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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the pissing-people-off-makes-them-wanna-work-with-you dept.

GitHub has promised to pay better attention to the concerns of users.

In January, more than 1,100 project maintainers complained the popular code-host was ignoring them.

Now, GitHub's Brandon Keepers has taken the first tentative step to try and soothe the seething masses.

Here's his letter in full:

We hear you and we're sorry. We've been slow to respond to your letter and slow to respond to your frustrations.

We're working hard to fix this. Over the next few weeks we'll begin releasing a number of improvements to Issues, many of which will address the specific concerns raised in the letter. But we're not going to stop there. We'll continue to focus on Issues moving forward by adding new features, responding to feedback, and iterating on the core experience. We've also got a few surprises in store.

Issues haven't gotten much attention from GitHub these past few years and that was a mistake, but we've never stopped thinking about or caring about you and your communities. However, we know we haven't communicated that. So in addition to improving Issues, we're also going to kick off a few initiatives that will help give you more insight into what's on our radar. We want to make sharing feedback with GitHub less of a black box experience and we want to hear your ideas and concerns regularly.

We'll be in touch next week. Sorry it's taken so long, and thank you for everything.

—GitHub

The behaviour of Issues on GitHub was the first item on the insurrectionists' list.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by isostatic on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:41PM

    by isostatic (365) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:41PM (#305145) Journal

    Software as a service, I'm not a fan.

    • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:53PM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:53PM (#305148)

      The nice thing about open protocols is that it's easy to switch though. With their recent behaviour, I'm hoping lots of people do.

      • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:07PM

        by Gravis (4596) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:07PM (#305169)

        github has a nice interface that others have not managed to come close to replicating. if they did that, people might switch but nobody goes looking to make their life harder.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:26PM

          by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:26PM (#305181)

          The problem, IMHO, isn't they have a nice interface and others don't, it's people got use to it and don't like change.

          As I said below, I'm currently on GitLab now. It took some adjusting, but I actually prefer their interface and tools over what GitHub offers. One example, GitLab allows for private repos, for free, where I like to start projects that might not go anywhere or tool around with an idea. You have to pay for that with GitHub.

          A counter example I like more with GitHub is you can create a table of contents on the wiki with __TOC__ and that doesn't seem to work with GitLab.

          For a lot of people GitHub, or GitLab, or BitBucket are just a warehouses. Different ways of accessing them, but their primary purpose is just to hold stuff.

          --
          "Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
          • (Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:47PM

            by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:47PM (#305433)

            If you like the github wiki, it's pretty easy to run as a local or server instance.
            Take a look at gollum

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @06:57AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @06:57AM (#305642)

            gitlab is gud

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:19PM

        by VLM (445) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:19PM (#305178)

        There's always bundling to prevent that. Somehow in the non-technical marketplace git is no longer a CLI distributed VCS but a wiki host and a bug tracker and webhost and all kinds of stuff that has nothing to do with git technically, although is often enough found in close proximity.

        So when a technical person talks about setting up git, he means using a ssh: url in the url field of a .git/config file or at most, setting up gitolite or its competitors. Its like 10 minutes work, and if non-public facing its basically zero maint.

        When a business MBA hears talk about setting up git, he's all "Its uneconomical for you to maintain mediawiki and wordpress and RT and who knows what else, so you'll have to continue to contract out for git"

        Its kind of sad that a primary goal of git was being distributed, yet there's so many people putting uncountable manhours of work into removing that feature so they can extract a middleman profit. Sad.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:46PM (#305432)

        Fuck you

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:36PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:36PM (#305188)

      Especially when it is a free service. Ask users of google services that have just suddenly disappeared.

      --
      "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
      • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:09PM

        by isostatic (365) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:09PM (#305233) Journal

        If you're not paying, you're not the customer.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:38PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:38PM (#305261)

          That is why they don't accept payment. Once you accept payment, you are in a contract.

        • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:58PM

          by nitehawk214 (1304) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:58PM (#305345)

          If all the users suddenly switch to another service, they would stop getting ad revenue or the ability to sell your private info or whatever their revenue model is. They need to at least pretend to care, and in a way that isn't a transparent lie like GitHub.

