The BBC reports that supporters of US President-elect Donald Trump are urging a boycott of the Star Wars film, Rogue One, next week, over claims that scenes had been reshot after the election to make the film more of a thinly-veiled jab linking the president-elect to racism.
Supporters of Donald Trump are urging a boycott of the Star Wars film, Rogue One, due for US release next week.
The campaign began with a series of tweets from activist Jack Posobiec, who claimed the writers changed the film to add scenes linking Mr Trump to racism.
Screenwriter Chris Weitz said that this was "completely fake", though he and another writer have tweeted their opposition to the US president-elect.
#DumpStarWars has been retweeted 120,000 times in the past 24 hours.
In a Periscope video, Jack Posobiec, who is an activist with Citizens for Trump, claimed the writers had said the Empire in the film "is a white supremacist organization like the Trump administration and the diverse rebels are going to defeat them".
"They're trying to make the point of using this movie to push the false narrative... that Trump is a racist." he said.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:20PM
Yup, Trump supporters are totally less crazy than the insane liberals who smear everyone with racist/etc. and promote fake news through the lamestream media...
HHAHAHAHA you crazy bastards!! Stand up, be proud, let us all see who we should be keeping an eye on for signs of snapping... chances are good that the crazies also have a concealed carry permit. At least liberal crazies will just stand in your way being a nuisance, not a clear and present danger.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:30PM
Except of course for all the liberals who are also BLM.
"Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon"
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:40PM
Which is why I'm OK with them boycotting this one. Less chance of someone in the audience accidentally shooting themselves and several others during the movie.
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday December 12 2016, @01:13AM
And, worse, making "pew pew pew!" sounds while doing it, or going "wum wum" waving that large knife around.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @09:38PM
Well, yes, there is that as well. But please note that no one really expected that Luke Skywalker or Yoda were in any danger of accidentally cutting off their own arm or leg while wielding those light sabres. Big difference there.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Rosco P. Coltrane on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:51PM
If Trump supporters see themselves - or their champion - defamed as racists in the movie, it's because they themselves know they are racist, or at least that there's something racist about the whole Trump crowd they belong to. If they genuinely didn't, they wouldn't even notice any similarity in the first place, and they wouldn't raise a stink as a result.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:55PM
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:28PM
No, protesting one's innocence is perfectly fine.
However, if you see racist behavior in a movie, and your first thought is "that's me"... that's quite telling, eh?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:36PM
I'm only racist against SJW'ers. SJW... The biggest group of losers I've ever seen.
(Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @01:42AM
> SJW... The biggest group of losers I've ever seen.
That's factually incorrect.
The biggest group of losers you've ever seen are the people who whine about SJW.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:45PM
SJWs are the same as trump supporters anyhow you can both go fuck each other since you're ruining the country for you asinine demands to have you way.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @07:57PM
so this!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:41PM
if you see racist behavior in a movie, and your first thought is "that's me"... that's quite telling, eh?
“We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are.”
― Anaïs Nin
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @05:23PM
No, protesting one's innocence is perfectly fine.
However, if you see racist behavior in a movie, and your first thought is "that's me"... that's quite telling, eh?
There is a reason slander and libel laws exist. Imagine somebody made a movie about "Bnonymous Doward" who had your job, married somebody similar to your spouse, went to a school similar to yours, was about your age, lived in a similar neighborhood, also did your hobby, and was otherwise like you. However, this "Bnonymous Doward" was also a flagrant racist. And remember that business deal you turned down a while ago due to the potential partner having bad financial statements, Bnonymous turned down a similar deal due to the counterparty having "dirty blood."
I don't know enough about the situation to say whether these protests are fair, unfair, or these protests are some publicity stunt by Disney (unlikely for Disney to do so, but other publishers have done similar things in the past). However, it is very easy for a non-racist to see themselves within a racist character depending on the other attributes of the character, and it's very reasonable to take offense at the accusation.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @10:04PM
No.... But saying the stormtrooper boot fits as if it was custom made just for you....... yeah they might can wear the stormtrooper label then.
(Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Sunday December 11 2016, @09:58PM
"star wars: not racist, but #1 with racists!"
/stolen
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:58PM
Trump isn't racist the same way anybody who begins a sentence with "I'm not racist, but ..." isn't racist.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday December 12 2016, @12:24AM
Now, let's put it to song [youtube.com]!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:00PM
And the latest ghostbusters failed because people are misogynists. Not because it was a terrible movie.
I will do what I usually do with movies. Pick it up in a bargain bin. Also I would vote for Trump *again*.
Or maybe you could give me some more armchair pop psychology.
Maybe if you looked at it from their POV. All of the actors and directors and producers basically spent the past 6 months flipping them off. Maybe they have a bone to pick?
(Score: 4, Funny) by mhajicek on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:44PM
I'll vote for Trump when he hits the bargain bin.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:01AM
Trump won because Cliton was from the very bottom of the bargain bin, the one leftover that nobody wanted. Bernie would've won, but too many woman wanted a female president. I've heard many woman say they've waited a long time for a female to run, and look what happened. Next time choose carefully. BTW, I think Obama won for the same reason, just to get a non-white in office.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @08:48AM
Will the "time for a woman" crowd get behind a president Palin, or do women only count when they are democrats like they are supposed to be? Many republicans would be delighted to put Palin in the whitehouse.
There is also a female McCain now in office, daughter of the senator. She is a realistic hope, starting a dozen years from now.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @09:06AM
You already know any conservative women are traitors to the cause, buoyed only by the sacrifices of feminist in the tradition of Bell Hooks; they are jackals feasting on the bones of those they betrayed.
