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posted by on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the Takes-One-to-Know-One dept.

The former chairman of the Colorado Republican Party is charged with forgery and voter fraud for allegedly forging his wife’s[*] mail-in ballot from last year’s election, according to court records and sources.

Steven Curtis was the chairman of the state party from 1997 to 1999. He was charged Feb. 1 with one count of forgery of a public record, a fifth-degree felony, and an elections mail-in ballot offense, a misdemeanor.

Curtis spoke about voter fraud ahead of last year’s election.

"It seems to be, and correct me if I’m wrong here, but virtually every case of voter fraud I can remember in my lifetime was committed by Democrats,"

[* Note that she is described as his "former spouse" elsewhere, such as ...]

Also covered in more depth, and perhaps more accurately, at Salon.

1 down, 2,999,999 illegal votes to go!


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U.S. President Establishes Commission on Election Integrity 80 comments

A press release, dated 11 May, posted to the White House Web site (archived copy) announces (all links and party affiliations were added by the submitter):

[...] the issuance of an executive order forming the bipartisan Presidential Commission on Election Integrity. The President also named [Republican] Vice President Mike Pence as Chairman and Kansas Secretary of State [Republican] Kris Kobach as Vice-Chair of the Commission.

Five additional members were named to the bipartisan commission today:

        Connie Lawson [Republican], Secretary of State of Indiana
        Bill Gardner [Democratic], Secretary of State of New Hampshire
        Matthew Dunlap [Democratic], Secretary of State of Maine
        Ken Blackwell [Republican], Former Secretary of State of Ohio
        Christy McCormick, Commissioner, Election Assistance Commission

[...]

The Commission on Election Integrity will study vulnerabilities in voting systems used for federal elections that could lead to improper voter registrations, improper voting, fraudulent voter registrations, and fraudulent voting. The Commission will also study concerns about voter suppression, as well as other voting irregularities. The Commission will utilize all available data, including state and federal databases.

Secretary Kobach, Vice-Chair of the Commission added: "As the chief election officer of a state, ensuring the integrity of elections is my number one responsibility. The work of this commission will assist all state elections officials in the country in understanding, and addressing, the problem of voter fraud."

Additional Commission members will be named at a later time. It is expected the Commission will spend the next year completing its work and issue a report in 2018.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:37PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:37PM (#485103)

    Disgruntled wife lies in court knowing she won't get punished for trying to ruing his carrier but may get huge settlement. News at 11.

    • (Score: 0, Troll) by VLM on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:06PM (5 children)

      by VLM (445) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:06PM (#485116)

      his ex-wife’s absentee ballot

      Usually the standard divorce strategy is implying kiddie touching so I'm betting he has no kids so the ex- had to imply something... so here we are.

      • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:43PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:43PM (#485165)

        Hey look! Yet another VLM post that's all about his own twisted misogyny and nothing about the story at hand. Mod-up!

        The ex-wife called the election office to get an absentee ballot at her new address and they noticed her absentee ballot had already been filled out and returned with a forged signature. Furthermore, the man's own lawyer won't go on the record saying he's innocent, just "no comment." Since when does a lawyer not take the opportunity to proclaim his client's innocence to the press?

        Nah, it must be an elaborate scheme, carefully plotted with full knowledge that just dropping a hint to the right person would set off a domino chain of events leading to the public prosecution of her ex-husband for the most deliciously ironic crime. Revenge is a dish best served cold by Rube Goldberg. "I'm a scheming shitbag and so everyone else is too" — the logic of authoritarians.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:52PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:52PM (#485169)

          Also, like a true pleb, you interpret "no comment" to be some kind of admission of guilt even though that is the most standard response in the world of law enforcement.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:54PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:54PM (#485171)

          You do realize that this line supports VLM's "elaborate" scheme, right? It's saying that revenge is something that is best implemented through careful calculation, rather than passionate rashness.

          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:03PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:03PM (#485184)

            Did you take your vitamins today?
            Because you are looking a little irony-deficient.

            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:38PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:38PM (#485215)

              It's like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by fadrian on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:55PM (5 children)

    by fadrian (3194) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:55PM (#485106) Homepage

    Especially those voting regulations - they let too many of the wrong people vote and don't let the right people vote often enough. But the Republicans keep trying to fix that.

    --
    That is all.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:55PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:55PM (#485107)

    What's the reason why voter ballots are send to people by mail? Seems like that is inherently sensitive for fraud.

