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posted by martyb on Friday July 07 2017, @04:07AM   Printer-friendly
from the bacteria-go-underground? dept.

An experiment using simulated Martian conditions has found that perchlorates bathed in UV light would quickly kill many potential Martian bacteria:

The hope for Martian life took another blow today. As Ian Sample at The Guardian reports, a new study suggests that in the presence of ultraviolet light, perchlorates, a class of chemical compounds widespread on Mars' surface, turn deadly for bacteria.

The presence of perchlorates isn't new. Viking 1 and 2 spacecraft detected perchlorates when they landed on the Martian surface in 1976, Jeffrey Kluger reports for Time. Since then, other spacecraft have confirmed the presence of the compounds. The 2009 Phoenix lander found that perchlorates make up between 0.4 and 0.6 percent of the soil sample it collected.

While perchlorates, which are composed of chlorine and oxygen, are toxic to humans, microbes typically love the stuff. And researchers have been optimistic that their presence could support bacterial life on Mars. As Kluger reports, some bacteria on Earth use naturally occurring perchlorate as an energy source. The compound also lowers the melting point of water, which could improve the chance of liquid water existing on the Red Planet.

But the latest study, published in the journal Scientific Reports [open, DOI: 10.1038/s41598-017-04910-3] [DX], suggests that in the presence of ultraviolet light perchlorate is not so microbe-friendly. Mars has a thin atmosphere, which often leaves its surface bathed in UV rays. And when heated, chlorine-based molecules like perchlorates cause heavy damage to living cells, reports Sarah Fecht at Popular Science.


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The primary instrument on the Viking landers, a gas chromatograph-mass spectrometer, used heat to try and find these molecules. That was big a mistake. Because of a now-known chemical in the soil perchlorate, the landers would have destroyed any organics in the process. NASA's Phoenix lander found perchlorate on Mars in 2008, Space.com notes.

Perchlorate on Mars.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @04:22AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @04:22AM (#535998)

    You need to remember that life generally Finds A Way. The possibility that microbes managed to evolve that don't take damage from UV'ed perchlorates is possible. Heck, I remember reading an article where they found microbes in Antarctica (iirc) that evolved to live on arsenic which is typically pretty lethal as well.

    • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday July 07 2017, @11:57AM

      by JoeMerchant (3937) on Friday July 07 2017, @11:57AM (#536078)

      Let's not import any Clorox resistant microbes from Mars to my bathroom, shall we?

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @12:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @12:07PM (#536079)

      If we're thinking about the same arsenic study, then it was retracted due to methodological flaws. Your point still stands, though.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Friday July 07 2017, @05:08AM (1 child)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 07 2017, @05:08AM (#536007) Journal

    So there won't be bacteria on the surface. Dig down and one may find good enough environ near the frozen water inside the soil.
    Perchlorates and water and whatever minerals the bacteria can find around.

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday July 07 2017, @07:35PM

      by kaszz (4211) on Friday July 07 2017, @07:35PM (#536240) Journal

      Had the same idea too. Next question will be when a massive underground probing will take place. And maybe perchlorates are not present all the way down.

  • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday July 07 2017, @08:41AM (2 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Friday July 07 2017, @08:41AM (#536044) Journal

    a new study suggests that in the presence of ultraviolet light, perchlorates, a class of chemical compounds widespread on Mars' surface, turn deadly for Earth bacteria.

    FTFY

    Oxygen is an extreme poison for anaerobic bacteria. A researcher from an anaerobic world might therefore conclude that the high concentration of oxygen on Earth suggests that life on Earth is highly improbable.

    Tests with randomly selected bacteria from earth will reveal that extreme heat kills off bacteria. But not all of them: [wikipedia.org]

    The most hardy hyperthermophiles live on the superheated walls of deep-sea hydrothermal vents, requiring temperatures of at least 90 °C for survival.

    So the bacteria don't just survive those hot temperatures, they requre them.

    If life evolved on Mars, it has evolved under Mars conditions. Therefore life forms on Mars will have evolved to live with perchlorates under UV. They possibly even need it to survive, just like we require the highly aggressive gas known as oxygen.

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday July 07 2017, @06:56PM (1 child)

      by bob_super (1357) on Friday July 07 2017, @06:56PM (#536216)

      We should look for life on Venus, because the conditions there are a lot more dynamic and energetic than Mars.
      It sure ain't gonna be life as we know it...

      • (Score: 2) by leftover on Friday July 07 2017, @07:07PM

        by leftover (2448) on Friday July 07 2017, @07:07PM (#536220)

        Hmmm ... That sounds like an idea for a science-fiction B slasher movie. "Just one baby Venusian Dragonfly kicked all our asses, then it went home to tell Mom"

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @08:44AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @08:44AM (#536045)

    "NASA Discovers New Space Age Antibiotic Big Pharma Doesn't Want You To Know About"

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @10:36AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @10:36AM (#536068)

      I'm pretty sure UV light strong enough to significantly enter your body would already kill you, even without the perchlorates.

  • (Score: 1) by DmT on Friday July 07 2017, @01:47PM (1 child)

    by DmT (6439) on Friday July 07 2017, @01:47PM (#536108)

    We should test that idea!
    Think about it - a planet sized laboratory! Extra resources in the future! All kinds of new knowledge for evolutionary science and biology.
    All that needs to be done is to send various bacteria to Mars.
    Leave a heritage for your children. Create aliens!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @02:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 07 2017, @02:52PM (#536128)

      Let's not and say we did. - NASA

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