from the watch-that-is-essential-to-breathing... dept.
You would probably say the same if you were Eric Migicovsky, who runs smartwatch maker Pebble, whose business model involves selling people computers to wear on their bodies.
Even so, Migicovsky's confidence in the wider trend fuelling that business is notable, at a time when despite Apple and Google's moves into the smartwatch market, there is still widespread scepticism about what exactly these devices are for.
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So, what are smartwatches for? Migicovsky compares the current state of the market with smartphones in 2007, in the early days of iPhone and Android.
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For smartwatches in 2015, those core use cases appear to be activity-tracking and notifications – 90% of Pebble owners use notifications every day, according to Migicovsky – with watch-face customisation also scoring highly in Pebble's case.
On paper the case for something like Google Glass becoming indispensible seems stronger. Is Pebble right?
Original Submission
(Score: 3, Insightful) by dltaylor on Friday July 17 2015, @04:51AM
I don't wear a watch of any kind. Why would I clutter up my arms with a stupidwatch just to see the notifications I can already hear/feel from my phone?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @05:13AM
I used to wear a watch. Prolonged use made my hand numb and caused pain. Thanks to my phone my watch was not as useful anymore so I stopped wearing it years back. My hand got better relatively quickly.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Berky on Friday July 17 2015, @05:28AM
I do not 'wear' a phone.
To me, a (classic) watch is both useful, and stylish.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Tork on Friday July 17 2015, @05:39AM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 2) by Dr Spin on Friday July 17 2015, @08:10AM
It is not so convenient if you are over 40, and your lenses have hardened - focussing on small, nearby objects, and then refocussing on distant objects is not convenient at all.
Also, if you go out and about, you will likely hit the damn thing causing hundreds of pounds worth of damage - typically getting in or out of a vehicle, but other ways of smashing watches exist, hence I gave up wearing one even before smart phones.
[If you are lucky, one day you will be as old as me]
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @08:37AM
Well, I'm over 40, started to wear a watch as a child and ever since wore one, and I didn't smash my watch even once. I also don't have problems to read my watch. Indeed, I can even read my watch if I intentionally blur my view of it. That's the advantage of a classic clock hands display; if you know what direction is up (which you can easily infer from the position of your arm) and in which directions the hands point (which isn't hard to recognize) you know what time it is.
A smartwatch, I don't have a use for.
(Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Friday July 17 2015, @02:55PM
The battery died in my watch and I kept forgetting to replace it, then I lost the watch. That was 1995 and I haven't missed it a bit. There's a clock on everything, everywhere you go.
As for vision, I'm getting closer to 50 and it's getting to be a real bitch -- a shuffle between my distance glasses, my reading glasses (both prescription), or no glasses, depending on size and distance. A smart watch for me would be a never ending headache.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Friday July 17 2015, @03:37PM
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 1) by Francis on Saturday July 18 2015, @05:21AM
Serious question. What do you use it for? Whenever I think of those types of devices I can't think of anything that's actually worth paying that kind of money for and dealing with the battery life issues over a normal watch.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday July 18 2015, @05:56AM
I bought the watch as a toy to play with not expecting it to become as useful as it did. Basically it not only means my phone spends a lot more time in my pocket, but it also means I check my email at work far less frequently. If my watch buzzes, I glance at it, and can tell it's one of my coworkers sending around another cat gif and not even need to open my my client.
What I'm describing is a little tiny thing that in my case happens often enough the time savings are worthwhile. If you don't need your messages that fast, you will not find the Pebble Watch terribly interesting.
One limitation of the Pebble Watch is that it cannot show me a full email. On the iPhone it only shows what turns up in your Notification Center. While this suffices, it is a significant limitation. I would love to have an Apple Watch because I believe it'd let me scroll through an entire message. I also think it'd show me photos that come through via text (I get enough of those to be wortwhile), the Pebble can't do that. I think calling Siri from my watch would be handy, I do use that feature quite a bit when I'm using my headphones. And I like the idea that the Apple Watch will some day use wifi to stay connected with my phone if BlueTooth goes out of range.
The problem I have is I see $250 worth of features there, not $400. *Maybe* if they get local apps running AND developers do something interesting with them. Until then I am quite happy with my $130 Pebble Watch. I charge it every Saturday and you can't get a better smartwatch to use in daylight.
