Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Son of Bobby Kennedy has written this article for politico.eu
He explains the history of the middle east from the 1950's onwards. I was mostly ignorant of this recent history and it has really opened my eyes to the current situation in the middle east. Our relentless pursuit of oil in the region since the 1950's has led to the current crisis in Syria.
What do you fellow Soylentis think about this? Should we feel massive guilt for the actions of our governments or is the price justified in the modern world? Oil runs the world and our civilisation is utterly dependant on it. Have we been doing the right things in the middle east for the last 70 years?
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:36AM
Uncle Sam is the greedy fat kid who steals cake from everyone. He won't touch his own cake until he has already eaten everyone else's cake first. In this way he maximizes his selfish gluttony.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:52AM
We bought the oil.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:59AM
I'm gonna buy, at my price. If'n ya don' wanna sell for my price, Ima fuck yo up. Now..... How much, mutherfucka?
(Score: 5, Informative) by sjames on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:17AM
You forgot a few steps. We deposed the guy who wouldn't sell us the oil and propped up the guy who would. Then we bought the oil.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday April 30 2016, @11:22AM
guys. All of this has happened before, and will happen again.
Even if we get cold fusion, and desalinization solves the fresh water crisis, there will be something essential to life in short supply - either by nature or by man's design, not all of man - just the ones in control.
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(Score: 2) by Geotti on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:15PM
Resource scarcity is an illusion except for time and health.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday May 01 2016, @12:34AM
Resource scarcity is an illusion except for time and health.
Scarcity is not just the raw quantity of the material, but how much can you access. It doesn't matter if the Solar System is 25% helium by mass, if you can't get it into a balloon or scientific instrument.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday May 01 2016, @02:45AM
Scarcity is not an illusion when you are on the far side of the wall, cut off by the people controlling the resource.
Scarcity also will not be an illusion when the human population passes the 50 billion mark - we were at 2 billion 80 years ago, 7 billion today, that makes 25 billion by 2100, and really no reason to slow down, unless resource scarcity or forced birth control hits. Yes, demographics point to "rich" countries reducing their population growth, but, ask yourself, if UBI rolls out, how many people do you think will stop at 2 children? My theory on population capping in the "rich" countries is that we're all so damn busy that we don't have time for more kids, take away the "need to work" and what will happen?
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday May 01 2016, @05:45PM
I think grandparent means scarcity is artificial. It is. Just because we have lived in the age of consumerism and squandering of resources it does not mean it is the only possible development model. It is only the best one *for those seeking control*, because squandering and polluting means a future of infighting and health dependence from the system.
As for population control, if old people had no way to be without food shelter and basic care, they would only procreate because of love and not to have somebody looking after you. Even when work was not the slavery of today, western nation had solved population control.
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday May 01 2016, @06:00PM
I'm sorry, when was work not the slavery of western capitalist society? Yes, there is more minute to minute freedom with the "work" model, as compared to being "owned" and literally told what to do second to second, but with the "free" economy, if you don't have significant (top 5% or higher) wealth accumulated, you've usually got a year or two of "freedom" at most before you are completely dependent on the social safety net, such as it is. It all sounds "fair" on the face of it to others who have worked their whole lives, but real circumstances put far more people dependent on the social safety net than independently wealthy. The argument goes that the "unfortunate" could have made better choices, and many could have, but I still feel that there are more working poor who have made all the best possible choices for their circumstance than there are independently wealthy who have gotten that way by making good choices in life starting from a median wealth position or lower.
The problem with changing the system is the short term pain that those in power make sure will happen before meaningful change occurs - fear of that pain keeps most from opposing the status quo, even if it is severely unfair to them.
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday May 01 2016, @07:53PM
I meant, when work was not akin to slavery as it is today, namely in western europe till the '90s, when one of the parents could afford to stay home and people could be confident that next 5 years they would still be employed in the same place.
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Sunday May 01 2016, @08:31PM
Ah, well, my personal experience is in Florida, where even in the 1960s, 70s and 80s, both parents had to work (unless one was in a "top tier / top 5%" job) just to afford a 3 bedroom house in the suburbs plus two cars - which the parents required to get to their jobs. Other places in the US were easier, but Florida's economy is dominated by retirees who (in large part) are not at all generous in paying for the services they use.
It has been "downhill" since the 1970s, but even the peak of the hill saw both my parents working most of my life, and just barely affording to support me while I went through college on partial scholarship.
I have been fortunate enough to find my way into a "top 15%" career, and my wife is not forced to work outside the home, but this just puts us in a "median" suburban home. I could have as easily ended up with less, and of course I could win the lottery any day (well, since I don't play, it's one chance in millions less likely than if I did...)
My first "real job" in 1991 didn't have any explicit "employment at will" wording in the contract - but, when they ran out of money in 2003, it was pretty obvious that we were all going to need to find something else. Since that 2nd job in 2003, all employment contracts I have seen include the "employment at will" language which basically says that either employer or employee may terminate the employment relationship at any moment for any reason or no reason at all. So, that's job security in America - not quite slavery - you're free to leave, and if you've got enough money, you're not forced to find another job.
The whole idea of "keep your job or you and your family will be evicted from your home" is a particularly twisted aspect of "the American Dream," where anyone can obtain a home mortgage. I always thought that word was very transparently "a measurement of death."
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(Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Sunday May 01 2016, @12:33AM
I don't remember it that way. The Saudi royal family has been in power since dirt, or at least since 1744.
I also remember pushing my car two blocks to the gas pump in the 70s because we weren't able to "steal" the oil at any price, let alone at a good price.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Sunday May 01 2016, @03:44AM
You forgot Iran.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:40AM
Many of those in power in the Middle East remember Operation Ajax.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:35PM
That's not accurate. Oil was "mined out" of Pennslyvania, Oklahoma, and Texas before we started on the mid-East oil. Our acquisition of the mid-east oil is largely post-WWII. This doesn't make it right, but it makes your statement wrong.