Much like conservative blacks are considered Uncle Toms by daring to prosper under the auspices of systemic oppression, only to become oppressors themselves.
Don't even get me started on gay republicans.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Monday December 12 2016, @11:04AM
Well obviously, if you had Palin vs a male democrat, and someone whose ONLY criterium for voting was the candidate's personal plumbing, then yes, obviously that person would vote for Palin.
If, however, a bunch of left-leaning people choose the democrat over Palin because they think Palin is a poisonous thick-as-shit self-publicising right-wing redneck dipshit and don't want to vote for her, then I think that shows they are choosing competence over gender. Which is a good thing, right? Not sure why you are complaining about that. Is it because all the so-called SJWs aren't living up to the simplistic and villainous preconceptions you like to brand them with?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:29PM
Nikki Haley would be the best such candidate for the Republican branch of the uniparty to put toward President.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Monday December 12 2016, @05:16PM
Only 0.5% or so of US women voters voted for the Green Party's candidate?
Your country is SO fucked.. which would be ok, as a matter of sovereignty(sp), but for the fact that it's the richest and most powerful country in the whole world.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @04:49AM
Obama's win may have paved the way for the "anti-precedent" president movement. He was more electable than someone like Sharpton, Jackson, or even Carson. As president, he was underwhelming, however. Many may feel that Clinton would have been a similar underwhelming "precedent" president. Of course it didn't help Hillary's cause that she has been riding Bill's coattails for decades. That may have also put off a number of women voters who feel that their groundbreaker should be deserving and electable on their own merits.
Would love to see someone like Condi Rice on the ticket in 2020 or 2024. Woman minority, and much more electable than Clinton ever was.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by LoRdTAW on Monday December 12 2016, @02:49PM
Whats funny about the new ghost busters was that it was full of sexism that no one seemed to mind. I saw it, because this girl I was seeing wanted to, it mostly sucked but had a few funny moments. The girls hire a secretary, a hunky guy dumber than a bag of hammers who they all lust over. Reverse the rolls, have a few men drool over an incredibly dumb blond with big tits and the same people who praised the film would have erupted in a frenzy. The far-left/right twats are the big problem in this country. Each side blind to its own stupidity which is why we had the two worst candidates of all time. Also, the film is not even worth the bargain bin price IMHO.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday December 12 2016, @10:05PM
The girls hire a secretary, a hunky guy dumber than a bag of hammers who they all lust over.
Man, that guy was *SO DUMB*.
I really have nothing else to add to your point, sorry.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:59AM
You could make an obvious allusion to any given group in such a way that anyone familiar with the group would understand they are being depicted, whilst portraying behavior that is not necessarily characteristic to that group. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:17AM
Is this in the same way Jar Jar Binks was seen as a Step 'n' Fetch?
Crap argument is crap argument, akin to have you stopped beating your wife yet.
(Score: 2) by BsAtHome on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:02PM
There is the famous "All persons fictitious disclaimer [wikipedia.org]". I guess they feel it does not apply to them?
Please lets not feed yet another of the gremlins of non-social regurgitating of non-news, sigh...
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:14PM
Well, Trump is a semi-fictional person created by the media.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:14PM
Nothing but the totally wonderful and innocent story of how an empowered woman teaming up with a black guy and a tan guy against the evil forces of white male, other white male, and giant white male.
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:58PM
Would be nice to see some diversity among the Sith [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:02PM
Wait, is the black guy the one who used to be a stormtrooper for the white racist empire?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:10PM
Talk about whitewashing a black man :)
(And yes I do realize that the armor is as much black as it is white.. coincidence? I think not!)
(Score: 5, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday December 12 2016, @01:19AM
Darth Vader was also an allegory of a Black man's giant phallus, and by extension the sexual prowess of the Black man compare to puny lil' ol White guys - As if the heavy breathing, voice by a Black man and large glans-like helmet weren't dead giveaways.
This is why Vader was frightening - because his mere appearance caused the White rebels to doubt their own sexual prowess compared to the master. That Vader turned out to be White under the mask was only an afterthought, not important. What was important was the imagery the Vader suit represented.
(Score: 2) by RedGreen on Monday December 12 2016, @02:11AM
Some people just have too much time on their hands...
"Cervantes definitely was prescient in describing a senile Don fighting against windmills." -- larryjoe on /.
(Score: 2) by Rivenaleem on Monday December 12 2016, @11:23AM
Awesome. I now have another use for the BBD card in Cards Against Humanity. Thanks a mil Ethanol-fueled.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @05:20PM
"I can't breathe in this thing!!" - Dark Helmet in Spaceballs
Thank you for reminding us of what a good film Spaceballs is, Eth!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @01:08AM
Right, because nobody has ever thought of stealthily inserting political commentary into a piece of fiction before. There certainly aren't a buttload of examples of writers doing just that [tvtropes.org].
(Score: 2) by tisI on Monday December 12 2016, @02:54AM
Fantasy can be scary too.
Perhaps those Trump supporters should begin by filing an injury report: http://www.photokami.com/Hurtfeelings.pdf [photokami.com]
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself."
(Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:10PM
But now... Meesa skip it anyway. "Time to abandon ship" :p.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:13PM
Hollyweird has been painting conservatives and republicans as stupid and racist for many years now. Many decades, I should say. But, conservatives and republicans keep handing over their money to be entertained - and brainwashed at the same time. Hollyweird has been painting men in general as stupid, for even longer. But, men keep handing over their hard earned money, not even noticing how stupid they look.
