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posted by n1 on Friday June 23 2017, @08:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the just-like-my-metal dept.

If you like your coffee black, you may be someone who prefers strong flavours, takes good care of their health, or just wants to drink their coffee the way it’s supposed to be drunk. 

Or, you may be a psychopath.

At least, that’s according to a new study published in the journal Appetite, which found a correlation between a love of black coffee and sadist or psychopathic tendencies.

The research surveyed more than 1,000 adults, asking them to give their food and flavour preferences. The participants then took a series of personality tests assessing antisocial personality traits, such as sadism, narcissism and psychopathy. 

The study, carried out by researchers at the University of Innsbruck, found that a preference for bitter flavours was linked to psychopathic behaviour.

The study missed a key, deciding factor: the coffee that psychopaths drink black is instant.


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  • (Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Friday June 23 2017, @08:57AM (16 children)

    by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 23 2017, @08:57AM (#529913)

    I see the date 2015.09.031 in the linked document. Still interesting read but can someone post link to the actual paper (w/o paywall)? Thanks.

    • (Score: 2) by moondrake on Friday June 23 2017, @09:00AM (14 children)

      by moondrake (2658) on Friday June 23 2017, @09:00AM (#529916)

      I posted a link below. You may be able to find it on sci-hub, just search using the doi.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:06PM (13 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:06PM (#529993)

        I checked, not worth it. I really am getting tired of these kind of "filler" research articles. It is just depressing to be reminded multiple times a day about the amount of taxpayer-funded misinformation being generated via p-hacking and the like.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 23 2017, @01:47PM (5 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 23 2017, @01:47PM (#530009) Journal

          Tired of filler articles, or tired of filler research, or both? After the claims that the majority of "research" these days is not reproducible, I suspect that most research is just filler. Fill up some lab rooms with students, let them get crazy with shit, then write a paper on whatever the students claim. Finally, try to pass that paper off as scientific research.

          • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @05:50PM (4 children)

            by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @05:50PM (#530115) Journal

            This one was submitted because it was a chance for geek-flavored levity.

            To me it's obvious that psychopaths are not the ones drinking black coffee, but rather nothing but distilled water. And they never blink.

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            • (Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:27AM (3 children)

              by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:27AM (#530334) Homepage

              Sweetners and other flavorings are processed shit and even the ones that aren't can chemical-up the taste of your coffee.

              I approach coffee like I approach my beers - I want them to be dark, bold, and bitter because the harsher they taste, the more awesome the buzz. You could argue that there is a strong correlation between strong sensualism and psychopathy, but I'll leave that one to the eggheads for now.

              My personal preference is Starbucks Venti black iced coffee with no ice. No ice means that I get more coffee at no additional charge (though some cheap-ass baristas will stubbornly refuse to fill it all the way to the top, but those are few and far between) and there's no sweetner or other crap to shit-up the flavor. They also hand out free drinks for nothing, as an example I ordered a Venti, got a Treinta, and got it for free since they technically fucked up the order. I don't drink hot coffee because I don't have much time to chug it on the way to work in the morning and I want to chug it now without burning myself. I reach for the 7-11 coffee only when desperate, as it tastes of cardboard. I used to brew my own but a then-neighbor of mine named Fuckhead moved in and even though I keep my place spotless, Fuckhead didn't bother to clean his at all and his pet roaches crawling into my kitchen from next-door preferred to get into my coffee maker to feed on loose grinds and lay their egg-cases in its reservoir.

              Some will call me a consumer whore for preferring Starbucks coffee. Some will lambast my taste in coffee because many nerds are also coffee snobs. To all who slam my taste in mainstream consumer coffee, fuck you. The only coffee which should have additives is Irish coffee.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:49AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:49AM (#530350)

                Roaches, coffee pots, blah blah blah. That sucks - been there, done that. Forget all the fucking chemicals and shit. Forget the pest control guy. Fuck Orkin and all the rest. Boric acid. Buy the little 1 pound plastic bottles of boric acid. Snip the top off the little spout, and practice squeezing the bottle to produce a cloud of dust. You may have to shake the bottle now and then, to loosen the dust. When you can produce a little cloud of dust, start looking at your walls, ceiling, floor, electrical fixtures, plumbing. Any place you can find a crack where a fucking bug can hide, put the spout to the crack, and dust it. No kids? Good. Remove everything from your shelves, remove any paper liners on those shelves, and dust them. Put clean liner paper back, to put your food and dishes on. You don't clean up the dust, you just leave it.