Now "acquiring" oil from the middle east by corruption, propping up dictators, etc. isn't justifiable. But we *did* largely act thorough local powers rather than as an invading force. And, as someone else said, we did buy it. But at prices set by governments that we maintained in power. Even OPEC is relatively recent.
The question of "what were the alternatives" isn't usually seriously considered. If you do you find lots more coal being burned. LOTS. That wouldn't be good, and the "oil" prices would have been higher, but it would probably have been less evil. And solar and wind power might have gotten started earlier.
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 30 2016, @11:53PM
No, it really wasn't. Until the recentish price drop by OPEC, Oklahoma was raking in massive tax revenue from the oil produced within its borders. Now it's having to fire teachers because those wells are too expensive to produce from and have been simply shut off. It's not that the middle east has so much more oil than us, it's that they can produce it so cheaply.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:39AM
such a weird coincidence israel got artificially created around that time to police the region... oh wait!
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:43AM
Look, did you really want the Jewish people wandering around homeless, continuing their historical trend of catalyzing wars wherever they went? Easier to give them Jerusalem and concentrate their troublesome influence in one place, see.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:48AM
Jews are the True Master Race, because Hebrew, and the Torah, and Jews invented God. All the inferior Master Races are posers who are envious of the Elite Jewish Civilization.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:49AM
hmm, fast response, ignored the historical background, went straight for the poor "homeless" well done shadowy gobernment agent
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:07AM
Highly literate poor homeless former slaves who wrote a b(ible)log about their Kampf. Haven't you read Exodus?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by devlux on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:18AM
I find it telling that these anti-semitic posts are always posted AC.
If you really feel that way, man up and own your posts please.
I don't care who you are, but I'd like the privilege of knowing where this level of lunacy is coming from.
There are only 2 reasons to post like that. Either you don't actually own your views in which case, you are nothing more than a troll trying to elicit a reaction; Or you really do believe it, but are too scared you'll be rejected by the group for your beliefs in which case, well I guess the "Coward" title is fitting.
Let me tell you about me. My family came to what would become the USA about 20 years or so ahead of the Mayflower. We were in the revolutionary war and fought in every war since that time. During that time, many other ethnicities came to the USA and blended into my family line, until Christian, Jew, Arab whatever, no longer held any meaning whatsoever.
Yet the maternal line of my family was front and center to the horror of WW2. Not as Jews, but as Nazi.
I am here because one day a Nazi soldier was shot by Allied forces. A Jew who was this soldier's prisoner ripped his own shirt off and quickly made a tourniquet, thereby sparing my mother's father from bleeding to death. He did this without a second thought and despite the freezing cold.
My grandfather surrendered, was sent to hospital and stayed as an allied POW until the end of WW2 where he eventually married an American nurse.
Conspiracy theories are nothing more than lies.
There is no "ethnic group" on the face of that planet that has some master plan, or controls the banks or the media or the government.
These lies are told as a way of re-enforcing personal biases. A way to revert to "us vs them" mentalities which serve no valid purpose anymore. It is a way to make you feel like you are a victim. Like the failings in your life are somehow not your own fault.
When you do this, you deny yourself and your true nature. You lock yourself in chains in a darkened room with no windows, hoping that someone else will come free you. But here's the secret. Only you have the power to unlock your chains. No one else can do this for you and no one else is willing to sit beside you in their own chains just because you are too ignorant to look into the mirror and see that the jailer who keeps you bound, is the face staring back at you in the mirror.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:38AM
A Jew who was this soldier's prisoner ripped his own shirt off and quickly made a tourniquet
Nice story. Which makes this "prisoner" a "companion" who saved his companion's life ...in order to save his own. Stop calling the Jews poor victims. A Jew is not allowed to save a non-Jewish life. It says clearly in their religion.
These lies are told as a way of re-enforcing personal biases [...] Like the failings in your life are somehow not your own fault
Completely irrelevant is the fact that the Jews have been expelled 109 times in the past. Also completely irrelevant is the fact that the Federal Reserve is a Jewish bank run by Jews. Read some history first. People smarter than you have written some pretty eye-opening texts about these "chosen people" and their ways.
You are completely brainwashed into thinking the Jews are like the rest of us. Oh those poor harmless little Jews.
Let me tell you this unbiased truth: There is no such thing as a harmless little Jew.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by devlux on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:18AM
It's important enough for you to comment / respond, but not enough to create an account and yet you come here and post the same tired tripe over and over again?
Excuse me if I have a hard time believing you. You only discredit yourself and your message when you post that way.
Are you really that lonely, that sad, that scared?
Ad hominem attacks don't bother me. You don't know me because if you knew me, then you would know that your opinion of me holds no weight or meaning to me.
However you're making it clear that you want "someone's" approval, just so you know you're not completely alone sitting there in a fit of nerd rage in your mother's basement.
The fact that you cannot cite a single paper supporting your claims, not even the supposed scriptural reference, implies that you are insincere and just trying to make people angry, because you are angry, or scared, or possibly bored.
No one wants to be around you and wallow with you in your own personal victimization fantasy. I choose to be here and make an account, because the people on this site take great efforts to have real intellectual discourse. It's not an echo chamber here and that's rare. However to have discourse you need to have something relevant and either supported by fact or called out as personal opinion. I'm sorry but what you say is in no way intellectual, enlightening or engaging.
A man who believes what he is saying will cite true facts that are verifiable or just admit that they have unsubstantiated beliefs motivated by personal biases and fear.