Stop feeding the social engineers. Just stop. Everything from Hollyweird is BIG INDUSTRY. We bitch and moan about the big corporations running America, but, we continue to fund them.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
I said what I said. - Sophie Cunningham
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:40PM
White people: The most oppressed group in all of history. Poor things.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:06AM
You win our dull tool award for the day. "Conservative" and "republican" are not synonymous with "white". With your award, we will give you a whetstone, with which you can try to sharpen yourself up.
I said what I said. - Sophie Cunningham
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @02:20AM
Looks like he was sharp enough to cut you so bad you couldn't help but react...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Thexalon on Monday December 12 2016, @03:37AM
The Republicans, like the Democrats, have some non-white people. And in both parties, much of that racial diversity is more for show than anything else.
But the Republicans just nominated somebody with a history of racist actions in his businesses (e.g. denying rental applications to black people, for being black), who after his election hired an open white supremacist to be his chief advisor. So to say that the Republicans aren't a party that supports white people over non-white people is also not true.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:50PM
Ran across the first bit of Trump porn today. Some girl in a flag costume being gang banged by guys in Trump masks.
After a while, you just quit searching for bias and have it slammed in your face.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:48PM
> Hollyweird has been painting conservatives and republicans as stupid and racist for many years now.
Wah, wah, wah.
Name one example.
The fact is that hollywood constantly parodies liberals. That's because writers tend to write what they know and being full of liberals hollywood knows all about them. They stay away from conservatives precisely because they know how thin-skinned they are and so not having much experience with them, they try to avoid doing anything controversial for fear of it being taken too hard.
Look at practically every sitcom - they are all about liberal stereotypes. There are only a handful that are about conservatives - Last Man Standing and that new kevin james one are the only ones on broadcast tv that comes to mind. But even those shows spend a disproportionate amount of time making fun of the token liberals on the shows.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:05AM
Pick any Steven King book. Every single 'bad guy' in his books are wringing their hands 'muwhahaha' republicans. ALL. The good guys are just down trodden democrats. He puts that junk in all of his books. Even when it adds nothing to the narrative.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @01:48AM
> Every single 'bad guy' in his books are wringing their hands 'muwhahaha' republicans.
Flagg is a republican?
The creature from IT is a republican?
Christine is a republican?
Cujo is a republican?
Annie Wilkes is a republican?
Kurt Barlow is a republican?
More likely you have no idea what a republican is.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @02:55AM
At least half of those eat fucking children, so yeah, that's a pretty good representation of Republicans. :D
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @04:52AM
If the children didn't want eaten, they should have practiced abstinence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:12AM
Pennywise from IT is almost certainly a republican, yes.
(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Monday December 12 2016, @01:47AM
Name one example? Seriously? Start with the classic Archibald Bunker and go forward from there.
But of course I don't agree with GP here either: even All in the Family lampooned the "Meathead's" liberal political views on a frequent basis too. It's not a vast conspiracy to make fun of conservatives -- but they do get made fun of (and their views often distorted or stereotyped in the process) along with liberals and everybody else.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @02:01AM
> Start with the classic Archibald Bunker and go forward from there.
Come on, a show from 40 years ago?
Even so, Archie Bunker was portrayed as a complex person. He was a foil for a lot of sociopolitical commentary, but his character was not completely unsympathetic.
> It's not a vast conspiracy to make fun of conservatives -- but they do get made fun of (and their views often distorted or stereotyped in the process) along with liberals and everybody else.
That's key, everybody gets caricatured. But liberal characters outnumber 'conservative' characters like 10:1. I think the worst thing you can say is that because there just aren't many conservative characters on screen they rarely break out from the stereotypes. Breaking Bad did a good job with his brother-in-law and Mike though. But for the most part its not unlike how other minorities get stereotypical roles. Looks like runaway has more in common with muslims than he realized.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:57AM
> But, men keep handing over their hard earned money
Speak for yourself, haven't paid to attend a movie for at least the last 5 years. We wait until the DVD or BlueRay hits our local library and watch at home for free.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:32PM
Real men spend their money on guns, ammo, and power tools.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 12 2016, @07:08PM
You've been watching to much television. Real men don't need power tools, we power the tools ourselves.
I said what I said. - Sophie Cunningham
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @04:29PM
Hollyweird has been painting conservatives and republicans as stupid and racist for many years now. Many decades, I should say.
Yeah. You see, there's this thing where art holds up a mirror to reality. Since conservative and republican ideals are stupid ("I got mine you get yours big business rah rah rah,") and they lend easily to racism ("we take care of - conserve - us and 'them' can go fuck themselves and we allocate no resources for their conservation unless we're controlling them like slaves,") then it's pretty easy to see how and why the entertainment industry would be able to portray such. Because it's just reality. Don't feel too bad about it.
Oh, and if Hollywood is BIG INDUSTRY.... can you remind me again which of the political parties it is that is All For BIG INDUSTRY? Hint: It starts with an 'R' and ends in 'n'. So how dare you call yourself Republican and fail to support the Disney-Viacom-Bertelsmann complex!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday December 12 2016, @07:10PM
You've confused the Republicans with the Democrats again. It's the D's who want to keep those Negroes on the plantation. Promise them food stamps, and they'll vote D every time, because those evil R's won't give food away for free. Keep 'em dependent, and you control them, right?
