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posted by on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:07PM   Printer-friendly
from the controlled-by-clint-eastwood's-mind dept.

Pravda reports on a super-advanced aircraft which could be real or could be propaganda:

This top-secret aircraft, known as the U-71, is part of Project 4202 of the Russian missile program. There is very little information about the aircraft. Supposedly, the aircraft can develop the speeds of up to 11,000 kilometers per hour. This glider aircraft is also said to be super-maneuverable and capable of entering near space.

The tests of the new aircraft still continue, although it is already believed that Russia will take a nuclear advantage of the USA with the help of the new type of weapon by 2025.

[...] The information about the project leaked only in February 2015. Pentagon officials admitted that the new Russian weapon would ruin the plan for a missile defense system around Russia. To make matters worse, the new weapon would make the USA absolutely defenseless.

The U-71 is a hypersonic aircraft equipped with electronic warfare system. It will be able to fly across the USA in minutes and disable all electronic detection stations on the way.

Nothing technical here, folks, the article doesn't make any specific technological claims, or explain how the aircraft works.

The article is interesting, as well as the audio link on the page, in that it makes a pretty plain statement. The only way to negotiate with Washington, is to make Washington fear you.

I'm not convinced the aircraft exists, and certainly not convinced that it is capable of what is claimed. It's going to knock out all of our electronic defenses in one pass? Really?


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Geotti on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:44PM

    by Geotti (1146) on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:44PM (#439829) Journal

    I'm not convinced the aircraft exists, and certainly not convinced that it is capable of what is claimed. It's going to knock out all of our electronic defenses in one pass? Really?

    What's I find more interesting is the Pentagon allegedly admitting that such an aircraft "would ruin the plan for a missile defense system around Russia."

    Weren't the SAMs and THAADs pointed at Iran and North Korea? What happened? Someone set up us the bomb?

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Sulla on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:47PM

      by Sulla (5173) on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:47PM (#439830) Journal

      Kind of fishy

      "Oh the russians might have this thing, hurry and give us more money"

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      • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:50PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 10 2016, @11:50PM (#439833)

        "Global cooling is going to destroy the entire planet in the next 10 years, hurry and give us more money"

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by driverless on Sunday December 11 2016, @07:08AM

        by driverless (4770) on Sunday December 11 2016, @07:08AM (#439925)

        Kind of fishy

        It's been published in Pravda, it's got to be true. By definition, the Russians wouldn't call it "The Truth" if it wasn't.

    • (Score: 2) by art guerrilla on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:00AM

      by art guerrilla (3082) on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:00AM (#439834)

      so-o-o-o...
      as some article somewheres on the fake news intertubes sez: the pentagram has confessed to (*at least*) 'wasting' (illegal dispensing of armaments, hijacking of arms, insider 'shrinkage', etc?) an amount which is TWICE what the dread pirtate putin et al spend on their entire military machine...
      so-o-o-o...
      if you do the math, the cost to develop such a system in reality is, um, like, a *lot*, like, a million elementary schools, or sumpin... anyway, the cost to *say* you have or are developing 'X' systems is approximately $4.87 per propaganda posting... (they use mechanical turk a lot...)
      so-o-o-o...
      which do you think is most likely ? ? ?

      • (Score: 2) by Geotti on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:48AM

        by Geotti (1146) on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:48AM (#439846) Journal

        Well, to be honest, there's little reason to doubt that all of the actors (US, Russia, China) already have (working) hypersonic prototypes.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:07AM (#439837)

      > What's I find more interesting is the Pentagon allegedly admitting

      Hold up there.
      Its Pravda. You know Pravda, right? The Russia Today before there was a Russia Today.
      Isn't everyone here old enough to have lived through the days when Pravda was the first entry in the thesaurus for Propaganda?

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by charon on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:43AM

        by charon (5660) on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:43AM (#439844) Journal
        But it means Truth! How could they be lying?
      • (Score: 2) by Geotti on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:46AM

        by Geotti (1146) on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:46AM (#439845) Journal

        That's why I wrote allegedly, I'd be interested in seeing a quote, which is missing from the Pravda article.

    • (Score: 2) by driverless on Sunday December 11 2016, @07:06AM

      by driverless (4770) on Sunday December 11 2016, @07:06AM (#439923)

      I'm not convinced the aircraft exists, and certainly not convinced that it is capable of what is claimed.