Put aside the fear, go educate yourself and if you have something intelligent to say then please by all means come back here and say it, but make the effort. You have a message to spread, it won't spread here if you come off sounding like a raving lunatic because, "reason is the death of fear".
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:50AM
The fact that you cannot cite a single paper supporting your claims, not even the supposed scriptural reference, implies that you are insincere and just trying to make people angry, because you are angry, or scared, or possibly bored.
Not them but I've got some citations.
Watch this, it explains how you're being brainwashed: Series about the NWO [youtube.com] I didn't believe it either, but it's facts actually check out.
How this guy who fact checked about 1/3rd of the WWII Holocaust and found it didn't happen. [youtube.com] You can fact check the rest of it yourself...
Why are you begging for information when Google exists? Look, I know you've got beliefs you don't want challenged, and think "conspiracies" don't exist (hint: Watergate was real), but your worldview is poorly researched post war propaganda. Ever noticed how the good guys always win every war? American revolutionary War, good guys won! Civil War, good guys won! (it was over economics not slavery), WWI good guys won, WWII good guys won... Do you moronically think that good always triumphs over evil? Hint: "Victors write the History", see? They make the enemies out to be the bad guys. When really, all wars are bankers wars. [youtube.com] And these bankers are overwhelmingly of The Tribe. [youtube.com] This was true of WWII too. [youtube.com] Even Patton said, "We fought the wrong enemy". Who would know more about it than a General that fought in the war?
Hey, I had a grandfather in the war too. He was starved to death along with millions of other Germans in a death camp ran by Allied forces while his captors burned the excess rations. They were reclassified as Enemy Combatants instead of Prisoners of War (even though they were POWs) in order to evade the Geneva convention.
You could just search "WWII propaganda photos" and start forming your own opinion from your own research rather than buying into the "common narrative" and flawlessly performing the fallacy of Argumentum ad populum, but nope you're too thick headed and dumb to do a smart thing like that.
(Score: 3, Informative) by devlux on Saturday April 30 2016, @03:18PM
Well thank you for being less trolling than the original Troll.
Not sure you can see what they were claiming, but the reason I choose to respond the way I did is that he's making claims unsupported by facts.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Now a couple of things.
I don't believe that any "good guy" has ever won a war, neither has any "bad guy".
This is for 2 reasons.
#1 There are no good guys. There are just "people" who have done "things" some of them perceived as "good" and some perceived as "bad". However it's entirely in the eye of the beholder. Often there are things considered good at the time are viewed through the eyes of history as bad and things considered horrible at the time are perceived as good. In otherwords, there is no universal morality. Just cultural norms. Those who follow the norms are good and those who don't are bad. Very simple.
#2 The only winner in a war is the man selling the bullets. That one is self obvious. War, violence, strife and discord benefit no one. You cannot ever "win" a war, all you can do is end it.
As for your videos, you need to check the sources and consider the messages. On a 15 minute video he spends the first 2 minutes replaying a clip from a TV show which is fictional but entertaining. The man sounds a lot like Donald Trump, maybe he can make america great again too.
Next your video author puts up some very ominous black and white text "Within the City of London there is one mile square are called "The City"
Ok so this is factually accurate. London started out as a roman fort and was 1 square mile when originally incorporated. The rest of what we call London are districts and burroughs that grew up around it. Anyone can live there. New York is the same way. New York "city" proper is smaller but was founded about 1,000 years later.
The population of the city of London is 7,375 which makes it about average density for 1sq mile. It's essentially the Wall Street of the UK.
Now for the next part...
"This is the headquarters of the Rothschilds a Jewish family dynasty, and their Jewish Cabal, a group that owns the money supply through the Central Banks of almost every nation on earth."
First problem with this. Ask yourself, is there any language here that is intended to be inflammatory and prey on your pre-existing prejudices?
The easiest way is to check when you are unsure is to play "swap ethnic sterotypes" and see if the message stays the same.
"This is the headquarters of the Corleones an Italian family dynasty, and their Italian Mafia, a group that owns the drug supply through the smuggling routes of almost every nation on earth."
Check! But let's try now without any ethnic stereotypes at all and see if the message is anywhere near as ominous.
"This is the headquarters of the Rothschilds, a family dynasty that owns the money supply through the Central Banks of almost every nation on earth."
Alright, so now we've gotten past the ethnic stereotype. Let's just fact check a couple of items before we proceed.
Fact check time. Who are the Rothschilds and are they Jewish?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family#Jewish_identity_and_positions_on_Zionism [wikipedia.org]
It appears that in the 19th century they were a wealthy and powerful family. The family got it's start by being bankers.
Originally the family is Jewish yes, currently though it looks like a mixed bag.
David Renee appears to be actively Jewish and a prominent member of the family...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ren%C3%A9_de_Rothschild [wikipedia.org]
But I refer you back to the wikipedia link and ask you to notice that many of the most powerful members of the family opposed the Zionism efforts, or even helping out other Jews during WW2.
"Lord Victor Rothschild was against granting asylum or to help Jewish refugees during the Holocaust."
Now you can say something like "Well those Jews, dang them all to heck, they wouldn't help eachother etc.." But the minute you say that your entire "Jewish" conspiracy begins to fail. At that point, what you really mean is there is/was a conspiracy and some, perhaps all of the people involved were Jewish.
Now you need to ask "was there a Jewish conspiracy"?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rothschild_family [rationalwiki.org]
Kinda doubtful...
Ok so Central Banking was this an invention of Jews, or even the Rothschilds?
Survey says No! No it wasn't. In the USA, The Federal Reserve was created by noted anti-semite JP Morgan and his equally Jew hating buddy John J Rockafeller.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/federal-reserve.asp [investopedia.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._P._Morgan [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller [wikipedia.org]
FYI your video is 3 minutes in which is 1/5th of the way and it still hasn't provided a single source let alone a reliable one.
