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posted by CoolHand on Thursday May 14 2015, @12:16AM   Printer-friendly
from the remind-us-to-unpublish-our-blog-urls dept.

Ars reports on the most recent blogger death in Bangladesh:

Assailants with cleavers and machetes on Tuesday killed another blogger in Bangladesh, the third blogger in that country murdered in as many months, the Committee to Protect Journalists said. Another blogger killed in Bangladesh earlier this year used Facebook as his medium, the committee said.

The committee said that Ananta Bijoy Das, who wrote about science and railed against religious fundamentalism, was killed Tuesday by four masked men in the northeastern city of Sylhet in broad daylight.

The death of Das brings to at least 20 the number of writers murdered globally this year, according to CPJ statistics. Bangladesh is ranked 13th globally with at least 16 killed since 1992.

An American blogger (of Bangladeshi origin) was an earlier victim this year.

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Meta: Milestones and Updated Moderation Guidelines 334 comments

Milestone #1:
First off, please join me in congratulating janrinok in posting his 5,400th story! I can attest that it represents a tremendous commitment of time and effort, all freely given to the community. Thanks JR!

Milestone #2:
Secondly, we are a few days away from our team reaching 2.8 billion points towards Folding at Home. Official Team Stats and a more informative summary. As I write this, our team is currently ranked #392 in the world. Please be aware we are up against teams such as AWS, Google, Apple, Facebook, SAP, IBM, Dell, Oracle... you get the idea. Our top contributor is Runaway1956 who has been contributing about 2.5 million points per day. Barring any surprises, he is on track to reach 1 billion points by month's end. Way to go!

Moderation:
Lastly, I need to call the community's attention to some problems with moderations.

For the most part, things have been working out well! Considering the diverse viewpoints — and strong feelings about them — I'd say things are working amazingly well. There are some, however, who are prolific, vocal, strong-willed, and are trying to push their own agenda. They are likely to be unhappy with these changes. Until notified otherwise, feel free to moderate complaints about moderation as "-1 Offtopic" and just move on.

Effective Immediately:
For the benefit of the community who have been acting in good faith all along, staff will commence issuing moderation bans on accounts that have been acting unfairly. Each ban will have been discussed among staff and no unilateral action will be taken. If you receive a ban, it's because a majority of staff are in agreement that unfair moderations have been performed and needed to be dealt with.

Meta: Moderations -- SPAM and Otherwise [UPDATED] 147 comments
[UPDATE: 2022-01-05 20:48:08 UTC]
We are aware there are some issues (dead links) where indicated by links to "here" in the story. It seems to be a long-dormant bug in the code. Will address this issue when addressing any other issues raised here. In the meantime, try using the links that appear in the liked-to article, directly, at: ( https://soylentnews.org/faq.pl?op=moderation#spam . Yes, we are aware that those are not the best examples and we are aware that those examples may need to be updated to point to better ones. --martyb

I've been made aware of some discussions about the permitted use of the "Spam" moderation. This has spawned a great deal of discussion among Soylent staff.

What's The Point?
The whole purpose of comment moderation is for an (early) reader of a comment is to provide guidance to later readers. Like "breaking trail" for others when hiking through deep snow. The "Trail breaker" makes it eaier to navigate the path for those who follow. Before we dive into the Spam, it is important to note that it is encouraged to "upmod" more than one "downmods". I receive an e-mail each day that includes the number of each that were performed on the preceding day. I am happy to report that I generally see 2x to 4x more upmods than downmods! YAY!

Where to start?
Start at the at the top of the Left-Hand side of the Main page. There one can find a link to the FAQ. Click that link and scroll down to the link about our Moderation System. Click that link. Located there is a list of items including one on the Spam Mod.

There it states:

Spam Mod

The spam moderation (spam mod) is to be used only on comments that genuinely qualify as spam. Spam is unsolicited advertisement, undesired and offtopic filth, or possibly illegal in general. Spam can come in many forms, but it differs from a troll comment in that it will have absolutely no substance, is completely undesired, is detrimental to the site, or worse.

The spam mod is special in that is removes 10 Karma points from the user that posted the comment. This mod is meant to combat spam and not to be used to punish commenters (when in doubt, don't use this mod). Our goal is to put a spammer in Karma Hell and for them to not be able to get out of it easily. As we do not want this used against non-spamers, we monitor all spam mods to make sure moderators are not abusing the spam mod. If we find a moderator that unfairly applied the spam mod, we remove the mod giving the poster back the Karma points, and the modder is banned from modding for one month. Further bans to the same modder add increasing amounts of ban time. If you inadvertently applied a spam mod, mail the admin and we will remove the spam mod without banning you. Even though we have updated the interface to physically separate the spam mod from the other mods, unintentional modding may still be an unfortunate occurrence.

