BBC reports "German Greens float sex prescriptions for disabled":
A spokeswoman for the Green Party in Germany has said disabled and seriously ill people should be able to claim back public money if they pay for sex. They would have to prove a medical need and show that they could not pay to visit sex workers otherwise. Elisabeth Scharfenberg, an MP, told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper that she "could imagine" local authorities paying for "sexual assistance". Prostitution has been legal in Germany since 2002.
[...] In the Netherlands it is already possible to claim the cost of sexual services as a medical expense.
German source. Here's a related segment from Vice if you have 17m22s to spare (it's primarily about Sensual Solutions).
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @03:19PM
Meanwhile in America, sex work is illegal and publishers (Baxkpage) get arrested..
Land of the free and all that...
(Score: 3, Funny) by bob_super on Tuesday January 10 2017, @05:31PM
The Originalists should just admit that quite a few of the Founding Fathers were banging their slaves.
Maybe it's the idea of paying that is the problem...
(Score: 4, Interesting) by MostCynical on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:28PM
It is probably more about choice - they don't want women empowered, and payment suggests power and choice.
If there isn't force, or a power imbalance, there isn't the same titillation.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 10 2017, @09:56PM
Couldn't they overcome that by trying to look at it as a "jobs creation" program?
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(Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday January 11 2017, @12:20PM
Couldn't they overcome that by trying to look at it as a "jobs creation" program?
They are not really interested in just creating jobs. That is merely a hook for the masses that is claimed whenever an opportunity for wealth consolidation arises.
(Score: 3, Funny) by DannyB on Tuesday January 10 2017, @09:38PM
Be glad we don't have this in America.
The government paying for sex workers is just one more way for the government to be sure everyone gets f**ked.
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(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @03:36PM
Interestingly, in the German source, in the links to related stories there is one that says a new study shows for men above 57, sex increases the probability for heart attacks. [www.welt.de] [text also in German, obviously]
So maybe it's a clever way to reduce health costs: Let them reduce their life expectancy voluntarily. ;-)
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @03:44PM
It sounds too perilous.
(Score: 4, Funny) by mechanicjay on Tuesday January 10 2017, @05:13PM
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 11 2017, @08:09AM
That can probably be generalized to "for people out of shape, exercise increases the probability for heart attacks". But you want to exercise to GET in shape, because being in good shape lowers the risk, not just while exercising, but in general.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 11 2017, @01:18PM
No it can't because the risk was specifically for men; for women in that age, it was a net positive instead. I don't think old women are generally more fit than old men.
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Tuesday January 10 2017, @03:53PM
As a taxpayer, I would be pissed if the government was paying for other people to have sex. Clearly I feel my ugliness is a disability, although I am sure I would not qualify for the program.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @04:06PM
Since you are tax payer, you surely could also pay for a prostitute, so one of the given conditions would not be fulfilled.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @04:58PM
Since all this is about Europe, maybe the taxpayer part is just the paid sales tax, not income tax.
In most of Europe sales tax is about 20% up to 27% which in fact makes him a taxpayer paying more of their income as taxes than many others elsewhere with their income taxes.
(Score: 2) by Sulla on Wednesday January 11 2017, @03:39AM
In general I feel that federal taxes should be reserved to military (needs downsizing), temporary safety nets (really depends), and paying for good negotiators to keep us out of wars. I am probably missing a few things. At the state level there are a few more things, statewide roads and transportation, a few more safety nets maybe. At the city/county level the governmet can pay for anything the people vote for.
Further from the individual the level of government is, the less power they should have over the individuals daily life.
The social contract we exist in was invalid when they closed the frontier and there is no place for those who choose no society to escape. Parts of alaska, siberia, africa might be okay, but far from the frontier of old. Because of this less should be forced upon the individual.
At no point in my view on life do I see taxes going for people to get laid, thats just insane. I suppose paying the migrants in germany to visite prostitutes might lower the instinces of rape, but still absolutely billshit. Maybe we need the government to fund some camp followers in Seattle, Portland, and SF to keep the transients from causing problems.
We need a basic income so we can pay the lumpenprolitariate their tribute to leave the rest of those who want to contribute alone. I am including artists as people who want to contribute here. Of course those do not work and live off of basic only probably shouldn't be able to vote either. But then of course the game becomes reducing the number of those working to get more power at the ballot box.
This article really pissed me off. This bs "money grows on trees, taxes can fund anything" attitude.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Flamebait) by Snotnose on Tuesday January 10 2017, @04:49PM
You want pissed? I live in California and our wonderful government has decided to pay for a sex change operation. For a prisoner serving a life sentence.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot? First, taxpayers should not pay for this type of operation. Second, especially not for assholes serving a life sentence.
