That kind of stuff sells really well to angry white men over 70, unfortunately thats only about 10% of voters and everyone else says F that either in whole or at least in part.

        Their only hope of fundraising is to keep the neo scum around because the 1%er upper class unfortunately resemble the above paragraph, yet their only hope of getting elected is either Hillary or ejecting the neo scum from the party. Hillary is probably going to win the primaries with every R voter out there crossing lines to vote for her (in some states crossing lines isn't allowed, or more accurately is made very difficult), and if the D are dumb enough to nominate her then the R can win. Otherwise we're looking at a permanent D majority as far as the eye can see.

        This will have no effect on policy, the rich guys will remain in charge and control both parties completely, only on the PR used to pacify the masses. How a permanent D supermajority will pacify the masses is a mystery, as that doesn't appear like a democracy so its not going to pacify people very well. The political scene of the future couple decades is to pacify the population we'll get one party of consistent but whacko ideas that being the fox news / r party axis of evil, and the other party containing inconsistent whackos that being the rest of the media / d party axis of evil. That'll provide the illusion of choice at election time, keep people pacified.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by M. Baranczak on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM

    by M. Baranczak (1673) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM (#178929)

    A less-competent version of Mitt Romney.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:47AM (#178945)

      You Sir, win the flamethrower award for today. Well done.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:18AM (#178934)

    As more candidates climb in, people start to think, gee, there's going to 15 or 20 candidates so I'll have a big advantage because I won't be competing head to head with all the others! In this race I'll be the only

    - woman (Carly Fiorina)
    - Hispanic (Marco Rubio)
    - African American (Ben Carson)
    - Libertarian, isolationist (Rand Paul)
    - Mainstream "grown up" (Jeb Bush)
    - Tea Party candidate (Ted Cruz)
    - Eastern power structure guy (Chris Christie)
    - Reagan conservative (Rick Perry)
    - Businessman (Donald Trump)
    - Bible belter (Mike Huckabee)
    - Union baiter (Scott Walker)
    - Foreign Policy specialist (John Bolton)
    - New York Times RINO-guy (Lindsey Graham)
    ...

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:35AM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:35AM (#178937) Journal

      Say what you will, its better than the practice of the past when the Party's (both of them) ran candidates who's "Turn" it was...

      Walter Mondale
      Bob Dole
      Al Gore
      Jon McCane
      and now Hillary

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    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:38AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:38AM (#178938)

      Mainstream "grown up" (Jeb Bush)

      Can you be specific?
      Something where he was a leader and not a follower?
      Is there any real accomplishment to his name?
      Something that 51 percent of the country agrees on would be good for a start.

      Businessman (Donald Trump)

      I would say "Trust fund baby".
      Throw in "Argument for a 99 percent inheritance tax".
      He lost half of the millions his Daddy left him before he ever made a dime.

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:02AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:02AM (#178951)

        Your definition of mainstream is not the same as republican party mainstream. In particular "leader not a follower" does not fit the mold of knowing your place in the hierarchy and waiting your turn. McCain tried to sell himself as a rogue precisely because that is not how republicans normally run their party.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @01:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @01:40PM (#179089)

        Bush called his immigration plan the "grown up" plan, meaning moderate and workable. You can Google.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mendax on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:22AM

      by mendax (2840) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:22AM (#178962)

      - woman (Carly Fiorina)
      - Hispanic (Marco Rubio)
      - African American (Ben Carson)
      - Libertarian, isolationist (Rand Paul)
      - Mainstream "grown up" (Jeb Bush)
      - Tea Party candidate (Ted Cruz)
      - Eastern power structure guy (Chris Christie)
      - Reagan conservative (Rick Perry)
      - Businessman (Donald Trump)
      - Bible belter (Mike Huckabee)
      - Union baiter (Scott Walker)
      - Foreign Policy specialist (John Bolton)
      - New York Times RINO-guy (Lindsey Graham)

      A better political rogues gallery one cannot find in fact or fiction... except maybe in Congress.

