Betanews reports on an announcement from Microsoft regarding its Windows 10 operating system:
[...] come May 9 it will stop updating the original release, known as 1507. The software giant had intended to stop supporting that release on March 26, but pushed back the deadline.
additional coverage:
Computerworld
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Microsoft Kills Windows Vista On April 11: No Security Patches, No Hot Fixes, No Support, Nada
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One of Microsoft's most hated operating systems (Windows ME is difficult to beat on that front) is destined to die in less than a month.
Windows Vista, launched to a less-than-stellar reception on January 30, 2007, saw most of its support stopped back in 2012. On April 11 this year the hammer finally falls. Microsoft warned Vista users that their systems could be compromised by an attacker in the future, especially as Security Essentials support has also now ended for the operating system.
"Windows Vista customers will no longer receive new security updates, non-security hotfixes, free or paid assisted support options, or online technical content updates from Microsoft," Redmond said.
"Microsoft has provided support for Windows Vista for the past 10 years, but the time has come for us, along with our hardware and software partners, to invest our resources towards more recent technologies so that we can continue to deliver great new experiences."
My heart does ache for our brethren, the poor, huddled Windows masses.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @08:56PM (1 child)
I use Linux because like how a tight penguin cloaca feels around my rigid cock.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday April 16 2017, @10:29PM
Some people think
That if they go too far
They'll never get back
To where the rest of them are
I might be crazy
But there's one thing I know
You might be surprised
At what you find out when ya go!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:05PM (5 children)
More than enough said
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @10:41PM (2 children)
No. Not enough said.
Billions and mortgages and families with blond hair are involved.
Not everything is non eating indian cow families and ancecstoral chineze families.
Microsoft is not asian. They should stop casing the neverending multiplication of whatever you wanna call it and die a singuler microsoft (evil nazi version 2) family death already.
Everybody else, eatinf kelloggs and and thinking ibm should get a clue and stop supporting the android fueled migration (of chinese risc construction) that is willfully destructive and profitable caled microsofd into china and the futher asia... lol.
Or do you really think the mobile phone chipset desaster called android was not brokerdd on windows and outlook?
Ha ha ha .. typed from second generation java chip ... aka ... i assume samsung android 2nd world war hardware...ewww
(Score: 3, Touché) by ticho on Sunday April 16 2017, @10:49PM (1 child)
I see the testing of next generation automated comment generation software is well under way. Judging by "quality" of this comment, there is still a lot of bugs to fix.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @12:06AM
Sry its not on the level of asimov ... else it would be sold.
Curious theres a reply tho ... considering this is not deleted( is this ur paid blog to inquire) ?
Wonderfull, sometimes? Is the bio A.I. java google cjip doesnt understand, yes...?
Maybe java is the new radioactif?
(Score: 2) by frojack on Monday April 17 2017, @03:36AM
All 18 remaining users of Vista will be completely disappointed.
Of course any machine capable or running Vista will run any random linux version so much better.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 3, Informative) by butthurt on Monday April 17 2017, @08:10AM
So those customers who want to have a fully patched Windows 10 will have to apply a major update (November, Anniversary or Creators)--and in around 18 months, will have to apply another major update. If those major updates cause breakage, they will find themselves in a quandary.
https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=%22creators%20update%22%20broke [duckduckgo.com]
(Score: 5, Informative) by tftp on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:20PM (17 children)
Support? Most of it consists of the battle between ways to turn the telemetry off and the ways to turn it back on. These days a careful user who is stuck with Windows runs Windows 7 with all the online updates switched off. The overall risk is lower this way. MS updates cannot be trusted anymore.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Lagg on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:56PM (15 children)
Shit, I'm still trying to figure out how to stop the fucking thing from forcefully restarting. I even did the suggested regedits. Telemetry at least has DisableWinTracking
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Sunday April 16 2017, @10:22PM (1 child)
I didn't know whether to mod that informative or funny. In reality it's kinda sad.
jasassin@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 0xE6462C68A9A3DB5A
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Lagg on Sunday April 16 2017, @10:47PM
Buzzard add +1 Schadenfreude pls
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
(Score: 5, Informative) by Zyx Abacab on Sunday April 16 2017, @11:46PM (5 children)
The way Windows 10 schedules and enforces updates is with a bunch of tasks in the "UpdateOrchestrator" group. You could use TASKSCHD.MSC to remove the "Reboot" task, but all your changes get nuked after a while.
Did you know that the Task Scheduler does not store its library in a sane way, like some sort of markup file? Rather, every scheduled task is stored as a binary file in a folder hierarchy right in the filesystem. It's like a shockingly-badly-designed version of Cron.
Anyway, if you disable the task, then navigate to "%WINDIR%\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator"...and delete the "Reboot" file...and create a directory named "Reboot"...it'll both prevent the reboots from happening, and the restoration mechanism from undoing your change.
It's completely insane that this works, if it still works. It's been a while since I switched to Linux. The last version I tried it with was build 14393.
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(Even so, please switch to Linux, if you can. With Windows 10, there are many more problems than just this.)
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Monday April 17 2017, @12:05AM
Thanks for the tip. Hopefully it still preserves the actual prompt to reboot since that's the only way it's obvious that you have queued updates (sigh). And sadly I would use Linux (and do for things that require sanity such as code) but among other things work and video games locks me into it still and will likely do so for at least another year.
http://lagg.me [lagg.me] 🗿
(Score: 3, Informative) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday April 17 2017, @01:37AM (2 children)
Sounds a lot like sytemd [freedesktop.org], actually.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Monday April 17 2017, @03:45AM
Snort...
systemd is clear-air transparent compared to windows 10.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 2) by Zyx Abacab on Monday April 17 2017, @04:26AM
Unlike Windows, Linux gives you choice: you can replace systemd with OpenRC or Minit, or just stick with SysVinit.