          Sure, the users aren't the customer, but it isn't like they don't matter at all. When you get to near-monopoly levels such as Youtube, you see how openly hostile they are to their own users. Eventually they will fix this issue or something will come up to replace Youtube.

          --
          "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:53PM

    by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @12:53PM (#305149)

    You mean focusing on gender politics and ideological driven Codes of Conducts [todogroup.org] isn't what users were asking for?

    Say it ain't so... Meh, I've already migrated my projects off anyway. GitHub went down the tubes when meritocracy stopped being it's driving force.

    --
    "Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:18PM (#305158)

      Where to?

      • (Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:28PM

        by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:28PM (#305161)

        We moved over to GitLab, but I'm thinking requesting to switch again to BitBucket. I hear they're pretty good. I'd just set up my own Git server, but I'm lazy and don't want to maintain it and it's easier for bigger teams to just use an existing service that have tools to manage the projects in place already.

        --
        "Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by nitehawk214 on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:41PM

          by nitehawk214 (1304) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:41PM (#305190)

          I use BitBucket and rather prefer its user interface over GitHub. However, I am more familiar with it, and have been an Atlassian customer for years and remote Jira integration was one of big features for us. We are on one of their smallest paid plans and enjoy it.

          Not all of these reasons is valid for everyone. But at least it is free to try and easy to convert between git repositories.

          --
          "Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
        • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:15PM

          by SanityCheck (5190) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:15PM (#305208)

          You can get self-hosted BitBucket et al for one time fee I believe. I use BitBucket as well, but not self hosted. It does lack some things that GitHub has, like the release option, but it is still functional.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:25PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:25PM (#305305)

            Apparently they give free licenses to 'qualified [atlassian.com]' open-source projects. Took a while to find out what they meant by that, they hide it well.

        • (Score: 2) by mechanicjay on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:04PM

          by mechanicjay (7) <{mechanicjay} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:04PM (#305287) Homepage Journal
          I'm running GitLab internally for a couple thousand users. After the initial setup, I spend almost zero time administering the system.
          --
          My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bradley13 on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:44PM

        by bradley13 (3053) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:44PM (#305192) Homepage Journal

        Can speak for the earlier poster, but I use GitLab privately, and I've migrated our work repositories to BitBucket. It is also possible to run GitLab on your own servers.

        --
        Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:03PM (#305153)

    I'm sorry /whack/ that I behave /whack/ the way I do /whack/. It's /whack/ because I love /whack/ you! I promise /whack/ to do better /whack/. I promise /whack/ to be a better /whack/ person /whack/ and change the way /whack/ I act. Can't you see /whack/ that I love /whack/ you? I only do this /whack/ because I don't want anything /whack/ bad to happen /whack/ to you /whack/!

    Sincerely,
    Your abusive boyfriend
    WHACK!

    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @01:37PM (#305165)

      The above post illustrates why a Code of Conduct should be the top priority, if not the only priority.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Vanderhoth on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:16PM

        by Vanderhoth (61) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:16PM (#305174)

        I actually don't have an issue with ALL codes of conducts (code of merit [github.com] for example), but some are pure BS intended to give some people undue weight and control over a project. The Contributors Covenant and the TODO groups Open Code of Conduct are two that come to mind that are designed by ideologically driven people for ideologically driven people.

        That said, I don't see the point, which is why I like the No Code of Conduct [github.com]. If someone in the community is acting like an ass, the community can choose, without a CoC, to excommunicate them. We're adults and can decided if someone is legitimately a problem or if someone is legitimately just looking for non-issues to complain about.

        If all a CoC is going to be used for is so some hipster can dig through the twitter or facebook or other comment history of someone they don't like to find something offensive (out of context of course) to use to have that person removed, as was the case with the Opal farce [github.com] and the FreeBSD community [reddit.com], then it's rather pointless to have one. You're just enabling the abuser rather than the abused.

        The OP's comment had nothing to do with a CoC though. They were illustrating how GitHub has abused it's user base and is now claiming it was only for their interest and they'll do better in the future.

