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posted by janrinok on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the hiding-in-plain-view dept.

http://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_shape_shifting_dinosaurs/transcript?language=en - Video Script / Subtitles

By about 1970, some scientists were sitting around and they thought, "What in the world -- Look at these dinosaurs, they're all big. Where are all the little ones?"

And it comes down to a couple of things. First off, scientists have egos, and scientists like to name dinosaurs. They like to name anything. Everybody likes to have their own animal that they named.

9:50
Nobody noticed the gnarly stuff sort of looked alike. But they did look at these three and they said, "These are three different dinosaurs, and Dracorex is probably the most primitive of them. And the other one is more primitive than the other." It's unclear to me how they actually sorted these three of them out. But if you line them up, if you just take those three skulls and just line them up, they line up like this. Dracorex is the littlest one, Stygimoloch is the middle-size one, Pachycephalosaurus is the largest one. And one would think, that should give me a clue.

10:39
So if we cut open Dracorex -- I cut open our Dracorex -- and look, it was spongy inside, really spongy inside. I mean, it is a juvenile and it's growing really fast. So it is going to get bigger. If you cut open Stygimoloch, it is doing the same thing. The dome, that little dome, is growing really fast. It's inflating very fast. What's interesting is the spike on the back of the Dracorex was growing very fast as well. The spikes on the back of the Stygimoloch are actually resorbing, which means they're getting smaller as that dome is getting bigger. And if we look at Pachycephalosaurus, Pachycephalosaurus has a solid dome and its little bumps on the back of its head were also resorbing.

11:28
So just with these three dinosaurs, as a scientist, we can easily hypothesize that it is just a growth series of the same animal. Which of course means that Stygimoloch and Dracorex are extinct.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:33PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:33PM (#452951)

    Baby dinosaurs taste like Popeye's chicken.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:47PM (#452962)

      Out of Africa theory, proven! Niggers were the first homos.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:42PM (#452974)

      Niggered by Trolls.

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by jimshatt on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:37PM

    by jimshatt (978) on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:37PM (#452952) Journal
    I choose you, Dracorex! Ow yea, he evolved to a Stygimoloch! Use your fire breath attack!
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:47PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:47PM (#452961)

      Kabutops, go! Surf attack!

    • (Score: 2) by Username on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:11PM

      by Username (4557) on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:11PM (#452964)

      If a chicken can have a hatching and a chick, I don’t see why Pach* cannot have a Drac* or Styg*.

  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:37PM

    by looorg (578) on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:37PM (#452953)

    Noah lured them into his Ark with candy. Never to be seen again ...

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:38PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:38PM (#452954)

    Yes, the names "Stygimoloch" and "Dracorex" may be no more. But Pachycephalosaurus is extinct as well.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:12PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:12PM (#453000)

      It's all a coverup to settle the secret trademark lawsuit that the real Molochs and Dracorex just filed from their secret moon and underground bases (respectively).

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by richtopia on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:55PM

    by richtopia (3160) on Thursday January 12 2017, @03:55PM (#452963) Homepage Journal

    I had not seen this talk before, but mention the following TED talk by Jack whenever I can. It is discussing enabling suppressed dinosaur genes on a chicken:

    https://www.ted.com/talks/jack_horner_building_a_dinosaur_from_a_chicken [ted.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:23PM (#452967)

      Tastes like chicken.

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:34PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:34PM (#452971)

        Dats som gud chiken nigga.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @08:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @08:42PM (#453055)

      I'm sorry, but I had a hard time reading this. It felt like it was intended for less than 8th grade readership.

      No one really thinks like this: '"By about 1970, some scientists were sitting around and they thought, "What in the world -- Look at these dinosaurs, they're all big. Where are all the little ones?"' I'm sure no scientist wondered where the fossilized babies were, and then thought to cut open fossils they had to find the hidden babies inside or whatever they came up with as a reasonable solution.

      It's like its radiolab or something in text. I guess I have a hard time with taking TED talks seriously, they all just come across as the means of which people that can afford to take time off of work go to a place to listen to feel good speeches and pat themselves on the back before coming back to the office and telling us all to start with Why, even if they can't remember specifically what for or how.

      • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Thursday January 12 2017, @09:36PM

        by Immerman (3985) on Thursday January 12 2017, @09:36PM (#453076)

        > I'm sure no scientist wondered where the fossilized babies were, and then thought to cut open fossils they had to find the hidden babies inside or whatever they came up with as a reasonable solution.

        Well, there's a few steps missing in the summary, almost as though they were trying to hit the high points of a 15 minute video that is itself heavily summarized in only a couple paragraphs. Key steps left out:

          - hey, we know some species change skeletal structure dramatically as they change(modern examples listed), and these dinosaur skeletons look like they might be different stages in development of the same species

          - How could we tell? Well, everyone knows growing bone looks different than mature bone under a microscope, lets take a look at our fossils!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:30PM (#452970)

    Coke and Pepsi are the same thing! according to future archaeologists.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:51PM (#452976)

      What do you wanna drink? Wine, orange juice, Whiskey, milk, Fanta, Cognac or X Cola?

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by tibman on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:17PM

        by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:17PM (#453002)

        I'm a sophisticated historian and member the Old Earth Society. Give me "the usual", mix them all up and serve over frozen co2.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:47PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Thursday January 12 2017, @04:47PM (#452975) Journal

    Maybe the dingosaurus ate yo' babbies.

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  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:04PM

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 12 2017, @06:04PM (#452994) Journal

    Maybe these are not a growth series, but distinct animals.

    The reason we find only fossils of adult animals is because those left behind to form fossils were unfit for space travel prior to the extinction event.

    Can they disprove this hypothesis? I think I need to write a letter. Who is Trump's science advisor again?

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    People today are educated enough to repeat what they are taught but not to question what they are taught.
    • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday January 12 2017, @10:03PM

      by MostCynical (2589) on Thursday January 12 2017, @10:03PM (#453085) Journal

      Letter? Best not to assume too high a reading comprehension level. Use crayon.

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      "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @01:19AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @01:19AM (#453139)

        Also, don't write too much. 140 characters, tops.

        ... wait, damn, how do you write tweets in crayon???

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @09:55AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 13 2017, @09:55AM (#453227)

        or piss

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @08:45PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 12 2017, @08:45PM (#453057)

    The babies, almost all of them, either grew into adults or grew into the belly of carnivores. Which doesn't mean the author's hypothesis isn't true, either....

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ese002 on Friday January 13 2017, @07:28AM

      by ese002 (5306) on Friday January 13 2017, @07:28AM (#453201)

      The babies, almost all of them, either grew into adults or grew into the belly of carnivores

      But that's true of the adults too. Dying of old age is rare. Any weakness is exploited by carnivores for an easier meal. Even if they do manage to die of "natural" causes, scavengers make a meal out of them.

      Fossilization only happens under the very rare conditions where the animal or plant dies and is quickly covered in such a way that it does not get eaten or even decompose properly. Mud slides and volcanic eruptions are good for this. I don't see a reason why there would be an sort of age bias for those kinds of deaths.