I said what I said. - Sophie Cunningham
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @08:49PM
Ya, it'd be nice if we could develop systems that actually fix problems. The republicans throw all their might into stopping any sort of socialist programs except when they benefit corporations. The welfare trap is real, its set up to make getting a job difficult (get the job, lose the benefits, and job doesn't cover expenses). So maybe if we had real social safety nets that aren't hobbled by republican dbags then this conversation wouldn't even be happening. The British love their NHS but its being gutted by the UKs version of republicans. But socialism scares the bajeezus out of you good country folks, long live capitalist propagandaaaaaa!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday December 13 2016, @02:53AM
Yes, propaganda . . . . .
Which former president pushed for a major reduction in welfare benefits, and at the same time signed tougher sentencing into law? I'm very sure it was a Democrat. Wasn't Clinton a Democrat? Yeah - keep dem Negroes on the plantation where they belong.
Republicans, on the other hand, want to toss the black people OFF the damned plantation.
I said what I said. - Sophie Cunningham
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:20PM
... he also indicated that as president, he would not take the daily intelligence briefing that President Obama and his predecessors have received. Mr. Trump, who has received the briefing sparingly as president-elect, said that it was often repetitive and that he would take it “when I need it.” NYT [nytimes.com]
9/11 never forget. Unless it's boring, then meh skip it. Osama determined to... what now?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:40PM
Yea, because we really need the intelligence agencies wagging the dog. ((( )))
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:54PM
> ((( )))
WTF? Is whitespace now considered jewish by you alt-white fucktards?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:23AM
(((yes)))
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:40AM
The en space: ((( )))
The em space: ((( )))
The thin space: ((( )))
The non-breaking space: ((( )))
Not sure about those (((zero width non-joiners))), though. You might think I just typed a bunch of parens because I'm a (((((((((((Lisp)))) programmer))))))).
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:02AM
He basically said 'unless something is changing radically do not tell me the same thing every day'
For someone who is busy that is a time management technique. Basically only give me the differences not the whole summary every day.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:13PM
Good! Now we'll have basis for executing him for treason when something happens and he would have been told but doesn't want to pay attention.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday December 13 2016, @07:07AM
OK, right here, right now, I am copyrighting this: (ready?)
"If Newt Gingrich is the stupid person's idea of a smart person, obviously Donald Trump is Donald's idea of a smart person."
You read it here first!
Reference: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/12/donald-trump-doesnt-need-a-daily-intelligence-briefing-according-to-donald-trump/
(Score: 3, Informative) by Whoever on Monday December 12 2016, @12:37AM
The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in this one.
(Score: 2) by krishnoid on Monday December 12 2016, @01:43AM
He does a lot of speaking and presenting, much of which seems, well, less than fully uninformed. Might he have some kind of reading disability? Perhaps he has trouble absorbing or evaluating a lot of written material, and emphasizes interaction through personal communication instead?
Maybe someone more experienced in this area would be better able to identify any cues that would substantiate/<antonym> this.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by cubancigar11 on Monday December 12 2016, @10:57AM
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/12/dissecting-a-trump-presidency/ [theintercept.com]
It is definitely not a presidential thing to do, to ignore all the briefings, but it is not the worst thing either. Trump is reacting like a businessman and he isn't as stupid as liberals want everyone else to believe.
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday December 12 2016, @06:50PM
I'm not sure why not even reading the reports of a subordinate would be considered smart. It's one thing to question the reports of your subordinates and to not trust them (which I highly recommend doing as a businessman - many CEOs don't do that enough). It's another thing entirely to not even both reading or hearing what they have to say. Even if you don't think they're telling you the truth, you can pick up what they're trying to make you think, and make it possible to catch the liars.
I have a similar tack to diplomacy: Talking to our enemies via diplomatic channels isn't something to be feared. Even if there's no deal made, by going through the negotiations, you can at least figure out more about what they want. The only reason it would be a problem is if our negotiators are complete idiots, which they mostly aren't.
"Think of how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:37PM
I read he said, "Talk to me when you have new information." That makes sense to me. Why would I need to hear, "The sky is blue" every morning, when what I need to hear is, "There's a meteor in the blue sky streaking toward Earth?"
There will be plenty to criticize Trump on, but don't make things up. Hyperventilating every minute of every day about fictions will get old, fast.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:15PM
Why should I pay attention to the news at all? It's the same stuff every day. Except when it isn't.
You pay attention to the same old same old so you can recognize when it's NOT the same old same old.
This IMO is a near criminal abdication of responsibilities of the Office of the President.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday December 12 2016, @04:14PM
Considering the state of our "intelligence agencies" currently, this dismissive attitude is probably justified. I'm on record, years ago, saying the CIA's attempted coup against Bush II should have earned them a full on purge but Bush was too much of a pussy to do what should have been done. Intel agencies are always dangerous for the very reason they, by definition, operate in the gray areas and are only loosely governed by laws. At the first hint of them going rogue they should be swiftly put down and replaced with a new spy agency. Better still to just always have more than one so losing one won't unduly impact national security. We do appear to be obeying that maxim, we have a whole alphabet soup of loosely connected intelligence agencies. So we could lose CIA and not be blind.
If you are Dark Enlightened you understand that the 20th Century is best described as a series of Civil Wars by proxy between the State Dept and the Defense Dept. CIA has clearly joined the fight on the State side instead of being an intelligence gathering operation.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:52PM
You know, there's a lot of idiots that post here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:07AM
I do not see it that way.
