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posted by n1 on Wednesday October 14 2015, @02:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the we're-working-on-it dept.

Mandatory data retention is set to begin on October 13th in Australia, but it doesn't look like many telecoms/ISPs are compliant:

Today, October 13th, is the day on which Australian telecommunications service providers are required to start retaining customer metadata in an orderly fashion determined by law, but fewer than ten are ready to do so and some have asked the government if they can store the data without encryption.

The legislation, co-sponsored by attorney-general George Brandis and former communications minister (now Australia's "agile" prime minister) Malcolm Turnbull, officially applies as of today, but a survey of members conducted by industry group the Communications Alliance suggests it remains a shambles.

Out of the 63 providers who responded to a survey conducted by the Alliance, nearly nobody knows what's actually going on: 84 per cent of them aren't yet compliant, just under 58 per cent had submitted their data retention implementation plans (DRIPs) to the department, and of those, nearly 76 per cent don't know if their plans have been rubber-stamped by the Communications Access Coordinator. So: around nine providers, presumably starting at the top where legal and technical resources abound, are fully compliant.

ABC reports on the plight of a small ISP and variance in compliance costs:

Craig runs a small ISP in regional Australia and his business will not be ready to collect metadata.

He said he had begun the lengthy process to explain to the Government how the data will be retained, but it was taking too much time and was putting the business at risk. "We've now reached 400 pages of this document [the DRIP]. It's a very complicated process and it's eating into our profitability," he said. "The amount of time we're spending on it is so high that it has become an unviable thing to continue on. "We have to look after our clients, customers and keep working."

[...] There is a huge variance in estimates for the cost to business of implementing data retention - 58 per cent of ISPs say it will cost between $10,000 and $250,000; 24 per cent estimate it will cost over $250,000; 12 per cent think it will cost over $1,000,000; some estimates go as high as $10 million.

Previously: Data Retention in Australia: Still a Shambles Ahead of October Rollout


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From Australia: Legislation for Counter Piracy and Data Retention 11 comments

Two items of news from Australia which mirror similar stories from other countries in the West.

Australian legislation to counter piracy finally released

Kept under wraps until this morning [Mar 26], the site-blocking elements of the Copyright Amendment (Online Infringement) Bill 2015 are likely to please rights holders with their significant reach. The bill, which is set to cost telcos about $130,000 a year, contains no cap on the number of websites rights holders can request a judge to block in a single injunction.

Critics of the regime are likely to argue that having no cap on the scheme could result in what happened in India, where a number of legitimate websites were blocked, including Google services, when a judge agreed to block some 472 websites. An updated judgement fixed the error. But it appears consumers and rights groups won't be able to apply to a court to revoke blocks, as they are not listed as one of the types of parties that can do this.

The competition watchdog, the ACCC, and the communications regulator, the ACMA, are the only people envisaged by the government to be able to apply to revoke a block other than the people behind a blocked site, an internet service provider asked to block it, or a rights holder.

Mandatory Data Retention Becomes Law in Australia

The Australian Parliament has passed a series of amendments to the country's Telecommunications Interception and Access Act 1979, requiring "telecommunications service providers to retain for two years telecommunications data (not content) prescribed by regulations". The Coalition government and Labor party joined forces to pass the laws, ignoring a number of last-minute amendments from the Greens and other senators.

The Register reports that Attorney-General George Brandis continues to misrepresent the data retention requirement:

Brandis told ABC Radio's AM program this morning that “nothing is different to the way it has been for the last 20 years or so”. Yet Telstra recently told a Parliamentary Committee that it doesn't record IP addresses or missed call records for users of its mobile networks. So Telstra is clearly being asked to do something new.

The AM interview we've linked to above is worth a listen because Brandis, six months into the metadata debate, still can't speak with authority on the subject. He jitters and struggles to articulate his position. At times he makes little sense, such as when asked why we need metadata retention when there are so many alternative communications media for ne'er-do-wells to use. His response is that criminals always break the law and will continue to do so despite the new legislation.

Left unsettled is the cost of metadata retention to ISPs, which recently led them to write an open letter to George Brandis. One report suggests a cost of AU$3.98 per subscriber per year.

Data Retention in Australia: Still a Shambles Ahead of October Rollout 5 comments

Australia's Attorney-General's Department hasn't worked out when money to support telcos' and ISPs' data retention efforts will start to flow.

The department, left in the hands of Grand Sysadmin George Brandis in Malcolm Turnbull's cabinet reshuffle, has been criticised by the Communications Alliance for being vague about the funding arrangements.

The industry had asked for government funding to help it adjust to the demands of data retention, which require the collection of user IP addresses, e-mail headers, and similar data. This has to be stored and secured for a minimum of two years, accessible to whichever agencies the government decides to grant access to.

It seems ISPs will have to take the "garden shed" storage option if they haven't the spare cash for data retention, because the government doesn't know when its promised support package will commence.

Alliance CEO John Stanton told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's AM radio program the best advice available from the AGD is that the money – AU$131 million allocated for this financial year – will flow sometime in this financial year.


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2015, @05:53PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2015, @05:53PM (#249531)

    ˙sıɥʇ ǝʞıן sʞooן uoıʇɐɯɹoɟuı pǝɹnʇdɐɔ ǝɥʇ

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by aristarchus on Wednesday October 14 2015, @06:30PM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday October 14 2015, @06:30PM (#249550) Journal

      This certainly explains why I could not get any data from the Australian website I was trying to connect to: they were retaining all the data! I may be wrong about this, but is this how the internets is supposed to operate?

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday October 14 2015, @07:07PM

        by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Wednesday October 14 2015, @07:07PM (#249572) Journal

        That's how it is ɹǝpun uʍop

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2015, @09:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2015, @09:59PM (#249671)

        That actually happened. On Tuesday night the internet lagged for everyone. My ISP flicked the switch to emable the logging.. and disabled it 3 hours later.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2015, @10:02PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 14 2015, @10:02PM (#249674)

    Everyone I have spoken to now usesa VPN.

    On the bright side, we are now more secure in our privacy thanks to the recent VPN uptake. This... was.. the intended outcome, right?

  • (Score: 1) by Didz on Friday October 16 2015, @04:30AM

    by Didz (1336) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 16 2015, @04:30AM (#250413) Homepage

    Want communications without data retention? Join a community network like the wireless groups.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region [wikipedia.org]
    (There is some idiot who keeps removing 95% of the list on Wikipedia tho)

    Air-Stream in South Australia http://air-stream.org/ [air-stream.org]
    WACAN in Western Australia http://www.wacan.asn.au/ [wacan.asn.au]
    Melbourne Wireless in Victoria http://melbourne.wireless.org.au/ [wireless.org.au]
    Canberra Wireless http://www.cwn.net.au/ [cwn.net.au]

    If there isn't one near you start your own and put up an access point for others to see.