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posted by takyon on Tuesday May 12 2015, @11:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the take-a-chill-iot-pill dept.

The Internet of Things (IoT) may have a somewhat bad rap on SN, but big companies are forging alliances and appliance manufacturers are in the mix. From GE's May 11 press release:

Canonical is collaborating with some of the world's smartest technology brands, including GE's FirstBuild, Acer, Microsoft and DataArt, to reveal a slew of new and innovative IoT devices; all built on 'Snappy' Ubuntu Core and designed to delight developers and consumers alike.

ChillHub is a refrigerator with two USB ports, Wi-Fi and an open-source iOS-compatible app:

Developed by FirstBuild community members, ChillHub is not only a refrigerator, but an open development platform designed for makers, hackers, tinkerers and developers. FirstBuild community members continue to collaborate on products and features to customize and create new uses for their refrigerators. ChillHub, an 18-cubic-foot top-freezer refrigerator, will retail for $999 and can be ordered through FirstBuild.com. Limited pre-orders will also be available at an early-bird price of $799.

Hopefully no one will keep spam in their fridge. Spotted on ZDNet.

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In the near future, you may hear about the appointment of a Chief Internet of Things (IoT) Officer. Before you roll your eyes and chortle at the thought of another chief-of-something, consider the problem.

First, companies are beginning to make and implement smart, connected, data-producing products. That can be anything—automobiles, assembly line robots, washing machines and even coffee makers. This data can be used in predictive analytics to avoid product failures, as well as to schedule maintenance around when a product actually needs it. These products, mechanical and electronic, will likely get ongoing software updates.

Second, connected products are now part of a broader system. Or as Michael Porter, a Harvard economist, pointed out at this week's ThingWorx conference, you aren't just selling a tractor, you are selling a tractor that is becoming part of a smart farm, a system. Things have to be able to work together.

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2919702/it-careers/all-hail-the-next-big-job-the-chief-iot-officer.html

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U.S. technology and engineering conglomerate GE said on Saturday it had signed $15 billion of business deals with Saudi Arabia as part of the kingdom's drive to diversify its economy beyond oil.

It came as dozens of senior U.S. business executives met Saudi counterparts at a conference coinciding with the visit of President Donald Trump to Riyadh.

[...] Among the projects, GE will help make Saudi power generation more efficient and provide digital technology to the operations of oil firm Saudi Aramco, aiming to create $4 billion of annual productivity improvements at Aramco. It will cooperate in medical research and training.

Source: Reuters

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:14AM (#182171)

    How much does the DLC Season Pass cost?

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:22AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:22AM (#182173) Homepage Journal

    You see, the reason is that I like my women like I like my coffee:

    Strong, black, ground up and in my freezer.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:28AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:28AM (#182177) Journal

      I'm sure there's a Google+ circle for that.

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    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday May 13 2015, @06:30PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @06:30PM (#182524) Journal

      I like my women like I like my coffee:

      Strong, black, ground up and in my freezer.

       
      Ugh, what a disgusting and completely inappropriate post! Someone from the left coast should know better!
       
      Never freeze your coffee.

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:30AM (#182179)

    The 13U 19" rack-mount fridge [canford.co.uk] is a real fridge. Everything else is a toy.

    • (Score: 1) by anubi on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:41AM

      by anubi (2828) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:41AM (#182183) Journal

      CANFORD RACK FRIDGE

      Ideal for OB trucks, studio hospitality etc. 240V AC powered, 65 watts, energy consumption 0.76kWh/24h. 13U height. Depth required 383mm. Colour black.

      With an energy consumption of 65 watts, and designed for trucks, I am surprised they do not offer it in a 12 volt model. This is just the kind of thing I would have loved to put into spare rackspace in our well logging truck. Everything was rackmount, as the terrain was sometimes quite rugged. Everything needed to be in its place and bolted down.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by jmorris on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:59AM

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @12:59AM (#182188)

    Somebody explain what the purpose of an Internet connected fridge is? Just clamp a tablet to the front of one if you want to use the surface for a display. Maybe put a sensor in it and use BT if you are really hellbent on knowing what the temp inside is. But this is insane, any tech will be obsolete in one or two years, certainly will stop getting security patches by then, yet the average fridge lasts ten to twenty years. So we are now going to fill the landfills with three year old major appliances because the tech in them is obsolete?