We live in a world where information is cherry picked by our lying brains. http://blog.dilbert.com/post/154289405111/the-time-that-reality-forked-right-in-front-of-you#_=_ [dilbert.com]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:23AM
It's interesting he failed to see the 3rd reality. Neither Literal Hitler nor the Randian Bootstrapper who will make America great again, we elected a confidence man with a big ego and a great act.
I'm going to guess that in 4 years, when America still isn't great again and the swamp hasn't been drained, we'll hear that he just needs 4 more years to make America great again and drain the swamp.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by quintessence on Monday December 12 2016, @03:07AM
Yeah, not buying it.
For not being evolved to understand reality, we certainly do a pretty good job of it (the LHC being either being the best group delusion that ever was or a testament to mankind's continued search for truth beyond). Adams is essentially reducing everything to opinion, which does have a bit of truth, but he is overplaying his hand.
Mostly what I see is people putting forth shit "arguments", either to harmonize with their particular cult or reinforce their point of view. You see it on Facebook as much as here, with the most trite and obvious comments modded to death, and anything opposed banished from sight. It is memetic theory writ large.
And unless you are a part of that crowd, no one else is buying it.
Somewhat reasonable people will allow that even though they favor a particular side, there are good points made by the opposition; and in any case there is some cause for uncertainty.
Problem is no one is making good points anymore, and just talking past each other.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:45PM
That has become a lost art. Who does this anymore?
I propose a guide: unless you're being accused of being left wing or right wing in equal measure, you're not making good points. It's not that we strive for false equivalence, but that there's so very much infantile fabrication and wish fulfillment that is scripted as political persuasion anymore.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @02:10PM
I propose a guide: unless you're being accused of being left wing or right wing in equal measure, you're not making good points.
Disagree. At no point in time was someone like Buckley accused of being left wing, but he certainly argued the case for conservatism effectively. Similarly the politics for Vidal weren't under question, but had far more substance than what is seen with the left now.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Refugee from beyond on Sunday December 11 2016, @10:55PM
Star Wars is dead anyway. Whatever they are doing with its corpse does not really matter.
Instantly better soylentnews: replace background on article and comment titles with #973131.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:18PM
to that gangbang scene in Trump masks referenced in another thread above, no doubt :)
Seriously though, first Lucas teabagged all the loyal fans AND all the loyal writers who kept Star Wars going from the late 70s to the late 90s via their sublicensed works in the Star Wars universe. Then he shat all over them with the Prequels cameoing every character who already had a backstory (even though *NONE* of them appeared in the original leaked prequel draft from the 70s/80s, although mustafar (unnamed) did.), notably Boba Fett. Then as if Lucas' shattting on the history of Star Wars wasn't bad enough, Disney goes and continues doing it from the other end with future Star Wars Sequels, shitting all over 20 years of backstore(frontstory) that both writers and fans had pored over for years previous, which had been singularly responsible for Star Wars staying enough in the limelight for anyone to still care about its pop culture plot.
Needless to say I am still livid over it, but Star Wars hasn't gotten any of my money in 10ish years now, and got a fraction of that after the prequels came out (except for some cheap cheap lego sets available at Kay Bee before they went out of business.)
(Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:08AM
Star Wars I, IV, V, and VI were great. The rest of them are shitty money grabs. I'm not even going to bother to see VII or later, unless they're on TV and nothing else is on.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Celestial on Monday December 12 2016, @03:09AM
The Phantom Menace was great? What drugs are you on, and may I have some?
(Score: 2) by Webweasel on Monday December 12 2016, @11:26AM
I got to the pod racing scene and went "Right, its been BS so far now its just a big advert to sell toys"
And walked out of the cinema. Never watched starwars since.
Priyom.org Number stations, Russian Military radio. "You are a bad, bad man. Do you have any other virtues?"-Runaway1956
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday December 12 2016, @11:57AM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:50PM
OH, Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Star Wars III was the best.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Monday December 12 2016, @04:48PM
Then as if Lucas' shattting on the history of Star Wars wasn't bad enough
Preach!
And Lucas was the one who pointless politicized SW in Episode III. Only the Sith speak in absolutes? Reversing decades of canon to make a pointless dig at Bush's "With us or against us" line was fucking dumb. Or maybe his brain was just so addled he couldn't remember all the way back to Yoda's totally absolutist line "Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will." So Yoda was a secret Sith Lord, well that explains a lot.
But the big steaming duce he dropped on all of our childhood memories was the utterly unbelievable conversion of Anakin from a whiney emo warrior for good to mass murdering monster in the space between two scenes. From trying to kill the Emperor to slaughtering innocent children in his name? No, I don't believe the Emperor could use the Force to control him so totally, especially not if Anakin is supposed to be the most powerful Jedi to ever live. If a Sith Lord could so dominate him, how did normal Jedi ever win in a confrontation with the Sith?
Still haven't even bothered with the last SW film, once I realized it was just a requel of Ep4 with yet another Death Star. So now what do we get? A 'fresh' story about the Version 1.0 Death Star. Somebody is obsessed with big balls if ya ask me. Instead of sinking the entire productive output of whole worlds into making Death Stars, just make a few thousand more ordinary Star Destroyers, that can't be destroyed by a single whiny kid or plucky empowered gogrrl, and grind the galaxy beneath Sith jackboots already!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 13 2016, @08:23AM
jmorris, you complete imbecile!
Only the Sith speak in absolutes? Reversing decades of canon to make a pointless dig at Bush's "With us or against us" line was fucking dumb.
Um, remember that talk we had, where you asked me to point out if you ever started to talk like a
Sith, in absolutes, or in Parsel-tongue, like he who must not be named? Well, you are doing one of those right now. Thought you might want to know.