        --
        "Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:29PM (#305258)

        Code of Conduct is not enough, it must be a real code of conduct+kindness [pastebin.com]! Just read it, and I'm sure you will want it!

        -- SoylentBob

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:29PM (#305308)

          My projects are already using the Developer's Open Niceness Guarantee, can I combine the DONG with the CoCK?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:40PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:40PM (#305320)

            Certainly. But I would presume that most Progressive, Upstanding Society-Supporting Youngsters would prefer the Code Of Conduct + Kindness.

            -- SoylentBob

    • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:17PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:17PM (#305176) Journal

      Sincerely,
      Your abusive boyfriend

      Heh, when I was reading that, I was imagining a social justice troll/white knight-type being whipped by a feminist extremist sort of like that scene from Gurren Lagann where Viral [wikipedia.org] is practically begging Adiane the Elegant [wikipedia.org] to let him join her squad.

      I think I'll go with my version and ignore the two lines I quoted!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:26PM (#305239)

      That's pretty whack.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by bart9h on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:29PM

    by bart9h (767) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:29PM (#305183)

    “We’ve waited years now for progress on any of them. If GitHub were open source itself, we would be implementing these things ourselves as a community—we’re very good at that!”

    So why don't you quit whining and use an open source git hosting already? There are plenty out there.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:49PM

    by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2016, @02:49PM (#305196)

    This is the 4th anti-Github article on Soylent in the last week. All in various ways complaining about the fact that Github is as a matter of policy trying to become more female and less white.

    I get it: There are a lot of Soylentils who really really really don't like those policies. But Github is a private organization that can set any legally permissible policy they like, their policies are in fact legally permissible, and the solution to your problem is to not use it and instead set up and manage your own git repo on your own server. It's not like Github's role in your development cycle can't be easily duplicated on your own box [git-scm.com].

    --
    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:38PM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:38PM (#305223)

      This one is actually about them not responding to users actual complaints about missing features, etc. Of course, those previous articles probably explain why.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:43PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:43PM (#305263) Journal

        Awful lot of Offtopic posts, then.....

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:51PM

          by Nerdfest (80) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @05:51PM (#305265)

          In this case, absolutely. Personally though, I have no problem with people spreading information on disagreeable (in their opinion) behaviour on companies, whether it be Microsoft, Apple, Sony, or in this case, GitHub. Much of the value of this site is people's opinions.

    • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:56PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:56PM (#305229) Journal

      …The solution to your problem is to not use it and instead set up and manage your own git repo on your own server.

      Done! Confirmed that setting up git-daemon is a breeze. I'd also like to report that my git users are all women… and we're systemd free!

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Tuesday February 16 2016, @08:48PM

        by HiThere (866) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @08:48PM (#305388) Journal

        There's an old cartoon with the caption "On the Internet no one knows you're a dog!".

        How do you know they're all women?

        --
        Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
        • (Score: 3, Funny) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:35PM

          by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:35PM (#305427) Journal

          I've met them personally. (Granted, this is 5 users, but hey, where's my diversity award?!)

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:10PM

      by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:10PM (#305234) Journal

      SoylentNews uses Github: https://github.com/SoylentNews/rehash/issues [github.com]

      --
      [SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
    • (Score: 1) by Capt. Obvious on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:44PM

      by Capt. Obvious (6089) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:44PM (#305431)

      There's no reason to ever invoke "Xs a private organization that can set any legally permissible policy they like". I don't see anyone calling for a police raid. Some people are saying "boycott X", and some people are saying "X is wrong, and should change." Both are permissible and healthy.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday February 17 2016, @04:54PM

        by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 17 2016, @04:54PM (#305840)

        Yes there is: I've regularly encountered people arguing in favor of their freedom to use another organization's service in a way that that organization doesn't like. For example, people complaining that Twitter is taking away their First Amendment rights,

        --
        The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
        • (Score: 1) by Capt. Obvious on Wednesday February 17 2016, @07:08PM

          by Capt. Obvious (6089) on Wednesday February 17 2016, @07:08PM (#305887)

          I don't see anything wrong with that. If they put up a service open to all, than they shouldn't be able to limit it by political belief, or other things. Twitter held themselves up as a common carrier.

