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posted by n1 on Wednesday November 25 2015, @04:02AM   Printer-friendly
from the upstart dept.

TIME Magazine reports:

With eleven days left to go before TIME's 2015 Person of the Year poll[1] come to a close, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, the upstart candidate for president, holds a wide lead over global notables among TIME readers even as he trails Hillary Clinton in voter polls and fights a long-shot battle for the Democratic nomination.

The self-described "democratic socialist" currently leads Malala Yousafzai, the Nobel Peace Prize-winning activist, with 11% in the TIME reader poll compared with her 5%. Sanders also leads Pope Francis and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Barack Obama and is far ahead of entertainers like Adele (2%) and Jennifer Lawrence (1.7%).

[...] Hillary Clinton has earned 1.3 % of the vote.

[...] Sanders is also beating Donald Trump in the reader poll.

[...] Voting on the reader's choice poll ends Dec. 4 at 11:59 p.m. and the winner will be announced Dec 7.

[1] JavaScript-driven

While TIME says that Hillary's popularity in national voter polls is still higher than Bernie's, they fail to mention that Hillary's numbers are slipping while Bernie's numbers continue to climb.


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The Inquisitr reports:

On [December 7], Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders won the readers' poll for TIME's Person of the Year, which was conducted online.

The 74-year-old Senator won by [a] landslide, beating out other world-renowned leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, and even U.S. President Barack Obama.

[...] Bernie Sanders won [with] more than 10 percent of the total online votes, while his closest contender, Malala Yousafzai, a young Pakistani activist that fights for the education rights of girls in her country, only got 5.2 percent of the votes.

Aside from beating the U.S. president in the online poll, Bernie Sanders also overran his toughest competitors: Donald Trump (1.8%) and Hillary Clinton (1.4%).

[...] No U.S. presidential candidate has ever won the Person of the Year award prior to the results of the election. However, the fact that Sanders topped the poll is testament that there are still people who will choose to go for someone with whom they share similar views as opposed to someone who is "popular". [Submitter's quote marks; see "Nate Silver", below]

But while Sanders' cause may be noble, which is mostly likely why he earned the top spot in the Person of the Year online poll, it wasn't enough for him to take home the prize. Reportedly, Sanders' name was taken out of the short list from which the editors of TIME [were] supposed to make their choice for Person of the Year.

[...] TIME released the names of the eight finalists for the annual award on [December 8] [...] Sanders and his runner-up Yousafzai were not included in the list of finalists. The finalists included Putin, Trump, Rouhani, former Olympian and transgender Caitlyn Jenner, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Uber CEO Travis Kalanick, Black Lives Matter activists, and Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, leader of jihadist group Islamic State.

On [December 9], TIME announced the winner during NBC's Today show. Angela Merkel was the unanimous choice of the TIME editors, making her the second individual woman to ever win the award.

The editors second choice was Trump.

This complete disregard for the readers' poll is hardly unprecendented, as demonstrated by the results from 2006:
Hugo Chavez wins "Person of the Year" poll; Time magazine ignores result

Unsurprising to many, AlterNet reports that Trump's presence in corporate media's coverage of the presidential contest is wildly disproportionate to his acceptance by USAian voters.

Trump's true level of support, [according to phenomenally accurate pollster Nate Silver, is] 6 percent to 8 percent of the electorate--or roughly "the same share of people who think the Apollo moon landings were faked", the pollster said.

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  • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @04:06AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @04:06AM (#267863)

    Let's review your past choices.

    G W Bush: warmongering murderous evil dictatorial tyrant
    B H Obama: warmongering murderous evil dictatorial tyrant

    You stupid fuckers sure do love to vote for evil.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Frost on Wednesday November 25 2015, @07:08AM

      by Frost (3313) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @07:08AM (#267913)

      I've been toying with the idea of a bumper sticker saying, "Bernie Sanders: Not A Lizard," but now I'm not so sure. Is he a lizard? He is, isn't he?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:01AM (#267940)

      > You stupid fuckers sure do love to vote for evil.

      The Time Person of the Year Award is not about good or bad, it is about having a big place in history.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:07AM (#267942)

        How many Sharks with Lasers can I buy for ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @01:48PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @01:48PM (#267984)

        That used to be the case, but that hasn't been true since 2001. When it was being floated that Bin Laden was being considered that year, the conservative right made a shitstorm over it which turned into bad PR, and in the end they gave it to Bush. They tried to put a positive spin on it, but it was made very clear that you cannot consider any "bad" people any more, and they've stuck to that.

        I'm too lazy to google it for you, but I think they even re-worded the criteria after that to give themselves a bigger loophole to go through so that they wouldn't end up in such an embarrassing situation again.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:11PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:11PM (#267992)

          Well they gave it to Putin in 2007 and I doubt it was because he's such a great guy.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by dgeiser13 on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:08PM

      by dgeiser13 (5964) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:08PM (#267990)

      Hitler was their person of the year in 1938 according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org].

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:18PM (#267995)

        Wooosh!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @03:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @03:10PM (#268014)

      "A pox on both political parties" posts are ALWAYS modded up.

      That doesn't mean they're not absolute nonsense, as parent is.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @04:09AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @04:09AM (#267864)

    Sad, but true

  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 25 2015, @05:55AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @05:55AM (#267890) Journal

    What do we always say about web polls? Something that came down from green site, when it was wise. Remember?

    This whole thing is wildly inaccurate. Rounding errors, ballot stuffers, dynamic IPs, firewalls. If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.

    Potemkin Village. In the news lately. Good thing to know about. But, feel the Bern, anyway.

