The composition of Infosys' U.S. workforce is too lopsided -- overwhelmingly South Asian -- to be an accident, allege the plaintiffs in a discrimination lawsuit.
The plaintiffs, four IT workers from around the U.S., brought their discrimination lawsuit against the India-based IT services giant in 2013. This week, they filed a motion seeking class-action certification from 2009, and say the potential pool of plaintiffs may be as large as 125,000.
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Neumark wrote that "the share of South Asian workers in Infosys' United States-based workforce, when compared to the relevant labor market, is 301.17 standard deviations higher, and the statistical likelihood that this disparity is due to chance -- as opposed to a systematic difference in hiring favoring one group over the other -- is less than 0.0000001%, or less than 1 in 1 billion."
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @08:05AM
.....but this is just stupid. Four (4) plaintiffs? An Indian company hiring Indians?
The plaintiffs should shut up and get other jobs. I quote the prophet RMS:
See, RMS knew this day would come, and it was a self-fulfilling prophesy, because RMS began the Free Software Movement that reduced the market value of IT workers to zero.
Thank your leader, Saint Stallman himself. Thank him by suing the Free Software Foundation instead.
Let us not forget that RMS is a total crackpot:
In the long run, making programs free is a step toward the postscarcity world, where nobody will have to work very hard just to make a living. People will be free to devote themselves to activities that are fun, such as programming, after spending the necessary ten hours a week on required tasks such as legislation, family counseling, robot repair and asteroid prospecting. There will be no need to be able to make a living from programming.
Where's your postscarcity world now? LOL
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @09:00AM
Me love you long time...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @09:02AM
That's an East Asian stereotype, fool, this story is about South Asia.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Osamabobama on Friday November 04 2016, @08:59PM
Aren't we at war with East Asia?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @09:08AM
Probably programming will not be as lucrative on the new basis as it is now.
Thirty years after this shit was written, IT isn't lucrative anymore!
But that is not an argument against the change. It is not considered an injustice that sales clerks make the salaries that they now do. If programmers made the same, that would not be an injustice either.
Walmart is hiring!
(In practice they would still make considerably more than that.)
Don't worry, the free market is fixing this, as employers wizen up to the fact that IT losers are fucking worthless!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @10:32AM
There's nothing crackpot about that quote... why choose RMS saying something reasonable when there are tons of actually crackpot things you could point to?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Friday November 04 2016, @12:54PM
It's right there in the first line of the summary.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Friday November 04 2016, @03:40PM
Not here yet, but there are signs it is coming.
Humans Need Not Apply [youtube.com] (CGP Grey)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @08:40PM
IT workers are pro-feminist and anti-marry-girl-children.
They also laughed when the mfcturing jobs were outsourced.
FUCK them: they get what they deserve.
Bro-Pound to based Stallman.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @09:17AM
Silly Americans, IT is for Indians!
Just like Landscaping is for Mexicans!
I see landscapers all the time, but I never see anyone suing the landscaping companies for only hiring Mexicans!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @11:08AM
The 'mexicans' you talk about are usually owner-operators, or have one or two hired hands.
Of the ones neighbors/family have used, one was a husband/wife couple, another was a white dude with one or two mexicans, a third was himself mexican with one other worker, and the rest were all mexicans.
Point being: Most of the disparity of mexicans working lawn care over whites is whites not wanting to do the work, not wanting to invest in the equipment (only one or two have been working out of a pickup, the rest were working out of a trailer attached to a 1/2-3/4 ton pickup.), or being unable to compete with mexicans on cost, quality, or quantity.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 04 2016, @11:09AM
What landscaping companies? Landscapers are mostly independent and/or small businesses. One old Mexican might find and arrange jobs for thirty or fifty younger Mexicans, and he gets a small cut from each of them. That isn't even a "company". There are no formal arrangements - some people want to work, they go out and work. They find lazy assed middle class (or less wealthy low class with delusions of grandeur) and offer to do some work. They do the job, they get paid. End of story, no contracts, unless you consider a verbal agreement to come back next week a "contract". (Yes, that might be enforceable in some courts, but good luck with proving a contract was violated!)
If there is a landscaping company in the Fortune 500 actively smuggling illegal aliens into the country, you probably ought to do a little whistle blowing.
THAT is what American corporations are doing, except the smuggling is out in the open, and paid off politicos look the other way.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @08:46PM
>End of story, no contracts, unless you consider a verbal agreement to come back next week a "contract". (Yes, that might be enforceable in some courts, but good luck with proving a contract was violated!)
