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Dmitry Bogatov (maintainer for several Debian packages and a TOR exit node) was arrested in Moscow, accused of endorsing violence and mayhem. The Debian project reacted by - besides giving their moral support - revoking access rights based on his private key as a precaution, in case the key gets compromised.
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Dmitry Bogatov (Debian Package and TOR Exit Node Maintainer) in Custody
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(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @01:45PM (3 children)
... Tor* exits YOU!
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* BTW, it's "Tor", not "TOR"; see the project FAQ.
(Score: 2) by requerdanos on Wednesday April 19 2017, @02:35PM (2 children)
it's "Tor", not "TOR"
On the other hand [wikipedia.org], the ambiguity is to be expected:
The name is derived from an acronym for the original software project name "The Onion Router"
Given that an acronym generally is spelled with all caps, naming their project after an ever-so-slight variation on an acronym for The Onion Router admits a tendency for people to call them, or their system, or parts of it, TOR. If they want their name change to stick, they could try something like "PrivacyBlaster 6000" or "Whack-a-node", which are significantly different from TOR, unlike "Tor".
At all events, TOR in this context clearly stands for The Onion Router, which is a reference to the Tor project, illustrating the confusion.
I wish the Tor folks all the best of luck in garnering mindshare for their administrative uppercase-to-lowercase transition of two of the letters of their name.
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @02:38PM (1 child)
It's still "Tor", not "TOR".
(Score: 2) by requerdanos on Wednesday April 19 2017, @04:57PM
It's still "Tor", not "TOR".
You are absolutely right. There's no arguing with that.
I also salute Tor for making freedom possible in many situations where it would not have previously been, and Bogatov for helping in the effort.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @02:09PM (6 children)
Did he make a tweet that rubbed the Donald the wrong way?
Is he gay?
Was it the Tor exit node?
Is Haskell really that offensive of a language?
Inquiring minds want to know.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @02:48PM (1 child)
Hard to say. He might have asked Trump to release his taxes.
Irrelevant. There are, by definition, no gay people in Russia.
I can't tell.
module Main where main :: IO ()main = putStrLn "Yes it is"
(Score: 1) by snmygos on Thursday April 20 2017, @05:56AM
How to be gay in Russia with these girls?
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:02PM
He was running a haskell powered website on tor which consisted of gay Trump/Putin porn
(Score: 2) by Soylentbob on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:08PM (1 child)
From the summary:
accused of endorsing violence and mayhem.
So, it was not Haskell, sexual orientation of any kind or insulting Trump...
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @04:11AM
Endorsing violence and mayhem?
So he's a Perl programmer then?
(Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:17PM
what did he do specifically?
Its Russia so what someone is charged with has some relationship to what they did but its a bit more fuzzy than we're used to in the west.
Right now he's being charged with inciting and organizing "antifa" riots and is using his TOR node as his defense.
Whats actually going on, well, who knows.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DannyB on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:02PM (4 children)
Was the arrest because he ran a Tor exit node? Or was it because of some traffic going through that node? Or was it because either Dimitry or some traffic going through his Tor node was offensive to the Russian government or at the risk of being redundant, offensive to Trump?
It was wise of Debian to consider his private keys to be compromised. Now suppose Dimitry is released and not prosecuted. Even if he uses new private keys and communicates with Debian project personnel, can he be considered compromised against his will?
I'll take that further. If you have a project with a code contributor that can be pressured by certain governments and their TLAs, (eg NSA, FBI, etc); then can you trust their contributions? Or maybe all code from any sources should be scrutinized since you can't know for sure who can be pressured to do what.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:07PM
A valid digital signature is merely one more checkbox on the "This looks OK" criteria.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:12PM (1 child)
can he be considered compromised against his will?
