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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the hands-up-and-scream-(in-pain) dept.

Riding a roller coaster may help patients to break up and pass kidney stones:

When you're trying to pass a kidney stone, you're probably not thinking, in your cloud of agony, "Darn it! I should have ridden a roller coaster." And yet a new study suggests doing just that. According to research published in the Journal of the American Osteopathic Association [open, DOI: 10.7556/jaoa.2016.128] [DX], the bump and jolt of a roller coaster may actually help bump and jolt small kidney stones right through your system.

Dr. David Wartinger is one of the researchers who led the study, which involved bringing a silicone model packed with kidney stones and urine on Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom Big Thunder Mountain Railroad ride. Yes, it is as fascinating as it sounds. Wartinger, an osteopathic urological surgeon and professor at Michigan State University, said he got the idea from a patient who said he passed three kidney stones while riding the Orlando coaster. "It's hard to ignore that kind of a story, no matter how much of a cynic you are," Wartinger said. To be fair, you can't pin this one on Disney magic. "We have been hearing stories for years from people who went on vacation, gone to amusement parks, and ended up passing a kidney stone," he said.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:17PM (#408814)

    Jeff Bezos' vacation would've turned out much nicer.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:19PM (#408816)

    Wartinger [...] said he got the idea from a patient who said he passed three kidney stones while riding the Orlando coaster.

    Isn't this similar to how fuel got to contain lead? They accidentally found out that putting lead in it reduced/removed knocking [wikipedia.org] so they put it in... only to find out that it's super bad for everyone involved (minus the engine). The name of the scientist that has that on his list of achievements escapes me (help me internet/SN) and turned out to basically only invent stuff that kills people... Who was that guy again?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:21PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:21PM (#408817)

      Found the guy: Thomas Midgley Jr. [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 2) by fishybell on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:27PM

        by fishybell (3156) on Saturday October 01 2016, @04:27PM (#408818)

        the new plant was plagued by more cases of lead poisoning, hallucinations, insanity, and then five deaths in quick succession

        Sounds like an interesting guy to work for.

        • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:11PM

          by JNCF (4317) on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:11PM (#408828) Journal

          J. R. McNeill, an environmental historian, opined that Midgley "had more impact on the atmosphere than any other single organism in Earth's history."[27]

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:29PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:29PM (#408835)

            Watch out for Trump.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:31PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:31PM (#408859)

              ...and, were he to get the gig, Gary Johnson.
              His platform (and that of the Libertarian Party since before David Koch was a Libertarian candidate in 1980) is Privatize EVERYTHING and do away with all regulatory agencies. [google.com]

              IOW, **AFTER** someone **DIES**, his survivors get to take the megacorporation that caused his death to court to try to extract **monetary** damages.

              ...and another precept of Libertarianism is that you have to wait for generations while the invisible hand of the market corrects things like damage to the atmosphere--and to people's lungs--by coal (as well as arctic melting and the resulting sea level rise).

              Think the billionaires have too much control now?
              Libertarianism (what exists in Honduras) is worse.
              Honduras Is Sold as a Libertarian Paradise--I Went, and Discovered a Capitalist Nightmare [alternet.org]

              Now, in contrast to Johnson, Trump, and Hillary (whose DNA is Free Marketeer and who was only dragged kicking and screaming to -say- she opposes TPP), there was Bernie (who is now shilling for HRC), leaving only Jill Stein who represents the Green Party whose foundation is advocacy for a livable environment.

              .
              ...and, BTW, "Accidental" contains only 1 e and only 1 n.
              So, first, some Soylentils need a spellchecker.

              Next, I've also previously mentioned that the presentation of the Subject dialog which I see needs to be a few pixels taller to allow the red underlining of my spellchecker to show up.
              I assume that it's similarly broken for other Soylentils.
              (takyon has a workaround.) [soylentnews.org]

              -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:17PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:17PM (#408829)

      The only reason we don't have lead in gasoline is because it's politically correct now to pretend it causes health problems.

      • (Score: 2, TouchĂ©) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:22PM (#408832)

        I got some water from Flint, care to raise your kid on it?

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:44PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:44PM (#408860)

          It seems clear to me that GP's familial line -already- has reduced brain function--perhaps due to lead.

          ...then again, it could be genetic.

          -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

          • (Score: 1) by Francis on Sunday October 02 2016, @01:55AM

            by Francis (5544) on Sunday October 02 2016, @01:55AM (#408943)

            To be fair, that's not because there was leaded gasoline being burned, it was the lead paint chips when the family mistook them for potato chips.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:29PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:29PM (#408858)

        What did the chemist consume for food and energy?

        Pb and J.

      • (Score: 1) by Francis on Sunday October 02 2016, @01:52AM

        by Francis (5544) on Sunday October 02 2016, @01:52AM (#408940)

        The only reason we don't have lead in the gas is because we decided to stop putting it in gas as an anti-knock agent.

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday October 02 2016, @11:53AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday October 02 2016, @11:53AM (#409046) Journal

      Actually when they put the lead in, they knew damn well that it was not healthy. After all, lead wasn't exactly a new, unexplored substance. But of course, it made them huge profits, so they used every method in the playbook to downplay the danger.
      From this article: [thenation.com]

      the severe health hazards of leaded gasoline were known to its makers and clearly identified by the US public health community more than seventy-five years ago, but were steadfastly denied by the makers, because they couldn’t be immediately quantified

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:11PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday October 01 2016, @05:11PM (#408827) Journal

    Five years of sea duty. A fair portion of it was in rough seas. One of my shipmates had kidney stones, and the weather was to damned rough to send a chopper over from the carrier. No medevac, buddy, just suffer. I sat up nights with him, for four nights. Those stones weren't passing, and the rough seas only made the man more miserable than he already was. Finally, the weather got good enough to do a medevac, they took the man to a real doctor aboard the carrier. Later, he told us that just getting aboard the carrier where he wasn't being hammered constantly was a major relief. Proper drugs didn't hurt him any, either. He finally passed the stones, and we got him back 7 or 8 days after he left.

    Maybe that roller coaster might help SOME people, but I'm not putting any money on it.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Saturday October 01 2016, @06:05PM

      by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Saturday October 01 2016, @06:05PM (#408844)

      Never been at sea, but I suspect that most roller coasters experience higher G forces (in loops mainly).

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 02 2016, @02:57AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 02 2016, @02:57AM (#408965)

      After the carrier, he had to be put in a fighter and properly shaken.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday October 02 2016, @05:21AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday October 02 2016, @05:21AM (#408987) Journal

        Ya know - that idea can be scary to a destroyerman. Airedales are a different subspecies of man from us. I guess most of us would survive a fighter jock showing off, but not all destroyermen are equally suited to life in the air. There's a reason why we all migrate to one branch of the service or another - we also migrate to communities within the services. Destroyermen and bubbleheads are more interchangeable than destroyermen and airedales.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 01 2016, @07:47PM (#408861)

    A folk remedy that seems to have some evidence that it works is to eat a few radishes regularly.
    It's a cheap solution as well.

    ...and, of course, don't allow yourself to get dehydrated.
    ...and the best indicator that you will get a kidney stone is that you already had one.
    (I had a kidney stone at age 26 and another at age 49.)

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]