    In most countries you'll have to go the voting location first, there you can get the ballot after verifying ID and such, and than you can vote. Ballot stays there during the whole voting process.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:39PM

      by sjames (2882) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:39PM (#485134) Journal

      Because they have a right to vote even if they won't be able to get to the polling place. In this case, it sounds like she had recently moved to another state but her voter registration couldn't be updated in time. An absentee ballot was to only way she could have her right to vote.

    • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:57PM (5 children)

      by bradley13 (3053) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:57PM (#485175) Homepage Journal

      Mail is not necessarily a problem...

      Here (Switzerland) most people vote by mail. It's a lot more convenient, and - important point - you get a detailed set of documents with your ballot, written by the people for it and against it respectively. Obviously, you can inform yourself in other ways, but it's very convenient having the (presumably best) pro and con arguments sent to you along with the ballot. So you can sit down over a cup of coffee, read those arguments, and make your decision.

      What would constitute voter fraud? Consider:

      - Ballot theft? If I don't get my ballot, I'll go to the town hall and ask what happened. You would have to carefully steal ballots only from people who don't plan to vote. Unlikely to succeed on any sort of large scale.

      - Submitting forged ballots? You get or create "extra" ballots, and fill the in for someone else. But: the ballots are organized so that the town knows who voted, without knowing who cast which vote. So again, you have to carefully only forge ballots for people who aren't going to vote, because duplicate names will be noticed.

      - Voting the graveyard, etc. - doesn't work here, because towns here know who their residents are, and only residents get ballots.

      Anything else is going to require collusion of the vote counters, or fraud at a higher level than individual ballots. Seems to me that voting by mail is actually pretty secure.

      --
      Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by NewNic on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:47PM (4 children)

        by NewNic (6420) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:47PM (#485292) Journal

        The real problem with mail-in ballots is that you don't know whose views are represented by the votes cast.

        I would be willing to bet that there are many, many households where the patriarch or matriarch of the family collects all the ballots and either fills them in, or instructs the family members how to fill them in and then they are returned. Effectively, the patriarch or matriarch votes multiple times, while the family members are disenfranchised.

        IMHO, postal votes should not be available on demand: they should only be available to people who have a good reason to vote by mail. My father made it to the polls to vote in person when he was in his '90s.

        As for the voter information: there is no reason why this cannot be sent in advance to every voter. In fact, this is how it works where I live in CA.

        --
        lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Tuesday March 28 2017, @06:27PM

          by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 28 2017, @06:27PM (#485374) Homepage Journal

          Here in Quebec, the election officials hold polls in senior's residences to make sure they can vote.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @01:09AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @01:09AM (#485593)

          Yeah, because it's so important that we prevent a few cases of fraud that we must make voting less easy and available.

          My father made it to the polls to vote in person when he was in his '90s.

          Cool, but there are many who can't.

          • (Score: 2) by number6x on Wednesday March 29 2017, @04:30PM

            by number6x (903) on Wednesday March 29 2017, @04:30PM (#486001)

            My wife's grandfather voted in his 90's. He slipped on the ice on the way out of the polling place and cracked his neck.

            He was recovering well in the local hospital he was sent to originally. The doctors said he would recover with very few problems.

            he was then transfered to a VA hospital. He was a WWI vet. He got a staph infection at the VA and died shortly afterwards.

            Making it easier to vote is a good thing for citizens. Making it difficult to vote is a good thing for politicians.

        • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday March 29 2017, @08:54AM

          by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Wednesday March 29 2017, @08:54AM (#485778)

          The real problem with mail-in ballots is that you don't know whose views are represented by the votes cast.

          Do you know this to be a problem or are you just assuming this? I used a mail-in absentee ballot when I lived and worked in a desert national park which was over 100 miles from the actual polling place. So did others who worked there and had established residency. None of us to my knowledge had our ballots filled in by anyone other than ourselves.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:28PM (#485131)

    n/t

  • (Score: 3, Disagree) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:47PM (20 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 28 2017, @01:47PM (#485138) Journal

    That's why the R's are so certain that voting fraud takes place. They're doing it. Then, there was the female illegal alien in Dallas, who voted 5 times in the same election. That one was a D. OF COURSE voter fraud is a thing!

    Let's require photo ID, and you've got to show your face at the poll. If you can't get to the poll, you can't vote - not because you've been "disenfranchised", but because you consider other things to be more important than voting.

    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:00PM (17 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:00PM (#485177)

      Then, there was the female illegal alien in Dallas, who voted 5 times in the same election. That one was a D. OF COURSE voter fraud is a thing!

      Once again derpaway gets everything [nytimes.com] wrong.

      She had a green card, she was not illegal.
      She came to the US as an infant and didn't know she was ineligible to vote.
      Her case only came to light when she moved to a new address, filled out a new voter registration form and checked the non-citizen box.
      She voted in five different elections, not the same election.
      She was registered as a republican.