Debian has always been a security theater OS where the devs "need" 4096 bit keys despite source code coming from shar archives on usenet or rando ftp sites (sure most is guithub/gitlab now a days, but ...). Also they let in systemd, for goodness sakes. Default configs don't look like secure secure shell (or didn't recently)
https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html [github.io]
Its hard to decide is spending time in prison would make security theater apply or not.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Thursday April 20 2017, @08:53AM
> source code coming from shar archives on usenet or rando ftp sites
If it's been read by someone competent in the language, that can mitigate the fact that it changed hands in an insecure way. Not to say that the Debian maintainers necessarily do such auditing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @01:40AM
The government may want to punish the one they think is responsible for the post. At the same time they get to punish people for contributing TOR exit nodes that let other evade their claws. Running a server inside the TOR network is more likely to go under the radar for this kind of government apparatus.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:06PM (2 children)
...Sjoerd Simons, Michael Biebl, Marco d'Itri and Martin Pitt?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:17PM
They weren't living at the power center of an actual dictatorship.
(Score: 3, Funny) by letssee on Thursday April 20 2017, @11:06AM
Way to go! Wishing someone in prison (in russia none the less!) because they took some decisions you don't like. On a volunteer project. For free.
It's a miracle *anyone* wants to do debian maintenance work considering the amount of bile that gets heaped upon you for every decision you make.
Oh how I wish we could go back to the nineties, before the endless september. Of course there were heated debates and flamewars back then but nothing compared to the indiscriminate *hatred* spewing forth from disgruntled complainers everywhere.
Please start your own systemd-free distro. And find out the question where to spend your time is a very pressing one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:51PM (8 children)
Never volunteer to work on free software for it is a thankless job and you will go to jail.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @06:35PM (2 children)
In my experience, corporations get to market quickly on the backs of FOSS, refuse to contribute back, and then take their profits to write proprietary replacements once a strong foothold has been achieved.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by butthurt on Wednesday April 19 2017, @11:06PM
Not to say that doesn't happen, but the owners of proprietary software occasionally liberate it. Netscape, Solaris and StarOffice come to mind.
Some corporations do give back by contributing to existing FOSS projects:
The top 10 companies, which employ kernel developers to contribute to the Linux kernel, make up nearly 57 percent of the total changes to the kernel.
-- https://www.linux.com/blog/top-10-developers-and-companies-contributing-linux-kernel-2015-2016 [linux.com]
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday April 20 2017, @01:23AM
And they also get the cold hand later on.. Non grata.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:30PM (4 children)
I'll believe it when I see Lennart behind bars. I'll even get you a beer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:18PM (3 children)
Reiser is behind bars, thought he was God's Gift to Linux. Funny how that worked out for him.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @10:08PM (2 children)
Are you fat? Apparently all that salt is likely to make you eat too much...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @12:40AM (1 child)
Do you know where you are? Or was that a retorical question?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @06:29AM
It was a joke, its up to you to cope in society with your mental issues. Everyone has something...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @12:26AM (3 children)
sounds like government to me. clueless and violent.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Thursday April 20 2017, @12:59AM (2 children)
What exactly, in its recent actions, makes you think that the Russian government is "clueless"?
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Thursday April 20 2017, @09:07AM (1 child)
When originally confronted with the allegations, Mr Kadyrov's spokesman Alvi Karimov said it was not possible that gays had suffered abuse because homosexuals "don't exist" in Chechnya.
"You cannot arrest or repress people who just don’t exist in the republic," said Mr Karimov.
-- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/20/chechen-leader-ramzan-kadyrov-denies-arrest-abuse-gays/ [telegraph.co.uk]
Russian news outlets are having trouble reporting exactly which image of the Internet's many Putin-gay-clown memes is now illegal to share.
-- https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/04/05/its-now-illegal-in-russia-to-share-an-image-of-putin-as-a-gay-clown/ [washingtonpost.com]
(Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday April 20 2017, @05:21PM
That's not being clueless...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20 2017, @04:32PM
for the New World Order. They're continuing the job the Nazis among others carried out before to find out just how much all kind of abuse people can tolerate. Russia isn't going anywhere but China is rising fast. Soon we all will sing their songs and salute their flag.
"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." -- George Orwell