A man in Russia has been convicted of murder and sentenced to nine and a half years in prison for repeatedly stabbing his friend to death after a heated argument over AMD and Nvidia graphics card coolers.
[...] two Russian friends started arguing over which Graphics processor is better, nVida[sic] or AMD, and one of them ended up being killed in the most gruesome manner.
Aleksander Trofimov, 37, hacked his friend to death [in Russian] with a knife, after hitting him twice in the head. His friend, Evgeny Lylin, died instantly as a result. The murderer was so offended at the victim, he stabbed his dead body 11 times after a while.
The incident took place in the quite[sic] town of Saransk, Russia. The friends used to work together as colleagues a few years ago, and kept in touch ever since. Aleksander invited his friend for a few drinks, and both of them got drunk.
This led to the discussion about which cooler of a GPU is better [sic], nVidia or AMD. The discussion soon took a turn for the worst and Aleksander ended up murdering his friend for claiming that AMD was better.
Although the incident took place over an[sic] year ago, Aleksander got convicted and sentenced only recently. He was handed a nine and a half year prison sentence for the crime.
Additional coverage, in Russian, at http://by24.org/2017/02/17/russian_programmer_killed_and_burned_collegue_because_of_nvidia_features/.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:25AM
They both suck... ;-)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:34AM
Ikr, who uses stock coolers lol
(Score: 3, Funny) by jasassin on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:49AM
Don't get this guy started on Windows vs Linux! Yikes!
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(Score: 4, Funny) by Unixnut on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:53AM
> Don't get this guy started on Windows vs Linux! Yikes!
or vi vs emacs. The world would be turned into a wasteland by the end of the year!
(Score: 3, Informative) by Wootery on Thursday February 23 2017, @01:52PM
Well if it's waste you want, we know where you stand. Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday February 23 2017, @05:02PM
I would be more concerned about tabs vs spaces.
Whether or not lines should end with semicolons.
KDE or GNOME. (Let's not worry about the newer pipsqueak desktops that might actually be better)
Scheme or Common Lisp. (Or Clojure, etc)
Python 3 or 2
Pretty soon we could have a major riot. And without even mentioning US politics. It could be the ninth circle of systemd.
If you think a fertilized egg is a child but an immigrant child is not, please don't pretend your concerns are religious
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 24 2017, @03:17AM
Regarding indentation of course tabs are better. Tabs are a good fit for indentation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_stop [wikipedia.org] ).
If you use tabs different other people aren't forced to accept 1 indentation = X spaces and can pick whatever they prefer. If they want narrower/wider indentation than other people it doesn't affect the code - there are no whitespace changes.
Posted anonymously to avoid death or injury.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday February 24 2017, @03:33PM
I happen to agree. Obviously some people do not.
If you think a fertilized egg is a child but an immigrant child is not, please don't pretend your concerns are religious
(Score: 2) by Marand on Friday February 24 2017, @07:59AM
Time to enrage some people...
I would be more concerned about tabs vs spaces.
Tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment. Or "fuck it, whatever emacs just did when I hit tab"
Whether or not lines should end with semicolons.
Only if required for clear parsing. It's just visual noise otherwise.
In the same vein, I also prefer words (such as do/end) to braces for scoping, and prefer when they can be determined implicitly. Similar stance on typing: type inference should be preferred over explicit type definitions unless the compiler is unable to determine the correct type.
KDE or GNOME. (Let's not worry about the newer pipsqueak desktops that might actually be better)
KDE, because I prefer their design philosophy to GNOME's "we know better than you, fuck off" attitude and tendency to remove things and tell you how you were wrong for using it. (Refer to just about anything Lennart Poettering has said or written for an example of this attitude.)
Scheme or Common Lisp. (Or Clojure, etc)
Scheme or something in its general family, like Clojure or Racket. I think Lisp-1 (same namespace for functions and variables) is cleaner to read and write, and the Scheme family generally leans more toward functional programming, which suits me.
Python 3 or 2
Neither, I dislike Python and how Guido van Rossum has steered the language. He's openly hostile to functional programming and thinks the primary use for reduce is to implement sum. His view of programming styles is "If I don't like it, it's wrong and dumb!" and he basically said in a Slashdot interview [slashdot.org] that the functools library is his dumping ground for things people want that he thinks is dumb and useless. He even tried to use Python 3 to remove lambda, filter, and map [artima.com] until people revolted.