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:32PM (16 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:32PM (#485206) Journal

        http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/02/09/grand-prairie-woman-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud/ [cbslocal.com]

        "Prosecutors say the reason officials at the elections department in Dallas didn’t stop the voter fraud from happening is because Rosa Ortega claimed she was a citizen on her application."
        “The jury didn’t believe that story. They believed that the defendant knew exactly what she was doing, and they responded accordingly,” Prosecutor Jonathan White said.

        http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/09/non-us-citizen-gets-eight-years-for-voter-fraud-in-texas/ [theblaze.com]
        "Ortega, now 37, came to the U.S. with her mother when she was a child," So, blame the mother, not the child.

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/what-voter-fraud-mexican-citizen-sentenced-8-years-prison-after-illegally-voting-tex [zerohedge.com]
        As you may recall, we wrote about a similar incident back in September in which the Cascade Mall shooter, a Turkish citizen, who killed 5 people in the state of Washington was found to have also been illegally voting for years. And, just like the case above, Washington's Secretary of State noted that there was no way to prevent the voter fraud because "we don’t have a provision in state law that allows either county elections officials or the Secretary of State's office to verify someone’s citizenship."

        THIS MAY BE THE BEST LINK:
        http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/02/05/texas-putting-mexican-national-trial-alleged-illegal-voting/ [breitbart.com]

        First, she was sentenced by a judge named Catalano. He MAY not be Mexican - but he's probably "Hispanic". LOL - sounds fitting to me.

        Second - it is reported on several news sources that she voted FIVE TIMES - however, she only participated in TWO ELECTIONS. Seems pretty damned obvious, she left one polling place, went to another, and VOTED AGAIN! The woman cast multiple votes in the same election.

        Now, you just derp along yourself, Anonymous Wuss. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. That's why you believe that silly shit about "brought here as a child, and didn't understand the difference, thought she was a citizen" blah blah blah. Which part of "fraud" do you fail to understand?

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:49PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:49PM (#485226)

          What a bizzare gish gallop of bullshit and lies.

          The judge had a hispanic name, totally important!

          The cascade mall shooter is a citizen. [foxnews.com]

          How many times do you have to be stupid and wrong before you delete your account?

          • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:00PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:00PM (#485241)

            How many cocks do you have to suck before you blow your brains out? Your existence is an insult to all of mankind, you cum guzzling gutter slut. Let me guess, you're one of Hillary's bitches. You'll make excuses for anyone and everyone, except a white male hetero. "Oooohhhh, boo-hoo - the girl is retarded, she doesn't know if she's a citizen or not! Ohhhh, boo-hoo-hoo, if she's sent back to Mexico, her kids will suffer! Oooh-hoo-hoooooo, she was just looking for a better life, so she dropped some anchor babies!"

            Just suck off and die, bitch.

            • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:03PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:03PM (#485247)

              Triggered

        • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:54PM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:54PM (#485235)

          Dude, just give it a break already..

          theblaze.com - "American conservative multiplatform news and entertainment network available on television, radio, and the Internet founded by conservative talk radio personality and entrepreneur Glenn Beck," [wikipedia.com]

          zerohedge.com - "Zero Hedge, a financial blog, offers a deeply conspiratorial, anti-establishment and pessimistic view of the world. " [cnn.com]

          And Breitbart, really? You need to put get out of the echo chamber and go do something worthwhile, like building a treefort or walking the dog.

          Damn, man.

          • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:02PM (7 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:02PM (#485245) Journal

            You prefer the MSM echo chamber, is that it?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:05PM (6 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:05PM (#485248)

              I prefer facts.
              You seem to by reality's well-known liberal bias.

              • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:13PM (5 children)

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:13PM (#485256) Journal

                ROFLMAO - get out of the echo chamber.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:33PM (4 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:33PM (#485280)

                  Its like people have been telling you that and you felt hurt by it, so now you say it to people you don't like because you think you are being insulting instead of self-revealing. Alt-insults FTL.

                  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:38PM (3 children)

                    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:38PM (#485285) Journal

                    No, it's like you read liberal noise sources, and have no idea that there might be other sources. Listen to yourself whining above, crying about the various news sources I found for you. You refuse to read anything that doesn't verify your pre-formed opinion.

                    You're the one inside the echo chamber, and you won't listen to any discordant notes in your idiot's symphony.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:19PM (1 child)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:19PM (#485306)

                      Yes, yes, you've decided to trust your bias-confirming alt-news 'sources' that were created because reality wouldn't cooperate in validating your shared ideology.

