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posted by on Sunday April 09 2017, @10:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the my-yoga-teacher-says-vaccines-cause-autism dept.

More than 42 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 59 are infected with genital human papillomavirus [HPV], according to the first survey to look at the prevalence of the virus in the adult population.

The report [pdf], published on Thursday by the National Center for Health Statistics, found that certain high-risk strains of the virus infected 25.1 percent of men and 20.4 percent of women. These strains account for approximately 31,000 cases of cancer each year, other studies have shown.

Two vaccines are effective in preventing sexually transmitted HPV infection, and researchers said the new data lend urgency to the drive to have adolescents vaccinated.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/health/hpv-virus-survey-united-states.html


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Rates of syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia have climbed for the fourth consecutive year in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Tuesday at the National STD Prevention Conference in Washington. Last year, nearly 2.3 million US cases of these sexually transmitted diseases were diagnosed, according to preliminary data.
That's the highest number ever reported nationwide, breaking the record set in 2016 by more than 200,000 cases, according to the CDC.

[...] In 2013, there were 1,752,285 total cases of chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis diagnosed in the United States. That number grew to 1,811,850 in 2014; 1,945,746 in 2015; 2,094,682 in 2016; and 2,294,821 in 2017, according to the preliminary CDC data.

[...] The preliminary data suggest that more than 1.7 million cases of chlamydia were diagnosed in 2017, with about 45% -- 771,340 cases -- emerging among 15- to 24-year-old women and girls. Chlamydia, which remained the most common STD reported to the CDC, is caused by the bacterium Chlamydia trachomatis and easily transmitted during any form of sexual activity. If not treated, chlamydia can lead to pelvic inflammatory disease in women, which can cause permanent damage to the reproductive system. In men, the infection can spread to the tube that carries sperm from the testicles, causing pain and fever.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:13PM (18 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:13PM (#491373)

    If these vaccines are indeed effective, some adults could benefit from them. But adults are troublesome because they can withhold consent.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:24PM (7 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:24PM (#491378) Homepage

      Indeed. [hrsa.gov]

      Though that's not saying that all vaccines are bad, it's proof that there are some well-deserved trust issues between much of the public and the American medical establishment.

      No, I don't need your fucking flu shot, and all you Asians at work wearing surgical masks because you heard about Swine Flu on TV are making asses of yourself.

      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:02AM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:02AM (#491407)

        The idea of vaccines was hijacked by the medical establishment to infect us with who knows what. Daily they develop new strains of cancer to infect us with, and diseases that weaken and destroy our genes.

        The double-snake symbol represents the secret societies that control all medicine. Cancer (of all forms) was cured in the 60s, and none of those in establishment get cancer. Ever wonder why?

        And I agree, surgical masks cannot fix what your food has been infected with, what your water has been polluted with, what your detergent does to your skin...

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:44AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:44AM (#491459)

          Hey! Quit hogging the good shit!

          Puff puff PASS, dammit! You've had enough!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:23AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:23AM (#491487)

            Call me when Clinton, Bush, Bama, etc gets cancer and dies from it after months and years of agonizing pain (I wish!).

            • (Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday April 10 2017, @03:46AM

              by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Monday April 10 2017, @03:46AM (#491492)

              Steve Jobs was not Elite enough?

            • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday April 10 2017, @07:08PM

              by tangomargarine (667) on Monday April 10 2017, @07:08PM (#491844)

              The U.S. medical system is the best on earth...as long as you're filthy rich. Our mistake is not being rich enough.

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        • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 10 2017, @07:26PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 10 2017, @07:26PM (#491867) Journal

          The double-snake symbol represents the secret societies that control all medicine.

          The double-snake symbol is the symbol of . . . wait for it . . . commerce.

          The single-snake symbol is the symbol of medicine. Funny you don't see this one.

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      • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:14AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:14AM (#491441)

        There is a very narrow window of time during which the effects must show up. If you are affected either before or after that window, no compensation for you! You get nothing, and you can't sue. The system is set up to evade paying out.