                Roaches are actually pretty clean animals. Kinda like people, they go about the business of foraging food, then they come back to their cozy little homes, and clean themselves. Like dogs or cats, they use their mouths to groom themselves. All that icky boric acid that they've walked through to find food has to go. That means they lick, and ingest, some of that dust. They're dead, dead, dead soon after.

                Keep your home dusty with boric acid, the roaches will disappear. You'll see new roaches in several days - those are the eggs layed by the roaches you've already killed. Just wait them out, they'll get dusty, clean themselves, then die. You may see another wave of roaches in several days again - and likewise they'll die.

                When you haven't seen a roach in about three weeks, they are gone, and they won't come back.

                Orkin can't make that claim. They kill the current population, but they don't touch the new generation.

                Boric acid works, if slowly. Nothing else will get rid of the roaches.

                • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday June 24 2017, @01:38AM

                  by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday June 24 2017, @01:38AM (#530375) Homepage

                  Damn, the Donald Trump troll's perfected the personality algorithm.

                  We are at the mercy of machines! I will fight you until my dying breath, AI!

              • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:52AM

                by epitaxial (3165) on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:52AM (#530452)

                You can't be that much of a coffee snob if you use a drip coffee maker.

        • (Score: 2) by moondrake on Friday June 23 2017, @02:30PM (6 children)

          by moondrake (2658) on Friday June 23 2017, @02:30PM (#530027)

          So after you wrote this, I read it.

          Psychology is not my field, and I am somewhat prejudiced in that I generally do not like the methodology in psychology (but some of that is probably inevitable when working with human behavior).

          While I see some short-comings in their approach, they acknowledge that for the most part. In the end, we are just left with a weak correlation between preference of what people perceive as bitter, and questions that attempt to judge whether such people are more likely to have traits that are slightly socially frowned upon (its a very long way to true psychopaths I think). The statistics seem reasonable (though I disagree with their hypothesis formulation). What p-value hacking are you talking about? If this where my field, and if I have not missed something, I say no reason why such a study should not be published (whether I would fund it is another matter, but they seem to have not gotten specific funding for this, but I agree that they are probably employed on tax payer money).

          So enlighten us, what is so bad about this study?

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday June 23 2017, @04:20PM (4 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 23 2017, @04:20PM (#530066) Journal

            In the end, we are just left with a weak correlation between preference of what people perceive as bitter, and questions that attempt to judge whether such people are more likely to have traits that are slightly socially frowned upon (its a very long way to true psychopaths I think).

            The problem is that if you look at enough combinations, you will find such weak correlations by random chance. If you look at one potential combination and find a correlation that has a 1 in 20 chance of appearing randomly, then you might have a significant correlation. If you look at 1000 combinations, you'll expect find 50 such 1 in 20 spurious correlations merely by random chance. At that point, merely finding correlations is no longer good enough.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:13AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:13AM (#530329)

              merely finding correlations is no longer good enough.

              It was never good enough. Imagine if Kepler stopped at "orbital velocity of Mars is correlated with distance from sun, and also the color of the leaves". Or Newton stopped at "acceleration due to gravity is correlated with the distance between the objects, and also their albedo". I really do not care if you found a correlation, there are unlimited number of real, actual correlations that are of no use to anyone. Then on top of this they are too cheap to make sure they find those, but p-hack into "fake"/transient ones. If you find a correlation and think it is interesting, do the next step and figure out what process could explain the actual relationship. With research like this they just stop at the correlations and get stuck there for decades. It is just collecting correlations.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:28AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:28AM (#530335)

                I mean appreciate these papers for what they are: homework assignments you need to do to graduate.

              • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday June 24 2017, @07:20AM (1 child)

                by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday June 24 2017, @07:20AM (#530497) Journal

                Planet speed is indeed strongly correlated with brightness: The closer the planet is to the sun, the more light it receives from the sun.