      --
      It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:31AM (#179020)

        You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by VLM on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:35AM

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:35AM (#179048)

          Its the Village People!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:58AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:58AM (#179055)

        - Socialist (Bernie Sanders)

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:19PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:19PM (#179247)

          George Snuffleupagus

          asked just-announced 2016 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders (I-VT) whether he could win an election outside of Ben and Jerry land as a socialist.
          [...]
          "In countries in Scandinavia like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, they are very democratic countries", Sanders said. "Voter turnout is a lot higher than it is in the United States. In those countries, health care is the right of all people; college education and graduate school is free; retirement benefits, child care are stronger than the United States of America. In those countries by and large government works for ordinary people and the middle class, rather than, as is the case right now in our country, for the billionaire class."

          "I can hear the Republican attack ad right now", Stephanopoulos said. "He wants America to look more like Scandinavia."

          "That’s right", Sanders said. "What’s wrong with that?"

          Mediaite is part of the Abrams Media Network [mediaite.com]
          (There is a link in the page to ABC's video.)

          .
          The $20 minimum wage they have in Denmark would be a good start.

          -- gewg_

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:57AM

      by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:57AM (#179009) Journal

      I have to say, LEGO are really scraping the bottom of the barrel with their series 14 minifig line-up.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:04AM

    by takyon (881) <reversethis-{gro ... s} {ta} {noykat}> on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:04AM (#178952) Journal

    Although carlyfiorina.org is a great catch, registering misspellings of "fiorina" could be amusing or even lucrative.

    carlyfiorna.com is available.

    --
    [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:50AM (#178965)

      For me that misspelling resolves as 184.168.221.14

      Godaddy in Arizona.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:06AM

    by PizzaRollPlinkett (4512) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:06AM (#179039)

    Many of us have lost our long-term, permanent jobs recently. Many of us have seen permanent employment dry up, replaced with lower paying contract jobs and outsourcing. We're in a new world we don't understand, and we need someone to guide us. The idea of a career is almost no longer possible, as skilled workers go from one crappy temp job to another.

    I see Fiorina as a leader who knows "how the economy actually works" because she was on top. She was the one who purged workers who were trying to live stable, productive lives. She is a figurehead for the worker-purge economy, where executives fire people and pay themselves bonuses. The woman and the hour have met. She's our man for 2016.

    The only good thing about Fiorina that I can think of is she's not shilling a book. The other guy, Carson, is running for president as a stunt just to sell his book.

    --
    (E-mail me if you want a pizza roll!)
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:31PM (#179144)

      Many of us have recently lost our long-term jobs permanently

      I can tell you are ESL so don't take this personally, I'm only trying to help you out. In English, word order matters because we don't use word variants to indicate which words the modifiers refer to.

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:55PM (#179155)

        What the fuck are you talking about? Your "correction" is far less understandable to native english speakers than the original.

    • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday May 05 2015, @06:23PM

      by Freeman (732) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @06:23PM (#179189) Journal

      Carson was a Neurosurgeon and has Already sold millions of copies of multiple books. He doesn't need a "publicity stunt" to sell his books. His life is interesting enough to sell his books.

      --
      Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:48PM (#179261)

        Token (toking?) black guy on the GOP ballot again.
        The black brain surgeon isn't any more coherent than the black pizza salesman that the GOP had running previously.
        7 Ridiculous Things Ben Carson Believes [thinkprogress.org]

        There’s no such thing as a war crime

        Good to know. Demonstrates just how monstrous a Carson administration would be.

        Obamacare is the worst thing since slavery

        Seems to have forgotten WWII--and the disastrous thing in Vietnam.
        ...and Obamacare is so bad that the GOP's 50-plus attempts to unravel it have all failed.

        -- gewg_

    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by SpockLogic on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:06PM

      by SpockLogic (2762) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:06PM (#179264)

      The only good thing about Fiorina that I can think of is she's not shilling a book.

      The announcement of her candidacy conveniently coincides with the release of her second book, Rising to the Challenge: My Leadership Journey and her book tour.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-18/carly-fiorina-times-presidential-announcement-with-start-of-book-tour [bloomberg.com]

      So nothing good about Fiorina after all.

      --
      Overreacting is one thing, sticking your head up your ass hoping the problem goes away is another - edIII