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posted by martyb on Saturday April 08 2017, @09:51PM   Printer-friendly
from the fee-fie-foe-fum? dept.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/04/giant-viruses-found-austrian-sewage-fuel-debate-over-potential-fourth-domain-life

Tourists visiting the town of Klosterneuburg in eastern Austria often head for the 12th century monastery or the nearby memorial to author Franz Kafka. Virologists and evolutionary biologists, however, may one day pay homage to the town's sewage treatment plant, which has yielded a genome that appears to be from the most cell-like viruses yet [DOI: 10.1126/science.aal4657] [DX]. These oddities challenge the controversial hypothesis that so-called giant viruses are descendants of a vanished group of cellular organisms—a fourth domain of life. Instead, the study argues, these outsized viruses have more pedestrian origins.

"I found [the work] very convincing," says environmental virologist Matthias Fischer of the Max Planck Institute for Medical Research in Heidelberg, Germany. "Based on the data available now, I would not put my money on the fourth domain hypothesis."

Most viruses are much smaller than cells and need few genes because they replicate by co-opting the machinery of their hosts. Certain bird and pig viruses, for example, get by with just two genes, compared with nearly 4400 genes in a common strain of the intestinal bacterium Escherichia coli. Because viruses cannot reproduce independently and lack other hallmarks of cellular organisms, biologists have typically blackballed them from the club of life.

The first report of giant viruses, in Science in 2003, jolted researchers. Not only are these viruses larger than many microorganisms, but they can carry more than 2500 genes, surpassing many bacteria. These behemoths required revisions to the evolutionary tree of life, some scientists contended. The standard tree has three main groups, or domains—bacteria, archaea, and eukaryotes. But several researchers proposed that giant viruses are leftovers of a fourth domain of life. In this view, their ancestors were now-extinct cells that over time ditched many genes and became parasites.

Also at: http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/06/522478901/in-giant-virus-genes-hints-about-their-mysterious-origin


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 08 2017, @10:38PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 08 2017, @10:38PM (#490996) Journal

    Instead, the study argues, these outsized viruses have more pedestrian origins...
    In this view, their ancestors were now-extinct cells that over time ditched many genes and became parasites.

    And... how this make them of "pedestrian" origin?
    Is it something like cells that fell off ones' smelly feet and then decided to go parasitically viral? Somehow like Shatner [soylentnews.org]?

    (grin)

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @02:12PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @02:12PM (#491164)

    Viruses do not grow, they assemble.
    Viruses do not reproduce, they replicate.
    Viruses do not have a metabolism.
    Viruses do not translate mRNA into protein.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:51PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:51PM (#491284)

      I say viruses are alive. In my book, none of those things are required. If you can kill it, it's alive. :)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:26PM (#491659)

        You can "kill" almost anything: just remove its defining quality and it is "dead".

      • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Monday April 10 2017, @06:28PM

        by urza9814 (3954) on Monday April 10 2017, @06:28PM (#491808) Journal

        I say viruses are alive. In my book, none of those things are required. If you can kill it, it's alive. :)

        So certain system processes are only alive if you're logged in as root? ;)

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