Still haven't even bothered with the last SW film,
Oh, Pulease!! Surely you meant to type "the last SJW film", right? How are we supposed to respect the alt-white, when they cannot even get the acronyms right>
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 12 2016, @01:48PM
What's that, you don't want to learn about the aspirations of a poor young Gungan in the swamps of Naboo, yearning to join some grand adventure among the stars? No interest in the formative years of General Grievous? How about the struggles of the oppressed Jawa, trying to make it in a human's world in the slums of Mos Eisley?
There are so many great stories to be told in the Star Wars universe, and Disney is here to tell them to you.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 4, Informative) by looorg on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:08PM
"the Empire in the film "is a white supremacist organization like the Trump administration and the diverse rebels are going to defeat them""
Will this apply to all the Star Wars movie or just the new shitty once? Cause it doesn’t make sense for the old good movies at all.
Star Wars came out in 1977. With that in mind I don’t think I have heard anything so silly about the movie in 39 years. It would require a pretty massive retcon to turn the empire into the space Reich. If the empire is like the Reich that would make the emperor, Palpatine, the Fuhrer? So the Rebels are then like the allied forces? Who is Darth Vader going to be in their weird little analogy? Not to mention all the other people – Who is Luke? Who is Leia? Who is Han?
I guess they also missed the part where the "diverse rebels" are pretty much just as white as the empire are. All white all the time. It's the intergalactic war of whiteness. The only people that are not white are the aliens, the droids and Lando. That isn’t very diverse. Also if the Empire are white supremacist how come they work with so many aliens?
Skip a few movies. The Space Reich then use a non-white person as the base for all their clone troopers? That isn’t very Aryan of them.
This all makes me thing about the scene in Chasing Amy when Hooper X goes on about how Luke is a nazi posterboy. I’m sure it’s on Youtube for the people that have not seen the movie. BLACK RAGE!
My only conclusion is that all these SJW-type people are f**king crazy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:39PM
Where else are you going to find masters of hokey old religions who complement the Reich? :)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:42AM
Dude, your own post is fucking crazy.
What sane person even cares so much to try to make the narrative fit or not fit the way you did?
The empire was clearly inspired by the nazis - calling them stormtroopers and filming all those scenes with them in formation was kinda a big hint. And then Lucas referring to imperial officers as nazis in the DVD commentary [starwars.com] more than gave it away
The fact that everything doesn't perfectly line up, well duh! if it were a one-to-one match that wouldn't leave much room for Lucas to tell his own story.
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday December 12 2016, @11:59AM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 3, Interesting) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Monday December 12 2016, @11:43AM
> My only conclusion is that all these SJW-type people are f**king crazy.
Check your facts - this particular storm in a teacup has been stirred up by Trump fans. Are you calling them SJW-types?
There have been numerous, deliberate parallels over the decades between the Empire and the Nazis, particularly in the extended universe. Anyone who missed the parallels in The Force Awakens[1] really doesn't know what they're looking for.
> The Space Reich then use a non-white person as the base for all their clone troopers? That isn’t very Aryan of them.
Interesting point. However I'd counter that the Empire is not supposed to be "Aryan" as that is a strictly earth-centric concept. They are Space Nazis in a more metaphorical way: Not so much bothered about differences between humans, as about human vs non-human. Also, note that in Earth history racist regimes have rarely had a problem sending the groups they persecute off to fight and die for the glory of the master race, wherever they can be compelled or persuaded to do so.
I agree though that the original trilogy was very very pasty white on both sides of the page, and the prequels only a tiny bit more diverse. Can't really speak for Rogue One as I haven't seen much about it yet, but I very much doubt that a big money-factory like Disney would spend time and cash re-writing a film that's already well into production just to make some political point. Consider that this film has taken YEARS to make, and Trump was not widely considered a serious contender for President (and therefore definitely not worthy of derailing a major motion picture) until somewhen this spring / summer. I'd go so far as to say that much of the left (who are the ones ostensibly behind this alleged conspiracy) had him written off a joke candidate until early November. Anyway, I doubt there was much opportunity to make major changes to Rogue One as late as summer 2016. Tweak the special effects or trim a few seconds off a scene maybe, but way too late to change the script, film new material or insert new scenes.
So basically, yeah - a handful of whiny, thin-skinned alt-right types are looking for something to feel wounded about. After all, now they have their man in the Whitehouse, they can hardly claim to be a beleaguered minority any more, can they? It does make one wonder whether the movement will survive the transition to a majority government, since the persecution complex is such a defining part of its character.
[1] Not strictly on-topic here, I acknowledge.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:15PM
I don't usually go to the cinema, but I'll make a point of watching this one at least three times.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @12:30AM
Giving lots of money to giant trillionaire corporations will really show those racists who's boss.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Monday December 12 2016, @08:22AM
It's worth it if it winds up the fascists :-)
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 3, Insightful) by tisI on Monday December 12 2016, @02:58AM
I was also on that same page somewhat.
Shorter lines and better seats in Imax.
It's a win win
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself."
(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Sunday December 11 2016, @11:47PM
the false narrative... that Trump is a racist
He acts like a horse's butt to Mexicans. Let's all be sure we're really precise and call him a horse's butt since Mexican isn't a race.