                      You think because you are a kool-aid addict everyone else must be too. But in leveling that charge all you reveal is that you are a kool-aid addict.

                      When even fox news is part of the "MSM echo chamber" you have to seriously consider that you've OD'd on the kool-aid and have gone to alt-heaven.

                      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 29 2017, @01:36PM

                        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 29 2017, @01:36PM (#485874) Journal

                        Alt right again. The word you are searching for is "populist". Trump won, get over it. No, you don't get to invent a new word to explain it. The Donald won the populist vote. nowstopyourfuckinwhiningalright

                        Step out of your echo chamber, and talk to regular Americans for awhile. Just shut the damned television off. Unplug from whichever talk show you listen to regularly. Stay away from MSNBCCBSABCTURNERHEARST for a little while. Listen to real people for awhile. You know, the couple hundred million of us who don't give a small damn about your burning issues, like - ohhhh - certain questionable people who insist on using non-gender appropriate restrooms.

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @04:03AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @04:03AM (#485662)

                      Poor Runaway, he is an American of very little brain.

                      No, it's like you read liberal noise sources, and have no idea that there might be other sources

                      If what these "other sources" are "sourcing" is alt-factual fake news, they are not "sources" at all. You are engaged in false equivalency, Runaway1234! Let's go back to Sesame Street! "One of these things is not like the others, one of these things doesn't belong."

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:58PM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:58PM (#485239)

          We couldn't have a reasonable run of decency from Runaway, the other shoe was bound to drop.

          I can't find these references to voting multiple times in a single election. Seems pretty obvious to me you are making claims with no source after linking to four different stories... Gimme a break. Your best link is from Breitbar? Home of alternative facts?

          Grow up Runaway, tricks are for kids.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:14PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:14PM (#485257)

            Teats are for kids.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:06PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:06PM (#485473)

              So grow up and leave your momma's titties alone!!! Sickos around here...

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @07:39PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @07:39PM (#485420)

            Gimme a break. Your best link is from Breitbar? Home of alternative facts?

            Same place the Great Orange Il Duce got the info on the wiretapping of the Tower of Power of Trumpf.

    • (Score: 1) by redneckmother on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:44PM

      by redneckmother (3597) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @03:44PM (#485219)

      Let's require photo ID, and you've got to show your face at the poll. If you can't get to the poll, you can't vote - not because you've been "disenfranchised", but because you consider other things to be more important than voting.

      Or, you live 50 miles away from the polls, can't afford the fuel / have no reliable transportation, are disabled, .....

      Sorry Runaway, I can't back you on this one.

      --
      Mas cerveza por favor.
    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:25PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @10:25PM (#485517)

      > If you can't get to the poll, you can't vote - not because you've been "disenfranchised", but because you consider other things to be more important than voting.

      Like spending hours going to and from your job(s) on a Tuesday?
      Elections on a work day are structurally disenfranchising the working poor, who are also least likely to have a current photo ID.

      At last check, they were the same "one adult, one vote" as you.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:37PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @02:37PM (#485162)

    Instead of banning voter fraud, we should ban Republicans at this point.
    This is ridiculous. Claiming voter fraud then committing it, collusion with Russia, and propping up easily the most sexist/racist President since... who even knows?
    If they weren't politicians, they'd be living in rural West Virginia out of work with the rest of their stock of fine individuals.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:00PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:00PM (#485243)

      To be fair to the GOP they hated / still do hate him. They only back him because he now has the presidency and they don't want to get left behind.

      As for voting fraud, they are the farmers who just loooove the cute widdle foxes!

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:13PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:13PM (#485254)

    I left Slashdot because of political posts. The the slashdot management move to soylent?

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:28PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:28PM (#485270)

      I don't know what you expected in the "Politics" nexus. Puppies?
      If you have an account, you can go to https://soylentnews.org/my/homepage [soylentnews.org] and turn it off.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @07:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @07:32PM (#485416)

      As the other AC mentioned, this site recently introduced a new feature that would enable you to specifically ignore all political stories (that are assigned to that nexus). This goes beyond the typical "don't click the stories you aren't interested in" and it is even easier in this case since the title starts with "Politics:".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:08PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @09:08PM (#485476)

      Politics is such a huge part of our lives now, gone are the days when you could expect politicians to do their jobs and not cause massive problems. So, because of that you get political commentary all over the place, sometimes when it isn't even applicable. Find me the news discussion site where that does NOT happen!! Please?

      • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Wednesday March 29 2017, @01:13AM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Wednesday March 29 2017, @01:13AM (#485594)

        gone are the days when you could expect politicians to do their jobs and not cause massive problems.

        Those days never existed and likely never will exist.

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