      Just wait till it teleports into US airspace and starts dropping its Red Mercury bombs, then you'll be sorry.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Appalbarry on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:07AM

    by Appalbarry (66) on Sunday December 11 2016, @12:07AM (#439836) Journal

    Build a wall! A YUGE wall, so big that no plane can fly over it!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @01:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @01:10AM (#439851)

      And just who is going to pay for such a grand wall?

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday December 11 2016, @01:29AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday December 11 2016, @01:29AM (#439853) Journal

        The Russians, duh. Haven't you been paying attention?

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        • (Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Sunday December 11 2016, @02:20AM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday December 11 2016, @02:20AM (#439863) Journal

          I think Runaway just got tired of being afraid of Mooslims, and is waxing nostalgic for the Cold War. Nothing like Rooskies with secret weapons to make a hillbilly conservative pee his pants.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Sunday December 11 2016, @04:16AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday December 11 2016, @04:16AM (#439886) Journal

            And . . . Score!!!! All it takes is using the term "hillbilly", and Runaway1942 will throw a flamebait mod. But I, for one, welcome our new Republican overlords, but we should, as a world, and especially those of you who are Americans, resist the paranoia of the far right. Really, they are just so scared! I mean, Runaway here thinks that Sharia law is coming to Texarkana in the near future, and that he might have to get gay married sometime soon (already has a dress picked out!). But the Trump cabinet picks are not much better. Retired Gen. Michael Flynn has failed to hold his fudge when it comes to Islamophobia, and his son is even worse. These people are afraid that they will be defeated, and so they already are. I recommend the position of all free people everywhere, which is to quote Franklin Delano Roosevelt: " We have nothing to fear, but fear itself, and Donald Trump." That may not be an entirely accurate quote, but we live in a post-factual world, and as Abrahan Lincoln said: "Do not trust everything you read on the internets, because you cannot always verify it, and it might come from jmorris!" I am totally sure Lincoln said that, because I was there. So suck it up, Runaway1492! We got your back, we liberals and persons committed to democracy and the rule of law, nothing too bad will happen to you. Wait, are you Jewish?

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by Snotnose on Sunday December 11 2016, @01:41AM

      by Snotnose (1623) on Sunday December 11 2016, @01:41AM (#439856)

      The problem with the wall is it's gonna be on our southern border. If the Russians own a globe they'll notice the fastest path is over the north pole, over Canada, from there to Detroit. By the time they hit the wall they're invading Mexico, which I don't think they have any interest in doing. Unless they want some of that fine, fine cocaine. But there's cheaper ways to get that.

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      • (Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:03AM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:03AM (#439951) Journal

        Ah, so in reality Trump wants to build the wall in order to protect the Mexicans from the Russians? Well, that would certainly explain why the Mexicans should pay for it. ;-)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @03:18AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @03:18AM (#439869)

    What are their names, titles, and what did they say specifically?

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:46AM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:46AM (#439953) Homepage

    Pravda reports

    Propaganda, then.

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  • (Score: 2) by Bobs on Sunday December 11 2016, @05:01PM

    by Bobs (1462) on Sunday December 11 2016, @05:01PM (#440006)

    Right.

    This is just propaganda / wish fulfillment / fear-mongering.

    What is the benefit to Russia of announcing a real super weapon 10-years in advance? Just gives people 10-years to come ups with a counter.

    This is also no big deal - compare and contrast to strategic implications of sub-launched Ballistic missiles.

    Putin wants Russia to be feared again, and would like low-key cold-war to keep his people in line instead of thinking about their lousy economy and government.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:46PM (#440077)

      Maybe all the world leaders work together now, figuring out how to keep the sheeple scared. "You announce a scary new weapon so we can get more funding, and we'll do maneuvers off your coast to make sure your people remember we're the big and scary bad guy so of course more military spending is necessary."

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @04:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @04:52PM (#440429)

    You really don't think that the state-acting hackers from Russia haven't penetrated files relating to the X-37B? And that Russian design engineers aren't making their own monkey copies of same? Or that even without espionage, that something is known to exist means they can do parallel development? In that case, you don't know Buran. [wikipedia.org]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @08:39PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @08:39PM (#440994)

    ...on the Trump Shuttle