ⓋⒶ☮✝🕊 Secession is the right of all sentient beings
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday December 12 2016, @12:06PM
He is very nice to the first group, temporarily might be nice to the second, and is a complete shit to the third group. He doesn't care what ethnicity people in the last group are: he doesn't care about them at all.
sudo mod me up
(Score: 3, Touché) by zeigerpuppy on Monday December 12 2016, @12:58AM
How appropriate that a Hollywood president should see his greatest challenge as fiction. It's falsehoods all the way down.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by meustrus on Monday December 12 2016, @01:01AM
Look, Trump got where he is now by being completely authentic about his racism. Let's be real. We all know it's true. The only hair to split is whether you the Trump voter are one of the people who finally decided to participate in the democratic process because someone finally represents your own racism, or one of the people who tried really hard to ignore it. There are plenty of reasons to ignore it: the economy stinks for the working class, America spends way too much money acting as free police for the rest of the world, and more than anything we're all tired of the political elites running everything from their ivory tower. But he also campaigned on some pretty fanciful statements against hispanics and muslims, even going so far as to disparage the parents of a muslim who died protecting our freedoms.
You voted for this guy anyway. Quit being politically correct chickenshits about it and own your vote.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @01:49AM
Whats fanciful about deporting people who are working here illegally and taking a job from the lawful residents? Whats fanciful about not allowing in people who we are not able to vet? Whats fanciful about building a wall to help slow down the circumvention of our largest security threat as a nation (its not Muslims, its our southern neighbor)? Whats fanciful about deporting criminal aliens? Those things are 100% in accordance with our current laws (just not being enforced properly), and are also the wishes of the vast majority of residents here. We have the right to determine who comes here, and who stays here. Its called being a nation. Support for all of those items ranges from 58 to 81% nationally. The item with the lowest support is the wall, BTW. Probably because what its for hasn't been explained properly to the vast majority of residents, and the whole "we will make Mexico pay for it thing" hasn't been explained. Of course they will put up the money. You know what a trade embargo would do to Mexico when 80% of their economy is directly tied to the USA? 10 billion, 30 billion, even 100 billion dollars is *cheap* compared to what that would do to Mexico.
(Score: 4, Touché) by linuxrocks123 on Monday December 12 2016, @03:28AM
Probably because what its for hasn't been explained properly to the vast majority of residents, and the whole "we will make Mexico pay for it thing" hasn't been explained. Of course they will put up the money. You know what a trade embargo would do to Mexico when 80% of their economy is directly tied to the USA? 10 billion, 30 billion, even 100 billion dollars is *cheap* compared to what that would do to Mexico.
First off, about 30% of their economy is exports to the US, not 80%. Second, the US and Mexico are both in the WTO, so Mexico would sue us there if we set up an embargo, because the WTO is for preventing and penalizing shenanigans like that. We'd lose, of course, and then we can look forward to something like WTO-sanctioned pirate movie sites run by the Mexican government. That's what happened to use in a previous trade dispute, but it won't necessarily be that: Mexico gets to propose the form of the retaliation, and the court has to approve.
Third, Mexico is a democracy, and they have patriotism like any other country. It would be a point of national pride to defy the ogre who was elected by unfairly demonizing their citizenry and promising to coerce them into a humiliating financial contribution towards a giant, concrete middle finger aimed at them. Mexico isn't as rich as we are, but they're not starving, either. They're far from land-locked, and they can afford to ship their exports to Canada, South America, and wherever else they might need to to find buyers.
I'm sure you can imagine how loudly we'd collectively tell Mexico to fuck off if they elected some ultra-nationalist who promised to coerce us into paying reparations for the Mexican Cession and compensating victims of crime related to the illegal drug market we're fueling with our demand, especially because your type would be contributing the shrillest voices to the chorus. What makes you think other countries have little to no self-respect of their own?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @03:33AM
> What makes you think other countries have little to no self-respect of their own?
Because U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @08:25AM
Fucking Racists!
Whats fanciful about deporting people who are working here illegally and taking a job from the lawful residents?
Yeah, all those damn Brits that work for Fox News, we need to just send them back. No more limeys, I always say. Irish are almost as bad, but more interesting. And Scots, well, just let the Scottish in.
Whats fanciful about not allowing in people who we are not able to vet?
Yes, we need more people to practice veterinary practice on, so really we should not allow those ones.
Whats fanciful about building a wall to help slow down the circumcision of our largest security threat as a nation (its not Muslims, its our southern neighbor)?
What? I lost you there. I thought Muslins was circumcised, just like jews and methodists, and aboriginies. Oh My God on a stick! How will we be able to identify them?
Whats fanciful about deporting criminal aliens?
Yeah! American was founded, to a large extent, a large southern extent, by exiled deported criminals! Georgia used to be a penal colony! Explains a lot. Penal, not penis, you perv.
Those things are 100% in accordance with our current laws (just not being enforced properly), and are also the wishes of the vast majority of residents here.
That might be OK, except that the vast majority of people where you are (wait, are you in Poland? Or Serbia? This is all starting to sound strangely Slavic racist, which is ironic, since real white people do not consider Slavs to be white at all) are fucking racists, so their wishes are racist wishes, and that means no presents for them.
We have the right to determine who comes here, and who stays here. Its called being a nation.
Finally! An honest opinion I can agree with! Yes, America, Love it or give it back! I completely agree that the Primal Peoples of the North American Continent (and the South one, too) should get to decide who gets to stay. I think America needs to get rid of all the Jews, Germans (including Drumpf!), Armenians (including the Kardashians), Serbs, Croats, Lithuanians, Estonians, Poles, Czechs, Italians, Swiss, Baravians, Swabians, Frisians, Saxons, Celts, Rus, French, Danes, Swedes, Norsk, Porteguese, Spaniards, Morrocans, Egyptians, Afghans, Hindus, Ethanol_fueled, Welsh, Catalonians, Chinese, Malays, Fijians, Freedonians, Brits, Austrians, Maori, Antarticans, and Canadians. Illegals, all of them. But since you are likely one of these, no, you DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to decide this, you fucking racist.
