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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the this-might-trigger-me dept.

Business Insider is reporting that Apple is changing its implementation of the "pistol" emoji (🔫 \U0001F52B; "🔫") from a revolver to a toy water gun. According to Apple's announcement, the change will take effect with the release of iOS 10 this fall. Apple's announcement didn't explicitly mention the change or its rationale but the change is, predictably, ruffling some feathers.


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Apple Urged to Rethink Gun Emoji Change 37 comments

[...] The Emojipedia website argued that the symbol could still appear as a lifelike gun in messages sent to non-iOS users. Apple made the change in the wake of a series of shootings in the US.

However, Microsoft announced this week that its toy gun symbol would be redesigned as a more realistic-looking firearm. The emoji character system allows companies to use slightly different designs of the same basic objects, signs or expressions.

"The thing is, emojis already look different on different platforms and it does cause confusion," Jeremy Burge, editor of Emojipedia, told the BBC. "When we're dealing with guns and toys as a comparison, that's a whole new level of problems that we have there."

[...] "Apple has the most prominent emoji set that people use," said Mr Burge. "I think it has a high responsibility to be a bit cautious."

There was further criticism from web users, but a columnist in the Guardian praised the move as a statement on gun control.

"It's a smart, small part in the battle - which we're presently losing - to keep Americans safe," wrote Jean Hannah Edelstein. There have been calls previously - including from a campaign called Disarm the iPhone - to remove the handgun icon from iOS devices.

[...] Both Apple and Microsoft have said they are working with the Unicode Consortium - the body that maintains lists of emojis across different platforms.


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Microsoft Briefly Left Holding the Gun Emoji 68 comments

The pistol emoji ― 🔫 ― is being phasered out, or turned into a water pistol:

Google is the latest company to ditch the pistol with a new emoji update for Android users. The switch to a bright orange and yellow water gun, rolling out now, mimics changes made by Apple, WhatsApp, Twitter, and Samsung over the last few years. That leaves Microsoft as the only major platform with the realistic handgun emoji. True, Facebook still uses it, but a spokesperson for the company confirmed to Emojipedia that it would also be replacing its gun emoji with a toy water gun. The Verge has reached out to Microsoft for comment.

[...] Ironically, Microsoft initially displayed the gun emoji as a toy, but changed it to a revolver in 2016 as part of its emoji redesign project. With Google's (and Facebook's) latest move, Microsoft's gun emoji puts it at philosophical odds with the other giant tech companies based in the US where gun violence is a major concern. As we previously noted, in 2016 Apple successfully pushed to remove the rifle icon from the standardized collection of emoji.

However, later on the day The Verge's article was published, Microsoft revealed that it is jumping on the trend as well:

We are in the process of evolving our emojis to reflect our values and the feedback we've received. Here's a preview: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbqXVKBU0AAdXLk.jpg

Also at BBC and USA Today.

Previously: Apple Changes "Pistol" Emoji From Revolver to Toy Water Gun
Apple Urged to Rethink Gun Emoji Change
Twitter Changes Revolver Emoji to Water Pistol Emoji

Related: Kids Are Facing Criminal Charges for Using Emoji


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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:46PM (#383405)

    That might trigger some reactions from some people :)

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:25AM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:25AM (#383416) Journal

      #CodePointsMatter

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Dunbal on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:04AM

        by Dunbal (3515) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:04AM (#383433)

        #AllPointsMatter

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:55AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:55AM (#383430)

      Trigger the SJWs if the emojis is a gun, trigger the neutrality people if you change it, there's just no escape. But I think their choice puts them on the wrong side of history :^)

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:47PM (#383406)

    I'll just use the eggplant instead.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by archfeld on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:47PM

    by archfeld (4650) <treboreel@live.com> on Tuesday August 02 2016, @11:47PM (#383407) Journal

    Another grandstanding 'PC' act for public consumption. Apple is likely to break its' own shoulder doing so much back patting these days. Sadly they are not alone. These kind of acts get 'media' attention but in reality do nothing to address a real issue.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:19AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:19AM (#383412)

      This is why Apple is boring.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:36AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:36AM (#383450)

      What do you expect from a company run by a faggot?

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:32AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:32AM (#383422)

    Cop still mistakes it for a real gun, shoots black youth.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:43AM (#383427)

      If they shoot unarmed people, a toy gun is just asking for it.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:19AM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:19AM (#383460) Homepage Journal
      Is it funny, or is it insightful? I can't decide.
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      • (Score: 2) by krishnoid on Wednesday August 03 2016, @07:14AM

        by krishnoid (1156) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @07:14AM (#383518)

        I guess we need emojis of youths [youtube.com] of different races holding both models of guns to really obtain differentiable results.

    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:21AM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:21AM (#383462) Journal

      Maybe they should have changed it to a firetruck instead…!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @10:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @10:10PM (#383793)

      Did the cops find the owner of the iphone?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:39AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:39AM (#383424)

    What a farcical decision.