Oh... one other thing. I often get telemarketing calls on my cell phone. It's nice to see the Caller ID with a turn of my wrist, I hate taking my phone out for that. I'm not really sure if the bigger benefit to me of this watch is the value it brings or the significant amount of time wastage it saves.
Slashdolt Logic: "25 year old jokes about sharks and lasers are +5, Funny." 💩
(Score: 4, Interesting) by captain normal on Friday July 17 2015, @05:49AM
45 years ago the hip thing to do was to toss away your watch just like Captain America (Peter Fonda) in the beginning of "Easy Rider". Wearing a watch symbolized being tied to corporate America. A slave to the clock, having to turn yourself in every morning and checking out every night. Not being tied to the watch meant you were free and living on your on time.
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @05:51AM
(Score: 3, Informative) by davester666 on Friday July 17 2015, @06:27AM
Really? A "good chance to get rolled" by pulling your phone out of your pocket.
First, I hope you also go out and buy lottery tickets, because it's only slightly more likely that you will be robbed in this fashion.
Second, if you live in an area where you are more likely to be rolled for flashing your phone, you are also going to be rolled for your watch. Or your wallet.
(Score: 2) by davester666 on Friday July 17 2015, @06:30AM
oops, quote was wrong "good way to get rolled", not "good chance".
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @07:57AM
(Score: 2) by Zinho on Friday July 17 2015, @02:57PM
It's a lot easier to have your phone snatched out of your hands because you couldn't resist looking at the latest notifications than it is to have a properly fastened watch ripped off your wrist or your pockets picked.
I'm not sure I agree with that, based upon an anecdote from my personal history.
I had a properly fastened watch stolen from my wrist as I walked down the street in a mid-sized Brazilian city I visited as a tourist. A street urchin simply jammed his finger between my wrist and the watch body (leaving quite a scratch, as the watch wasn't very loose) and pulled, shearing the watchband pin. Zero points for subtlety, but quite effective. For a thief willing to replace that sheared pin there's a lot of value in a smartwatch. Also, clever pickpockets are fully capable of removing a Rolex from your wrist without your notice; I'd say that if you're targeted that way your wallet and watch are about evenly at risk.
As a personal security note for those who have this happen to them, don't be stupid like me: I actually chased the kid down and got the watch back. Considering that it was a Timex Ironman watch that I could replace easily the risk of chasing a random kid down unfamiliar city streets was pretty dicey. If he'd had a group of thugs watching his back I might have run into an ambush and lost all the travelers' checks in my wallet for the low price of a club to the head or shiv in the ribs. Especially considering that the watch body got damaged in the process and wouldn't hold a pin properly afterwards, I really should have just let the kid have it.
"Space Exploration is not endless circles in low earth orbit." -Buzz Aldrin
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @03:40PM
(Score: 4, Interesting) by engblom on Friday July 17 2015, @08:44AM
A watch is very useful. If you would wear a good and comfortable watch for one month, you would not want to put it away. I am not talking about smartwatches but normal watches showing nothing more than the time and maybe the date.
A mobile phone requires too many steps for giving the time: Digging it out of the pocket, often the pocket you are sitting on, so even lifting up the butt is a step. Turn it around until it is right in your hands. Squeeze a button to unlock, maybe some gesture also. Lock it again, put it back into your pocket. This procedure you often have to do even while you drive your car and you want to know if you get to your destination in time.
For a wristwatch, you just glance down on your arm and you know if you need to speed up or slow down while driving.
Or take snorkeling as an example: I love to snorkel but as I had to be at a certain place at a certain time picking up someone with car, I needed to know the time while being in the water. Without a watch I would have had to run to the beach, dig out the smartphone and check the time, then back into the water again many times. That would have destroyed the joy of snorkeling that day.
A good watch will give you the time even if you have not had access to electricity for a long time (my watch is an automatic watch without battery). I am sure I am not the only one that have been getting the phone unlocked in the pocket with the camera flash running as flashlight sucking all battery. Even if you wear a normal watch running from battery, the battery often lasts many years, even up to 10 years in Casio watches.