        It also of course doesn't value an A+ student any more than an F student. Some kids are worth a lot more than they pay.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @12:26AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @12:26AM (#491393)

      If these vaccines are indeed effective, some adults could benefit from them.

      They are effective, but not for adults over 25 because they've (typically) already been exposed.

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday April 10 2017, @12:41AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday April 10 2017, @12:41AM (#491400) Homepage

        Or, you know, you could just get the flu (like every damn kid on the block used to) and endure temporary discomfort to strengthen your immune system. Although I was vaccinated as a kid I never had a damn flu shot in my life, and got the flu approximately every year from single-digit age until around age 25, with some rare exceptions.

        There's a big difference between what people actually need and what is pushed on them for hysterical fearmongering bullshit reasons.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by HiThere on Monday April 10 2017, @12:49AM (5 children)

      by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 10 2017, @12:49AM (#491402) Journal

      It's my understanding that the vaccines are effective, but only before you've been exposed. If you've already got HPV, they don't cause you to get rid of it.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:27AM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:27AM (#491530)

        Yep vaccines work a bit like vaccines, not like cures. Thats why they are called vaccines...

        Who modded this informative?
        Do they also know that water is wet?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:07AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:07AM (#491557)

          Unlike the fact that water is wet, the fact that vaccines don't help once you're infected is far less widely known that one would wish. Therefore there are likely some readers who didn't know it, and therefore were informed by that post. Thus that post is informative, and deserves moderated as such.

          • (Score: 1) by Chrontius on Monday April 10 2017, @08:00PM

            by Chrontius (5246) on Monday April 10 2017, @08:00PM (#491896)

            Actually? Many vaccines are used theraputically, though more are used prophylactically.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @12:20AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @12:20AM (#492033)

          Water isn't wet when frozen, vaporized, or dried into a fine water powder. Most people get this wrong. It's ok, you don't need to go into a corner and cry.

        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday April 15 2017, @05:45PM

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 15 2017, @05:45PM (#494499) Journal

          Actually, this isn't true of all vaccines. Some increase the strength of the immune reaction enough to cause you to cure yourself even if you had already caught the disease. But you don't get over HPV, even with an activated immune system.

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    • (Score: 2) by cykros on Monday April 10 2017, @02:12PM

      by cykros (989) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:12PM (#491633)

      Adults are much more likely to see themselves as not at risk if they're in a settled down relationship, while long term relationships for adolescents are measured in weeks, putting them as a much higher risk group for both contracting and spreading HPV. Adults who may have a more higher risk lifestyle (or those who might have a spouse with a higher risk lifestyle) should probably be quick to seek out the vaccine, but a big push may simply be a pretty low priority, even if they're not 100% safe.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @04:00PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @04:00PM (#491693)

      I have actively tried to get this vaccine. But, they forbit it's use on those over 35.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:34PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:34PM (#491382)

    For those who don't know, the United States is a circumcising people.

    One of the really big modern justifications for this relio-cultural practice is that circumcision supposedly helps a lot in preventing the spread of a number of STDs, one of which is HPV.

    Well, despite being a circumcising people, the U.S. is one of the most disgustingly infected of all the "first"-world nations, even when compared to those nasty countries where people don't subject their sons to such surgical correction of their sexual organs.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by looorg on Monday April 10 2017, @12:02AM

      by looorg (578) on Monday April 10 2017, @12:02AM (#491389)

      ... just imagine how bad it would have been if they didn't circumcise, HPV everywhere.

    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 10 2017, @01:59AM (1 child)

      by kaszz (4211) on Monday April 10 2017, @01:59AM (#491436) Journal

      Any data if it's the same people that are circumcised, that get HPV? otherwise the data won't prove anything at all.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @08:11AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @08:11AM (#491541)

        It must be "those" kind of people who spread all the diseases to the rest of us "good folk". It couldn't be us *shocked face*.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:10AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:10AM (#491558)

      So what percentage of Americans is actually circumcised?

      • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday April 10 2017, @01:41PM (1 child)

        by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday April 10 2017, @01:41PM (#491616) Journal

        Anyone who is of European descent and Christian is almost guaranteed to be circumcised. Both Catholics and Protestants.

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday April 10 2017, @02:45PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:45PM (#491646)

          In 2005, about 56 percent of male newborns were circumcised prior to release from the hospital according to statistics from the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. Data from a national survey conducted from 1999 to 2002 found that the overall prevalence of male circumcision in the United States was 79%.
          Prevalence of circumcision - Wikipedia
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision [wikipedia.org]

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @08:37PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @08:37PM (#491932)

      Genital mutilation is predominately performed to reduce the sexual competitiveness of the younger generation relative to the older, literally to make them more docile. Most of the excuses are just that.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:02PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:02PM (#491939)

        I doubt your view. I've read that among circumcising peoples, both men and their sexual partners suffer a greater degree of sexual frustration and performance problems; it seems like it would be a good way to build up young men's desire for violent outlets, like war.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:58PM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @11:58PM (#491387)

    It's well known that living in parental basements is a great way to avoid STDs. My guess is that SN readership as much lower infection rates than the public "at large".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:18AM (7 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:18AM (#491414)

      In 2017, we can order hookers over the internet. No need to leave the basement.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:18AM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:18AM (#491444)

        I'm too nervous to talk to a female hooker.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:33AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:33AM (#491454)

          ...talk?

          You might be too /naive/ to do business with a sex professional.

          • (Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday April 10 2017, @02:44AM (2 children)

            by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:44AM (#491460) Homepage

            Hookers are also thugs. If you're the basement type then chances are that the hookers you're buying perceive you as harmless, and would much rather you just yank the pannies down and leave the cash on the nightstand for them to take after you prematurely ejaculate rather than have to endure your feeble attempts at conversation.

            Don't kiss hookers, either. The hookers who don't allow it are usually higher-class ($400+/hr graduate students and whatnot) USC or UCLA students who are only need to pay their tuition and are saving kissie-kissies from bad emotional attachments. The ones who do let those kiss have usually already sucked 10 dicks that night, and without brushing their teeth.

            • (Score: 2, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 10 2017, @03:07AM

              by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday April 10 2017, @03:07AM (#491479) Journal

              You sound as though you speak from experience :D Really though, you don't even brush your teeth between clients? Nasty-ass Eth...

              --
              I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:35AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:35AM (#491490)

              Thanks for that info. Many of us didn't know this and think hookers are a disadvantaged group who are shy and insecure and need to be hugged and spoken to nicely.

              Keep it to the point and take ejaculation-control medication before beginning. Wear gloves and socks, and of course a sock over the important bits. Then wash thoroughly after you are done. Try to ejaculate on cue. Hookers try and get as many clients as possible in one night... you know... to pay their Jewish pimp.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:37AM (#491533)

        link pls.

      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 10 2017, @07:30PM

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 10 2017, @07:30PM (#491871) Journal

        In 2017, we can order hookers over the internet. No need to leave the basement.

        In 2017, I can order hookers from the front desk.

        "Hey, front desk, there are only three hookers in my closet. I have more than three shirts to hang in the closet. So could you please send about a dozen more hookers to my room? What? Yes, of course I'm serious!"

        --
        People today are educated enough to repeat what they are taught but not to question what they are taught.
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by charon on Monday April 10 2017, @12:01AM (36 children)

    by charon (5660) on Monday April 10 2017, @12:01AM (#491388) Journal
    The reason Americans have not embraced this vaccine is the insane Puritanical attitude that women should be punished for having and enjoying sex. You know, the same reason female birth control and abortions are difficult to obtain. HPV causes cancer in women, and the dirty whores deserve it.
    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday April 10 2017, @12:27AM (2 children)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday April 10 2017, @12:27AM (#491394) Homepage

      Hey man, guys can get genital warts, and herpes, and elephantiasis of the scrotum. Images are readily available online if you don't believe me, although I'll leave it up to you to search for examples -- But I'll tell ya this: You know what the Blue Waffle is? Just imagine what the equivalent of that for men is, and you can find it online.