Ofcourse it is a contract, you fucking retard.
It was a promise for a promise.
X promises to pay Y
Y promises to do work for X
It is to be completed within the year (one week later).
It is below the statutory amount for a required writing (how much is a lawn? 100 dollars?, way way below the SOF requirement).
It is not a contract for the sale of land nor one with marriage in mind.
So yes: it is enforceable, it is a contract, and yes the court will entertain it, listen to the claims, and decided.
You are against men having female children as brides, you are cattle, so I'm not surprised you don't know this you fucking retarded piece of shit.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 05 2016, @12:27AM
Like I said - good luck enforcing a verbal contract. He said, she said, blah blah blah - how many lawyers are going to take a case like that, without charging far more than the dispute is even worth? That's the kind of case only an idiot would go to court for. "Your honor, dude owes me $150, and I'm going to need that money to pay toward the ten thousand my lawyer is charging!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:37AM
Thats why you have small claims court. You do have those in your backwards country don't you?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @01:45PM
This is ridiculous.
Obviously the real problem is (choose any):
Did I miss any?
(Score: 2) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Friday November 04 2016, @03:32PM
Not sure if you were going for sarcasm of not.
I doubt race significantly effects any of those points.
For point 1 to be true, the average white applicant would have to:
Point 2 has mostly been discredited. There is no strong evidence that any race is inherently smarter than another. IQ tests test education as much as they test intelligence.
Point 3 is just silly (invoking Poe's law).
(Score: 3, Insightful) by GungnirSniper on Friday November 04 2016, @03:28PM
Why does the media feel it is okay to point out this criminally-discriminatory company is India-based but the workers they use are "South Asian"? Are they hiring lots of Bengali and Thai people too?
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(Score: 2) by BK on Friday November 04 2016, @05:29PM
Speculating: South Asian is a demographic category that is recognized by the courts where Indian is not.
Also, Thais are not "South Asian [wikipedia.org]".
...but you HAVE heard of me.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @05:38PM
What?!? Gugenhammy finds a conspiracy rooted in his own ignorance?
That's a first!
(Score: 2) by GungnirSniper on Friday November 04 2016, @11:16PM
Regarding the Thais, that was exactly my point; South Asian is ill-defined.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday November 04 2016, @05:40PM
Why does the media feel it is okay to point out this criminally-discriminatory company is India-based but the workers they use are "South Asian"?
Because that's what the lawsuit says. [scribd.com]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @04:48PM
What are the statistical odds that the NBA should be made up of 74.4% black players in a country where 17% of the population is black?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @05:46PM
> What are the statistical odds that the NBA should be made up of 74.4% black players in a country where 17% of the population is black?
What are the statistical odds that the NBA should be made up of 74.4% black players but only 43% black head coaches, 2% black majority owners, and 18% black league office staff?
What are the statistical odds that the NFL should be made up of 66% black players, but only 9% black head coaches, 0% black majority owners and 9% black league office staff?
https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/diversity-in-the-nba-the-nfl-and-mlb/ [fivethirtyeight.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:57AM
Yeah, put some Infosys Indian players on those teams.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @08:47PM
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by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04, @04:46PM (#422620)
>End of story, no contracts, unless you consider a verbal agreement to come back next week a "contract". (Yes, that might be enforceable in some courts, but good luck with proving a contract was violated!)
Ofcourse it is a contract, you fucking retard.
It was a promise for a promise.
X promises to pay Y
Y promises to do work for X
It is to be completed within the year (one week later).
It is below the statutory amount for a required writing (how much is a lawn? 100 dollars?, way way below the SOF requirement).
It is not a contract for the sale of land nor one with marriage in mind.
So yes: it is enforceable, it is a contract, and yes the court will entertain it, listen to the claims, and decided.
You are against men having female children as brides, you are cattle, so I'm not surprised you don't know this you fucking retarded piece of shit.
(Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Friday November 04 2016, @09:20PM
I'm not sure they're very good at statistics...
How many people would you need to in order to make 301.17 standard deviations a meaningful number? I would expect that area of most statistical distributions would be dealing with such small fractions of the population that we would be discussing the number of cells within that last person that can claim non-Asian origin.
If anybody is willing to drill down into supporting documents and analyze the math, I think it would be instructive. Here is the link that contains the offending quote: H1B Work [computerworld.com].
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