    According to the PC fascists everyone has to be treated like a child or we will all turn into raping, gun-touting nazis. Of course it's just an emoji so nobody will bat an eyelid, but it's these tiny things that reflect the true state of mind of those who advocate more sweeping censorship.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:09AM (#383435)

      "gun-touting," that's an awesome typo

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:08AM (#383455)

      or we will all turn into raping, gun-touting nazis.

      Seems it is already too late for some. Just saying.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by MostCynical on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:59AM

    by MostCynical (2589) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:59AM (#383431) Journal

    Every time an someone uses an emoji, they look like a tool. This is automatic. No coding required.

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    • (Score: 5, Touché) by jdavidb on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:24AM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:24AM (#383463) Homepage Journal
      🔧
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      • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:58PM

        by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:58PM (#383588) Homepage Journal
        It's a shame there's not a -1, Tool mod - I think I'd wear it with pride for this one.
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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by kurenai.tsubasa on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:30AM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:30AM (#383465) Journal

      ☞ Please tell me I can keep using these! ☜

      ☞ If not for these codepoints, we would have no way of representing old west posters in unicode!
      ☞ We must keep these codepoints for our heritage and posterity!

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by butthurt on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:06AM

    by butthurt (6141) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:06AM (#383434) Journal

    Does it matter that Apple also changed the direction in which the gun is pointing in the image? If a message was written with a gun between two faces or figures, the direction in which the gun points would seem to indicate who's pointing a gun at whom. If it still points the other way on other platforms or older iOS versions, that could lead to miscommunication.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Wednesday August 03 2016, @07:48AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday August 03 2016, @07:48AM (#383525) Homepage
      None of the clipart that's been added to unicode in the last 20 years has had anything to do with serious communication of important information. If a few twats now start shooting the wrong way, nothing of value is lost.
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      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @09:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @09:54AM (#383552)

        If a few twats now start shooting the wrong way, nothing of value is lost.

        I don't know about you, but I have a certain expectation regarding the direction of such shots.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by FatPhil on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:38PM

          by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday August 03 2016, @12:38PM (#383575) Homepage
          That might be because you're reading tweets, when you should be reading Keats.
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      • (Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday August 03 2016, @03:16PM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 03 2016, @03:16PM (#383610)

        None of the clipart that's been added to unicode in the last 20 years has had anything to do with serious communication of important information.

        🖕🏻

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    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @09:52AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @09:52AM (#383551)

      If the original text was that important to you then you should have taken a screenshot for posterity. Now you're just going to be stuck with a non-threatening toy gun aimed at the wrong emoji.

  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:11AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:11AM (#383437)

    No wonder my mob revenue dried up; my text threats lost their impact.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:53AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:53AM (#383453)

      Buddy, you gotta roll with the punches. "Mob" written backward is 💣 (bom). Apple hasn't yet changed it to a pomegranate.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @05:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @05:48AM (#383505)

        Oh, what a darling little plum emoji!

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday August 03 2016, @11:46AM

      by Bot (3902) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @11:46AM (#383562) Journal

      > my text threats lost their impact
      then use comic sans

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  • (Score: 2) by mendax on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:27AM

    by mendax (2840) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @01:27AM (#383446)

    <sarcasm>Apple is dead wrong with this decision (perhaps that's a pun). Instead of changing it to a water pistol, they should have changed it to a bazooka or a panzerfaust, the latter being more appropriate as it more closely resembles an erect penis. If you're going to going to introduce weapons into a conversation, you ought to mean it. (And that could also be considered sort of a pun.)
    </sarcasm>

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  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:12AM

    by arslan (3462) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @02:12AM (#383458)

    Damn it now what do I use as an emoji to represent a smoking gun?.... on the other hand, next time I need to go afk to pee I can use the squirt gun.

    Also, they've added more "diversity" into their emojis.. http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/08/apple-adds-more-gender-diverse-emoji-in-ios-10.html [apple.com]

    If netizens decides to make the squirt gun emoji a meme for going to pee it would be a real sucker punch to Apple =)

  • (Score: 5, Funny) by darkfeline on Wednesday August 03 2016, @04:27AM

    by darkfeline (1030) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @04:27AM (#383490) Homepage

    This is going to cause serious problems.

    Someone is going to put the "water gun" next to something like "having fun with kids!" and someone else will see it (correctly) as a pistol and report it to the police.

    Fun for everyone involved!

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @07:15AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @07:15AM (#383519)

      Everyone except the staffer who answers the Unicode Consortium's hotline.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @11:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @11:20AM (#383558)

    .. nothing of value was lost.

  • (Score: 2) by Entropy on Wednesday August 03 2016, @08:33PM

    by Entropy (4228) on Wednesday August 03 2016, @08:33PM (#383753)

    Which I do suppose could translate into "be pu--ies".