          While the First Amendment doesn't apply to corporations, there are definitely limits on what they can do. For instance, Twitter cannot decide that white people are not allowed to use it because they are white.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:14PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:14PM (#305207)

    Ooooh, that sounds so counter-culture-y makes me feel like a cool dude.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @05:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @05:46AM (#305614)

      I think Anonmoos Cowhard is a cool guy.
      eh fights SJVVs, and conform abut anythin.

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:25PM (#305216)

    The problem is that most Codes of Conduct don't go far enough.

    The idea of a "meritocracy" is false. When some white, privileged, college-educated "Computer Science Major" tries to judge me and judge my code, I feel violently nauseated.

    It's an act of aggression to judge me and my code. Who are you to judge? Who gives you the right? How dare you? HOW FUCKING DARE YOU.

    A real Code of Conduct would allow ALL COMMITS by members of oppressed groups to be accepted without the aggressive patriarchal "judgement" they usually receive. The world would be a better place, and we wouldn't have to deal with all of your bullshit anymore.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:33PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:33PM (#305218)

      Sorry, meant to say

      A real Code of Conduct would allow ALL COMMITS TO BE ACCEPTED INTO THE MAIN BRANCH WITHOUT REVIEW OR CRITICISM by members of oppressed groups to be accepted...

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:58PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:58PM (#305230)

        Different AC here.

        I think I'm having a Poe's Law moment here. Were you serious or joking? I'm having a bit of trouble telling.

        In case you're serious, the microprocessor that runs your compiled code doesn't care whether executing your code results in the expected output; your maintainer does, and should.

        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:36PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:36PM (#305242)

          think I'm having a Poe's Law moment here.

          That's the problem with this whole discussion.

          Even the most ludicrous suggestions ("don't evaluate or judge my code! let's hope the airplane doesn't crash on takeoff because of some horrible commit") seem plausible, and to a certain class of people, desirable.

          We'd rather be politically correct than programmatically correct, it would appear.

        • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:42PM

          by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @07:42PM (#305322) Journal

          In case you're serious, the microprocessor that runs your compiled code doesn't care whether executing your code results in the expected output; your maintainer does, and should.

          Oh trust me. You just can't reason with social justice trolls, especially radical feminists. Certified cis het male shitlord here! It was about 7 years ago now I think that I first became aware of this notion being promulgated among radical feminists that the microprocessor running the code somehow knows or is else designed (by my fellow cis het male shitloards) to produce incorrect answers when the code is input by a womyn-born-womyn. Once it detects an assigned male at the keyboard, then it begins to give the right answers.

          What's even more surreal about this notion is that their line of reasoning goes this way. 1.) Ada Lovelace was a womyn-born-womyn. 2.) Ada Lovelace wrote the world's first computer program (debatable imo but even if not true does not detract from the progress she helped make to legitimize women as credible scientists and mathematicians). 3.) Computers are designed overwhelmingly by assigned males. 4.) Womyn-born-womyn have extraordinary difficulties when programming computers¹ (!). 5.) Assigned males are rapists and oppressors whether engaged in the physical act of copulation or the metaphysical act of appropriating the female form for themselves (all the better to rape and oppress with, I guess, and can't have some buzzkill like me running around with any legitimacy as a woman demonstrating over and over again that the computer does not fucking care about one's demographic). Conclusion: assigned males must have done something when weaving the dark magicks and calling upon the evil one (the Wiccan Dianist male god) in order to explicitly cause computers to give the right answers when programmed by an assigned male and the wrong answers when programmed by a womyn-born-womyn. Corollary: had the holy Goddess, in her complete being, the origin of all forms, been the origin of computers, software would have no bugs.

          You might as well be arguing against a Young Earth Creationist or any other $vehemently_held_superstition_as_truth. The only thing that truly bothers me is that these people have the audacity to get upset about things like C+= [github.com], not unlike an Islamist would get upset about somebody drawing the Prophet. I suppose the only saving grace is that radical feminism is too hopeless of a movement to actually do anything other than bitch and attempt to cow online communities. This is in stark contrast to what the Suffragettes/Amazons had to do to get women the vote.