      Men can also be punished for being pigs, practicing poor impulse-control, and dipping their dicks into the town bicycle while slobbering drunk at a party. And, before somebody mentions that women are the ones who get pregnant and have the babies, men similarly pay there too -- getting raped out the ass with child-support. Get divorced in the military, and if you were with your spouse for 10 years, then she automagically gets half of your retirement. Thanks Reagan!

      "Family Values" are what is destroying the family unit, and that is grossly and unfairly offsetting the difficulty of raising a kid with condemning the father to debt slavery and having the deck stacked against him in family court. Women become harpies when left to their own devices without the iron hand of a man able to lay down the law. And that's precisely what utopias like California do -- cripple the ability for wholesome familes to self-regulate.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by butthurt on Monday April 10 2017, @01:21AM (1 child)

      by butthurt (6141) on Monday April 10 2017, @01:21AM (#491416) Journal

      Not just women:

      It is estimated that more than 1,168 new cases of HPV-associated penile cancers are diagnosed in the United States each year. [...] HPV is thought to be responsible for about 63% of penile cancers.

      -- https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/penile.htm [cdc.gov]

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:48AM (#491432)

      There is that, and as the US health business is run as a profit making concern, who is going to benefit by keeping vaccinaton rates low?

      Anyone who can provide expensive cancer treaments in the future.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Sulla on Monday April 10 2017, @02:15AM (22 children)

      by Sulla (5173) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:15AM (#491443) Journal

      I don't know about where you live but in many public schools on the west coast middle schools have a place kids can go to get condoms. I guess that ls all just kids being kids but as the parent I don't like my options being a daughter fucked up by hormone pills or risking a condom breaking. But I guess in this modern world we live in its okay if she gets pregnant or an STD we can flush one and begin treatment on the other.

      Be they boys or girls, there is way too much "who cares about consequences" going on in the area of sex. I presume I may be one of the few, but I hold men who sleep around with the same distain as women who do. I can't recall a time in my entire life that my group of close friends has ever talked about sex.

      So if people want to be degenerate, go do it somewhere else and be quiet about it. Fuck a new girl/guy everynight? Thats fine just don't talk about it. But stop pushing this shit on my kids, because you wont be the one dealing with the consequences. Unless of course you live in the UK and have only femanized fish in the Thames due to BC runoff
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/male-fish-are-being-feminised-by-river-pollution-1446764.html [independent.co.uk]

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      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 10 2017, @02:29AM (8 children)

        by kaszz (4211) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:29AM (#491452) Journal

        Partner screening with regards to STD and condoms go a long way.

        Teenagers will have sex. So you can steer it, but not avoid it. Invite boys that have been screened both for STDs and personality to cockblock the bad boys?

        • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday April 10 2017, @02:58AM (4 children)

          by butthurt (6141) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:58AM (#491471) Journal

          > Teenagers will have sex. So you can steer it, but not avoid it.

          Chastity belts are still a thing:

          On February 6, 2004, USA Today reported that at Athens airport in Greece, a woman's steel chastity belt had triggered a security alarm at the metal detector. The woman explained that her husband had forced her to wear the device to prevent an extramarital affair while she was on vacation in Greece.

          -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity_belt#Other_occurrences [wikipedia.org]

          • (Score: 2, Informative) by charon on Monday April 10 2017, @03:00AM (1 child)

            by charon (5660) on Monday April 10 2017, @03:00AM (#491474) Journal
            And that's not unutterably creepy behavior?
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @06:37AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @06:37AM (#491520)

              Its probably an S&M thing.

          • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Monday April 10 2017, @07:32PM

            by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 10 2017, @07:32PM (#491872) Journal

            Chastity belts are still a thing

            2004 was a long time ago. We live in modern times now.