(Score: 2) by Kromagv0 on Friday July 17 2015, @02:07PM
I couldn't agree more. I have a number of very good all mechanical watches and the one I use the most is a Benrus military watch. My only complaint with it at the moment is that it isn't an automatic winding watch. Apart from that it is a very good watch properly jeweled, accurate time (runs 3 seconds +-1 fast a day), got a sapphire crystal to replace the old plastic one, and it is a very simple and clean design with a black face white numbers and has a parkerized stainless steel case. I do have an automatic winding watch but I don't like it as much as it is a bit flashy with the more avant-garde styling found in mid 70's Zodiac watches. I like the pure function and simple styling of the Benrus and really don't like any of the modern men's mechanical watches as they are big, heavy, pay attention to me devices.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @02:54PM
I'm retired. I had an automatic self-winding watch but it kept stopping.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by KilroySmith on Friday July 17 2015, @05:20AM
As long as the designers are in their 30's, I'll never get a smartwatch. They haven't learned yet that the remarkable vision they have starts going to hell in their 40's, and those tiny little icons and text sizes are gonna turn into an indecipherable blur. The most remarkable thing about smartphones is the ability to change the system default font so I can READ THE DAMNED THING.
(Score: 2) by captain normal on Friday July 17 2015, @05:55AM
You don't want a Dick Tracy phone/tv watch?
"It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
(Score: 3, Funny) by Bogsnoticus on Friday July 17 2015, @06:53AM
Look at the angle and placement of your wrist when you hold it in such a way to be able to navigate your surroundings, and video chat at the same time. Now, think of where the camera on the watch will be pointing during a vid call.
Do you really want to examine the inside of my nostrils whilst talking to me via video-link on a smartwatch? 40-plus year old non-hipster nostrils, so the hairs (and boogers) aren't micromanaged to within a micron of their lives. Do you still want a Dick Tracey phone/tv watch?
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(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday July 17 2015, @11:49AM
Smartwatches could be great if they could implement some sort of eye-tracking holographic display. A 1.5 inch display just isn't enough.
Bendable OLEDs mean that you can have a band display wrapped around your wrist, but that's not much better.
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(Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Friday July 17 2015, @01:51PM
I'm pretty sure I saw a font size adjustment on my Android Wear watch. I'm also well ver 40 and have no trouble, with or without my glasses. That's just a single piece o data of course, but I do find it quite readable, as I did with my Pebble.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @05:49AM
Those pesky mothers just keep on giving birth to smartwatch-less infants!
Outrageous!
There should be a law!
(Score: 2) by khedoros on Friday July 17 2015, @06:12AM
"One Day, People Will Not Be Able to Live Without Their Smartwatch"
My phone's already a pain in the ass to keep charged, and if I'm out somewhere that I can't pull out my phone, I'm generally too busy to deal with whatever notifications come up anyhow. I'll let someone else be the one that can't live without a smartwatch; I'm sure they're out there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @07:52AM
So they say people will not be able to live without their smartwatch. Well, what could be the reason? Will they send out killers to eliminate everyone who isn't wearing a smartwatch? Or will it be something more indirect, like making sure that you cannot get food if you don't wear a smartwatch? Or maybe they will infect us all with nanobots which will kill us if we don't wear a smartwatch that keeps them under control?
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday July 17 2015, @03:34PM
No need to send killers, when you can just mind-control the people through their smartwatches.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by ThePhilips on Friday July 17 2015, @08:15AM
For smartwatches in 2015, those core use cases appear to be activity-tracking and notifications – 90% of Pebble owners use notifications every day, according to Migicovsky – with watch-face customisation also scoring highly in Pebble's case.
You know you are in a deep deep niche, if change of wallpaper is so high on the usage list. If the smartwatches were anywhere close to versatile, and loaded with immediately useful functions, a commonplace thing like customization wouldn't be even mentioned.
Otherwise, the smartphone alone is more than enough.
The only overly optimistic scenario of future irreplaceability of smartwatches, is the smartwatches replacing the smartphones. But I think any decent holographic/etc screen is still far far away. And you can't replace smartphones if you can't deliver the audio/visual content in a competing fashion.
IMO some form of lightweight VR goggles have much more chances in future than the smartwatches. Closer to headphones. Closer to the the eyes. Closer to the ears. A hand watch? It solves no problem.
(Score: 3, Informative) by mvdwege on Friday July 17 2015, @08:53AM
To show that you're wealthy. [wikipedia.org] D'oh!
