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on Friday January 20 2017, @08:54PM
from the uncle-larry-won't-even-feel-it dept.
from the uncle-larry-won't-even-feel-it dept.
Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956
The U.S. Labor Department has sued Oracle America Inc, alleging that the technology company systematically paid its white, male employees more than other workers and unlawfully favored Asian applicants in its recruiting and hiring efforts.
The department in a complaint filed with an administrative judge in Washington said the company was prohibited from engaging in racial discrimination given the hundreds of millions of dollars it receives as a contractor with the federal government.
Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oracle-usa-labor-idUSKBN1522O6
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U.S. Sues Oracle, Alleges Salary and Hiring Discrimination
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(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @08:58PM
That is all that matters.
Anyway, Oracle found that white males were paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
Damned if you do; damned if you don't.
Fuck ALL of you—right up your tight little asses.
(Score: 3, Touché) by LoRdTAW on Friday January 20 2017, @09:05PM
From the article:
Let me guess, H1B's.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @09:05PM
That is all that matters.
Anyway, Oracle found that white males were paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
Damned if you do; damned if you don't.
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Fuck ALL of you—right up your tight little asses.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @09:22PM
That is all that matters.
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Basically, Oracle found that white males were paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
So, I guess you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
(Guess what? You're not worth as much; you're just not.)
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday January 20 2017, @09:24PM
Isn't it in Oracle's corporate values or motto or something to be evil?
Oh, yeah! Because who else would have even conceived of thinking that APIs could be copyright eligible material.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @09:28PM
After all, Oracle is yet another tech company founded and run by a Jew; need one say more?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @05:55PM
After all, Oracle is yet another tech company founded and run by a Jew; need one say more?
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @09:32PM
That is all that matters that matters
Why would skin color, or genitalia make a difference?!
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Basically, Oracle found that white males were paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
So, I guess you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @09:46PM
That is all that matters.
Why would skin color or genitalia make a difference?!
Basically, Oracle found that white males are paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
So, I guess you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday January 20 2017, @10:20PM
I think it's safe to assume this lawsuit will be dropped in the next day or two.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday January 20 2017, @11:50PM
Dunno, could be. It's amazing the number of "righteous" actions that happen in the last weeks of being in office...especially ones that can easily be reverted.
Javascript is what you use to allow unknown third parties to run software you have no idea about on your computer.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Pino P on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:02AM
I wouldn't be so sure. President Trump ran on a platform of taking jobs from guest workers and undocumented persons and giving them to unemployed Americans.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:25PM
Why is it okay to discriminate to only hire minorities but not to not hire them? Why can universities have invisible quotas they don't have that keep white kids from getting in, but they can't do it to minorities.
#onlywhitesareracist
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Friday January 20 2017, @10:29PM
Yes it is a less than perfect solution to a problem but don't confuse affirmative action stuff with racism. Perhaps if the people who don't like such programs would be more open to helping out the less fortunate communities then we could do away with such stupid programs that give weight to race. Maybe it will not be as needed nowadays as the amount of latent racism (oooh a mexican name, I'll subconsciously rank that lower) in university officials has decreased. Hopefully.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:03AM
Affirmative action IS RACISM. It is POLITICALLY CORRECT RACISM. Listen to yourself - "If white people helped out non-white people more, then such programs wouldn't be necessary."
Let me ask you, how many minority groups ever worry about OTHER minority groups?
If I may paraphrase you again, "If white people were actually superior to other people, then it wouldn't be necessary to give special consideration to non-white people."