I'd rather use almost anything else high-level than Python; a Scheme, an ML-based language, Ruby, Perl, or even Lua would be better. I rather like how Smalltalk does OOP (which is probably why I don't mind Ruby) but I'm not familiar enough with it to say if I'd want to use it for anything serious.
Speaking of OOP, here's a flamewar you left out:
"Functional or object-oriented programming?"
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:17PM
"jasassin" hmmm
PYTHON IS BETTER THAN JS NYAH!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:49AM
> read first 5 words of TFTitle
> it's vodka
(Score: 3, Funny) by dyingtolive on Thursday February 23 2017, @02:07PM
That IS a pretty hardcore hack though.
Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
(Score: 4, Informative) by garrulus on Thursday February 23 2017, @11:16AM
Ryzen 7 1800X 3,6 GHz 4,0 GHz 95W $499 Core i7 6900K ($1089)
Ryzen 7 1700X 3,4 GHz 3,8 GHz 95W $399 Core i7 6800K ($434)
Ryzen 7 1700 3,0 GHz 3,7 GHz 65W $329 Core i7 7700K ($339)
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @11:17AM
The difference between fans on graphics cards and fans of graphics cards:
Fans on graphics cards remove heat. Fans of graphics cards add heat.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday February 23 2017, @04:09PM
In Korea, fans murder you. [wikipedia.org] In Russia, you murder fan!
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 3, Funny) by Username on Thursday February 23 2017, @11:33AM
How many times can you stab someone to death?
(Score: 5, Funny) by MostCynical on Thursday February 23 2017, @11:47AM
Once. At a certain point after that it is either an aerobic workout, or art.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @01:35PM
Hah Hah Hah LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Art ! Oh god y'er kill'n me !
Oh.... wait a minute....... maybe that wasn't the best choice of words .....
(Score: 3, Touché) by ledow on Thursday February 23 2017, @03:07PM
Aerobic for you.
Surely it gets more and more anaerobic for the other guy.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday February 23 2017, @09:58PM
All those extra holes to let air in?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Thursday February 23 2017, @11:48AM
11
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0x663EB663D1E7F223
(Score: 5, Funny) by mhajicek on Thursday February 23 2017, @03:51PM
I'm imagining the tootsie pop owl.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by Username on Friday February 24 2017, @06:49PM
Not sure if you can spawn camp IRL.
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Friday February 24 2017, @11:08PM
Twice now.
Whatta we got here? A cup a haters? A cup a haters?
I've got one word to describe you, and I'm gonna spell it out for ya S A W F T...
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(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Thursday February 23 2017, @01:19PM
Good question. Should we use brackets to clarify? E.g.
"(stab someone) to death", seeing the stabbing as a joint activity of multiple stabs accumulating in the death of the victim, or is "stab to death" referring to the stab that irrevocably initiated the transition?
I would say "once". Even if you perceive the stabbing as a joint activity, each stab contributes only a fraction of the death, summing up to "1".
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(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday February 23 2017, @03:53PM
Unless the subject receives medical attention and resuscitation. Then you can kill them again later.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Thursday February 23 2017, @04:22PM
If you "kill" someone, and the victim is successfully revived, could you still be charged with murder? Or would it be attempted murder?
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(Score: 2) by DannyB on Thursday February 23 2017, @05:04PM
It would be interrupted murder.
If you think a fertilized egg is a child but an immigrant child is not, please don't pretend your concerns are religious
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday February 23 2017, @06:18PM
Aborted murder?
*ducks*
(Score: 2) by takyon on Friday February 24 2017, @06:06PM
Fowl play
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(Score: 2) by Username on Friday February 24 2017, @06:36PM
That’s flocking funny.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by BenJeremy on Thursday February 23 2017, @12:27PM
I'd at least like to know which bunch of fanbois are more stabby!
(Score: 3, Informative) by Celestial on Thursday February 23 2017, @12:33PM
The Nvidia guy "won," but really I'd say that they both lost.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @12:36PM
Graphics card kills you!
(Score: 5, Funny) by jimshatt on Thursday February 23 2017, @12:40PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @12:52PM
Hmm, after seeing other news from by24.org ... I wonder if it is something like "The Onion"?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @04:12PM
Does "The Onion" wait until someone has been convicted before calling him a criminal? Very civilised, that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @02:28PM
I used to believe in AMD, just like I used to believe in a Ford. Now it's nVidia only, and Chevy.
