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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday November 05 2016, @12:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-a-boat-pirates dept.

In January, the British firm Automated Ships and its Norwegian partners Kongsberg Maritime will begin work on the first offshore vessel that can be run with no captain, crew, or engineers.

The ship, named the Hrönn, is being designed as an offshore support vessel capable of delivering cargo to remote locations, launching and retrieving unmanned submersible craft, and acting as a resupply vessel for North Sea oil rigs. It will be launched next year and, pending successful sea trials, will be certified for offshore use the following year.

"The advantages of unmanned ships are manifold, but primarily center on the safe-guarding of life and reduction in the cost of production and operations; removing people from the hazardous environment of at-sea operations and re-employing them on-shore to monitor and operate robotic vessels remotely; along with the significantly decreased cost in constructing ships, will revolutionize the marine industry," said Automated Ships MD Brett Phaneuf.

The shipping industry is keener than its automotive cousins to get robot ships running commercially. The industry has been revolutionized by containers, which slashed the cost of shipping goods, and is now hoping for similar savings by taking humans out of the equation, or helping to augment them.

Sigh. There goes your bright future at sea.


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:00AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:00AM (#422697)

    Star Trek covered this. Klingons attack robot ships transporting grain to Sherman's Planet.

    Oh right. No one ever watched The Animated Series.

    Carry on, morons!

    • (Score: 2) by Snotnose on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:17AM

      by Snotnose (1623) on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:17AM (#422701)

      The Animated Series did the Niven story where a Slaver Stasis box had a spy's screwdriver. Click once, it dug holes. Click twice, it was a laser, etc etc etc.

      Got Netflix a couple years back, first thing I searched for was that ep.

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      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday November 05 2016, @07:28AM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday November 05 2016, @07:28AM (#422763) Journal

        The Animated Series did [...] had a spy's screwdriver. Click once, it dug holes. Click twice, it was a laser, etc etc etc.

        Was the spy actually a doctor? :-)

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Snotnose on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:13AM

    by Snotnose (1623) on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:13AM (#422699)

    It would save more money to automate the loading/unloading of ships. Dockworkers make an obscene amount of money for what they do, and they seem to like going on strike every few years.

    Notice how I can rail about H1-Bs taking my job, but blissfully claim AI should take dockworkers jobs. Being able to hold both viewpoints in my head is what makes me an American :)

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    • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:30AM (#422702)

      On the contrary, drone ships provide job opportunities for recent veterans who never saw real combat, because they worked as video game console operators and bombed brown people on another continent while staying safely out of harm's way themselves.

      Stargate ran an episode about how using remote controlled unmanned drones against manned targets is immoral and the people engaging in remote drone warfare are war criminals worse than Hitler. O'Neill slammed the iris in their faces when he found out what they were doing.

      Of course that was fiction. In reality we call war criminals Americans.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:56AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:56AM (#422709)

      If the government decided to put dockworkers out of work by setting up a program to import cheap foreigners, and then exempt those workers from labor laws, there would be riots.

      People getting put out of work by robots just frees up those people to do other productive work. Work that can be done by robots should be done by robots. Work that can only be done by people should be done on a level playing field.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:09AM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:09AM (#422714) Journal

        other productive work

        Prostitution, drug dealing, and subsistence farming.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @04:34AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @04:34AM (#422743)

          Sounds like my resume. You hiring?

  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:36AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:36AM (#422703) Journal

    You've got to have a lot of faith in your computers to put tens/hundreds of millions of dollars out to sea without a human aboard. Faith - or just crazy. The unexpected WILL HAPPEN.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:50AM (#422708)

      And, also a lot of faith in the machinery on the ship. Big ships that I know about all have onboard engineers/mechanics and well stocked repair/machine shops.

      • (Score: 2) by Username on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:27AM

        by Username (4557) on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:27AM (#422719)

        Well, they’re not like planes that will drop out of the sky if the motor goes out. They can just float there until a maintenance ship comes to fix them.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by Bobs on Saturday November 05 2016, @12:36PM

          by Bobs (1462) on Saturday November 05 2016, @12:36PM (#422812)

          They can just float there until a maintenance ship comes to fix them

          Unless it is near the shore, or in a storm or the electrical systems go offline and you no longer know where it is.