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          • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 10 2017, @11:34PM

            by kaszz (4211) on Monday April 10 2017, @11:34PM (#492014) Journal

            If it saves the husband from HIV etc.. It surely have benefits. Besides from a wife that have a huge backlog of not-for-children.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:57AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:57AM (#491535)

          Kids don't just live up to your expectations. They also live down to your expectations. You're expecting irresponsible reckless behavior, and so you'll surely get it.

          Suppose you supply them with bongs and crack pipes and needles, and you give them a list of dealers with "the good stuff" at decent prices. You've indicated an expectation. Does this make it more or less likely that the kids will become druggies?

          • (Score: 1) by lonehighway on Monday April 10 2017, @05:27PM (1 child)

            by lonehighway (956) on Monday April 10 2017, @05:27PM (#491758)

            They will probably do the opposite because if the parents think it's cool, the children will think it's anything but.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @07:27AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 11 2017, @07:27AM (#492164)

              You speak as if you actually have kids... in contrast to your parent post.

      • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday April 10 2017, @02:51AM (5 children)

        by butthurt (6141) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:51AM (#491466) Journal

        > [...] femanized fish in the Thames due to BC runoff [...]

        No. From your linked article:

        The contraceptive pill is not thought to be responsible for the oestrogens in sewage effluent because women excrete its hormones in a biologically inactive form that has no effect on fish.

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday April 10 2017, @02:39PM (4 children)

          by tangomargarine (667) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:39PM (#491644)

          because women excrete its hormones

          I thought the issue was flushing The Pill, not...the chemicals after they pass through their bodies?

          P.S. Why would you flush it anyway? Why not just throw it in the trash?

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          • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday April 10 2017, @03:45PM (3 children)

            by butthurt (6141) on Monday April 10 2017, @03:45PM (#491677) Journal

            I don't speak for the other poster, but I understood "flush" to be a euphemism for abortion.

            • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Hyperturtle on Monday April 10 2017, @04:59PM (2 children)

              by Hyperturtle (2824) on Monday April 10 2017, @04:59PM (#491739)

              I have to believe the problem* is that the liver breaks down the pill for its intended use, and the kidneys excrete whats left after it has circulated through the body and the various reactions have taken place. That is nearly always the expectation for what occurs prior to drug of some kind being found in nature that got there via our disposal habits.

              Very, very few drugs we ingest are perfectly consumed by the body. It's one aspect as to why we have to go to the bathroom, and why we don't emit chemically pure and reusable, tasteless and clear water, and condense masses of unsoluable dietary fiber. It does not work like that, but it'd be nice...

              Instead, to prevent death and other problems, the body excretes such things as the chemicals we ingest, but many do build up in the body (which are not in scope for this reply...)

              Those that get excreted in fact are part of how drug tests work (at least the ones that use urine samples).

              Many ingested drugs make their way in a weakened form into the water we drink, via numerous methods, and are readily detectable. In the case of typical work related drug tests, they search for water soluable drugs that are emitted. Some drugs are more fat soluable and work their way out more slowly, and can be detected as well with different thresholds and methods to check for them. Some atomic elements attach to our bones, look up what testing has found for what can replace calcium in children. (those kids have nuclear waste in their body for their lives because of it, with little of it getting excreted once part of the skeletal system)

              Back on topic, few women would flush The Pill; that is simply too valuable--there are but a few cultures preserve their urine to take that value judgement a step further--such as the tribes in Siberia and related areas that save urine emitted from after having ingested amanita muscarias. Get enough bottles of urine and you can get some of that birth control back, but yuck.

              That tactic would work with many other examples, and our excretions could actually be distilled and fractionated to pull out valuable drugs still in an active form (if not the same exact molecule--changes do occur that are pharmacologically active for many substances ingested)-- but that would not be profitable (nor logistically feasible) to do as opposed to treating it as toxins for clearing via filtration and later disposal of a giant mess of contaminants, and also just simply compared to selling more pills, so instead we flush our wastes away since that's pretty darn convenient for everyone involved.