Heck, I'd like to see any swapping-out of low-level system components with Windows. That'd really be something.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Monday April 17 2017, @04:36AM
Hah. Yes, interesting to see if that still works. An old DOS trick was to make a directory with a particular name to prevent a file with the same name from being created. So for instance if you wanted Netscape Navigator to do session cookies but Netscape hadn't yet heard of session cookies, you could just go find cookies.txt, delete it, then make a directory named cookies.txt there. (On *nix you linked cookies.txt -> /dev/null instead but with DOS you had to be more creative sometimes.)
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Techwolf on Monday April 17 2017, @01:10AM (4 children)
A friend of mine got the same problem, his Blender renders take over a full day and there is no way to force windows to be in non-sleep or non-reboot state for over 9-20 hours. I did suggest to him that Benders runs on Linux better. Lets hope he is not deaf.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @10:03AM (1 child)
Sorry. That counts as a "Business use" of Windows 10. That is disallowed.
- Microshaft
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday April 17 2017, @02:12PM
I was reading on some forum (probably Youtube comments [youtube.com]) that even the Professional edition does not let you specify more than an 18 hour window without reboots.
(Score: 3, Funny) by tangomargarine on Monday April 17 2017, @03:15PM
I did suggest to him that Benders runs on Linux better.
Well don't leave us hanging, man! Has he told Microsoft to bite his shiny metal ass yet?
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @07:09PM
Surprise reboots during important work?
Remember, one can unplug the internet, (or disable wireless), whilst rendering.
Then the computer will not receive instructions form the mothership.
Problem solved.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @10:07AM (1 child)
Dude, get a spare HDD, plug it in, make it first bootable device, install Ubuntu, use it for one month.
Maybe Windows is good for games.
For everything else, Ubuntu is Good Enough(tm)
(Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday April 17 2017, @02:16PM
Unbuntu requires some tweaking [fixubuntu.com] to restore your privacy.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @01:56AM
On OSX disabling automatic updates is as simple as unchecking a box.
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:22PM (6 children)
All 10 owners of the OS are wondering what to do.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:45PM (1 child)
You poor dear, you've drunk the Kool-Aid. Didn't you realise? Microsoft owns the OS. Those who use it are the victims in an abusive relationship.
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Monday April 17 2017, @02:45AM
You're right, of course, and I realized this after I submitted it. I mean "owner" in the modern, non traditional sense of "not owner but licensee", which is about all you get nowadays for just about anything from an operating system to a coffee machine.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday April 17 2017, @08:33AM (2 children)
Where did that figure come from? A better estimate is that between 0.9% and 2.9% of installations are the original version of Windows 10.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/adduplex-data-shows-strong-windows-10-anniversary-update-rollout/ [digitaltrends.com]
Microsoft claim 400 million computers are being updated to the latest version. The previous major update had 91% uptake. Hence there could be around 4-13 million computers still running the 1507 version.
https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2017/04/11/introducing-edgehtml-15/ [windows.com]
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Monday April 17 2017, @08:57AM (1 child)
Where did that figure come from?
My imagination. That's where stuff usually comes from when you're making a joke. You sound pretty butthurt, butthurt....
(Score: 1) by butthurt on Monday April 17 2017, @09:21AM
I wasn't, but I am now that I understand that a joke was being made at my expense. Thanks for explaining.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @09:26AM
I know this is a geeky website, but it too far posting numbers in binary.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 16 2017, @11:50PM (3 children)
So if Win10 R1507 is not updated anymore. Then one will no longer have to bother with "You must download and install these 10 000 packages NOW" and then be forced to reboot-install-repeat ad tiredness. It's not like Microsoft products ever will be decently safe so it might in fact be a improvement.
Otherwise it seems like a pressure on users to go full in with the latest fifth colon spyware.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @12:19AM (2 children)
Given this refers to the initial release, how long until they obsolete Win10 SP1, SP2 and the just-unleashed SP3? (Yes, I know they claimed "no more version numbers", but try to remember where you stand if you're running the not-a-version-number Build 666 or whatever-the-hell each one is.)
Not that I honestly give a damn; I refuse to infect my computers with that shite. I just wanted to point out the stupidity of the not-a-version-number system that results if few people having a clue what actual version they're running.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bzipitidoo on Monday April 17 2017, @01:53AM
I keep 1 installation of Windows 10 available, and experiment on it, see how much crap I can uninstall, delete, block, and so on and still have it functioning. Almost all the cloud crap can be uninstalled. Have to bring up a "power shell", and enter
Get-AppxPackage *zunevideo* | Remove-AppxPackage
and the same command with *zunemusic*, *windowsstore* and a bunch of other things to get rid of them.
By accident I learned one way to prevent Windows 10 from updating is to not have enough free space. If there's less than 1G of hard drive space free, it can't do the major updates. It will complain of course, but it won't try to update.
Like Sun Tzu said, "know your enemy".
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday April 17 2017, @08:44AM
From the Computerworld article:
The company has pledged to support an individual edition, such as 1507, not for 10 years, as policy required for, say, Windows 7 or 8.1, but only for 18 months or so.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 17 2017, @12:29AM (2 children)
That what they call these days? English, a wonder of language, infinitely flexible.
(Score: 1) by butthurt on Monday April 17 2017, @12:47AM (1 child)
"Updates" or "patching" would have been better. Thanks.
(Score: 2) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday April 17 2017, @02:21PM
I was ably to update Windows XP pro in the past month (had to fix the clock first).
Probably no new patches.
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Monday April 17 2017, @07:15PM
Sing it with me:
Developers, developers, developers developers!