Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by Fnord666 on Friday July 21 2017, @09:38PM   Printer-friendly
from the another-free-speech-victory dept.

Remember all the handwringing over the fact that games like Pokemon go brought people into their own parks? We covered it just a few weeks ago. Seems a lot of Soylentils were very much in favor of requirements for demanding pre-approval and fees from any company that may someday make any future profit from any citizen who wandered into a city park.

Trial Will Decide Whether Milwaukee Can Require Permits for Using Locations in Augmented Reality

Well it didn't take long for that to be slapped down by the courts.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/judge-blocks-law-regulating-where-augmented-reality-games-can-be-played/

A judge on Thursday declared as unconstitutional a local Wisconsin ordinance mandating that the makers of augmented reality games get special use permits if their mobile apps were to be played in county parks. The law—the nation's first of its kind—was challenged on First Amendment grounds amid concerns it amounted to a prior restraint of a game maker's speech. What's more, the law was seemingly impossible to comply with.


Original Submission

Related Stories

Trial Will Decide Whether Milwaukee Can Require Permits for Using Locations in Augmented Reality 47 comments

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

In August, Milwaukee's Lake Park saw swarms of Pokémon Go players, some of whom trampled and trashed the area, making a general nuisance of themselves. Not everyone behaved badly, as John Dargle, Jr, director of the Milwaukee County Department of Parks, Recreation & Culture, acknowledged in a letter [PDF] at the time. But a subset of thoughtless gamers created enough of a burden that Milwaukee County Supervisor Sheldon Wasserman proposed an ordinance [PDF] to require augmented reality game makers to obtain a permit to use county parks in their apps.

The ordinance was approved and took effect in January. It has become a solution waiting for a problem – according to a spokesperson for Milwaukee County, no game maker has bothered to apply for a permit since then.

[...] Nonetheless, in April, Candy Lab, a maker of augmented reality games based in Nevada, filed a lawsuit "out of genuine fear and apprehension that this ordinance, conceptually and as written, poses a mortal threat not only to Candy Lab AR's new location-based augmented reality game, but also to its entire business model, and, indeed, to the emerging medium of augmented reality as a whole."

-- submitted from IRC


Original Submission

This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
(1)
  • (Score: 2) by SanityCheck on Friday July 21 2017, @09:54PM (9 children)

    by SanityCheck (5190) on Friday July 21 2017, @09:54PM (#542593)

    Politicians are truly a disgusting breed of Human. They are easily responsible for 90% of our misery.

    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday July 21 2017, @10:25PM (8 children)

      by bob_super (1357) on Friday July 21 2017, @10:25PM (#542602)

      Technically, by holding the People's power by delegation, they are actually responsible for 100% of the literal misery.

      Metaphorical misery has very diverse stakeholders.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:30PM (7 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:30PM (#542607)

        Politicians aren't responsible for the misery we inflict upon each other directly, like when your neighbor robs your house. But when an H1B takes your job, that's a policy issue and you can thank politicians for your misery.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by bob_super on Friday July 21 2017, @10:52PM (6 children)

          by bob_super (1357) on Friday July 21 2017, @10:52PM (#542613)

          Why did the neighbor rob your house, rather than acquire the desired object(s) with her own resources?
          Who's gonna catch and properly punish the neighbor for robbing your house?

          100%, if you look at it right. Any crime is the result of failing to lead a society where each citizen is gainfully occupied, appropriately compensated, and safely entertained.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @11:00PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @11:00PM (#542619)

            Switchboard Operator, Agatha Pirkowski, expects her job to return “any day” now that Donald Trump has been elected. Pirkowski, who lost her job in 1963, supported Trump during the election because of the candidates promise to make America great again.

            https://www.americangauntlet.com/single-post/2017/01/05/SwitchboardOperator [americangauntlet.com]

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 21 2017, @11:19PM (2 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 21 2017, @11:19PM (#542625) Journal

            100%, if you look at it right.

            "Looking at it right" is really terrible criteria. Anything can be "looked at right". Anything. It's all the fault of the Moon Nazis and their monopoly on green cheese, 100% totally, if you look at it right.

            • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Friday July 21 2017, @11:30PM (1 child)

              by bob_super (1357) on Friday July 21 2017, @11:30PM (#542629)

              Pardon me for trying to set a high expectations bar for our democratic representatives
              (grin, as he says)

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 21 2017, @11:44PM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 21 2017, @11:44PM (#542638) Journal
                You got me there. Until my side tweets the follow on talking points, of course.
          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Saturday July 22 2017, @03:39AM (1 child)

            by JoeMerchant (3937) on Saturday July 22 2017, @03:39AM (#542720)

            If you look at it perversely enough, any crime is the result of failing to lead a society where each citizen is gainfully occupied, appropriately compensated, and safely entertained is indeed "the fault" of politicians failing to live up to rainbows and unicorns fantasies.

            Looking at it another way, without politicians - let's just call that anarchy, crime is a simple fact of life - something that exists because nobody is standing up to do anything about it.

            Sure, politicians are miserable inept self-serving douche bags, but they're better than no organized government at all.

            --
            🌻🌻 [google.com]
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @04:02AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @04:02AM (#542725)

              No, some people are just evil. That is, some get off on the misery of others, yet others get some mind of power trip from stealing from others, yet others do it for the thrill of not getting caught.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:14PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:14PM (#542599)

    Pokemom Bro won't stop poking my mom.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:59PM (#542618)

      Was he trollomon? Cause his offspring is... weird.

  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by urza9814 on Friday July 21 2017, @10:30PM

    by urza9814 (3954) on Friday July 21 2017, @10:30PM (#542605) Journal

    Well yeah, that seems pretty obvious.

    If a company is setting up an actual physical presence, they need a permit. If they're just suggesting people make use of their local parks and recreation facilities, why would that need a permit? I can walk into a local bike shop and they'll be selling all kinds of maps and books about all the local parks and bike trails, clearly making sales and profiting by telling people to go to these places, but THEY don't need a permit. But you do the same thing "on a computer" and suddenly it's illegal? That's just absurd.

    The only way I'd accept that they *might* need a permit is if they're establishing a specific event (ie, a limited time and place and seeking a large gathering). But encouraging individual citizens to go out and use the facilities that exist specifically for that purpose sounds like something the parks and rec department should already be doing. What, are they upset that AR companies are making them look bad because they did it better without even trying?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 21 2017, @10:32PM (#542608)

    I missed the previous article regarding this and had to read up to see how much the commenters actually agreed with the plan. There wasn't much consensus though.

    I think they should stick to enforcing park rules and leave it at that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @01:57AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @01:57AM (#542688)

    Gf grew up there, nice place to visit her parents. But...when she was in grade school the other kids would rub her hair (a curly jew fro) to check if there were horns on her head. I kid you not, the preachers taught the Lutherans how to hate, including that little gem that anyone who was "not our blond white people" had horns!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @05:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 22 2017, @05:50PM (#542990)

      Laestadians?

  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday July 22 2017, @03:59AM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday July 22 2017, @03:59AM (#542723) Journal

    First off it's a preliminary injunction pending a trial. So, nothing has actually been decided yet:

    US District Judge J.P. Stadtmueller issued a preliminary injunction Thursday blocking Milwaukee County from enforcing the law until the outcome of a trial tentatively set for April. "Greater injury will be inflicted upon plaintiff by the denial of injunctive relief than will be inflicted upon defendants by the granting of such relief," the judge ruled. (PDF)

    Second off, maybe you could have used your words to describe information such as that instead trying to tell us what we think about it.

(1)