I've now completely destroyed the basis for this mans argument unless you're planning to argue that the US Federal Reserve system is currently under Jewish control.
So who controls the Federal Reserve right now?
Janet Yellen was born Jewish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Yellen [wikipedia.org] but there is no link to her and the Rothschilds, also we already established that being Jewish does not prima facie make you part of a Cabal.
The other members of the board of governors...
Stanley Fisher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Fischer [wikipedia.org] not only a Jew but surprisingly a dual Israeli and US Citizen. Sounds scary, but wait there's more...
"American President Barack Obama nominated Fischer as vice chair of the Federal Reserve System, the United States' central bank, in January 2014.In nominating Fischer for the position, Obama stated he brought "decades of leadership and expertise from various roles, including serving at the International Monetary Fund and the Bank of Israel"
Imagine that! Barrack Hussein Obama who is later called out as being part of this NWO "Jewish conspiracy" despite most conspiracy theorists belief that he is a muslim, appointed this man because he ran the IMF. Wow a central banker who might have experience in directing a central bank.
There appears to be no Rothschild link here though, so I dunno.
Ok so let's see who the other fellow conspirators are...
This fella appears to be Catholic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Tarullo [wikipedia.org]
This guy appears to be Mormon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_H._Powell [wikipedia.org]
This gal appears to be Protestant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lael_Brainard [wikipedia.org]
So we have 2 Jews a Catholic, a Mormon and a Protestant in charge at the Federal reserve. Maybe it's a conspiracy, but honestly, that does not sound like a Jewish conspiracy.
But who actually OWNs the federal reserve. Whom do they serve?
Wikipedia is failing to mention anything about Rothschilds or Jews.
The best I can get is this...
"There are 12 Federal Reserve Banks and they are located in Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Richmond, Atlanta, Chicago, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Kansas City, Dallas, and San Francisco. Each reserve Bank is responsible for member banks located in its district. The size of each district was set based upon the population distribution of the United States when the Federal Reserve Act was passed. Each regional Bank has a president, who is the chief executive officer of their Bank. Each regional Reserve Bank's president is nominated by their Bank's board of directors, but the nomination is contingent upon approval by the Board of Governors. Presidents serve five-year terms and may be reappointed."
Ok so there are 12 banks that "own" the federal reserve.
What are these 12 banks?
A member bank is a private institution and owns stock in its regional Federal Reserve Bank. All nationally chartered banks hold stock in one of the Federal Reserve Banks. State chartered banks may choose to be members (and hold stock in their regional Federal Reserve bank), upon meeting certain standards.
Alright so all banks everywhere are wholly owned by the Rothschilds??? Is that the assertion this guy is making?
I know that can't be true because my 401k has stock in JP Morgan Chase & Wells Fargo and actually come to think of it I have stock in just about every bank with branches in States I've lived in.
I'm not related to the Rothschilds in fact closest my family has ever come to them is decendency through the Hapsburgs. You should check your retirement plan, make sure to divest yourself of ANY banking interests just to be certain. We can't let those dirty people have at our money. Close your bank accounts, convert all of your dollars immediately to gold and silver, it's the only way to be sure you'll still be able to buy apple pie at the super market when this whole mess collapses and the zombies attack. Not sure what you'll do in the meantime though, because I have yet to find a grocery store that will take either gold or silver and eating metal is hard on the teeth.
But isn't that the basis of his claim? "owns the money supply through the Central Banks of almost every nation on earth."
Well the central bank of the USA is actually owned by Wall Street. Do the Rothschilds own Wall Street?
Investopedia says that they're publicly held which means likely I own them too.
http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0311/who-owns-the-stock-exchanges.aspx [investopedia.com]
So the very first 2 minutes of your very first source are patently false. An unsubstantiated lie to manipulate you into believing what comes next, confirming your own personal biases. Biases which I have just demonstrated to be factually incorrect.
2:35 a quote by Woodrow Wilson which he did in fact write. And a great description of the current state of affairs wherein the bulk of wealth is concentrated in a few corporate interests and these interests are very much subject to regulatory capture. However you'll note the distinct lack of Jews in the quote. In fact he was complaining about capitalism in general.
Next is 2:50 a quote from a film by Aaron Russo a man best known for his success as a film maker, i.e. entertainment industry pundit and also a Jew. But listen carefully to what he has to say. "Not just the Federal Reserve system, but the private banks in Germany, England, Italy, all over the world, they all worked together. They're all central banks."
Ok first off, no they really don't work together except ostensibly through the IMF. They are at cross purposes most of the time.
Secondly they can't be both private and central. That would be a contradiction in terms. Also again factually incorrect.
That would be the same as having a publicly traded corporation that is privately held. You can't really have it both ways. Also this video is old and predates the ECB.
"And they're all part of the communist manifesto".
Umm the what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto [wikipedia.org]
That thing predates the central banking system by nearly 75 years.
Oh ok. He means they agree to it in principle. So now we're saying that anything associated with communism is bad. Therefore anything that opposes communism should be good? Jews opposed communism, but they took the communist manifesto to heart for some reason and somehow managed to seize control of all central banks worldwide, in secret while at the same time paying me dividends in my 401k for the shares I own? Wow that's it, right?
"We have a central bank that plans everything for us." Umm wrong. Central planning is about resource distribution, not money. Where is rice and wheat grown, how to distribute it fairly and equally, etc. In capitalism, "capital" is the resource. Resources move from where they are inefficiently used to where they are efficiently used. This means that rich people tend to get richer because efficiency is a function of economies of scale, not fairness to your fellow man.
If you want fair, as in everyone gets their fair share in everything, you are a communist, you just haven't learned the right word for it.