Examples

If you are unsure of whether a comment is spam or not, don't use the spam mod. Here are some examples of spam:

  • Proper spam. Anything whose primary purpose is advertisement (unless somehow relevant to the discussion/article).
  • HOSTS/GNAA/etc... type posts. Recurring, useless annoyances we're all familiar with.
  • Posts so offtopic and lacking value to even be a troll that they can't be called anything else. See here, here or here for example.
  • Repeating the same thing over and over. This includes blockquoting entire comments without adding anything substantial to them.

These examples cannot cover every type of Spam that you might encounter. Please exercise common sense. We expect all comments to be on-topic or following a clearly defined thread that has developed as part of the discussion. Raising personal complaints or starting completely new discussions unrelated to the main story are certainly off-topic and also possibly trolling. Remember: if in doubt do not use the Spam moderation.

"Sock Mods" and "Mod Bombs":
You may ask: "What's that?". Simply stated, when a logged-in-user, uses one (or more) account(s) to "updmod" other account(s) in unison. This is similar to using other account(s) to "Downmod" one (or more) account(s) in unison. Both practices are Forbidden. As always, when such activity is discovered, Admins notice and discuss it to confirm the observation with other admins. Actions taken can range from a ban on moderations (for increasing durations for repeat offenders) to an outright ban on use of the accounts(s). We have observed such activity happening recently and are preparing to take action. Similarly, when several accounts can be shown to have repeatedly cooperated to prevent someone from expressing their opinion or have given other accounts an unfair advantage then that can also be a form of 'bombing'. My advice is: stop right now. We do not like taking such actions, but it would be unfair to those who DO follow the rules for us to ignore such activities.

Summary:
(1) simply follow Wheaton's Law:

Don't Be a Dick

(2) "Say what you mean, mean what you say, but don't say it mean."

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @12:23AM

    by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @12:23AM (#182720) Homepage Journal

    I am dead certain that predominant among the reasons I am unable to find paying work, is that I am so outspoken on the Internet.

    At least all I have to worry about, is that I don't have much money.

    --
    Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:12AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:12AM (#182743)

      Modding the parent offtopic was just petty and stupid. The post was at least tangentially on topic. Somebody apparently has a grudge against the poster. Hunt the modder down, take his mod points away and slap his peepee. Asshole.

      • (Score: 0, Troll) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:26AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:26AM (#182747) Homepage Journal

        ... and is the reason that every time someone writes a wikipedia article about me, it's marked for deletion, with the specious claim that I'm not notable enough for wikipedia, because I'm only well-known as kuro5hin.

        In reality, I was notable enough for wikipedia long before the best part of jimmy wales dripped down his mother's leg.

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:24AM (#182766)

        > The post was at least tangentially on topic.

        It was yet another post by MDC about MDC. Just more first post noise.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:29AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:29AM (#182749)

      Good, Hans Reiser did nothing wrong. (Score:-1, Spam)

      Good.

      When someone opposed to marrying girl children is killed it is a good thing. When they are killed painfully it is better.

      Marry young girls.

      Kill feminists.

      Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew

      +Other parts of deuteronomy.

      • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:33AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:33AM (#182752) Homepage Journal

        ... when no body had been found, and there were no witnesses.

        Yes I do know Reiser eventually led them to her body. At that point it would have been just to try him for murder, not before.

        To try someone for murder, without any evidence at all that the alleged victim is even dead, that is just wrong.

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:39AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:39AM (#182754)

          She committed adultery against him.
          Deuteronomy calls for her to be killed.

          He did nothing wrong.

          • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:46AM

            by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:46AM (#182756) Homepage Journal

            but I wiped it up afterward.

            What's your take?

            --
            Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 15 2015, @12:09AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 15 2015, @12:09AM (#183180)

              Deuteronomy doesn't care.

              I'm not a wowser american christian.
              That thing your citing was a story about a guy that was supposed to fuck his dead brothers woman because the dead brother had no kids with her and someone needed to inherit his name.
              The brother didn't want to and thus "dissed" his dead brother.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:49AM (#182770)

      So why are you so outspoken on the internet under your real name and social security number?