And, I insist that white people aren't any different than non-white people. Everyone you know does the same thing. Take care of numero uno first, then close family, then more distant family, then the neighborhood, so on up the chain. I've mentioned tribalism in several contexts. Mankind is tribal. You want your tribe to succeed, I want my tribe to succeed, everyone on earth wants his own tribe to succeed. That's how it is around the world, although it is taken to extremes in some parts of the world.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:00AM
I specifically said "less fortunate communities" because there have been and still are actual attempts to harm communities that various people in power don't like. Affirmative action is a crappy solution, but it isn't quite on par with actual racism. There has been systemic racism for hundreds of years and it literally affects the lives of minorities as so many people have been conditioned to fear minorities or be prejudiced against them. What do you say to that? Too bad? Thank god your white and can more easily get a job? Unless you were crusading for equal rights and non-discrimination policies then get off your high horse, you're just a conservative that likes to imagine everyone is free and equal and its "their" fault for not succeeding.
You may not paraphrase me, your understanding of my words is horrendously skewed. I never said anything about white people being superior so fuck right off with that shit, my comment was directed at all the people who actively try and subvert social welfare programs. The poverty trap is real and it doesn't only affect minorities. If such people would stop undermining everything, see the ACA for a perfect recent example along with all the tax cuts for the wealthy, then affirmative action would not be needed and we wouldn't have such crippling poverty and urban ghettos.
The selfish tribalism (apparently some people can't get it through their skulls that their fellow countrymen are... THEIR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN) is the problem, with too many people keeping a "fuck you I got mine" attitude. A rising tide raises all ships, etc.
All your post managed was to say "RACIST RACIST" just like you don't appreciate when people do it to you. Good job. You glossed right past my "its a less than perfect solution" and fail to address the other side of the issue. GOOD JOB RUNAWAY! EXCELLENT POINTS!
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:59AM
"subvert social welfare programs. The poverty trap is real"
A phrase from two different sentences. Take those two phrases and try to build a new sentence. I come up with something like "welfare programs are a poverty trap, and should be subverted."
All the money thrown at welfare programs simply do not improve neighborhoods, communities, cities, states, or regions. People get trapped in poverty when they rely on welfare programs. Random people, here and there, manage to beat that poverty trap, but communities do not. I'm not sure how welfare can be done right, but it's pretty obvious that we're doing it all wrong. The ghetto remains the ghetto, unless some "entrepreneur" pays officials to declare eminint domain, so that he can bulldoze a community to build some new worthless monument to capitalism.
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:33PM
The basic income idea I think is the best possible method. It would eliminate a ton of bureaucracy and give people the freedom to improve their lives without fear of repercussions. Currently welfare recipients are in the double trap of poverty and welfare. Being poor makes it harder to improve your life, and being on welfare means getting a crap job might actually make you lose money and make the month to month harder. Basic income would also create massive liquidity since pretty much all of it will be injected back into the economy as rent, food, and bills.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday January 20 2017, @10:39PM
Why is it okay to discriminate to only hire minorities but not to not hire them?
It's not. That's why they are being sued for: unlawfully favored Asian applicants in its recruiting and hiring efforts.
Did you even read the summary before firing off that tired talking point?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @01:21AM
Affirmative action in college admission don't work against the whites - it works against the Jews and Asians.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:27PM
Clearly, the overlords of this website twiddle bits with their special powers.
There is no way that that my comment could keep receiving "downvotes" so consistently without the meddling of a webmaster.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Zz9zZ on Friday January 20 2017, @10:35PM
So you're a real person huh? Hmmm, well maybe realize that your approach is that of a spammy troll and people such as myself log in just to downvote it to keep it from derailing / debasing the conversation.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 1) by Blightbow on Saturday January 21 2017, @07:15AM
your approach is that of a spammy troll and people such as myself log in just to downvote it to keep it from derailing / debasing the conversation.
Can confirm, would have spent mod points myself but others were on top of it already.
(Spam votes are free though, so I went to town on those.)
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:49PM
Did not know spam mods were free, will test that out :)
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 1) by NewNic on Friday January 20 2017, @10:47PM
Couldn't it? [checks remaining mod points ...]
Idiot.
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Friday January 20 2017, @11:04PM
And it was all worth it for the real chuckles you just gave me.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Zz9zZ on Friday January 20 2017, @10:32PM
Can we ban IPs that are obviously spam bots? Thankfully the community has downmodded the spam trash, but the slightly altered format of the same content 3-5 times should get a ban or temp ban at least.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:43PM
If you don't want repeats, then don't downvote; it's that simple.