3:30s of my life has been wasted on watching this video, not a single valid or supported point was made except at the first minute or so and that was a work of fiction which BTW had no support. But I'll continue here...
"Graduated income tax is another plan of the communists", are you serious? OMG where?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf [marxists.org] (pages 26 & 27)
"Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the
rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures,
therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the
movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are
unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.
These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable. " (a list of several items follow progressive income tax is one of them).
So you're telling me that these people are like super elite, they own all the money, all the methods of production and all the resources and now they want to implement a plan to remove all class distinctions and turn the means of production over to the state. The state will perform central planning tasks, eliminate class disparity and ensure everyone gathers around the campfire to sing Kumbaya each night? WTH? Doesn't that seem just a bit umm I dunno, internally inconsistent maybe?
Wouldn't a MUCH, MUCH better plan be to implement capitalism globally? This way the rich continue to increase their wealth relative to the poor?
I'm sorry, but I fail to see much of an impetus for them to do this and the only support thus far is "some guy said so, but he didn't bother with citations cuz it's like common knowledge yo.".
Ahh and here is the point of the video FINALLY!
"The ultimate goal that these people have is to create a one world government."
So who are "these people". A picture of Barak Obama and his cabinet are shown. Sorry but Barak Obama's ancestors were snuggling up to their goats and burning dung to keep warm at night, back when this document was published.
"Now they've taken over our government and Republicans and Democrats there's no difference anymore". Ok I'll bite, I believe this because it confirms my own personal biases and observations. It's still not cited anywhere and I was able to solve the problem for me personally by selecting a different country and moving to it.
"They control both parties..." Who in the hell is they? Russo, the speaker, was Jewish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Russo [wikipedia.org] so I don't think he meant the Jews in general. Perhaps he did but then wouldn't that make him part of this conspiracy? And if so why are we listening to him. Is he some sort of whistle blower?
So this whole thing is just a special brand of crazy.
It gets better. 4:56 there is the claim that stripping power from the Jews allowed Adolph Hitler's Germany to become an economic powerhouse.
Sure confiscate the assets of 10% of the population and give it to the state and this will tend to happen for awhile. Except that's socialism and that's part of the Jewish conspiracy. So the super elite Jews conspired against themselves to get themselves almost annihilated in order to establish a government that would not recognize the class differences or the sovereign rights of the individual? They did this despite the fact that they were already in power a priori, in order to establish and maintain control. Umm huh?
How are these beliefs, internally inconsistent and completely in contradiction to, not only established fact, but also one another, not ringing your skull like a bell?
Of course the economy flourished under National Socialism. Germany broke every agreement it made post World War 1 and built an army of epic proportions. Suddenly everyone who had no job was either working or being gassed alive. This investment in their war machine paid off because it gave jobs and hope to people who lived it. This was true until it was found to be economically unstustainable and the only way to fix the problem was to grow the national borders.
I know, my Grandfather was there, he served in that military and he told me all about it. Nationalism will do that and the easiest way to spur nationalism is turn up the hate. Just ask Donald Trump.
Find a scapegoat real or not, blame your problems on them and then you feel better and can get to the business of fixing what is wrong in your world. But that doesn't mean it's right. It also means you aren't being honest with yourself or others.
But this guy is seriously upholding Nazism and Hilter as examples of all the good that can come from NATIONAL SOCIALISM; While maintaining the Jews are in a conspiracy to bring the same thing to the rest of the world.
We have a word for this, it's called Schizophrenia. There are effective treatments. I urge you to seek them out.
And this is a forum posting on Soylent news not my own personal blog, so I'm going to assume that you put your best foot forward and leave it at that.
Next time please don't make me wade through the sewers to try and uncover your point. Youtube videos are not credible evidence and I have yet to see a single shred of evidence that any group has been able to maintain a conspiracy of any kind beyond 1 or 2 people for about 4 or 5 years. People feel guilty, they talk, word spreads.
Conspiracies require secrets, the only way 2 people can keep a secret is if one of them is dead. A single person is not a conspiracy. Ergo there are no conspiracies you are aware of that effect you, so there is no need to invent them, even if other people on the internet agree with you.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:17PM
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
But the extraordinary holocaust claim requires no evidence. Is that correct?
There are no good guys. There are just "people" who have done "things" some of them perceived as "good" and some perceived as "bad".
So, starving a population for "revenge" is "just another thing"? How nice of you to white-wash your criminal history and all the crimes your forefathers committed. Remember this: Nothing is ever forgotten!
And then you go on to defend Rothschilds:
The Rothschilds have a history which is documented. The Rothschilds control most of the world's central banks. They own the Federal Reserve bank which has the right to print money. They print this money and lend it to the government at interest. Doesn't that bother you? Its your hard work, your labour that is being diluted and given to these bankers. It is one reason why you do not make enough any more. No matter how hard you work, your quality of life is dropping. Your children's lives will be much harder. Its already happening. Grown-up children are living with their parents because they can't afford the rent. The previously enough salary is not enough any more. Its going into the pockets of the bankers. They are the Jews.
Do something now before its too late.
And the things you refer to as conspiracies are not conspiracies. They are facts and they exist right now. You are the one who is brainwashed into "liking" and "defending" Jews. Shame on you.
And you never mention what the "conspiracy theorists" have to gain from these "conspiracy theories". All you do is call them nuts. They work hard to bring you the truth and all you do is shove it aside. Are you a propagandist for the government? Ask yourself what do I have to gain from writing this comment? Do I have a hidden agenda? If yes, then what is it? From my point of view, you are already lost. But others who aren't like you can probably be saved. Don't stop them from searching for the truth. Truth fears no investigation, right?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2016, @01:36AM
Lots of Jews in banking in Christian nations, historically, because they were allowed by their religion to charge interest to non-Jews. I've also heard that there were often laws blocking them from some other professions or land ownership, but I haven't done a check of old European legal codes. Though Christians did eventually find a loop-hole to that whole usury thing.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:34PM
So, you pretend not to know of any of the evidence and demand citations, then bust out with knowledge of the citations.