      You might get just as much attention under a pseudonym, while protecting your ability to earn a living.

      • (Score: 2, Troll) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:27AM

        by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:27AM (#182798) Homepage Journal

        because I stand behind my words.

        On the other hand - it sucks to be me.

        --
        Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday May 14 2015, @05:51PM

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday May 14 2015, @05:51PM (#183021) Journal

          because I stand behind my words.

          On the other hand - it sucks to be me.

           
          It sucks to be a person with an illness, or an abused minority, or even a Bangladeshi blogger.
           
          Dealing with the consequeces of voluntarily posting to the internet in the US does not meet the suckage bar.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:02AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:02AM (#182815)

        > So why are you so outspoken on the internet under your real name and social security number?

        Because he is a narcissist.

        > You might get just as much attention under a pseudonym, while protecting your ability to earn a living.

        Or... his postings don't really matter all that much other than to confirm what any interviewer already suspects.

  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @12:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @12:53AM (#182739)

    Good.

    When someone opposed to marrying girl children is killed it is a good thing. When they are killed painfully it is better.

    Marry young girls.

    Kill feminists.

    Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew

    +Other parts of deuteronomy.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:13AM

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:13AM (#182744) Journal

    Semantic overload on "hacking".

    Before jumping in with "get over it", consider a bit the... well... language hacking used (on purpose) as a political tool as mentioned in Orwell's 1984.
    While I do get it we aren't (yet?) at the stage of vocabulary reduction as a political tool, it may be there's no need for imposition: seems that we are pretty good in doing it onto ourselves.

    --
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:26AM (#182748)

      It's currently something different but similar. Rapidly construct a new vocabulary of terms and then shift which ones are appropriate to say and which ones aren't, all the while, gravitating toward the longer and more awkward to say ones.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @05:56AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @05:56AM (#182812)

        Rapidly construct a new vocabulary of terms and then shift which ones are appropriate to say and which ones aren't

        Got that, shifting in progress!
        Terrorist... Terrorist terrorist terrorist, terrorist thinkofthechildren SJW!!!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:29AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:29AM (#182751)

      To further elaborate, it's very hard to delete a word from a persons vocabulary once it's put there in place. That becomes a generational thing.

      You create a sense of stigma and shame around a word though, and once the right people latch on, it starts spreading rapidly.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:24AM (#182765)

      I think you need to remember better. We've always been hacking at Eastasia.

    • (Score: 2, Troll) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:31AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:31AM (#182800) Homepage Journal

      1984 was an extreme example, of what he really meant to defeat, fascist and communist propaganda.

      It is important to say what you really mean. It can be difficult to do so. It's easier in writing, if you spend some time away from your written work then come back to edit it. It's quite difficult to say what you really mean when speaking.

      --
      Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:24AM (#182819)

      You can either get over it or keep fruitlessly trying to enforce the original meaning, too few people care enough to make a dent in the minds of society. The allusion to 1984 is inappropriate through, the corruption of the meaning was not sinister, and you aren't being prevented from discussing the original concept.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by zugedneb on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:29AM

    by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday May 14 2015, @01:29AM (#182750)

    ... humans who wanted to fight the power gathered in shady cellars to plan, recruit and train, like true ninjas...
    In modern days, we have idiots...
    Everywhere, in every country, idiot human beings without training provoke dangerous and deranged people.
    In mexico they blog about the cartel.
    In middle east they blog anti fundamentalism.
    In west they blog anti capitalism...

    I ask this, why not go back to the old days?
    Say, when in a family of arabs immigrants stab the girl to death because she has a western boyfriend, why not some good arians with pristine white muscle get out and execute some imams?
    No fucking feminists, or humanitarians or faggot poets writing some limerick on freedom...
    Just arians and muscle...

    Man, i rally want to kill some imams now...
    But nowdays, even arians brothers are faggots. No more pristine white muscle...
    So sad...
    =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =)

    --
    old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @03:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @03:57AM (#182785)

      Say, when in a family of arabs immigrants stab the girl to death because she has a western boyfriend, why not some good arians with pristine white muscle get out and execute some imams?

      So, you don't have a problem with what they do, only who is doing it.
      Doesn't seem like a principle with much room to stand on.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by zugedneb on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:00AM

        by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:00AM (#182787)

        so, who else is doing it?
        in the part of the world I live, it is they...

        also, wtf with all these downmods?
        as fast as anyone mentions the dark side of humanity, some jesuswannabe takes to the mod broom...