                --
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                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @03:47PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @03:47PM (#530590)

                  Yes I was trying to use non-negligible correlations as an example.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:19AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:19AM (#530330)

            I really don't remember from earlier since it was so standard. I will guess the usual though:
            1) not blinded
            2) claiming x is related to y and not showing a scatterplot of x vs y
            2) using dynamite charts or the equivalent tables ( I do remember they didn't even bother to make plots)
            3) misinterpreting statistical significance in at least one of hundreds of ways
            4) not coming up with any real model for what is going on, just rejecting the hypothesis of "no correlation" for that specific group of people since there was no well defined population (I think I remember it was mechanical turk samples...)

            This is just run of the mill blab.

    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday June 23 2017, @09:05AM

      by kaszz (4211) on Friday June 23 2017, @09:05AM (#529919) Journal

      DOI: 10.1016/j.appet.2015.09.031

      Just type the DOI into the "scientific hub". It can be found by converting these hexnumbers to binary:
      \x68\x74\x74\x70\x73\x3A\x2F\x2F\x73\x63\x69\x2D\x68\x75\x62\x2E\x61\x63\x2F

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @08:57AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @08:57AM (#529914)

    Sweetened with the blood of my enemies.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @09:19AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @09:19AM (#529924)
      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday June 23 2017, @10:20AM

        by Gaaark (41) on Friday June 23 2017, @10:20AM (#529946) Journal

        LOVE oglaf! :)

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      • (Score: 5, Funny) by KiloByte on Friday June 23 2017, @11:14AM

        by KiloByte (375) on Friday June 23 2017, @11:14AM (#529969)

        You should have included a warning when linking to a SFW Oglaf page.

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  • (Score: 1) by moondrake on Friday June 23 2017, @08:58AM (1 child)

    by moondrake (2658) on Friday June 23 2017, @08:58AM (#529915)

    Hmm...this story was in the news nearly 2 years ago...

    Original publication is here (probably pay-walled):
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666315300428 [sciencedirect.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:39AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:39AM (#530442)

      Yea, I recall reading this a few years back as well. Though the article I read also included gin and tonic, along with coffee. I first read it with a glass of gin in hand (and yes, I drink my coffee black).

      Honestly, with the growing despair over what passes for normal as more and more of the lowest tiers of society breed faster and faster, I'm not sure anyone should be worried about being a psychopath anyway. With the kind of stupid some people exhibit quite publicly, anyone NOT wishing to see explicit pain inflicted might need to have his head examined. If you've no idea what I'm talking about, go work in customer service for a week (or perhaps a few hours).

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by fraxinus-tree on Friday June 23 2017, @09:15AM (18 children)

    by fraxinus-tree (5590) on Friday June 23 2017, @09:15AM (#529923)

    drinking coffee is psychopathy anyways.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday June 23 2017, @10:06AM (2 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday June 23 2017, @10:06AM (#529942) Journal

      <blackquote>Psychopaths Drink Their Coffee Black</blackquote>

      What a coincidence, I'm drinking their coffee black too.

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      • (Score: 2) by hemocyanin on Saturday June 24 2017, @01:31AM (1 child)

        by hemocyanin (186) on Saturday June 24 2017, @01:31AM (#530371) Journal

        I like extra cream and extra sugar. My wife drinks hers black. Now I understand.

        (bonus, responders can make much of the possible double entendres)

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @02:23AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @02:23AM (#530389)

          My wife drinks her black.

          All respect for married Central African descendents who like extra sweet and creamy coffee.
          (what a missing letter can do)

    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by VLM on Friday June 23 2017, @12:03PM (14 children)

      by VLM (445) on Friday June 23 2017, @12:03PM (#529981)

      At every workplace I've been to, coffee is boomer.

      Other groups drink coffee but none as much or as addicted as boomers.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday June 23 2017, @12:10PM (13 children)

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday June 23 2017, @12:10PM (#529983) Journal

        Don't worry, millennials are making coffee "cool" again:

        How Cold Brew Changed the Coffee Business [nytimes.com]

        Cold brew was still a relatively niche market until 2015, when Starbucks introduced the drink in a number of stores; it is now available at every one of its more than 13,000 locations in the United States, 800 of which also offer nitro. It’s a coffee with both mass-market appeal and indie credibility. Today, you can find cold brew at a coffee shop where everything is meticulously crafted by hand, and at a Dunkin’ Donuts.