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Tuesday January 10 2017, @06:05PM
I guess it's this: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-inmate-sex-reassignment-20170106-story.html [latimes.com]
Woah! California is crazy. Female convicts get necklaces and nightgowns too??
(Score: 1) by AssCork on Tuesday January 10 2017, @11:00PM
Texas here, so let me just say "AH HA HA HA HA HA!!"
Life sentences, pfft - pansies.
Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 11 2017, @04:42AM
From a bumper sticker: "I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes one."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 11 2017, @10:02AM
Why not? Explain.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:29PM
if the government was paying for other people to have sex.
Isn't that basically every welfare benefit for little kids?
I mean sure, its not the kids fault and spending money on the kids trying to fix them is both the right thing to do and cheaper than fixing them when they're older, but fundamentally you're having the government coordinate one demographic group paying another demographic group to fuck and have the kids the first group can't afford because of high taxes. Which works pretty well until the first group is wiped out or refuses to pay. Then things get tense.
(Score: 2) by hamsterdan on Wednesday January 11 2017, @07:14PM
I guess it's only fair since governments already have sex with citizens, maybe just not the way we like it :)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @04:44PM
...are usually outsourced to the lowest bidder.
Just something to think about before you get excited about this idea.
(Score: 3, Touché) by VLM on Tuesday January 10 2017, @06:48PM
Also the government gravy train attracts some fat and ugly cat ladies in general, so people are thinking it'll be $500/night pr0n star look alike hotties but being a government program the .gov will be charged a mere $1250/hr and the lady is going to literally be former postal service desk clerks, DMV clerks, etc. I mean sure technically there will be a hole there, somewhere, in that 600 pounds of 60 year old government employee cat lady. Also being .gov they'll be unfireable even if they kick you in the balls (or even if you want that and they won't, whatever, the point is customer service is likely to be lacking). Also with diversity training you can request a 25 year old athletic woman all you want, but when your number comes up you're getting a 50 year old fat dude instead.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 10 2017, @09:35PM
Will the sex worker file insurance claims? If yes, then the 'patient' receiving services only pays the co-pay and therefore doesn't care if the sex worker is the lowest bidder.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @06:57PM
pun intended
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:10PM
They would have to prove a medical need
Is there any conceivable (hmm, punny) medical problem for which the only treatment is sex? I have a hard time imagining such a thing that couldn't just be solved by jerking off even if you did find one.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 1) by anotherblackhat on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:37PM
I can conceive of a condition that could only be treated with hormones released by the opposite sex during sex.
Ever thought "That politician/worker/boss really needs to get laid"?
If so, I bet you didn't think masturbation would do.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:07PM
My guess would be something lost in translation implying something like arms blown off in the military or industrial accident. That would be a pretty good excuse.
I could see it being incredibly motivational for physical therapy. I hurt my back like a decade ago and had to do this and that, which was about as exciting as watching paint dry, although it did work, but I'm sure there's some way it could have been spiced up a bit. Now that I think about it, writing a book or blog or video shoot on the topic of curing your bad back via lots and lots of specific position sex is the kind of thing that might sell pretty well, maybe a million dollar idea...
There are some muscle/joint problems that can be treated via massage and there are obvious uncreative yet very motivational ways to encourage attending all sessions, show up on time for the appointment and they'll be time at the end for optional happiness, or don't show up on time and go home not so happy.
There are mental issues and half the population being female and Germany being overrun and getting raped to death, there are more young women every day trying to work thru PTSD and phobias so somewhere rather late in the process is probably some sort of re familiarization WRT it being kinda fun when there isn't a knife being held to the throat. And it is a problem for young boys too. As long as they don't hurt the feelings of the invaders I guess it'll be OK to psychologically treat the victims. Germans are pretty screwed up people to intentionally do stuff like that to their own kids, knowing whats inevitable result of an invasion (mass rapes). But, theres money to be made off the recovery process, so...
In the "present but not really participating" department I would imagine couples where both are in wheelchairs or the one who isn't in a wheelchair is a bit frail or uncreative requiring some specialized physical trainer assistance just to ensure nobody falls on the floor or whatever. A professional in the field would likely have considerable experience with what goes where in what positions still remain possible. That is a job that probably takes some time to get used to. If you had legs they'd go there, but I watched an episode of mythbusters last night and I think we'll be OK with this pulley over there and RC car servo here and you can ignore the TNT thats just a prop because the mythbusters always blow shit up every episode and here's a pix of Kari for motivation and I see the lucky lady is already strapped to the trampoline now let me get the V8 engine started so we can get this show on the road....
(Score: 2, Funny) by linuxrocks123 on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:50PM
There should be a (-1, Completely Disconnected from Reality) mod...
(Score: 1) by AssCork on Tuesday January 10 2017, @11:05PM
> slow clap <
You, sir. Deserve more drugs.