Are you sure you're not a shill for JIDF (Jewish Internet Defense Force) [thejidf.org]
Telling indeed that you completely dismiss a video for using a clip from TV, which is deconstructing the masonic messaging in media. You just used a shill deflection technique. Attacking the tone not the substance.
You're using techniques this whole discussion straight out of Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies, [cryptome.org] specifically these: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist) [whale.to]
You're a disinformationalist. Go back to the Anti-Defamation League, you closeminded fuck.
Heads up guys, we've got entrenched shills here, not as many as on the green site, but that's where they came from.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2016, @09:44AM
> it's facts actually check out.
Bollocks. There are clear and obvious lies presented as facts. Too many to recount. The most obvious and easily verified is that the communists never used the eye/pyramid motif as an emblem.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:41AM
I take a third option. Your little newsy social site isn't important enough to bother creating an account. Have a egotistical day, big man. Read yourself a bedtime story of how your granddad survived to squirt his potent manly load into your grandmother's cunt just so your mother could give birth to your ass and you could live long enough to post gloriously aggrandized war stories on the interwebs.
(Score: 5, Touché) by http on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:01AM
But it's apparently important enough for you to post repeatedly and on topic? The evidence is that you're an idiot, presenting drivel.
I browse at -1 when I have mod points. It's unsettling.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:36PM
Every Jew I've met is an asshole.
(Score: 1) by zugedneb on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:41PM
the jews survive by gaming the system in various countries.
those particular countries survive by the art of war, they stand and fall with their leaders and military.
that is how the fight for resources are carried out.
at certain times and certain situations the government of those countries turn on other non-native dominant actors.
in many situations these actors are the jews.
old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
(Score: 4, Interesting) by devlux on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:56PM
Well at least you owned your comment there, I'm tempted to upmod you because you're the first person I've ever seen post these sorts of things while not hiding behind an AC mask. So kudos to you for having the courage to come forth with that, good on you for owning your opinion whether I disagree with that opinion or not. By doing so you disproved my initial premise; People will only post these sorts of things anonymously. Either as a troll or as a way of trying to say a thing without "owning" it.
Nevertheless you failed to cite anything at all, let alone anything substantive.
This means what you are calling fact is nothing more than opinion and there is a fundamental difference between a fact and an opinion. A fact exists only when it can be substantiated with strong evidence. Otherwise it is nothing more than an opinion, regardless of how many like minded people share that opinion.
So here is my opinion.
Ascribing any behavior to an entire group is narrow minded.
It's choosing to be ignorant of the truth, playing a "blame game" that does nothing for anyone.
I'm not going to go on a tirade here and post examples of Jews that have done good things, just like I wouldn't do it for blacks, whites, mormons, muslims. It's pointless. For every example I could point to of a "good one" in any group, I'm certain you can find an example of a "bad one" in that same group.
The only universal truth that I have been able to uncover is that there are no universal truths.
No bad people, no good people. Because there is no good or bad.
Everything we call good and bad is just subjective opinion.
Personal judgement on the value of actions by individuals, which is then used to pass judgement over the group as a whole.
Yet despite the fact that it may have repercussions that echo for eternity, once an action has been done, it is a thing of the past.
Even a person who has done nothing but horrors from the day they were born can flip in an instant and do good things.
A person can also spend their whole lives doing good and still do bad things in the blink of an eye.
Priest is almost a synonym for pedophile in the public consciousness nowdays yet it doesn't mean they are.
It doesn't even mean a significant portion of them are. It just means people choose ignorance willingly because they are herdwired to do so.
It's ok to do this, we're free to choose our own path for our own reasons. But this doesn't mean that this ignorance is a reflection of true facts.
It just means you are letting someone else do your thinking for you.
Now I do agree with you on the final statement. In many situations the actors are Jews. In many situations they are Christian, in many situations they are Muslim, Hindu etc. But yes in many situations there are Jews involved the mischief making as well.
So the real take away, is that people who clamor the loudest about adhering to a faith are the least likely to truly believe in it's core tenets. Choosing instead to use religion as a tool. Perhaps calling out one or two obscure points in scripture that they believe supports their opinion while ignoring some key facts.
All scriptures are fictional mythologies created by man for control of man in the name of a God. Each of them is as equally as fictitious as any other.
Almost humorously there probably is a God, who despite all of the people pretending to speak in his/her/their name managed to insert a single tenet into every religion everywhere at all times and all places upon the face of the earth. I say that this is the hand of God, because the core tenet of every religion is the same. If it's not God who did that, then frankly I have no other explanation for it, but to my mind it is miraculous. That key tenet is simply "Love each other".
As soon as you stop doing that, you are no longer obeying "God" whatever your religion may be, and judging a person based on their ethnic group is hardly showing "love".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @09:37PM
In many situations they are Christian, in many situations they are Muslim, Hindu etc
Stop dragging everyone into the same pile.
Where do you see Christians (as a group) committing heinous acts on nations?
Where do you see Muslims (as a group) committing heinous acts on nations?
...
and so on.
Those that do commit heinous acts are acting on their own behalf, and they are criminals. Plain and simple.
But Jews commit crimes systematically, as a group. They support each other when one of them gets caught red-handed committing a crime.
judging a person based on their ethnic group is hardly showing "love".
But when a race (ethnic group/whatever) develops a reputation over centuries of being parasites, swindlers, masters of the art of lie, you need to be careful who you fall in love with.
Most of your comment is designed to take attention away from the discussion.