        The drink’s range is expanding even more rapidly when you count canned, bottled and packaged coffees, called “ready to drink” within the industry. You can get that New Orleans-style iced coffee in a school-lunch-size milk carton, or that nitro cold brew in what looks like a beer can. Ready-to-drink, which has long been available in Whole Foods and other upscale markets, is now appearing everywhere. As of last month, you could find bottles of Slingshot Coffee, made by a small-batch company in Raleigh, N.C., at nearly 250 Target stores in the South.

        What is cold brew? Essentially, it is a preparation. You steep coffee grounds in room-temperature water (which isn’t “cold,” strictly speaking) for six to 20 hours (depending on the recipe) to make a concentrate that can be diluted with water and served over ice. By giving up heat, you have to add time.

        Cold brew is more than a slowed-down version of hot coffee; it’s a noticeably different product. Hot water will bring out the acids in coffee, a characteristic that professional tasters call “brightness.” Cold water doesn’t but still gets the full range of mouthfeel and sweetness. The absence of acidity in cold brew is even more pronounced when compared with the iced coffee from the dark ages (of a few years ago), when it was almost always made with hot coffee that was chilled in the refrigerator. When hot coffee cools, even more acids develop, many of them unpleasantly harsh.

        These things have started to appear at the supermarkets I frequent at like $5-10 a pint (for undiluted concentrate, as far as I can tell).

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:54PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:54PM (#530013)

          "I'll have a large coffee, black."

          "Hot?"

          "Uh... yes."

          Honestly, I thought it was a joke the first time DD asked me this. After waking up a bit I thought they meant iced coffee. I guess it makes sense that someone would eventually try sun tea with coffee though.

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @02:30PM (1 child)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @02:30PM (#530028) Journal

          "meticulously crafted by hand"

          Yes, they meticulously took a scoop, placed a measure in a tea bag, and made sun tea. Except they were lamaist monks. In Tibet. At 13,000ft. And the water was meltwater from sacred glaciers. And the brew was carefully carried down precarious mountain paths by smiling children to an airfield, where a tri-motor prop plane running on bespoke biofuel carried to Starbucks facilities on the mainland where workers singing happy tunes unloaded it with velvet gloves. :)

          Or you could get any old coffee and use it to make the sun tea they're talking about. The bitter tones you get from low-end coffees don't transfer so well that way.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:33AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:33AM (#530337)

            I was reading one of those airplane magazines one time and someone was selling an object crafted only be people who were totally nude except that they wore black gloves, or something like that.

        • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday June 23 2017, @03:21PM (5 children)

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday June 23 2017, @03:21PM (#530043)

          Yeah, but the Millennials won't drink the nasty Folgers crap that the Boomers are making at the office in the shared coffee pot. They'll only drink something fancy (and I don't blame them; regular-brand coffee is utter crap).

          • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday June 23 2017, @04:46PM (4 children)

            by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday June 23 2017, @04:46PM (#530076) Journal

            I have some off brand Folgers (the kind you get at Family Dollar that's like $5 instead of $6.50). I should cold brew it and sell it to post-Millennials.

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            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @05:54PM (3 children)

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @05:54PM (#530116) Journal

              Slap the core key words "sustainable" and "organic" and "fair trade" on the label and you'll be able to charge a larger mark-up.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:18PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @05:18PM (#530092)

          Meh. If you want to make millennial hipster coffee, you need one of these: Chemex [chemexcoffeemaker.com].

          Actually, after the old coffee maker gave up the ghost I got one for the hell of it. Can't say I'm able to taste whatever difference I'm supposed to be able to taste, but it's at least easier to clean. Official Chemex filters are a bit expensive, but I don't see any reason why cheap ones won't work.

        • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday June 23 2017, @06:59PM (2 children)

          but one cannot buy hot coffee.

          At Starbucks in Portland, a hot coffee is $2.25 but you can't use food stamps.

          At most grocery stores around here, one can buy Stumptown cold brew for $4.00 - and you can pay with food stamps.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @08:57PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @08:57PM (#530233)

            Interesting retort, thank you MDC. Hope all is well.

            Coldbrew is great stuff btw. So low-carbon :P

            • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday June 23 2017, @10:46PM

              It's dependent on a background check. My background is a multitude of sins.

              When the recruiter mentioned it, I replied "I'm going to flunk your background check" then detailed my life of crime. I also told him that I have Bipolar-Type Schizoaffective Disorder. He didn't seem concerned that I was mentally ill.