              Just about any time you hear about this sort of problem, it's presumed that we are flushing what we've ingested, not what was in the bottle -- UNLESS it has to do with antibiotics, then that conversation is about people flushing that bottle of unused pills as opposed to natural excretion.

              Old pills you may have laying around and don't know what to do with--it is best to either throw them away (and let that landfill get poisoned over time by everyone throwing chemicals out), or burn it -- flushing it is an immediate way to put the strongest type of poison available in pill form right into the environment we live in, the other methods at least diminish the immediate effect if the landfills are lined or the incineration breaks it down to less harmful chemicals that then get emitted out a smoke stack in a far less harmful (or beneficial) form.

              **The best way is to try to get what you need and use it as required, but that is not always possible; flushing active medications and paints and industrial chemicals down the toliet is never a viable method even if it is very convenient because it eliminate the chance of kids or pets getting at it. It just leads to the chance of poisoning something else as opposed to something you know. Our water system is fragile and my tax dollars for water treatment shouldn't go into fixing problems caused by ignorance and what was more convenient to someone else.

              *I am not an expert
              **unfounded heavy-handed and biased opinion regarding ingestion and disposal tactics of stuff

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by charon on Monday April 10 2017, @02:58AM

        by charon (5660) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:58AM (#491473) Journal

        I'm sure if we wait a while, my favorite AC will drop by and tell you if you slap your kids around enough they won't dare have sex for fear of your wrath.

        But while we're waiting, I'll point out that human teenagers have been having sex for... oh, round about 200,000 years, and parents haven't figured out how to stop it yet. It's not degeneracy, it's being a living organism. (Oh, those slutty protists [wikipedia.org], always fucking like the wanton strumpets they are). Having them go about it slightly intelligently and with protection from life ruining consequences is the best we can hope for.

      • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @06:27AM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @06:27AM (#491519)

        So if people want to be degenerate, go do it somewhere else and be quiet about it. Fuck a new girl/guy everynight? Thats fine just don't talk about it. But stop pushing this shit on my kids, because you wont be the one dealing with the consequences.

        Awww, would you look at that?
        Poor little snowflake is throwing a tantrum because he can't get a safespace.

        If contact with the real world is too much for your kids to handle, then you should withdraw them from the world and keep them cloistered instead. But you have no right to put everyone else's kids at greater risk because you can't force your own kids to conform to your ignorant, anti-science puritanism.

        • (Score: 1, Redundant) by tangomargarine on Monday April 10 2017, @02:37PM (3 children)

          by tangomargarine (667) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:37PM (#491643)

          your ignorant, anti-science puritanism.

          It's logically impossible to get an STD through sexual intercourse if one does not engage in sexual intercourse.

          --
          "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
          • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @04:52PM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @04:52PM (#491727)

            (a) red herring - it is anti-science puritanism to believe that handing out condoms increases the chance of sexually transmitted diseases
            (b) false - herpes transmission does not require sexual intercourse [hercampus.com]

            • (Score: 1, Redundant) by tangomargarine on Monday April 10 2017, @07:01PM (1 child)

              by tangomargarine (667) on Monday April 10 2017, @07:01PM (#491838)

              (b) false - herpes transmission does not require sexual intercourse

              Hey, it's almost like I specifically worded my reply to address that:

              It's logically impossible to get an STD through sexual intercourse if one does not engage in sexual intercourse.

              Yes, I'm already aware that you can get HIV through blood transfusions or being birthed from an HIV-positive mother. My point still stands -- not having sex is a great way to avoid getting STDs.

              --
              "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
              • (Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:32PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:32PM (#491873)

                Hey, it's almost like I specifically worded my reply to address that:

                So you decided to make a write completely meaningless response that had nothing to do with the post you were responding to.
                You are a real credit to this site.

                Congratulations on your successful public masturbation!!! And you didn't even catch an STD either.

      • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday April 10 2017, @06:31PM

        by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday April 10 2017, @06:31PM (#491809) Journal

        I presume I may be one of the few, but I hold men who sleep around with the same distain as women who do.