          Here’s hoping they christen it the “Murphy"

          • (Score: 2) by Username on Saturday November 05 2016, @08:11PM

            by Username (4557) on Saturday November 05 2016, @08:11PM (#422915)

            Unless it is near the shore

            Then it beaches itself like any other ship would that suffers the same problem near shore.

            in a storm

            There is nothing alive on the ship, doesn’t need windows or vents, just a few water tight doors. If I were making the ship, I would design it to still work while capsized.

            electrical systems go offline

            battery powered pingers, like what they got on aircraft.

            All of this stuff would be very expensive, and wouldn’t work on a car, but would work on boatymcboatface.

  • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:44AM

    by captain normal (2205) on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:44AM (#422706)

    International Maritime Oranization COLREGs
    Part B-Rule 5 "requires that "every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision."
    http://www.imo.org/en/OurWork/safety/navigation/pages/preventing-collisions.aspx [imo.org]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:50AM (#422707)

      Read the summary:

      employing them on-shore to monitor and operate robotic vessels remotely

      The crew is on shore and the look-out on the ship is a cameraphone.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday November 05 2016, @07:32AM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday November 05 2016, @07:32AM (#422764) Journal

        Yeah, and the network never has any outages …

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Saturday November 05 2016, @03:35AM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday November 05 2016, @03:35AM (#422735)

      Radar is better than a mate in the crow's nest.

      I'm surprised nobody is making a big deal about the lack of crew quarters, supplies, living space, wheel house, etc. On larger ships it's a smaller percentage of the total vessel, but for a smallish supply ship ditching the crew is a significant upgrade in carrying capacity.

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      • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Saturday November 05 2016, @05:22AM

        by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday November 05 2016, @05:22AM (#422747) Journal

        Radar is only good for large ships, or ships with radar enhancers.
        Many, many smaller sailing ships get run over (and often sunk) by larger ships that "just didn't see" the smaller boat.
        Camera operated ships will just be worse.

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        • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:20PM

          by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:20PM (#422821)

          Smaller sailing ships in the oil fields of the North sea (where these auto-supply craft are proposed to operate) can probably be convinced to put a reflector on the top of their mast. The mates in the crows' nests of the conventional ships won't be seeing them anyway.

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  • (Score: 2) by drussell on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:17AM

    by drussell (2678) on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:17AM (#422715) Journal

    It will never get hijacked.... ?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by maxwell demon on Saturday November 05 2016, @07:34AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday November 05 2016, @07:34AM (#422765) Journal

      Well, for the pirates it has the advantage that they don't have to get on board and fight with people to hijack it. Just compromise the computer systems and take over control.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by ilPapa on Saturday November 05 2016, @03:30AM

    by ilPapa (2366) on Saturday November 05 2016, @03:30AM (#422733) Journal

    British Firm to Build World's First Offshore Automated Ship

    Wake me up when you've built the first onshore automated ship.

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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by GDX on Saturday November 05 2016, @03:31AM

    by GDX (1950) on Saturday November 05 2016, @03:31AM (#422734)

    That is unfeasible unless the automatic ones are the small delivery craft doing the transport from the main ship to the final offshore destination. After all, modern cargo ship are near autonomous, run with a few people and most of of the crew are for maintenance.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:40PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 05 2016, @01:40PM (#422824)

    removing people from the hazardous environment of at-sea operations and re-employing them on-shore to monitor and operate robotic vessels remotely

    even though most of the positions would be different, right? i mean will you really need a deck hand on shore, for instance? Will the deck hand be qualified to wield the robo ship? i doubt it. sounds like unnecessary PR BS. why not just be realistic and say stuff like "losers will have more free time to learn an up to date skill"? lmao...

  • (Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Saturday November 05 2016, @06:02PM

    by Fnord666 (652) on Saturday November 05 2016, @06:02PM (#422889) Homepage
    I thought the "Of Course I Still Love You" [wikipedia.org] would have been the first.