              The Americans with Disabilities Act forbids job and housing discrimination against the mentally ill. But they can still choose not to hire me because of my conduct, even if it was caused by my illness.

              He discussed my rap sheet with a director, and said it would only be a problem if my crimes would affect my work. He gave the example of a candidate for a job driving cars who had a history of DWI.

              I asked for a metric fuckton of money. The recruiter said "That's in the right ballpark."

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  • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Friday June 23 2017, @09:32AM (5 children)

    by MostCynical (2589) on Friday June 23 2017, @09:32AM (#529930) Journal
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @10:03AM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @10:03AM (#529939)

      Let's have a cuppa.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @05:57PM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @05:57PM (#530118) Journal

        It is the key ingredient in the Infinite Improbability Drive [wikia.com].

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        • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday June 24 2017, @07:34AM

          by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday June 24 2017, @07:34AM (#530500) Journal

          No, it's a key ingredient to the finite improbability generator. And actually any hot liquid works; hot tea is just an example. Well, at least any hot liquid that doesn't destroy the mechanism; hot sulphuric acid probably wouldn't work. :-)

          Just read the page you linked to.

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Friday June 23 2017, @10:13AM (1 child)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday June 23 2017, @10:13AM (#529945) Journal

      OMG I like iced tea and I drink coffee black.

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  • (Score: 2) by Absolutely.Geek on Friday June 23 2017, @10:36AM (7 children)

    by Absolutely.Geek (5328) on Friday June 23 2017, @10:36AM (#529953)

    Lactose intolerance means coffee is black.

    To be fair though when milk is added to coffee it makes it smell really bad.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:28PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @01:28PM (#529998)

      Non-dairy creamer is a thing now...

      • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday June 23 2017, @07:02PM

        Sodium caseinate.

        When I was a little boy, I was allergic to casein. I once saw my mother burst into tears while trying unsuccessfully to find a non-dairy creamer she could put on my breakfast cereal.

        There's a beverage called Muscle Milk. It says "Contains No Milk" on the front of the can. It's also high protein - because of the casein added to it.

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:41AM (1 child)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 24 2017, @12:41AM (#530342) Journal

      Intolerance is evil. Must be stamped out.

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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday June 24 2017, @05:03AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday June 24 2017, @05:03AM (#530458) Journal
        I had heard that we were supposed to intolerate intolerance. Good to know that there's a reason why.
    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday June 24 2017, @01:17AM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday June 24 2017, @01:17AM (#530368)

      Try not using spoiled milk...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:45AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:45AM (#530447)

      Lactose intolerance means coffee is black...or made with soy milk, almond milk, rice milk, coconut milk, lactaid, non-dairy creamer...

      And don't worry, no matter how low-scale your coffee shop, rest assured some millenial will walk in and be appalled that you don't carry their particular choice of dairy substitute in coffee.

      • (Score: 2) by Absolutely.Geek on Saturday June 24 2017, @09:20AM

        by Absolutely.Geek (5328) on Saturday June 24 2017, @09:20AM (#530514)

        I use soy milk on my breakfast; but coffee just tastes better black....

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by TheRaven on Friday June 23 2017, @10:59AM (11 children)

    by TheRaven (270) on Friday June 23 2017, @10:59AM (#529966) Journal
    Cheap coffee tastes disgusting.

    You can disguise the taste of disgusting coffee by adding milk / cream / sugar / syrup / other crap.

    People who can afford decent coffee (and actually like coffee) drink it black.

    Psychopaths are more likely to be financially well off, as they have no problem exploiting other people to achieve wealth.

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    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday June 23 2017, @11:14AM (4 children)

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday June 23 2017, @11:14AM (#529971) Journal

      If you start drinking IPAs, you end up having no problem drinking black coffee.

      I did a quick search to try to compare the bitterness of IPAs and coffee, and found this:

      Love Beer And Coffee? You Might Be A Psychopath [popsci.com]

      That's right, I found another version of the 2015 TFA I did not read!

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @12:45PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @12:45PM (#529988)

        If you start drinking IPAs, you end up having no problem drinking black coffee.