        Ah yes. The old "I justify my embarrassing and disappointing lack of sex by convincing myself that too much sex is a bad thing which makes me feel better about not getting laid. Then I go about preaching like a self-righteous douche bag to further convince myself and others of my convictions."

        PS, No one gives a shit what you think.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:23AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:23AM (#491448)

      The 1st vaccine was expensive and new with side affects. It was also the 1st approved genetically engineered vaccine. By pushing for it to be required for teens or put into state programs it becomes immune from lawsuits which would then be directed at the state. The company lobbied heavily for this. Probably continues to do so with the 2nd one... they want to make a lot of money and insure no lawsuits if anything goes wrong. They hyped the 1st one because only 20k died per year of the cancer which wasn't 100% traced back to HPV plus their version 1 only protected against about half the strains that caused the cancer. About 6 if I remember correctly, out of like 100+ strains of HPV - most are thought to be harmless; other than warts.

      Protected sex and other kinds of sex STILL spread HPV which might be of interest to the puritans in the USA.

      It is hard to have serious numbers when HPV can not be tested in men; only women. Yes, I read up about it long ago because I had it... but length of time is unknown because men can't be tested... so I may still have it. At least the woman who gave me it knows it is not the cancer version.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @05:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @05:54AM (#491515)

        > [...] men can't be tested [...]

        Men were tested for the report this topic is about.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:29AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:29AM (#491451)

      No "protection" will stop herpes. Herpes even spreads via high school wrestling, so keeping the underwear in place isn't going to save you. The same goes for various "non STD" things like Cytomegalovirus (CMV), a big cause of birth defects.

      Let's fix this idea that "women should be punished for having and enjoying sex". A better statement is that "people should be punished for sex outside of a relationship that they reasonably believe will last until death". That gets rid of the sexism and lets most married people enjoy sex.

      Sex... has consequences. Never forget that.

      • (Score: 1) by charon on Monday April 10 2017, @02:45AM (2 children)

        by charon (5660) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:45AM (#491462) Journal

        Let's fix this idea that "women should be punished for having and enjoying sex".

        Great idea, I couldn't agree more!

        A better statement is that "people should be punished for sex outside of a relationship that they reasonably believe will last until death". That gets rid of the sexism and lets most married people enjoy sex.

        Oh. I see now. You want to enforce your version of morality on everyone else. Should that sex be done in the dark solely for the purpose of procreation and with minimal enjoyment for either party? Guess I'll retract that earlier agreement.

        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @08:03AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @08:03AM (#491538)

          Civilization is all about enforcing morality on others. Without that... well, there are some people I dislike, so I'll just kill them.

          To various degrees, your rights normally stop when you mess with somebody else. That includes spreading disease, being unfaithful, and leaving children to grow up without both parents together.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:35PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @07:35PM (#491877)

            Civilization is all about enforcing morality on others. Without that... well, there are some people I dislike, so I'll just kill them.

            So instead you will use the threat of killing them to make them conform to your version of morality.
            You don't really understand what 'civilized' means, do you?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @09:02AM (#491556)

      > female birth control

      ...often decreases libido

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by kaszz on Monday April 10 2017, @02:22AM (1 child)

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday April 10 2017, @02:22AM (#491447) Journal

    Some things that may be good to know:
      * Cervarix prevents HPV 16, 18
      * Gardasil prevents HPV 6, 11, 16, 18
      * Gardasil-9 prevents HPV 6, 11, 16, 18, 31, 33, 45, 52, 58

    At least the first two is known to contain a aluminum containing adjuvant which carries some risk to trigger autoimmune diseases. Have a look at data for the swine flu "vaccine". Make the risk evaluation, as cancer isn't nice either. As always assume pharmaceutical industry are slimy psychopaths ready to walk over your body at any time.

