https://www.hpcwire.com/2017/07/26/india-plots-three-phase-indigenous-supercomputing-strategy/
Additional details on India's plans to stand up an indigenous supercomputer came to light earlier this week. As reported in the Indian press, the Rs 4,500-crore (~$675 million) supercomputing project, approved by the Indian government in March 2015, is preparing to install six machines, ranging from a half-petaflops to 2 petaflops in size, by year end. Three of these will be completely foreign-built and three will begin incorporating Indian design elements and assembly in preparation for a fully made-in-India supercomputer.
Under the leadership of prime minister Narendra Modi and within the auspices of the "Make in India" initiative, at least fifty new supercomputers will be built over three phases of a seven-year program. This is all part of India's National Supercomputing Mission (NSM) to create a grid of supercomputers connecting academic and research institutions across the country. Rajat Moona, director-general of the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC), has said that at least 50 percent of the supercomputers will be Indian-made.
Related: Reality check: India's 2017 'fastest supercomputer' plan a pipedream (2012)
India Planning to Deploy 10-Petaflop Supercomputer
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:07AM (4 children)
Will this teach them the miracles of indoor plumbing and toilet paper?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @09:12AM
Wish list:
* Sit down toilet (no squatting)
* Hot and cold water plumbing
* Reliable power and telecommunication
* Pawed streets
* Bury cables
* Keeping a calm and moderated voice
* Hygiene
* Air conditioning
Vote Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) ? [quora.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @12:15PM
Or how to bathe and use deodorant. While they're at it: not drench themselves and their hair with nasty smelling oils that try to hide the stench of poor hygiene which only compounds their already overwhelming BO.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday July 27 2017, @06:31PM (1 child)
"Will this teach them the miracles of indoor plumbing and toilet paper?" - Referring to Japan around 1950, of course [oxfordscholarship.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @07:37PM
The lesson to learn from Japan is that it's best to burn the whole place down and start from scratch. That's what India/Pakistan/Bangladesh really need.
(Score: 2, Funny) by MostCynical on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:15AM (16 children)
will program the supercomputer? Do the Indians have some competent programmers they keep back, somehow hide, and don't use for off-shored or cheap-on-a-visa contracts?
Seems unlikely.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:25AM (9 children)
India's population [google.com] is about 1.324 billion and projected to increase past China's.
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(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @01:44AM
I think I see where you're going with this. The transistor count [anandtech.com] of a Haswell ULT GT3 2C processor is 1.3 billion. So if each Indian mimes the operation of one transistor, they can simulate a recent Intel CPU in performance art.
(Score: 1) by Hyper on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:10AM
They are fixing their population problem by moving their people to Australia.
Australia's population is now 2% Indian. The projection is 5% in 10 years time.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday July 27 2017, @10:02AM (6 children)
They better implement the one-child policy or they will have trouble. China already learnt this.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday July 27 2017, @10:19AM (3 children)
Population is power. Being the most populous nation in the world has its advantages.
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday July 27 2017, @10:35AM (2 children)
Like with Africa?
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday July 27 2017, @10:48AM (1 child)
Africa ain't a nation/country. But it does have a lot of natural resources and China in particular is moving to help them exploit that wealth. It is expected to add over a billion to the world's population by 2050, and if these people are slightly richer, better educated, packing more smartphones, with better overall health, and getting a cut of resource wealth (as opposed to during colonialism), then yes, Africa will become more powerful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_growth [wikipedia.org]
'Huge' water resource exists under Africa [bbc.com]
Kenya finds '70 year supply' of water in desert region [telegraph.co.uk]
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday July 27 2017, @12:23PM
Nations in Africa share many of the same traits. China is definitely moving in to exploit, perhaps not so much else. Adding a billion more people to Africa ain't going to be pretty. If they get rich which they will only be if permitted and history tells otherwise. Better educated seems to be hopes. Smartphones, health etc is all costs that got to be had from some income, re what has been said previously.
The water aquafier under Africa won't last for many people during a long time. It's a really finite resource.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:43PM (1 child)
Didn't work in China.
Too many female babies are already aborted or killed in india.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 29 2017, @07:10AM
It may have worked in China. Due to the one-child policy and/or other reasons, fertility declined there.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Arik on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:10AM (5 children)
Yes, I can confirm, they definitely do.
When you off-shore to save money, you don't wind up getting their best. Are you really naïve enough to be surprised by that?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:34AM (3 children)
When an Amercian-based, Indian software company puts lousy coders on a project for a large Australian bank, there must be fine line between "saving money" and "getting such a sh!t reputation you won't get used again, or be recommended to others"
I imagine they could (must?) have many, many accountants running models to find the sweet spot, but the damage to the company's reputation mspust be worth something, surely?
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:39AM
Not necessarily. If the company is unknown, or has a poor reputation already, there may not be anything worth protecting.
Many businesses run on that model, bringing in the income by hook or crook and simply disappearing when things start to catch up. They can often be back in business with a new name before end of the day.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:43AM
Didn't you get that memo?
Make a Bonfire of Your Reputations [warplife.com]
From the blog of Michael David Crawford, whose reputation is the finest in the universe.
(Score: 2) by driverless on Friday July 28 2017, @08:21AM
Is that even possible? How badly would a software company have to screw up that they actually go under? Look at any multimillion-dollar IT screwup, they're all still operating. In some cases they even got paid more money to fix up the mess they made. Or at least to continue the disaster.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Thursday July 27 2017, @12:24PM
They get what they deserve: shit code. They are so blinded by greed that they don't care they are getting fucked right back with garbage code.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:31AM
Milk Inside
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @02:50AM (3 children)
The West refused to sell supercomputers to India, so they built their own, and this was decade ago.
Still, computers are made with semiconductors, and semiconductors are all about economies of scale, and it took America and later East Asia decades to build up the industrial infrastructure. India today still does not have a semiconductor industry.
So, "made in India" means "assembled in India" with components bought from abroad.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 27 2017, @03:34AM
Here in America, l33t d00dz build a "rig" from parts Made In China. What's your fucking point?
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Thursday July 27 2017, @09:16AM
Can India buy high performance chips from China?
(Score: 2) by driverless on Friday July 28 2017, @08:25AM
By experienced Indian contractors. Here's a photo of what it'll look like [cepro.com].