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posted by n1 on Friday May 26 2017, @07:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the all-your-base dept.

Windows 10 China Government Edition is a modified version of Windows 10 Enterprise Edition, created in collaboration with the Chinese government over the past two years. This version supposedly boasts bespoke high security for the government and stated-owned entities, while retaining the defining features of Windows 10.

Source: Windows Central

A Microsoft spokesperson said that this is the first time Microsoft has built a custom version of Windows for China.

Source: Fortune

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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday May 26 2017, @07:53PM (1 child)

    by edIII (791) on Friday May 26 2017, @07:53PM (#516094)

    This version supposedly boasts bespoke high security for the government and stated-owned entities, while retaining the defining features of Windows 10.

    I thought the defining features of Windows 10 was all that telemetry, I mean, connections to the cloud and Cortana. Okay, assuming there are positive defining features of Windows 10, is China saying they believe Microsoft can secure an operating system?

    Suuuure... :)

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    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by looorg on Friday May 26 2017, @07:58PM

      by looorg (578) on Friday May 26 2017, @07:58PM (#516098)

      One would think all those "telemetry features" are still in there, they just added a CC in the report function to send it to the Chinese.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @07:54PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @07:54PM (#516095)

    Nice start but if you really want to screwup the Chinese give the Powerpoint.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @08:14PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @08:14PM (#516104)

    Why wouldn't China just make its own State-owned OS, probably Linux-based? Is there an annual LAN party amongst the Politburo?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Grishnakh on Friday May 26 2017, @08:23PM (7 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday May 26 2017, @08:23PM (#516111)

      It's a good question: why would China want to trust their government secrets to an OS made by an American company with strong ties to the NSA?

      My theory: humans are generally incompetent. As you say, a Linux-based OS would make a lot more sense for them, and for any country's government really, since it can all be audited and built yourself from components not tied to any government, and customized any way you want; you just need some competent programmers to do it for you, which you'd think a large government wouldn't have trouble hiring domestically. So, in conclusion, I think the general failure of Linux to get very far with governments simply proves my assertion: humans are generally incompetent. This is just one small data point showing again why we'll never be an advanced civilization.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @08:53PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @08:53PM (#516118)

        ... that when humanity finally achieves civilization (advanced or otherwise), it won't involve any government.

      • (Score: 2) by turgid on Friday May 26 2017, @09:02PM (3 children)

        by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 26 2017, @09:02PM (#516122) Journal

        My theory is that they have a few million machines running this version of Windows which Trumppence and the useful idiots will monitor remotely. Meanwhile, they'll be doing their real work on proper computers.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Friday May 26 2017, @09:12PM (2 children)

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday May 26 2017, @09:12PM (#516128)

          I'm sorry, that's ridiculous. It sounds nice, and shows you have a real hope for humanity, but it's just ridiculous, like any conspiracy theory: for it to be true, it requires a level of complexity and coordination between people and competence that simply is not realistic in the real world. Occam's Razor holds here: the simplest explanation is the most likely, and that's my prior assertion, that humans are simply bumbling and incompetent, and therefore doomed to be an evolutionary dead-end.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by turgid on Friday May 26 2017, @09:24PM (1 child)

            by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 26 2017, @09:24PM (#516138) Journal

            Don't burst my delicate little bubble. I still live in the hope that the human race might escape from this rock and form self-sustaining colonies off planet. It's not looking good, is it?

            • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday May 26 2017, @09:44PM

              by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday May 26 2017, @09:44PM (#516147)

              No, it really isn't. Sorry.

              The best I can tell you is that my personal theory is that we're in the parallel universe where humans are incompetent fuck-ups and will soon drive ourselves to extinction, but somewhere out there there's at least one parallel universe where humans did better, avoided some historical pitfall, and have managed to build a more advanced society and are at least in the process of starting to build offworld colonies and explore the galaxy.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Friday May 26 2017, @11:28PM (1 child)

        by Nerdfest (80) on Friday May 26 2017, @11:28PM (#516190)

        China does not want people running Linux as they won't have control over the logging, encryption, etc, or certainly not as much control. With the modified version of Windows, they have a back door into every machine, pretty much guaranteed.

        • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Saturday May 27 2017, @01:16AM

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Saturday May 27 2017, @01:16AM (#516225)

          We're talking about government computers here, not ones in peoples' homes or in companies. That's why it's called the "Windows 10 China Government Edition". With this one, Microsoft and the US government have a back door into every machine in the Chinese government, pretty much guaranteed. And the idea that a government making its own version of Linux for internal use wouldn't have control over logging or encryption is just insane.

    • (Score: 2) by nobu_the_bard on Friday May 26 2017, @08:31PM (1 child)

      by nobu_the_bard (6373) on Friday May 26 2017, @08:31PM (#516113)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Kylin [wikipedia.org]

      In 2013, Canonical reached an agreement with the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology of the People's Republic of China to co-create and release a Ubuntu-based OS with features targeted at the Chinese market.

      But what else are they going to use, Red Star? It's only available in Korean and skips even pretending to not be evil.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS [wikipedia.org]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @08:43PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @08:43PM (#516114)

    A Red Screen Of Death so it matches their flag, special low level drivers to keep webcams and microphones active, keylogging, and a hidden ethernet connection that won't trigger modem lights or be detected as traffic. Oh wait... the only difference is the RSOD.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday May 26 2017, @10:11PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 26 2017, @10:11PM (#516159) Journal

      a hidden ethernet connection that won't trigger modem lights or be detected as traffic

      Pigeon carriers or telepathy?

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    • (Score: 4, Funny) by Nerdfest on Friday May 26 2017, @11:27PM

      by Nerdfest (80) on Friday May 26 2017, @11:27PM (#516189)

      keep webcams and microphones active, keylogging

      I'm pretty sure that "Cortana" already does that.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by kaszz on Friday May 26 2017, @09:57PM (3 children)

    by kaszz (4211) on Friday May 26 2017, @09:57PM (#516153) Journal

    If anyone finds a copy of this Chinese Microsoft Windows 10. It might be a really good idea to grab a copy. Because it will most likely lack US telemetry, and not have Chinese either.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @11:59PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 26 2017, @11:59PM (#516201)

      Except those added by the NSA.

      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday May 27 2017, @02:39AM

        by kaszz (4211) on Saturday May 27 2017, @02:39AM (#516252) Journal

        Which the Chinese won't permit..

    • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Saturday May 27 2017, @03:15AM

      by butthurt (6141) on Saturday May 27 2017, @03:15AM (#516274) Journal

      The Neowin article says:

      As you might have guessed, telemetry is turned off [...]

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