(Score: 2, Funny) by higuita on Thursday February 23 2017, @07:03PM
No, AMD is clearly the best... say otherwise and i will kill you!! :D
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:09PM
You know what AMD stands for? Another Mediocre Display.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday February 23 2017, @04:01PM
Guessing this summary was translated by somebody, LOL.
for repeatedly stabbing his friend to death
He stabbed him to death more than once? That must take a lot of determination!
hacked his friend to death [in Russian] with a knife, after hitting him twice in the head. His friend, Evgeny Lylin, died instantly as a result.
Er, died instantly from which? The hitting in the head, or the "hacking"? "Hacking" implies multiple knife thrusts, I thought?
The murderer was so offended at the victim, he stabbed his dead body 11 times after a while.
Or maybe this was the "hacking" mentioned previously.
and both of them got drunk.
Silly me, this is Russia, of course they were drunk!
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 1) by oldmac31310 on Thursday February 23 2017, @08:11PM
The original article says that he died from the blows from a 'kitchen ax' (? unusual utensil for a kitchen) and was already dead when he was stabbed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @09:10PM
It's non-obscure English. I assume most native English readers would be able to parse it without too much trouble...
for repeatedly stabbing his friend to death
Read this as "for (repeatedly stabbing) his friend to death," not "for repeatedly (stabbing his friend to death." In other words, the person was stabbed repeatedly, and died as a result. It's like the redundant-sounding (but not really redundant)"shot to death." Just because you are shot doesn't mean you necessarily die, and just because you are stabbed repeatedly doesn't mean you necessarily die.
hacked his friend to death [in Russian] with a knife, after hitting him twice in the head. His friend, Evgeny Lylin, died instantly as a result.
He died from being "hacked to death," so it was specifically the hacking which killed him. The being hit on the head twice couldn't have helped, and they may have been lethal injuries on their own, but the proximate cause of death was the hacking.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday February 23 2017, @09:12PM
The point still stands that you can't really die "instantly" from a drawn-out assault.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @11:56PM
The point still stands that you can't really die "instantly" from a drawn-out assault.
Oh[sic], I[sic] dunno[sic] 'bout[sic] dat[sic]... I definitely feel the sting of a thousand tiny cuts when I'm made to suffer an "editor's" misunderstanding of how, when, and where to use the technical editorial scalpel that is [sic].
The moment I finally die from all these drawn-out a-salts[sic]-in-my-literacy-wounds will seem pretty damn instantaneous to me. It's kind of like "death by bees". Although each sting stung... I'll still be quite surprised when it inescapably kills me.
An editor would edit the submission and avoid it. An "editor" would get all pissy, brand his critics with a ridiculous nazi epithet and never ever reach for the local copy of Strunk & White.
I do, however feel the pain of present-day competent editors who must deal with the following:
The President said, "(**)[sic]"
They must be pretty sick of [sic] by now.
(Score: 2) by martyb on Friday February 24 2017, @04:29AM
In the days of setting type by hand, it was not uncommon for errors to be introduced when attempting to quote another source verbatim. There were cases, though, when the quoted source contained errors of its own. In those cases, one used [sic] to denote that the mistake appeared in the original and has been faithfully copied here, EXACTLY as it originally appeared.
In other words, don't blame us! (We did our job properly!) Blame the source, Luke!
Don't just take my word for it, though... here is what Wikipedia has to say about sic [wikipedia.org]:
Wit is intellect, dancing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @10:22PM
You think outsourcing and hiring interns to do real work is limited to tech???
Journalism has been dying for years...
Oh wait! I went and looked at the author, here's his little bio: I love to read books, play games and discover new things on the internet. The Last of Us is the best game ever. Oh, I also cover videogames.
So yeah, don't knock the blogger he's probably not even getting paid.
(Score: 2) by Nuke on Thursday February 23 2017, @05:41PM
So which won? AMD or Nvidia?
(Score: 2) by looorg on Thursday February 23 2017, @09:00PM
Not sure there is a winner here, AMD is apparently to die for and Nvidia went to jail.
(Score: 2) by chewbacon on Friday February 24 2017, @01:35AM
Such a senseless death. Everyone knows AMD graphics suck.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 23 2017, @08:47PM
I thought he was going to grate him to death
with a MoBo or something.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by looorg on Thursday February 23 2017, @09:07PM
Ignoring the whole AMD vs Nvidia angle and this just seems like a fairly common drunken brawl ending in death. It's almost ridiculous how common it is - people get drunk, there is an argument over something stupid, one person stabs the other to death with a knife.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 24 2017, @01:52AM
Wow, these Russians are so much more advanced killing each other over real computer graphics cards. Here in rAtlanta, almost every day some nigger shoots someone for their stupid toy iPhone.