    Females obviously benefit from these. But males may do so too, and the reason is oral cancer besides being a pain to have on your precious part. As for age, well with consistent condom usage etc, exposure may be avoided even at a later age. And if one bets on vaccination, why use the product with less protection for the same financial pain and health risk?

    A very slight higher risk of clotting is present so drink some alcohol as a preventive measure?

    Make an informed decision, and YMMV!

    Some sources:
    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) (May 2010). "FDA licensure of bivalent human papillomavirus vaccine (HPV2, Cervarix) for use in females and updated HPV vaccination recommendations from the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP)". MMWR. Morbidity and mortality weekly report. 59 (20): 626–629. PMID 20508593.

    "Silgard European Public Assessment Report". European Medicines Agency. September 25, 2009

    FDA News Release, December 10, 2014
    FDA approves Gardasil 9 for prevention of certain cancers caused by five additional types of HPV
    https://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm426485.htm [fda.gov]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:35AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:35AM (#491455)

      wow, thank you - very informative!

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:59AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:59AM (#491496)

    "42 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 59 "
    I thank God I'm 60 and the only one that doesn't have it, from TFA.

    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday April 10 2017, @10:53AM (1 child)

      by butthurt (6141) on Monday April 10 2017, @10:53AM (#491576) Journal

      From the article:

      [...] 7.3 percent of Americans ages 18 to 69 were infected orally with HPV, and 4 percent were infected with the high-risk strains that can cause cancers of the mouth and pharynx.

      Why they cut off the genital tests at age 59 rather than 69, I don't know after reading page 6 of the report. Perhaps it's somewhere on https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nhanes [cdc.gov].

      • (Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday April 10 2017, @08:14PM

        by cmdrklarg (5048) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 10 2017, @08:14PM (#491911)

        cut off the genital tests

        I shall opt OUT of those tests, thanks.

        --
        The world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @03:31PM (#491665)

    2D>3D everytime

  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:38AM

    by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday April 11 2017, @01:38AM (#492059) Journal

    As my information on HPV vaccine seemed to be of interest. There are some developments on a Herpes vaccine too (HSV):

    First off, Duke University investigates the possibility to eradicate the HSV-1 by figuring out how to switch all copies of the virus in the host from latency to their active stage at the same time, rather than the way the virus copies normally stagger their activity stage, leaving some dormant somewhere at all times, conventional antiviral drugs might kill the entire virus population, since they can no longer hide in the nerve cells. One class of drugs called antagomir [wikipedia.org] could serve this purpose. (report dated 2008)

    HSV-2 vaccine: Development of vaccine against herpes simplex virus type 2 infection [researchweb.org]

    We have developed a new strategy to develop a vaccine against herpes simplex virus 2 (HSV-2) infection. Based on observations that cross-reactive immune response from a previous HSV-1 infection does not provide protection against subsequent HSV-2 infection, and failed human vaccine studies with cross-reactive antigen, we suggest that a vaccine should contain the HSV-2 type-specific glycoprotein G (gG -2). We have shown that a prophylactic gG-2 vaccine provides complete protection in a mouse model.

    Reports so far:
    Glycoprotein G of herpes simplex virus 2 as a novel vaccine antigen for immunity to genital and neurological disease. (2012)
    Anti-glycoprotein g antibodies of herpes simplex virus 2 contribute to complete protection after vaccination in mice and induce antibody-dependent cellular cytotoxicity and complement-mediated cytolysis. (2014)
    Novel rat models to study primary genital herpes simplex virus-2 infection. (2015)
    The Cholestanol-Conjugated Sulfated Oligosaccharide PG545 Disrupts the Lipid Envelope of Herpes Simplex Virus Particles. (2015)
    Vaccination with the Secreted Glycoprotein G of Herpes Simplex Virus 2 Induces Protective Immunity after Genital Infection. (2016)
    Final report to be delivered in 2017-12-31.

    As a side note HIV virus also hides in cells, thus antagomir class of drugs could perhaps have a wider use range (but probable not). And some viruses can be whacked by vaccines after infection whereby the immune defense recognize the offenders and wipes them out.

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