        --
        old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:04AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:04AM (#182788)

          > >So, you don't have a problem with what they do, only who is doing it.
          >
          > so, who else is doing it?

          I am going to take that as violent agreement.

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by zugedneb on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:07AM

            by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:07AM (#182791)

            I do not understand your posts...
            but now that I think about what I have read in the news in the last few years, "arabs" must be substituted by "muslims" in general.
            It was a mistake by me not to write it so...

            Apart from muslims, I do not know other cultures that punish the woman that severely...

            --
            old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
            • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:18AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:18AM (#182795)

              > I do not understand your posts...

              Racist too stupid to realize he's racist.
              News at 11!

              • (Score: 2) by zugedneb on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:30AM

                by zugedneb (4556) on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:30AM (#182799)

                I would not call myself racist, since I do not reason in terms of race...
                However, definitely Culturalist, or maybe in some cases, nationalist.

                Also, I am not from USA, so my interpretation of Racist may not be the same as yours.
                Enlighten me, why not...

                --
                old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:04AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:04AM (#182816)

                  > However, definitely Culturalist, or maybe in some cases, nationalist.

                  Because a culture where "good arians with pristine white muscle get out and execute some imams" is so obviously superior.

                • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Thursday May 14 2015, @08:59PM

                  by isostatic (365) on Thursday May 14 2015, @08:59PM (#183117) Journal

                  You lost, your snivelling leader shot himself in 1945 after hiding in a cellar for months.

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:51AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:51AM (#182806) Homepage Journal

      Some of my very best friends are Muslims.

      --
      Yes I Have No Bananas. [gofundme.com]
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by GungnirSniper on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:03AM

    by GungnirSniper (1671) on Thursday May 14 2015, @02:03AM (#182758) Journal

    Your 'god' must be really insecure if he demands such punishments for slights that even other humans could laugh at. And if he's that insecure, he's no 'god' at all.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:30AM (#182820)

      Joke's on you buddy, my god is systemd! It's so secure that it's absolutely impossible to hack it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @03:43PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @03:43PM (#182949)

        Your god? I thought he was a daemon.

    • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:25PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Thursday May 14 2015, @06:25PM (#183038)

      He laughs at Matt Damon too.

      --
      "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
  • (Score: 1, Troll) by mendax on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:07AM

    by mendax (2840) on Thursday May 14 2015, @04:07AM (#182790)

    A blogger has been hacked to death. Wow...

    Now when I was in school and I hacked the university mainframe I did nothing than a little malicious mischief. But now these hackers have actually found a way to create code that kills people, code that kills people as they blog. The rootkitting scriptkiddies must be laughing so hard they're pissing in their pants.

    Oh... I have just been informed that this is a different kind of hacking.... so..... never mind.

    --
    It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by mendax on Thursday May 14 2015, @05:27AM

    by mendax (2840) on Thursday May 14 2015, @05:27AM (#182810)

    ... let's talk about something more serious.

    As I see it, any society that cannot tolerate open and honest discussions by people who mean well and intend only to improve society is mortally sick. We're getting there in this country. I hope we don't turn into another Bangladesh or Singapore.

    --
    It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mtrycz on Thursday May 14 2015, @08:43AM

      by mtrycz (60) on Thursday May 14 2015, @08:43AM (#182843)

      It's not society per se.

      A power group, which finds itself to be founded on religion*, is going straight to establish a reign of terror and submission, showing off their willingness to kill those with opposing views. So that the miserable that want to be "parto of a greater thing" will join them, and most of the others will be reduced to a complicit silence. We've seen it countless times before.

      * regiligion is not bad in itself, and not bound to become bad. But it is a great foundation for those who want to use it in this way.

      --
      In capitalist America, ads view YOU!
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @11:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 14 2015, @11:45AM (#182862)

      > As I see it, any society that cannot tolerate open and honest discussions by
      > people who mean well and intend only to improve society is mortally sick.
      > We're getting there in this country.

      Seems like you aren't much of a student of human psychology. Every single one of the worst most violent and destructive ideologies in the world have all meant well and only intended to improve society. Ask the white power people, they will tell you society will be better off without the mud people. Ask any anti-gay campaigner, they will tell you teh gays are a corrupting influence on society and think of the children!

      Shame on you for trying to equate the shunning of the odious with murder. Freedom of speech has never meant freedom from consequences.