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posted by martyb on Sunday January 15 2017, @03:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the charging-new-owners dept.

The free ride is over:

For the past few years, anyone who owned a Tesla could charge it up at one of the company’s Supercharging stations free of charge.

But as we’ve known for a few months now, this all-you-can-eat setup is being phased out. While existing owners will still get to charge up for free, anyone who orders a Tesla after January 15th would get around 1,000 miles worth of charging credit each year then pay for anything beyond that.

But how much would they pay, exactly?

Turns out there’s not any single answer to that question — due to variations in regulations around the world, the pricing varies a bit depending on where you are.

Tesla started outlining how it works in a blog post tonight:

  • In most of the world, Tesla owners will pay per kWh — that is, you’ll be charged for the actual amount of electricity you receive.
  • In select places, however, Tesla will be required (by local regulations) to charge per-minute at the charging station. It’s a bit less accurate, but Tesla says they [are] going to work with regulators in these regions; it’s also a good bit more complicated, with two different charging tiers based on how charged your battery is or whether or not yours is the only Tesla at the charging station.
  • In North America, you’ll pay the same price to charge up throughout any given state or province.
  • Outside of North America, pricing is set on a country-by-country basis.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @03:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @03:52PM (#454100)

    How much to take Musky's massive cock up my ass?

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @04:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @04:04PM (#454103)

    My supercharged cock is staring directly at your asshole.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @04:19PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @04:19PM (#454109)

      And still not gay enough to stick it in, ya poser queer.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @06:06PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 15 2017, @06:06PM (#454123)

      That's refreshingly honest of you Aristarchus.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by ledow on Sunday January 15 2017, @05:11PM

    by ledow (5567) on Sunday January 15 2017, @05:11PM (#454118) Homepage

    And as the consumer's subsidies start to trickle away, these things are still getting no more attractive.

    • (Score: 2, Touché) by Type44Q on Sunday January 15 2017, @08:43PM

      by Type44Q (4347) on Sunday January 15 2017, @08:43PM (#454162)

      these things are still getting no more attractive.

      Each increase in range proves you wrong.

      • (Score: 1) by tftp on Monday January 16 2017, @05:59AM

        by tftp (806) on Monday January 16 2017, @05:59AM (#454273) Homepage

        That is true. However a vehicle should cost not so much, even if the fuel costs a bit more. This is because a vehicle cannot be an investment - it can be easily damaged. It is also a threshold; if a car costs $N the person who cannot afford $N cannot drive less - he does not drive at all. You have to have $N to start driving, even if you only need to drive 1 mile per year. EVs with good range cost a lot. Cheap EVs (like Leaf) have bad range, unless you have a very specific use pattern for them, like home - work - home in a city, and it is a second car in the family.

        I think we will get to that model in the future with automated taxicabs. They cost a bit more than the fuel per mile, but you don't need to buy and insure and house and maintain and drive them. Some people may still need personal vehicles for reasons of convenience - say, they need the car to be instantly available, and they live 100 miles from the nearest city. But for most people in cities a personal car would be not necessary. Today taxicabs cost far more than a personal car, unless you need transportation maybe only a dozen times per year.

    • (Score: 1) by jrmcferren on Sunday January 15 2017, @11:12PM

      by jrmcferren (5500) on Sunday January 15 2017, @11:12PM (#454192) Homepage

      Not true, an electric motor is much more efficient than one powered by gasoline or diesel fuel. While the electricity is more expensive per unit, the actual difference in cost still favors electricity. This may very well change, if road tax is applied to electricity used for electric vehicle charging.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Sunday January 15 2017, @11:29PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday January 15 2017, @11:29PM (#454198) Journal

      I can't afford the purchase price. But, the vehicles are growing more attractive. As Type44q points out, the range is getting to be very reasonable. I stated a long time ago that I couldn't even consider an electric car until the range was over 200 miles. Now, the range is almost double my minimum. If/when they ever go into mass production, like ICE vehicles today, the purhcase price should come down, and a whole lot of us will be buying them.

      There is some kind of informal "goal" of most auto manufacturers, that a car should get ~360 miles per tank. It's not a hard and fast standard, but most cars get close to that. A more fuel efficient vehicle gets a smaller gas tank, a less efficient vehicle gets a larger tank.

      Related article - http://solarchargeddriving.com/2011/05/13/whats-your-gasoline-cars-range/ [solarchargeddriving.com]

      I drive a Ford Taurus, right now, with an automatic, and the 200 hp engine. The 16 gallon tank gives me a driving range of 370 to 390 miles. I set the odometer each time I fill, so I know how far I've gone.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @01:42AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @01:42AM (#454220)

        I would guess they did some maths about how much the average person drives, how long the gas can sit in the tank before it goes gummy, the cost of hauling around surplus fuel, and the fuel economy of the car to get the tank size.
        Somebody came up with the 360 mile minimum figure, and ever since they all aim at it. Now it's been around so long everyone considers it reasonable to have to fill up that often.
        Probably slight deviations for car types, I had a smallish SUV that would get over 500 on the road. (but much less when seriously off-road.) (16 gallon tank, 2.4 litre engine)

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Monday January 16 2017, @06:34PM

          by bob_super (1357) on Monday January 16 2017, @06:34PM (#454451)

          That's US logic, though.
          European cars are often capable of 500 or 600 miles (a few get even higher), despite the Europeans driving a lot less on average.
          That tank of gas costs you an arm and a leg (80-120 Euros for a sedan), and often requires a small detour because of the lower station density, but it does last a whole lot longer.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @12:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 16 2017, @12:20AM (#454204)

    Perhaps they could bundle 1-yr of Microsoft Office subscriotion and/or cash back and/or lease2own and/or mail-in rebate and/or loyalty card.

    That'll be 1 less, I mean 10 more pieces of shit to worry about.

  • (Score: 2) by JeanCroix on Monday January 16 2017, @09:47PM

    by JeanCroix (573) on Monday January 16 2017, @09:47PM (#454542)
    Before reading TFA, my first thought was to wonder what good a supercharger would do on an electric car. Maybe they should have come up with a different term, given that this one is already in use [wikipedia.org] in the automotive field...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 19 2017, @08:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 19 2017, @08:14PM (#456197)

      As it wasn't in use in regards to electric cars, there isn't really any overlap, thus the confusion is minimal.