          It's taken a few years, but this idea seems to be entering the mainstream in a roundabout way. Now instead of the lack of womyn-born-womyn programmers being explained by some mystical superstition, we instead turn to stereotypes. Now the explanation is that there are no womyn-born-womyn programmers because us assigned males are a bunch of jargon-speaking, sexually harassing, sexually frustrated misogynerds who are terrified at the possibility that a womyn-born-womyn somewhere might learn how to program. Heaven forbid if she run through a Linux from Scratch and learn that Scratch is not a language that can be used to build information systems!

          Feh. A pox upon them.

          I haven't yet been called a racist yet.

          ¹ This being, of course, absolutely not true outside of the delusions of radical feminism and the self-imposed barriers of radical feminists wrt computers.

          • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:11PM

            by SanityCheck (5190) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:11PM (#305411)

            You are my favorite frustrated internet crusader.

            • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday February 16 2016, @11:34PM

              by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @11:34PM (#305503) Journal

              Yeah, because I've never been discriminated against IN REAL FUCKING LIFE because of my assigned gender at birth.

              Never, not once! Promise! I'm just butthurt!

              CISGENDER CISGENDER CISGENDER CISGENDER

              There. Hope you're sufficiently triggered.

            • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday February 16 2016, @11:40PM

              by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @11:40PM (#305507) Journal

              Here's another comment to mod down! Karma to burn!

              I am seriously wondering why the fuck I even reconsidered feminism.

              I am fucking sick and tired of your womyn-born-womyn hunnies constantly fucking shit up.

              I am FUCKING TIRED of your cisgendered dipshit sweethearts blaming my gender because CISGENDERED FEMALES FAIL AT FUCKING EVERYTHING. (except popping out babies. that's all they're good for)

              Have your fucking codes of conduct! HOW MANY FUCKING CISGENDERED PROGRAMMERS WILL THEY CREATE? NONE. BECAUSE CISGENDERED WOMEN FAIL AT EVERYTHING EXCEPT HAVING BABIES.

              I DID MY FUCKING BEST. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? CISGENDERED WOMEN DON'T WANT TO BE PROGRAMMERS. THEY JUST WANT TO HAVE BABIES. Nothing will change that. Ever.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @02:28PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @02:28PM (#305782)

                There are childfree females.

                The whole thing that annoys me about your posts is that you use "cisgendered" too much. Every cisgendered X is just a common or garden X. Stop giving the word credibility through use. Naming things after attributes that are lacking (e.g. horseless carriages) is *just plain dumb*.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 18 2016, @01:11AM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday February 18 2016, @01:11AM (#306063) Journal

                Uh, hi, cisgendered woman here? Don't want babies. Not the way the world is going.

                You're having a meltdown, Kurenai. Stay off the internet for a while, go to a lakeshore or beach if one is nearby, and just take in the air and water sounds. Yeah, i saw the "kurenai.tsubasa has made you her foe" message earlier. What the hell, man. I am on your side. You should try and keep me there.

                --
                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 18 2016, @01:09AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday February 18 2016, @01:09AM (#306061) Journal

            Kurenai I swear to Cthulhu you are making me WANT to pretend to be one of those TERFs just to spite you. I'm on your side, dumbass!

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday February 18 2016, @03:38AM

              by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Thursday February 18 2016, @03:38AM (#306124) Journal

              That may be the end of this fate. I don't give a shit. I've taken enough shit from cisgendered females who presume me to be a sexually frustrated rapist. I see a cisfemale counselor tomorrow. Who knows what will happen?

              At least the roommate will collect life insurance when I finally die.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 18 2016, @06:26PM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday February 18 2016, @06:26PM (#306467) Journal

                Does it help to know I don't think you're any sort of rapist? You do really worry me though; you've had bad experiences with a few nutsy women and you're extrapolating this to half the human race. That's not healthy. Let the idiots go; the TERFs are twisted, funhouse-mirror clones of the very thing they claim to hate, and if they had any self-awareness they'd change. But they don't, so don't waste your energy on them.

