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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday September 01 2015, @02:34AM   Printer-friendly
from the we-only-want-your-network-not-your-currency dept.

The New York Times reports that several large banks, as well as the Federal Reserve, Bank of England, and the Nasdaq exchange are working on reusing the software ideas from Bitcoin to facilitate high-finance money transfers.

The Bitcoin network, on the other hand, is run by a decentralized network of users who jointly keep track of transactions and update the records in real time, with no single user or company in charge. The records of all transactions are kept on a public ledger — essentially just a big, publicly available spreadsheet — known as the blockchain that is visible to anyone and has, at least so far, proven impossible to tamper with.

Much of the work being done inside banks, and in other industries, is looking at whether the blockchain technology can be used independent of the Bitcoin virtual currency, which was the first thing to be recorded on the blockchain ledger.

This is probably not what anyone involved in Bitcoin had in mind, but open-source software tends to adapt to new applications extremely easily.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @02:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @02:58AM (#230615)

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

    Take that, bithipsters!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:14AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:14AM (#230626)

      That's what they want us to believe. Bithipsters hoarded it before it was cool cash.

  • (Score: 2) by Adamsjas on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:10AM

    by Adamsjas (4507) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:10AM (#230623)

    I can't imagine the banks allowing mining, and they would probably create all possible "coins" right away, distribute them and start bartering them back and forth in payment for loans and such. Then of course, there would come a time when it was necessary to mint up some more, the a little bit more, still more, till the whole thing is nothing than the mess we already have.

    Have we not learned that bankers can't be trusted to handle real things, let alone imaginary things?

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:24AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:24AM (#230629)

      OK then. If you don't trust banks, withdraw all your fucking money and stuff it under your mattress. Do it right now, or you're a hypocritical motherfucker. You're a motherfucker, aren't you? Aren't you? Motherfucker.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:46AM (#230640)

        Or deposit it in a credit union.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:59AM (#230642)

          No no no credit unions are evil because they pay interest and usury is immoral. So here's the deal. We gonna do another Occupy except this time we're all going to dress up as Jesus and kick the holy shit out of every fucking bank and credit union with our mighty sandals of holiness.

          • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:11AM

            by frojack (1554) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:11AM (#230664) Journal

            No no no credit unions are evil because they pay interest and usury is immoral.

            Usury is CHARGING interest. Paying interest isn't, especially when its a credit UNION, and the money goes to members.

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    • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:32AM

      by Zz9zZ (1348) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:32AM (#230671)

      They can't pervert crypto-currency, they would just have their own blockchain. Yes they would likely mine all the coins because bartering them back and forth IS the plan. As for "inflation" type scenarios, inflation is a necessary aspect of growth, just because it has been mishandled in the past (and present) doesn't mean the idea is wrong. I don't see how this could go badly unless there turns out to be a way to hack the blockchain.

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Snow on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:31PM

        by Snow (1601) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:31PM (#230902) Journal

        Except that defeats the entire purpose of the blockchain. The blockchain is supposed to be public knowledge, and easily verifiable. It get's its security from the fact that there is no single controlling power. The miners are independent. If the bank maintains their own version of a blockchain, then really, it's just a terribly inefficient SQL database.

        Now, if all the banks got together and collectively made their own blockchain, then we could be on to something. But... there would be a lot of competing interests and that would be neat impossible. If it's not decentralized, then just use a normal database... there is no advantage to use a blockchain.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:16AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:16AM (#230627)

    who is to say that in the sphere of plutocracy -aka- "high-finance" where a handful of decision makers control the
    global market (and standards) won't just have > 50% hashing rate from the get go?

    how is this different from technology that is used today?

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:32AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @03:32AM (#230633)

    Every bank should fail immediately. Your money is gone forever. Have fun trying to live your consumerist lifestyle without money.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @04:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @04:01AM (#230645)

      whoosh

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Zz9zZ on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:22AM

    by Zz9zZ (1348) on Tuesday September 01 2015, @05:22AM (#230667)

    Ignoring the issues with the banking industry, it is cool that a revolutionary idea is being embraced instead of extinguished. This isn't about bitcoin tech being ruined, it's about it being used for a useful purpose. They've been chasing quantum computers to provide security, but if an encrypted blockchain can do the trick, great! The details are still unknown, so I'm going to opt on the side of optimism and assume that this could benefit everyone with enhanced security.

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    ~Tilting at windmills~
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @06:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @06:39AM (#230680)

    It's already there at askemos [askemos.org]. (Though the project starved a bit waiting for user to understand that Merkle trees have value beyond currency.)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @08:27PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2015, @08:27PM (#230973)

    completely absurd.

    a decrepit industry goes through the cargo-cult-like motions of trying to copy innovation.

    I can picture a circle of executives whose only skill is cronyism putting out uninspired ideas that none of them can even judge as good or bad, and then them all pouncing on this one because it has many buzz words. such buzz. much bitcoin.

    for the uninitiated: the business of borrowing money short term and lending long term isn't viable and exists only because government (central banks) props them up.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @12:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 03 2015, @12:19PM (#231692)

    While not a financial service it makes use of the bitcoin originated ledger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namecoin [wikipedia.org]