Never before have I seen someone riding the snake quite this hard on a Tuesday before.
Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 10 2017, @09:46PM
So are you saying it would save taxpayer dollars to buy people pr0n instead?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 11 2017, @08:15AM
This is only for handicapped people.
Just imagine having all the free porn you can get (aka "the internet"), but no arms...
(Score: 2) by Unixnut on Wednesday January 11 2017, @10:54PM
Is there any conceivable (hmm, punny) medical problem for which the only treatment is sex? I have a hard time imagining such a thing that couldn't just be solved by jerking off even if you did find one.
Depression? Physocological issues? Pathological shyness? self esteem issues? Anything that a jolt of endorphin's would help with?
I am struggling too, but I guess giving people sex is better than popping them full of brain altering pill (and probably cheaper overall)
(Score: 1) by anotherblackhat on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:25PM
Prostitution has been legal in Germany since 2002
Technically true I suppose.
Some form of prostitution has always been legal in Germany.
Through it's history, the government has tried to regulate, tax, or otherwise interfere with prostitution, but has generally been unsuccessful, with the prostitutes taking a "fuck you" attitude.
In 2002 they removed some prohibitions on advertising, and otherwise promoting prostitution, in the vain hope it would changes things.
It didn't.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:32PM
Well of course they did. Isn't that their job?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:50PM
80 years ago, Germans were getting ready to throw their disabled in the oven. Now the pendulum swings the other way.
(Score: 2) by art guerrilla on Wednesday January 11 2017, @04:27AM
they are throwing the oven in the disabled ? ? ?
(Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday January 10 2017, @07:57PM
As I understand it when I read it (both the BBC and the Welt) is that what is suggested in some form of tax deductible. So you'll have to keep up with your prostitutes on your own for a year before you can deduct their services on your next tax form. I'm sure there might be a limit of how much and how often etc. I'm sure some group of people over at the BZSt (the federal central tax office) will have a jolly good time as they investigate and probe the issue for a few years. I guess the prostitutes will have to start offering receipt then for services rendered so you can later deduct them on your tax form. One does wonder how graphic and detailed that would have to be. The tax people should be happy about that - both the sex and the paper work.
One do wonder how one would qualify for this "sexual assistance". Is a doctors note going to be enough? Then I suspect they'll be handing these out like they hand out those medical marijuana cards. Oh you feel a bit bad (or some other vague and general symptom)? Here have card. A good BJ and some anal will cure all that ails you.
That said as mentioned in the articles it is not really anything new - the dutch have been doing this for decades. Not quite sure tho if it's a deductible or it's subsidized in some other way shape or form.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:37PM
Then I suspect they'll be handing these out like they hand out those medical marijuana cards.
I'm thinking the after market gag gift business will be profitable, "says right here honey, doctors signature and everything" "Well, I guess if its medically necessary, but did your doctor ever think how difficult it is to schedule me and my best friend at the same time, can't he just give you a pill or something?"
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:05PM
And BrExit, you will be getting Ms. Le Pen, and I shudder to imagine what the backlash will deliver as a replacement for Mad Merkel. Germans can be pretty ruthlessly efficient when they set their mind to it and they look ready to do just that, only question is whether it happens in the coming elections or if the powers that Be still have enough juice left to push it off one more.
It always follow the same pattern. Decriminalize some destructive behaviour, then legalize it and then declare it a right and subsidize it. We see it with weed here in the U.S. where we all know the final step is coming, once they get the Feds to drop the ban they will be using Medicaid to pay for it because stoners will be discovered to have a "Right" to the stuff. The trannies went straight to a right to have the government pay for their mental problems. This is pure r selection at work, free resources for all. Including the utter obliviousness to the fact the world is quickly changing to resource shortage and K selection. The kaboom is going to be both awful and beautiful.
(Score: 2) by linuxrocks123 on Tuesday January 10 2017, @08:58PM
The sun's not burning out anytime soon: there's no resource shortage. And only a crank uses r/K selection to analyze human politics.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 10 2017, @10:07PM
Stoners don't have any more rights than anyone else. Including a right to their medication.
10. The medication is needed because they are unable to work.
20. They are unable to work because they are stoned.
30. They are stoned because they took their medication.
40. GOTO 10
I would expect that compassionate conservatism wouldn't have a problem with this.
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday January 10 2017, @11:30PM
step one, this law gets passed.
step two, refugees get the disabled status, because they are miles away from their women, whom they left in syria (somebody had to mind the house)
step three, refugees require a slight modification of the terms because those 18+ females are too old.
Remember, you heard it first from bot's AI.
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(Score: 2) by Anne Nonymous on Wednesday January 11 2017, @12:56AM
Having smelled a few members of the Green Party, allow me to be the first to say "Nein danke".