(Score: 3, Informative) by LoRdTAW on Monday December 12 2016, @03:04PM
I'm sure you can't wait to get those cushy, high paying jobs back the Mexicans stole from you.
(Score: 2) by meustrus on Friday December 16 2016, @12:50AM
The policy proposals (mostly) aren't what's racist. What is fancifully racist is the depiction of Mexicans as "murderers and rapists" and the assertion that basically all Muslims are terrorists (and the even more troubling assertion that no non-Muslims are terrorists). Trump delivered rhetoric pulled straight out of anti-semitic global financial conspiracy theories. Trump knows who David Duke is and is not interested in spurning his endorsement. But perhaps most telling was his half-hearted attempt to garner African-American votes during the debates by decrying the incredibly violent, poverty-stricken plight of inner city blacks. Not only is that racist, it hearkened back to a Reagan era stereotype rather than anything particularly relevant now.
It's worth noting that "racism" shouldn't mean "all negative discrimination affecting minorities", but there are reasons to make that leap in specific situations. I think it's fair to say that everyone associates "illegal immigrants" with "Mexicans (actually all hispanics regardless of ethnicity)", racist or not, if only because we all agree everyone else is making the same association. Islamophobia takes on a racial element because of the likelihood that immigrant Muslims are of an Arabic ethnicity, and since Islamic terrorism comes from Arab Muslims it's really hard to pick that apart. But it's hard to pull examples one way or another about classic anti-African American racism because it didn't play a huge role in this election. Which is incredible considering what's going on in the news the last couple of years. But it did play a role; the David Duke endorsement probably got a lot of people out to the polls who might not have gone, as did the voter fraud claims that play into old stereotypes.
As for the policies themselves, disagreement on them has more to do with these two questions: what is the real impact of immigration? (we don't actually know whether the net effect is job loss or or job creation between unscrupulous businesses hiring illegals and immigrant entrepreneurs); and are the proposals the most effective way to accomplish their stated goal? (the wall certainly isn't) Some proposals however are based on an entirely false premise: America has the most stringent vetting process in the world and it doesn't need any super-broad "nobody gets in" rules; Obama has deported more criminal aliens than Bush did and has showed no sign of stopping.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @09:15AM
hispanic: a person of Spanish-speaking culture (BTW, not a race on the US census)
muslim: a person who accepts Muhommed (the one from the late 7th century) as the final prophet
race: an ill-defined category based on strongly correlated genetic traits that also correlate with geographic origin of recentish ancestors
Being hispanic or muslim is not genetic. It should be pretty damn obvious that one can hate hispanics and muslims to any degree, yet not be a racist. Even sending them off to death camps wouldn't make you a racist.
Also, note that it wasn't hispanics. It was illegal aliens, most of which happen to be hispanic. In case you were wondering, "illegal alien" is also not a race. An illegal alien is someone who is in the act of violating our laws by virtue of their unauthorized presence in our country. I should add that few are undocumented, because documents are sold on the streets. This of course is an additional crime which we call "identity theft".
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday December 12 2016, @01:36AM
From the summary:
From what I understand, a writer making a stupidly impulsive misstep [theatlantic.com] on Twitter without first consulting company lawyers, made the claim as some kind of righteous circle-jerkery of which the SJW-types are well associated.
The usual gang of idiots from the asshole of the internet then screenshotted the tweet and pretended to be angry parents and other wholesome folks, who would not buy Star Wars products and return the ones they had, bombarding Disney PR e-mail addresses because they didn't want their kids exposed to evil White Supremacy.
Personally I think both sides are right. The Empire is an allegory for Nazis, emulated right down to the camera techniques of Leslie Rifenstahl. But later, when everybody jumped on the Nazi PC bandwagon and only straight White men could be evil, the latest film sought to reflect that.
(Score: 2) by tisI on Monday December 12 2016, @02:46AM
Either more fake news headlines or foil hats and medication may be needed all around.
"Suppose you were an idiot...and suppose you were a member of Congress...but I repeat myself."
(Score: 5, Insightful) by halcyon1234 on Monday December 12 2016, @05:23PM
The election was Nov 9th. Rogue One comes out Dec 14th.
I'm sure it's TOTALLY TRUE that a writer (who is one cog in a massive, massive machine) decided lol let's reshoot. He managed to get time on the sets, rebook the actors, and the hundred+ person crew on a whim. Plus got the director in to realize THE VISION. They all acted out the reshoots, processed the raw footage, got it to the editing bays, re-edited the rough shots. Got the footage to the dozens of layers of CGI people needed to do touchups. Got ADR booked and looped the dialog. Got the international looping and subtitles done. Get the footage back to the editing bay, got the new footage re-inserted into the film. Re-rendered the footage. Re-rendered it again for international release. Resubmitted the film to the various rating agencies, including government-level ones in foreign markets. Got the new copy of the film through the entire distribution chain (which involves thousands of actors across hundreds of sites)-- because the film is already distributed and staged for release. OH and they'll also have to recall all the existing copies of the film.
A writer did that. On a whim. A month before a major Hollywood release that's 2+ years in the works. Yup.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 12 2016, @10:13PM
So what, next you'll tell me global warming wasn't made up by china! Your facts have nothing to do with reality!