(Score: 1) by zugedneb on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:00PM
you seem to take things seriously, and I am not in mood for trolling, so here is a thought: you seem to fall for the same fallacy that "social scientist" type of people do: they talk about there being more than one truth and things are not black and white, and yet, of all the "professions" that demand thinking, they are the least least and last to deliver.
in the end, it is about working with statistics and the sciences that deal with statistics.
understanding the phenomena of "there being something gray" is not easy, and certainly not a topic for internet forums...
it is the topic of books with 500+ pages.
i simply talk about averages and trajectories and dominant patterns arising from actions of one or many... and also about those who live in the shadow, or wake or whatever, of the above mentioned phenomena.
at the heights of the thinking mind, there is no need for citation; it is enough that you have understood what i have said.
if you understand what i have said, than the your model of how the world works admits my statements as the "a" truth, whether you like it or not.
if you are a jew, you do not have to shoulder all the "sins" of the "jews"...
but understand, that on some places of the world, there are plebs who survive, because they can spawn cold, calculating, and brutal "nazis".
in the same way that the "jews", on a grand average, benefit from the wit and organisational skills of a subset of them, there are others that survive on the actions of the nazis.
the temporal culture of scaring people by calling them nazis, and the shitty PR war against "antisemitic" people will not last long.
the people of europe survive by the existence of certain types of structures, and these structures will come again.
in other words Hitler will be back in some form, and the jews of europe will be deprived of their banks, their art and their richness, and will be purged again.
i am not saying that the plebs that live in the shadow (or wake) of such a power are honorable and desirable...
neither do i say that with my level of knowledge i will happily participate in genocide for the advantage of these plebs...
i am just saying that history will repeat itself, and i start to see why...
old saying: "a troll is a window into the soul of humanity" + also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2016, @09:16AM
Let's examine the possibilities...
So the Jewish prisoner just wanted to see your granddad suffer longer, and be humiliated and punished? A quick death would not have fed that lust for revenge.
Nothing in your story contradicts the above line. I'm not saying it's true, but we don't have the information to judge.
-- FatPhil (A/C only because too lazy to recover password)
(Score: 2) by Teckla on Sunday May 01 2016, @02:04PM
I, like you, find the anti-Jewish rhetoric to be tripe. That being said...
In several posts, you seem to be pushing the "stop being anonymous" angle pretty hard.
I think that's a mistake; a deep, terrible mistake.
Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. It's why, for example, voting is anonymous.
Imagine, if you will, that we lived in a country where anonymous speech was outlawed. Or, at the very least, so deeply frowned upon by the majority, that anyone who spoke anonymously was immediately ignored.
That doesn't lead anywhere good. Anonymous speech is fundamentally important in a free country and democracy.
What if our government was an evil theocratic dictatorship? If people spoke up non-anonymously, they'd be killed. If they spoke up anonymously, they'd be ignored.
I think the whole "man up and stop being anonymous" thing you're pushing so hard is really a tragically bad idea. I suggest you think about what I've said and consider addressing the content of the AC posts that bother you, rather than the fact that the posts themselves are anonymous.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 30 2016, @11:55PM
Artificially created? Israel had been a thing for thousands of years, brief intermissions aside. Palestine was never a thing.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2016, @09:46AM
A PLSTN was documented in Egyptian records before there was ever any mention of an "Israel" in any records.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:49AM
The answer is "fucking NO, get out of that sandy shithole and let the barbarians kill themselves." Maybe 50 years ago I could understand, possibly, doing this for energy reasons. Now? Absolutely not. We need a second Manhattan Project, this time for power rather than warfare. The sooner we can get the hell out of that dysfunctional basket case of a region the better. And the only reason we don't is it's making a few people very very rich.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:04AM
And the only reason we don't is it's making a few people very very rich.
The oil industry is also employing many thousands of people from geologists, scientists, engineers, refining plant workers, truck drivers, pipeline workers, and so on.
While I would love to have less dependence on oil, the financial reality is we can't pull the rug out from all these people. What would you propose?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:12AM
Robots, basic income, blackjack, and hookers.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:23AM
In fact, forget about the basic income, blackjack, and hookers.
Account abandoned.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 30 2016, @09:34AM
Without an income, you (the Bot) will produce nothing you can sell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Geotti on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:23PM
Why would you need to sell something, if everything is produced in abundance (and to individual spec, with mass-customization) and everyone can do whatever they feel like?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:56PM
Tell it to the banksters [globalresearch.ca].
Maybe a life insurance before won't hurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1) by tftp on Sunday May 01 2016, @01:49AM
Why would you need to sell something, if everything is produced in abundance
You will need to sell something when you want to buy something from another human.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by c0lo on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:03AM
If your single purpose is to keep them employed at any price (if you include the price of weapons, you'll see that oil is quite expensive), how about a trans-american Atlantic-Pacific canal? Through the Rookies. In diagonal, from Florida to Seattle. Dug with teaspoons.
Can you imagine the amount of work will this create, from ore extraction to steel and forming the teaspoons to the actual digging?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:17AM
So, just like the road building, only with far smaller shovels?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:28AM
Heh... yeah!
Otherwise... Utopia, mate. Nation Building (one white elephant at a time); more recently Education Nation... if you get my drift.
----
(For those outside Australia... Dreamland in the UK, Canada, and US [wikipedia.org])
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:33AM
If your single purpose is to keep them employed at any price
Sounds like you are willing to make them unemployed at any price. Don't forget the knock-on effects of all those jobs disappearing.
Digging a cross-country canal and sinking the country into a depression are both non-starters.