    So somebody, anybody, explain what the f*cking point is here.

    • (Score: 2) by t-3 on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:21AM

      by t-3 (4907) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:21AM (#182197)

      I've often wondered this too. What exactly is the purpose of having appliances on the internet?

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by anubi on Wednesday May 13 2015, @02:34AM

        by anubi (2828) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @02:34AM (#182211) Journal

        Well, one thing strikes me.

        Ever lived around a mooch?

        This thing might be programmed to give you a text message when someone opens the door, and maybe append a picture of the culprit.

        Now, you will know who got the chicken you were saving for tomorrow's sack lunch.

        Did your daughter's boyfriend clean you out again? Now, you have proof(s).

        If the refrigerator has cameras, it may also assist you in watching your home when you are away.

        Or, it could serve as a wireless hub so you do not have to mount a separate box elsewhere for this purpose. The refrigerator already has a power source to run everything. It might even store a little VOIP handset in the door. Would be handy if a call comes in in the middle of meal preparation. Voice activated hands-free so you do not have to spend the next hour trying to get the smell of fish off of of your phone as well as what your phone was stored in.

        Other than that, it may let you know if something is amiss... like one of your kids did not close the door - or maybe the temperature is not right.

        You might want a heads up on it before you discover a freezer full of rotting food.

        Because nearly every kitchen has a refrigerator, and nearly every refrigerator is connected to electrical power, I can see all sorts of things where the refrigerator can host other kitchen infrastructure. Was there some law that states that a refrigerator can only serve one purpose? It sure is a shame to let all that door space go unused, when it could be covered in an LCD like display that could be instructed to offer custom wallpapers, including things like clocks, thermometers, web pages, who is at the front door, whatever.

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        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:25AM

          by frojack (1554) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:25AM (#182219) Journal

          If it could bar codes on the way in and out, you could date things and warn of expiration.
          Of course there is no bar code on that plate of left over pizza, but maybe they could just do it with images.

          Other than that it seems pretty useless.

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          • (Score: 1) by tftp on Wednesday May 13 2015, @04:30AM

            by tftp (806) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @04:30AM (#182233) Homepage

            If it could bar codes on the way in and out, you could date things and warn of expiration.

            That would require you to scan the original package when you take things out and when you put them back in. Who has time for that, and for what purpose? This would also prevent altering the original package; for example, I put an opened bar of cheese into another plastic bag, so that it doesn't dry out. Bar codes do not contain expiration dates, by the way - these are printed in human-readable (barely!) form somewhere else on the package, and sometimes it takes an effort to find that text. To make things worse, expiration dates on many products have little to do with their real expiration, as that depends - for example - on when the package was opened.

            Of course there is no bar code on that plate of left over pizza, but maybe they could just do it with images.

            Yes. And then you end up with 100+ photos of your pizza. What do you do with them? It's even more work to sort it out - and you already know that you have eaten all your pizza, and none is left. What's the point of fiddling with images?

            IMO, these smart appliances are useful only to people with weak memory. Maybe they are of use to very old people, those who do not remember what they have in the refrigerator and who don't want to walk all the way to it to check. Those are edge cases that relate to medical equipment. Perhaps cameras and scanners would be useful to those patients. But the vast majority of population does not need this technology. It's not too hard to remember what you have; and if it is too hard, download an application for your smartphone that either scans the item that you are about to run out of, or simply records your voice message: "Need more vinegar" - if, for some reason, it is too hard for you to type this word in.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sudo rm -rf on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:43PM

              by sudo rm -rf (2357) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:43PM (#182427) Journal

              >Those are edge cases that relate to medical equipment.
              I always struggled to find arguments for IoT, but this is the first time an argument really makes sense to me, albeit in a slightly different manner than you perhaps intended: smart fridges make sense in a hospital environment, where expired meds or blood bottles lead to more serious problems than let's say expired milk.