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday February 18 2016, @11:21PM

                  by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Thursday February 18 2016, @11:21PM (#306622) Journal

                  I'm sorry. I had a mini-mental breakdown I think. I saw a counselor today, and I think things will work out. I told her about how I had been declared a sexist trying to prevent women from learning programming, and we had a good laugh about how absurd that is on so many levels. I suppose the trick is keeping myself from proving the notion true with outbursts. It gets hard knowing I'm a convicted sexist in the minds of so many not to just go full retard, but that's still no excuse.

                  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 18 2016, @11:45PM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday February 18 2016, @11:45PM (#306634) Journal

                    Oh to hell with those idiots! You do you, and they can go screw themselves in their hugboxen.

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                    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday February 19 2016, @03:01AM

                      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday February 19 2016, @03:01AM (#306697) Journal

                      Thanks. I'll try to strive to be a better community member. Unfortunately I'm drinking tonight—it seems to be the only thing that keeps “Evil Tsubasa” in check—, but I hope to get back on the wagon this weekend.

                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday February 19 2016, @05:17AM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday February 19 2016, @05:17AM (#306727) Journal

                        You may find valerian capsules helpful. They're not very powerful, but I find they take the edge off, and as I'm straight-edge (more due to lack of funds than a desire to be teetotal) they're my only "chemical" recourse. Good music is helpful too; I suspect it can entrain brainwaves to some extent.

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                        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:31PM (#305241)

        How are you going to judge the level of oppression? Using the classic progressive stack [wikipedia.org], a queue, or perhaps even something like a native-American/person-of-color tree [wikipedia.org]?

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:59PM (#305248)

          ...a queue...

          Surely, you meant an LGBTQueue?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @06:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @06:31PM (#305276)

        Would it be OK if I paid a black person minimum wage to commit my code for me?

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:51PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:51PM (#305247)

      The world would be a better place

      Unless of course the code doesn't work...

      (suspect I'm being Poe's Law'd)

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      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:20PM

      by isostatic (365) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @09:20PM (#305415) Journal

      The idea of a "meritocracy" is false. When some white, privileged, college-educated "Computer Science Major" tries to judge me and judge my code, I feel violently nauseated.

      I don't understand all this mysogonistic feminazi hippyness.

      How on earth would anyone know if you black, white, male, female, gay, sad, fat, thin, or somewhere in between? This is the internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI agents.

      We know "The Mighty Buzzard" is a 4'3 korean transvestite, we know jmorris is a "big mamma" housewife, but why does it matter?

  • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 16 2016, @03:45PM (#305224)

    Isn't this supposed to be a tech news site? Then why do we see

    Oh... Github. Never mind

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by OrugTor on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:03PM

    by OrugTor (5147) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:03PM (#305231)

    As an elderly Englishmen I can remember the days when 'giit' was a name you called someone you didn't like.
    Example: "That was my last LSD tab, you stupid git!"

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by tangomargarine on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:48PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @04:48PM (#305246)

      "I'm an egotistical bastard, and I name all my projects after myself. First Linux, now git." -Linus Torvalds

      --
      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 2) by zeigerpuppy on Tuesday February 16 2016, @10:01PM

      by zeigerpuppy (1298) on Tuesday February 16 2016, @10:01PM (#305443)

      ... And get off my damn unicorn, I'm earning frequent flyer miles!

    • (Score: 2) by mrchew1982 on Wednesday February 17 2016, @05:18AM

      by mrchew1982 (3565) on Wednesday February 17 2016, @05:18AM (#305605)

      Kind of funny because git is short for "gitano," which was spain-spanish slang for Egyptian. The term was negatively applied to the migrants of yesteryear(who didn't come from Egypt)... Also strange to note that Egypt is also the basis for the word "gypsy" and "getting gypped."

      Makes about as much sense as calling someone a "cretin," which has it's basis in a Greek island. Language is such a fun thing to explore!

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday February 17 2016, @02:44PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday February 17 2016, @02:44PM (#305792)

        Makes about as much sense as calling someone a "cretin," which has it's basis in a Greek island. Language is such a fun thing to explore!

        Augh!

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        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @05:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 17 2016, @05:44AM (#305613)

    That would require they cared at some point...