        Nope, I still hate coffee. Hell I don't even like having to smell it when someone else is brewing it in the lunchroom.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Friday June 23 2017, @01:07PM

          by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday June 23 2017, @01:07PM (#529994) Journal

          I posted about cold brew coffee in another comment and submitted [soylentnews.org] it as well. The article says:

          Cold brew is more than a slowed-down version of hot coffee; it's a noticeably different product. Hot water will bring out the acids in coffee, a characteristic that professional tasters call "brightness." Cold water doesn't but still gets the full range of mouthfeel and sweetness. The absence of acidity in cold brew is even more pronounced when compared with the iced coffee from the dark ages (of a few years ago), when it was almost always made with hot coffee that was chilled in the refrigerator. When hot coffee cools, even more acids develop, many of them unpleasantly harsh.

          So maybe there is something for you in this new trend.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by schad on Friday June 23 2017, @12:49PM (1 child)

        by schad (2398) on Friday June 23 2017, @12:49PM (#529989)

        If you start drinking IPAs, you end up having no problem drinking black coffee.

        Perhaps, but if you really like the taste of coffee your beer of choice should probably be a stout or porter.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @12:14PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @12:14PM (#529984)

      Psychopaths are more likely to be financially well off, as they have no problem exploiting other people to achieve wealth.

      "psychopathic behaviour" as defined by the DSM is "anti-social personality disorder". Without a link to the actual paper we cannot be sure how they controlled for the tests. In contrast to psychopaths, many sociopaths present as so anxious, impulsive and quick to play victim when their aggression is challenged that anybody with any common sense avoids them completely. These individuals are the dregs of society and can rarely afford expensive coffee or anything else. This inverse correlation of yours seems highly unlikely.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 23 2017, @05:59PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 23 2017, @05:59PM (#530121) Journal

      That's right, but then it's about two different coffee drinking experiences. Drink it quickly in volume to wake up and get to work means any old thing will do. Sip and savor it while watching the morning mist on the pond should be done with quality coffee and drunk black.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @09:03PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @09:03PM (#530238)

      What are non-cheap coffee you recommend, that is good for cold-brew and available at Costco?

      • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:59AM

        by epitaxial (3165) on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:59AM (#530456)

        Don't know about Costco but I would try anything with a dark roast.

      • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Saturday June 24 2017, @11:51AM

        by TheRaven (270) on Saturday June 24 2017, @11:51AM (#530531) Journal
        No idea about CostCo, they don't operate in the country where I live. I usually drink a mocha and mysore mixture (actually, a mix of three bean types now, but with a similar taste). These are medium roast and give a rich flavour without too much bitterness. I tend to grind my own, though any reasonable coffee shop will sell this mixture and can grind it for you and make it with either a cafetiere or drip filter machine.

        In the US, Starbucks made coffee to compete with diner coffee, which was typically made with a drip filter machine and then left on a hot plate to burn for hours on end. This results in a disgusting burnt taste that you can closely approximate by using charcoal instead of coffee beans. You can get very good coffee in the US, but the average quality is appalling.

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    • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:57AM

      by epitaxial (3165) on Saturday June 24 2017, @04:57AM (#530455)

      I roast my own coffee beans and drink it with cream and sugar.

  • (Score: 1) by Revek on Friday June 23 2017, @01:32PM (1 child)

    by Revek (5022) on Friday June 23 2017, @01:32PM (#530004)

    a lactose intolerant diabetic who avoid artificial sweeteners.

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    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday June 24 2017, @07:59AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday June 24 2017, @07:59AM (#530503) Journal

      If I were a lactose intolerant diabetic avoiding artificial sweeteners, I'd just stick to tea.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by number6x on Friday June 23 2017, @03:12PM (4 children)

    by number6x (903) on Friday June 23 2017, @03:12PM (#530039)

    I like my coffee like my women...

    Bitter

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @06:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 23 2017, @06:49PM (#530166)

    Definitely a correlation: https://yakimapolice.org/great-turnout-coffee-cop/ [yakimapolice.org]

  • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Friday June 23 2017, @06:55PM (1 child)

    Psychotic people generally hallucinate and experience delusions. Psychopaths rain on your parade.

    I experience psychosis from time to time. I also drink my coffee black - but I'm not a psychopath.

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    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday June 24 2017, @08:01AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday June 24 2017, @08:01AM (#530505) Journal

      but I'm not a psychopath.

      That's what all psychopaths say. :-)

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