        • (Score: 2) by TK on Wednesday May 13 2015, @02:10PM

          by TK (2760) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @02:10PM (#182379)

          Other than that, it may let you know if something is amiss... like one of your kids did not close the door - or maybe the temperature is not right.

          Last month I visited a friend who lives in a fairly modern condo. His fridge beeps if the door is open for too long.

          Last year I purchased an industrial-sized fridge for a commercial kitchen. There is a small thermometer display on the outside, and it makes a noise if the internal temperature gets too high or too low.

          It sure is a shame to let all that door space go unused

          People have been putting notes and children's drawings on their refrigerator doors from the very second they became a household appliance.

          These two problems are already solved. The mooch, not so much. Maybe face-recognition combined with a small electric shock will teach your daughter's boyfriend whose food it is.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:22AM

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:22AM (#182198)
      I'd settle for webcams in my fridge so I can see what I've actually got.
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    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:05AM

      by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:05AM (#182215)

      MegaCorp loves it because they can now target ads to you. "You're low on milk", "You need more bacon", "You should buy a better brand of beer", There's a special on butter at Safeway'....
      Add a video camera and microphone and they will know every thing you do in the kitchen.

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      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday May 13 2015, @08:11AM

        by kaszz (4211) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @08:11AM (#182285) Journal

        Complete with advertising on the fridge door..

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:42AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @03:42AM (#182225)
    • (Score: 2) by JeanCroix on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:55PM

      by JeanCroix (573) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:55PM (#182370)
      I'm guessing it's just a way to extract more revenue from owners through a combination of planned hardware obsolescence, and a subscription model to whatever online "service" is required to keep the fridge running. For owners, the benefits over a traditional fridge will be minimal beyond a "gee whiz" factor. But if the companies can charge by the month to use it... ah, now that's the point you're looking for.
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:02AM

    by Nerdfest (80) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:02AM (#182189)

    Isn't that still a contradiction? It seems strange that they support (or at least mention) only iOS.

  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday May 13 2015, @08:15AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Wednesday May 13 2015, @08:15AM (#182286) Journal

    * two USB ports - a port that won't be able to handle wires longer than 5 meters and have some serious duplex issues. Nor any good EMI resistance.
      * Wi-Fi - open invitation to NSA and street hackers
      * open-source iOS-compatible app - mutable incompatible. Are you kidding me?

    This fridge seems to be a hipster bingo checklist. Nice try, perhaps it will even manage too keep food at low temperature.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @06:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @06:42PM (#182535)

      an 18-cubic-foot top-freezer refrigerator,

      We looked around and bought a bottom-freezer fridge, with simple, single doors (not the latest fad of double door + freezer drawer). We go in the fridge more than the freezer so it makes sense to have the fridge on top. Everything is easy to see and this means we are much less likely to forget something turning to mold in the back.

      It's possible that top freezers are a little more efficient? Ours is USA "Energy Star" so it's not bad. Because it is so easy to find things without bending over, we might even have the door open for less time -- this could save more energy than a slightly more efficient design??

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @10:22AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @10:22AM (#182304)

    USB ports and some sort of rack or hollow on the outside of the door to hold and charge phones, tablets, etc. might have been useful, but what kind of USB device would you put in a fridge?

    Camera - its just as easy to open the thing as it is to access a video stream. The Cambridge Coffee Pot cam was fine, but in a very niche situation - the general public don't really care.

    Mood lighting - I want lighting that lets me see if there are any problems with the food. A regular pulse of UV or something to kill bacteria might be useful, but might also create bigger problems.

    Speaker - nah.

    Like most people, I don't see any value in this. It always seems like Nerds getting carried away by nerdy possibilities than something anyone would want. There is nothing wrong with that in itself, but as others have said, the main likely use for it is as another advertising vector or for logging data that then gets sold to the highest bidder (e.g. # of visits, calories removed per visit).

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @06:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 13 2015, @06:03PM (#182506)

    oh this is cool!
    now the fridge will alert me when they finally have a model available with magnetic cooling!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_refrigeration [wikipedia.org]