No IP ban will work; there are proxies galore.
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Friday January 20 2017, @11:00PM
I'll save my mod points just for you ;) If you get downvoted then you should re-think your approach. All you did was spam the same stuff with slightly altered format.
Either the product is good or it is NOT. (Score:-1, Spam)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20, @08:58PM (#456701)
That is all that matters.
Anyway, Oracle found that white males were paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
Damned if you do; damned if you don't.
Fuck ALL of you—right up your tight little asses.
Starting with the title you've already pissed off most everyone who works for a company, only the product matters? The labor rights that people actually died for mean nothing to you?
Then there is the stupid crap about white males / racism. It isn't about race its about corporate profit margins. Your point is pretty "meh", but if you'd tried to make it a little less blatantly bitter it would be more palatable as a topic of discussion.
Then damned if you do damned if you don't, makes no real sense here.
Finally you tell everyone to go fuck themselves... I've spelled it out for you, next time you want to join the grown up table for the dinner conversation come prepared to act a little more mature. At the very least don't get all self-righteous when your crap is downmodded.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @11:51PM
Hence the horror among your ilk when Hillary lost; you just never understood what the fuck was going on...
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @12:02AM
I wasn't horrified, I was surprised at how little I cared since they're both absolute turds.
Now, being insulted in such a manner by someone such as yourself, well it just makes me feel better. Your team "won" and yet you're still a bitter piece of crap. Were you expecting everyone to start bowing down to your level of stupidity? Did you think the derision for your shitty attitude / beliefs would magically disappear? Now everyone gets to see the true faces of the nutjobs who have been holding in their inner stupidity for fear of being ostracized. I like to imagine that Trump is actually trolling all of you by getting you to come out in the open and let everyone see what you really are.
Take your election "victory" for what its worth and stop being so bitter about it. If you're still angry, perhaps a therapist? Well, that would be giving in to some elitist educated douchebag, so how about a lobotomy? Ooops, more educated jerks and now they'd be operating on you... Sorry, no solution for the "strong man" wannabes like yourself. You'll just have to suffer in your own mental illness until you reach step one: admitting you have a problem.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @12:06AM
There's no "my team" about it; I didn't support Trump.
Try again...
(Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Saturday January 21 2017, @02:07AM
Well that explains your bitterness then, take it out on someone else or try and be more constructive about it.
~Tilting at windmills~
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @06:01PM
> Then damned if you do damned if you don't, makes no real sense here
Hence the horror among your ilk when Hillary lost; you just never understood what the fuck was going on...
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @12:33AM
You seem very tense and stressed out, especially about Asian gentlemen. Perhaps you should see a massage therapist to help you relax. I hear Asian gentlemen are excellent masseuses ... you know they type.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @05:58PM
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:38PM
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday January 20 2017, @10:42PM
You'd be surprised...
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @10:46PM
Clearly, the overlords of this website twiddle bits with their special powers; there is no way that my comment could keep receiving "downvotes" so consistently without the meddling of a webmaster.
(Score: 4, Funny) by mr_bad_influence on Friday January 20 2017, @11:14PM
ORACLE is actually an acronym:
One
Rich
Asshole
Called
Larry
Ellison
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 20 2017, @11:57PM
> Who is ORACLE
>
> Why do we care about such a thing?
And in response, thus spake the Oracle:
} FOOL you dare to not grovel before me?! What blasphemy is this that you know not who I am.
} Lisa ZOT this damn fool with a thousand chipmunks from above https://internetoracle.org/ [internetoracle.org]
} You owe the Oracle a new set of cages for his demon chipmunks. They are rather expensive to keep around you know...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 21 2017, @05:53PM
That is all that matters.
Why would skin color or genitalia make a difference?!
Basically, Oracle found that white males are paid a lot of money (why?), so it instead looked for a cheaper alternative: Asian males.
So, I guess you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.