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:03AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:03AM (#267896) Homepage Journal

      #ihatehashtags

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      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:54AM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:54AM (#267909) Journal

        MDC, I hashtagged nothing! Did I? What, do we have auto-hashtagging, which is likely to cause at least as much trouble as auto-correct, and auto-I-knew-what-you-were-trying-to-do, Dave, so I cannot open the pod bay doors? Well, do we?

        Point being, only one pole matters, and that is the Galactic Pole, the one we all and sundry circle around. It is the vector of our being, no matter what our solar system or individual planet decides to do. We are all aligned. Bernie is aligned. So in the only poll that matters, the truth will out, unless Diebold gets there first.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by Thexalon on Wednesday November 25 2015, @12:11PM

          by Thexalon (636) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @12:11PM (#267957)

          Point being, only one pole matters, and that is the Galactic Pole

          Not true: There's a pole that's very important for that nice young lady who's just trying to earn money for college.

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        • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Thursday November 26 2015, @02:49AM

          by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Thursday November 26 2015, @02:49AM (#268221) Homepage Journal

          "Yeah, that sounds familiar. I also suffer from Remote Neutral Monitoring."

          "I'm not familiar with Remote Neutral Monitoring. Can you tell me more about it?"

          "There's a radio implanted in my head that controls my mind."

          "Why so?"

          "I'm caught in the middle between two sides of a war. NO ONE IS ON MY SIDE!"

          "I'm on your side. Is there anything I can do to help?"

          "I could use some kind of helmet."

          "Here, take one of these. Perphenazine won't remove the radio in your head but it will dampen its signal for a few hours."

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @02:17PM (#267994)

      > What do we always say about web polls? Something that came down from green site, when it was wise. Remember?

      Which is why the poll does not determine the winner. It is a PR stunt to get people on the site and sell ad impressions. The editors make the choice. In 2006 Hugo Chavez won the online poll but Time gave it to Putin.

    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday November 25 2015, @03:34PM

      by isostatic (365) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @03:34PM (#268022) Journal

      If you're using these numbers to do anything important, you're insane.

      The problem with the old site's warning from over 15 years ago was it assumed people were generally sane.

      They were wrong.

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:53PM

        by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:53PM (#268095) Journal

        The problem with the old site's warning from over 15 years ago was it assumed people were generally sane.

        They were wrong.

        Or perhaps they were right, in the way the ancients often are, and it is our interpretation that screws the pooch. Maybe it was not a warning, maybe it was a prediction. And lo, even this has come to pass!

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by tibman on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:03AM

    by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 25 2015, @06:03AM (#267895)

    Requires you to have a facebook or twitter account to cast a vote. Just FYI!

    I have neither : / But currently Bernie is at 12.6% and Clinton at 1.2%

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @08:31AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @08:31AM (#267925)

    this is a joke poll right?

    coming 6th is 'Refugees'

    anyone who thinks this poll means anything is a moron

    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday November 25 2015, @03:33PM

      by isostatic (365) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @03:33PM (#268020) Journal

      coming 6th is 'Refugees'
      anyone who thinks this poll means anything is a moron

      Wonkypedia:

      Person of the Year (called Man of the Year until 1999[1]) is an annual issue of the United States news magazine Time that features and profiles a person, group, idea or object that "for better or for worse...has done the most to influence the events of the year".[2]

      It's fair to say that refugees have done a fair bit to influence events of the year, although that's more of a Europe thing (equally KFC have done nothing special this year globally, and over here Donald Trump is the "racist guy who looks like Boris Johnson")

      Remember Hitler got Man of the Year in 1938, Stalin in 1939 and 1942, King Faisal in 1974. Bin Laden really should have won in 2001.

      I'd put my nominations as

      Putin
      ISIS
      Refugees
      Hollande (too soon to say if there's a big impact there)
      Merkel (strong at the start of the year, not so much recently)

      With the top two being Refugees and Putin.

      But this is from a european perspective rather than a global perspective. American politicians, certainly not ones who want to be elected in 12 months time, are not influencing world events to any large scale

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday November 25 2015, @09:17PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @09:17PM (#268141)

        Neither "ISIS" nor "Refugees" is a person.

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        • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:21PM

          by isostatic (365) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:21PM (#268156) Journal

          Neither was "The American fighting-man" in 1950, or "The Computer" in 1982, or "The Protester" in 2011. There are more examples.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:22PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:22PM (#268157)

          In 1983, Time's ____ of the year was the computer.

          -- gewg_

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:36AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 25 2015, @10:36AM (#267948)

    SANDERSCAKE ALSO THE GAME

  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday November 25 2015, @05:16PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday November 25 2015, @05:16PM (#268062)

    Reality Check #1. The Time 'Person/Entity/Hashtag of the Year' is just a stunt to move magazines in an end of the year issue normally in a quiet time newswise. It is going to be picked based on that, the ability of the selection to move units.

    Reality Check #2. Bernie Sanders is NOT going to be picked. He is a quirky 'colorful' gadfly who has afflicted politics in a minor way for a long time but had zero impact to date and has no plan to begin now. Slightly more important than Vermin Supreme or the 'Rent is too damned high' Guy but not by much. In ten years nobody who isn't a pure political junky will remember his name, including 90% of the people waving his name around on signs. Ms. Clinton needed a token challenger and Sanders was willing to play his role to get some face time to promote his pet issues a bit. Without him Hillary would be entirely out of the media cycle until the summer except for occasional mention of her crimes and past incompetence.

    • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday November 25 2015, @08:19PM

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday November 25 2015, @08:19PM (#268124) Journal

      I wish I though you were too cynical.

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