(Score: 2) by Kromagv0 on Friday July 17 2015, @02:11PM
I thought it was to show that you are douche. Also it could mean you have more money that brains which does not mean you are rich.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by deimtee on Friday July 17 2015, @10:53AM
I think a lightweight civilian version of something like the "CopSpace" goggles in Charles Stross's novel Halting State would be much more useful, and much more likely to succeed in the marketplace.
Imagine glasses with cameras far more sensitive than your eyes, that can overlay an image to let you walk in near total darkness.
Built-in navigation aids that show you where to go.
Hazard identification and highlighting. This could be as simple as highlighting the edges of steps for people with poor vision.
Facial recognition that paints names on people. (I could use this, I am lousy at remembering names).
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(Score: 1) by rob_on_earth on Friday July 17 2015, @10:58AM
I love my pebble time. It helps me read texts and notifications at glance. voice replies to sms are fun. Its water proof and works with my android phone.
But best of all for free I can use the cloudpebble online IDE and using C or javascript code my own watch faces and apps, it even has browser based emulators and a download to watch feature.
FYI, it also tells the time and the battery lasts exactly 7 days.
(Score: 2, Touché) by maliqua on Friday July 17 2015, @03:45PM
my watch also tells time. IDK the battery life but its somewhere north of one year, I'll follow up with an update when the battery finally dies
(Score: 4, Interesting) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Friday July 17 2015, @11:11AM
Right now there's a whole lot of technology that may or may not be cool, but just isn't sticking. People are trying to find the next big thing after the iPhone, and it hasn't happened. What I don't see is a compelling reason to have any of this stuff. In 25 words or less, none of these things can explain why I must get one of these and use it. The iPhone had that. If you buy one, you get a tiny computer that does what a stack of other devices used to do, and it's a phone. If you buy a Google glass, you get - no one ever answered that. If you buy an Amazon echo, you get a creepy thing that listens to your conversations. If you buy a Pebble, you get a smartwatch that doesn't work well with Android. (I tried to develop for one once. Yuck.) We're not getting anything compelling right now. There's some mild interest in these new technologies, but they're not a must. Progress seems to be diffuse right now, with nothing really standing out. That means something big is probably just around the corner, something no one is currently anticipating.
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(Score: 2) by cafebabe on Friday July 17 2015, @10:43PM
I'm anticipating a particular development. Furthermore, as Alan Kay noted, the best way to predict the future is to invent it. That's why I've been working on it since Mar 2015. I won't say what it is but I'll leave these hashes: ce4a80f063acc6f7845fcd595b35bc32 and 32582cccc06bfa2b8266accd18514ed111029cd8. Even if I'm not the first to release it, I'll have some very small gratification that I was working towards it.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @11:21AM
“Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.”
― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 17 2015, @12:04PM
Yeah, it's indeed a stupid idea to put a watch on your digit. That's why I prefer wristwatches.
(Score: 2) by cafebabe on Friday July 17 2015, @10:21PM
Does that mean that ringwatches are out of fashion again?
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(Score: 1) by VeasMKII on Friday July 17 2015, @12:30PM
Why don't they try ubiquitous support for your watch first before spouting such nonsense. http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/14/pebble-windows-phone-app/ [engadget.com]
Haven't had any use other than time keeping out of my watch since I've had a Windows Phone. All because the company appears to have a personal gripe with Windows (even with Microsoft's support - https://gigaom.com/2015/02/25/microsoft-is-working-on-pebble-support-for-windows-phone/ [gigaom.com]).
So the consumer has to suffer. Good joib.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by hendrikboom on Friday July 17 2015, @04:57PM
The smart watch's notifications can be essential when you suffer from attention deficit. You see the notifications on the watch face, which you see often because it is on your wrist, and they stay there until you deal with them. This can alert you to essential activities, which can range from catching the bus to taking necessary medications.
A smart phone in your pocket isn't nearly as convenient for this.
(Score: 2) by TheLink on Friday July 17 2015, @07:08PM
What I'd want is the iSavant/Virtual Savant. A wearable device that will give me "savant-like" abilities and more.
Facial recognition, object recognition[1] and rapid counting (like in Rainman), eidetic memory, rapid math (look at a column of numbers, add them up), virtual telepathy and telekinesis (virtual telekinesis only in supported environments). See also: https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=5719&cid=135706#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
Once you get used to all that you might not be able to live without it. Heck if you have Alzheimer's you might literally not be able to live alone without it.
[1] Mil versions might have weapon recognition and camouflage countermeasures.