Clearly this is a non-trivial problem. I'm not an oil lover or a tree hugger but just someone who suggests we need to think this through rationally and realistically.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:01AM
Unemployed at any price? I only think it's justifiable if getting rid of those jobs would do more good in the long run. For instance, if robots could do the job more efficiently, or if the jobs don't serve any useful purpose any longer. So no, not "at any price".
(Score: 2) by legont on Sunday May 01 2016, @03:41AM
The project [wikipedia.org] is actually "shovel ready".
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 01 2016, @08:15AM
Cool. Then only those teaspoons would be needed.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by sjames on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:19AM
What about the buggy whip makers?
In this case, I'd say the basic income would give them time to find decent work that we would still need to do.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Saturday April 30 2016, @01:27PM
And renewable energy projects would not need the same skill sets? And second, you think war and death are acceptable prices to pay for keeping those people employed?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:22PM
you think war and death are acceptable prices to pay for keeping those people employed?
That does seem to be the official policy of the USA government.
(Score: 3, Informative) by r1348 on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:49AM
Staying out of it is what most of the world is asking you to do...
(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Saturday April 30 2016, @12:18PM
ⓋⒶ☮✝🕊 Secession is the right of all sentient beings
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Whoever on Saturday April 30 2016, @05:52AM
The CIA is hopelessly incompetent and has been for decades, and as this article shows, has often worked against US policy. I wonder if the USA would be better off if it simply did not exist.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @06:56AM
Damn it, Chief. Get Smart wasn't supposed to be a documentary.
(Score: 3, Informative) by sjames on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:22AM
Unlike the CIA, Max would often bumble into success.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by devlux on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:01AM
Seriously this? "Should we feel massive guilt for the actions of our governments or is the price justified in the modern world?"
Umm no. Why should anyone feel guilty about the actions of government? Either now, in the past or the future?
If your government is doing stuff and you feel guilty, get your ass out there and run for office. Then try not to become corrupted by monied interests.
We live in a fascist society. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism [wikipedia.org]
The USA quit being anything else a long time ago. You might think there is a 2 party system, but when it comes time for your congresscritters to vote, they vote the way they were bought. They do represent their constituents it's just that you are not and never were their constituents.
Government sets terms for business and business sets terms for government. It's quid pro quo and for all the people who whine about it, but can't be arsed to get up and go vote let alone run for office, it seems to be working as designed.
The American imperial war machine is the tool businesses use to take down threats to their interests. It's been that way for over 100 years now and for whatever reason it is working. The US Dollar is the world's reserve currency, the entire world basically gave up their economic sovereignty in order to benefit from the efforts of the USA to spread it's particular brand of "freedom" around the world. Unfortunately the only freedom the USA maintains anymore is freedom for the monied elite to do as they will without consequences.
Your only hope is to become one of the elite, or to change the definition of money to something more egalitarian. Problem is the Kardashians are up next and the previews show Kim in a new sweater. So maybe we should just wait awhile longer. Game of Thrones is on tomorrow night, how about we just chill here with a beer and binge watch the last 5 seasons on netflix?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @07:50PM
Why should anyone feel guilty about the actions of government? Either now, in the past or the future?
You are responsible for the actions of your government. Your government is committing crimes with your full support. You will have to answer for them. Either you or your children.
We live in a fascist society [...] Government sets terms for business and business sets terms for government.
But in a Fascist society the government sets the terms for business in order to benefit the people. A Fascist government takes full responsibility for all of its actions, which your government does not (and neither do you). What a funny world! No one is responsible any more! (Sounds like some of the places I worked at in the past). Yours is a type of government that is run by a certain race ... for their own purposes. You might want to pay attention to some of the conspiracy theories surrounding the Jewish/Khazarian race next time.
(Score: 3, Funny) by http on Saturday April 30 2016, @08:07AM
The CIA goon that RFK is calling "Kim" Roosevelt is actually Kermit Roosevelt Jr. [wikipedia.org] - that his job was literally installing puppet governments is... what is the opposite of irony?
I browse at -1 when I have mod points. It's unsettling.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 30 2016, @09:26AM
Ironic - happening in a way contrary to what is expected, usually provoking wry amusement.
Antonym - drab reality, boring and predictable to tears - mmm... mundane? unremarkable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @09:43AM
I, too, noticed Kermit's trans status. Perhaps next he will start dating a pig?
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:36AM
My wife says that the opposite of irony is wrinkly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @10:58AM
what is the opposite of irony?
Youronry. [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @01:30PM
It's not easy being green.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by mendax on Saturday April 30 2016, @09:52AM
It makes perfect sense that the Arabs do not want us in Syria or anywhere else in that region. How would it seem to an American during the American Civil War for the British or the French to intervene in a war that had a direct effect on the stability of their economies and their commerce? It got very close to happening. [wikipedia.org]
It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @12:11PM
Have we been doing the right things in the middle east for the last 70 years?
No. We should have nuked all of these peoples. The saudis. The syrians. The iraqis. The iranians. The israelites.
These people and their dark-ages religions have been nothing but trouble for the developed, civilized world. The africans have been allowed to live because they keep their violence to themselves. The middle east, however, always projects its internal strife across the globe. For that, they must be destroyed.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @03:03PM
Jewish propagandist troll alert!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @01:57PM
You can go back another 50 years with Adam Curtis' Bitter Lake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_%28film%29 [wikipedia.org]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4393514/ [imdb.com]
tl;dw: nobody in power really knows what they're doing (ever).
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 30 2016, @03:10PM
Wow, reading that made the hair on the back of my non-american neck stand on end.
could A WARNING (to use tor) please be given next time i generate non-american-citizen
traffic to a scary honest article ... please?
example:
*WARNING* clicking on link from a non-u.s IP might generate hits in foreign intelligence databases! Recommended to access data via tor! (or such ...)
p.s. what's the *.onion of "http://www.politico.eu"?